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If Biden doesn’t run at WH2024 Buttigieg should be as strong a nomination contender as Harris – poli

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  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,815
    Omnium said:

    For those interested, how BBC1 broke the news:

    https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1380479577823268869?s=21

    She did well I think. I think he was held in higher regard than he might have imagined.
    Yes he certainly was . The D of E scheme is a great legacy as well . I don't know how much how input he had in setting the exact requirements but to split it into needing to demonstrate and work at : a skill: a physical activity : volunteering and an expedition (residential as well for gold) meant that it was general enough for anybody of any background and ability to achieve without it being easy for those with natural ability or intelligence or parental wealth to achieve. If you have got the D of E you earned it.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,598
    There's a lot of yellow starting to appear on the UK Covid map: Yay!!

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    Never been to Greece for some reason. Can't wait to go sometime in the next couple of years.
    Me neither sadly. Watching The Guns of Navarone the other day made me want to. :lol:
    An early entry for the worst reason for visiting Greece ever?
    Why? Why not be inspired by the scenery in it, even if you Quayle at it?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,599
    Omnium said:

    For those interested, how BBC1 broke the news:

    https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1380479577823268869?s=21

    She did well I think. I think he was held in higher regard than he might have imagined.
    There’s only so much training you can do for something like that. It’s an otherwise normal day at work, no-ones expecting anything, then at midday the wire comes in and you’re live in 5, 4, 3....
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,165
    edited April 2021
    IanB2 said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    Never been to Greece for some reason. Can't wait to go sometime in the next couple of years.
    A Greek island - many of which are pigs to get to, involving a full day’s travel - is IME unique for relaxing you the instant you arrive. You leave home at some ungodly hour for an early morning flight to Rhodes or Kos, snatch a quick lunch while you are hanging about for a coach transfer, spend several hours on a slow ferry, lug your luggage up some impossibly steep hill, arriving late in the afternoon. Yet that evening, sitting by the sea eating grilled fish washed down with Retsina at some cheerful waterside taverna, it is as if you have been there a week already.
    Yes. Ideally it should be a long way from Athens, and difficult to get to. Certain remoter parts of the southern and north-western mainland are similar. Instant transcendence.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,210
    Nigelb said:

    On topic, Buttigieg has been handed infrastructure, and at least part credit for $2T of stuff which might improve the average voter's day to day existence.
    (And gets to appear on TV making Fox presenters look ridiculous when they try to attack the plan.)

    Harris, immigration.

    While Biden himself, of course, will hang on to the pandemic response thing for himself (and which TBF was part of his brief when VP).
    https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1380554552932438017

    The point about Buttigieg's responsibilities is that he's going to be out front, with daily media coverage, arguing for the infrastructure bill, and he's really, really good at that.
    If the infrastructure bill gets through then his name will be strongly associated with it.

    If Harris can do something positive with the thorny problem of immigration, then she probably deserves the nomination if Biden doesn't run again. That's very far from a given, though.
    And I think Buttigieg's odds are better than the market currently suggests.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930
    Sandpit said:

    Omnium said:

    For those interested, how BBC1 broke the news:

    https://twitter.com/scottygb/status/1380479577823268869?s=21

    She did well I think. I think he was held in higher regard than he might have imagined.
    There’s only so much training you can do for something like that. It’s an otherwise normal day at work, no-ones expecting anything, then at midday the wire comes in and you’re live in 5, 4, 3....
    At least the news wasn’t leaked on Twitter before the announcement.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,428

    From Twitter:

    At Australian customs the Duke was told he'd be asked the same questions as anyone else. Asked if he had a criminal record, he replied, "I had no idea it was still a requirement."

    Not sure about this - story usually/also attributed to Ian Botham, and do the Royals actually go through customs?
  • prh47bridgeprh47bridge Posts: 452
    ydoethur said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I love Pete, and think Harris is a weak candidate.

    But I just don't see it. Sitting VPs get such an enormous head-start.

    Has there ever been a case where a sitting VP who put themselves forward where the President was unavailable was not selected?

    1968 they even fiddled the election to let Humphrey take the nomination.
    Yes. Most recently Alben W Barkley was Truman's VP in 1952 but failed to gain the Democratic nomination when trade union leaders refused to endorse him due to his age.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    edited April 2021
    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    Weird to see CNN giving itself over to live feed from ITN
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,815

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    I think it was good old fashioned banter!
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,165
    edited April 2021

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    Interestingly his son feels more Greek - and Orthodox - than him. Apparently his family spoke a mixture of English, German and Greek, but as I understand it English was his mother tongue, followed by a few bits and bobs of German and Greek from his childhood.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 38,865

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    The Greeks like to claim him, I have a few Greek friends who say he's a Greek.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    edited April 2021

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    I think his first, rather than native, language was English because that was his parents’ common language (and the one they spoke in France).
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Radio 2 played Nimrod earlier after their news bulletin.

    I must admit, I turned the car radio up and it brought a tear to my eye.

    Takes a while to sink in.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,210
    For the same people who run the Tories' mail merge program ?

    The University of Kentucky accidentally sent 500,000 acceptances to a program that usually only accepts 35 students
    https://news.yahoo.com/university-kentucky-accidentally-sent-500-013950963.html
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,764
    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,598

    A thread on Prince Philip and how he got into conservationism via twitching.

    https://twitter.com/antonhowes/status/1272864771604447240?s=21

    So that's Prince Philip, Ken Clarke, Bill Oddie and me saving the planet....
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,586
    "A very human prince
    Prince Philip refused to obey the rules of modern moral etiquette.
    Frank Furedi"

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/04/09/a-very-human-prince/
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    That tallies up with my recent experience. My GP rang me up to offer me my first jab earlier in the week, but I'm not getting it until the 24th.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Might take my wife and daughter to Windsor tomorrow, even if it rains.

    Historical event, and if I can do anything to help The Queen by showing her people care - I will.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,428

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    So presumably the mass vaccination sites may still be doing first doses. I'd add that if we keep up the second doses, i don't mind too much either. Obviously frustrating for those who haven't been jabbed yet.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,598

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,598
    Cyclefree said:

    Anyway - an update on my second dose. Apparently despite being registered with my new GP I was still on the Accubook system at my old GP. So I've taken myself off that and that should allow my new GP to book a second Pfizer dose somewhere in Barrow.

    Alas the nurse practitioner was not in today so I won't know until Monday.

    Meanwhile Son was given the day off today because of the news. He said it was quite weird walking round a largely empty London with all these photos of Philip in uniform and medals.

    There is a short story in his experiences so far - something Russian - perhaps like in Gogol - of a man's pointless wandering around a deserted locked down city while solemn music is played.

    Or maybe Alan Bennett-ish: commenting on urban mundanities and how common or otherwise people's front doors are.

    I think Alan Bennett would muse on how garden gnomes have been replaced by meerkats in people's front gardens.....
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,815
    Loved that Giles B said on the radio today that Prince Phillip was aware he would be remembered for his gaffes but justified them on the basis that he met thousands of people for the first time each year and always tried to put them at ease with some casual banter or questions to them and occasionally it meant a gaffe .I think it showed that he was pragmatic but also personable enough to realise he would make the odd gaffe but it was more important to be friendly to people rather than play safe always
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870
    Leon said:

    HYUFD said:

    Can anyone explain the eight days mourning? Is this to be expected? Don't remember that for the Queen Mother.

    The Queen Mother had 10 days of national mourning

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/mar/31/queenmother.politics
    So we're getting FEWER mourning?

    *bewildered face*
    Hey! You changed your avatar (again!).
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,355

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    The constriction around this time period was reported previously. That was the baseline version I think. The optimistic version would have had larger deliveries allowing for more 1st vaccinations.

    The required average of second jabs is something like 400K per day this month. I reckon that if we have an average of 50-100K first (on top of that) that will be good going.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Andy_JS said:

    Some websites have become black and white affairs. For example, national rail.

    https://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/planjourney/search

    That's a bit OTT.

    We're getting into right-wing Wokeness here - it's enough to simply put out a statement.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    The Slovakian Sputnik vaccine story just gets weirder:

    https://twitter.com/AntonSpisak/status/1380578129937371136
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,815

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298

    Andy_JS said:

    Some websites have become black and white affairs. For example, national rail.

    https://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/planjourney/search

    That's a bit OTT.

    We're getting into right-wing Wokeness here - it's enough to simply put out a statement.
    I am disappointed Mike hasn’t put a simple black border around PB.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487

    I reckon Philip was a Remainer.

    (Ducks).

    Very possible.

    A slightly more diplomatic @Nigel_Foremain I could easily see.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,870
    edited April 2021

    Radio 2 played Nimrod earlier after their news bulletin.

    I must admit, I turned the car radio up and it brought a tear to my eye.

    Takes a while to sink in.

    Nimrod's failure as a airborne early warning aircraft does bring tears to one's eyes, yes :(
  • Fysics_TeacherFysics_Teacher Posts: 6,285

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    I can't remember the exact quotation which rebuts this, but it is something like:

    "What do they know of England who only England know?"
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421

    Andy_JS said:

    Some websites have become black and white affairs. For example, national rail.

    https://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/planjourney/search

    That's a bit OTT.

    We're getting into right-wing Wokeness here - it's enough to simply put out a statement.
    I am disappointed Mike hasn’t put a simple black border around PB.
    Leon and I have changed our avatars to images of Prince Philip, isn’t that enough?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930
    Tres said:
    They probably got tired of people spamming them with complaints on the topic. This way all the complaints can be easily filed away.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    ydoethur said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Some websites have become black and white affairs. For example, national rail.

    https://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/planjourney/search

    That's a bit OTT.

    We're getting into right-wing Wokeness here - it's enough to simply put out a statement.
    I am disappointed Mike hasn’t put a simple black border around PB.
    Leon and I have changed our avatars to images of Prince Philip, isn’t that enough?
    No.

    Yours is too small to be recognisable anyway.

    I feel this site needs to maintain decorum.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,599
    Tres said:
    They’re not about to rip up their carefully thought out plan for an event they’ve known about for decades, just because a few people complain there’s too much coverage of it.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    edited April 2021
    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    Leon, do you have any Portugal tips? I've only been once, a city break to Lisbon. Loved it but done that and I'm not enthused by the usual Algarve naff over-developed stuff. Any ideas? I'm think Portugal is favourite in Europe to be green lit from 17 May.
    I do have a good Portugal tip. The coast from Lisbon south to glorious Sagres (where it curves round to the Algarve) - known as the Costa Vicentina

    It's a lovely national park, in the main, and there's a brilliant network of paths, bars, hotels, all synched together, called the Rota Vicentina

    See here



    https://www.visitportugal.com/en/content/rota-vicentina


    it's wonderful. Spectacular cliffs, forests, meadows, white villages, a bit of a hippy vibe, Saracen castles, brilliant surfing. A perfect walking holiday. Expect excellent fish. After doing a few days hike you can then chill out on an Algarve beach

  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
    Nah, I wouldn't. I can't stand Britain from New Year's Eve to late March

    It sucks. No getting round it

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,659
    edited April 2021
    @scribblercat: Prince Philip was a stateless refugee. Remember that.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
    Nah, I wouldn't. I can't stand Britain from New Year's Eve to late March

    It sucks. No getting round it

    Wet.

    You'd have put your hands up at Dunkirk.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    EU supply is in a spot of trouble, too, however

    "AstraZeneca cuts this week’s vaccine deliveries to EU by half"

    https://www.ft.com/content/df5020f4-461e-443e-8d55-f3234690d049

    And a glitch in the USA too. It's just patchy
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
    Nah, I wouldn't. I can't stand Britain from New Year's Eve to late March

    It sucks. No getting round it

    Wet.

    You'd have put your hands up at Dunkirk.
    Who the fucking fuck *enjoys* February in the UK? It is miserable, dark and depressing
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421

    @scribblercat: Prince Philip was a stateless refugee. Remember that.

    As was quite common for the royal families of Europe in that time, of course. There was even a book about it called The Republic of Kings.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    edited April 2021
    Leon said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    EU supply is in a spot of trouble, too, however

    "AstraZeneca cuts this week’s vaccine deliveries to EU by half"

    https://www.ft.com/content/df5020f4-461e-443e-8d55-f3234690d049

    And a glitch in the USA too. It's just patchy
    So even though they’ve stolen (word chosen carefully) all those vaccines from the Netherlands that belong to us, and all those ones in Italy that belong to Oz, the EU still don’t have enough?

    Honestly, if they really believed in the rule of law every member of this commission should get five years.
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,019
    Tres said:
    Piped straight into ‘/dev/null’ I suspect.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Sandpit said:

    Tres said:
    They’re not about to rip up their carefully thought out plan for an event they’ve known about for decades, just because a few people complain there’s too much coverage of it.
    Although it is remarkable how things have changed in a quarter of a century, and quite in the reverse direction of received wisdom. Princess Diana got a morning and afternoon on BBC1, I seem to recall, before the Beeb gave into the moaning and reverted to schedule. This time around BBC1 and BBC2 have both been blocked out for the entire day for a simulcast of (almost) identical coverage.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,165
    edited April 2021
    ydoethur said:

    @scribblercat: Prince Philip was a stateless refugee. Remember that.

    As was quite common for the royal families of Europe in that time, of course. There was even a book about it called The Republic of Kings.
    His father seemed to have a bad end, too. Gambling away his money and reputation in the Cote d'Azur, while at least his mother did some good works in Greece.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
    Nah, I wouldn't. I can't stand Britain from New Year's Eve to late March

    It sucks. No getting round it

    Wet.

    You'd have put your hands up at Dunkirk.
    Who the fucking fuck *enjoys* February in the UK? It is miserable, dark and depressing
    It was clever to make it the shortest month, though, wasn’t it? If we have to have bad weather, it’s best to get through it quickly.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,206
    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    I love Pete, and think Harris is a weak candidate.

    But I just don't see it. Sitting VPs get such an enormous head-start.

    And so ruin the chance of the first female President to boot? Forgivable when running in an open field, but when the incumbent VP runs?

    He'll wait his turn.

    He and Ossoff will duke it out in about 30 years.
    Ooohhhh... that would be a fun match-up: two of the smartest young cookies in the Democratic jar.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,692
    "@MELANIATRUMP
    President Trump and I extend our deepest condolences to Her Majesty the Queen, the Royal Family, and the people of Great Britain as the world mourns the loss of Prince Philip."

    https://twitter.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/1380577981110882306
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    EU supply is in a spot of trouble, too, however

    "AstraZeneca cuts this week’s vaccine deliveries to EU by half"

    https://www.ft.com/content/df5020f4-461e-443e-8d55-f3234690d049

    And a glitch in the USA too. It's just patchy
    So even though they’ve stolen (word chosen carefully) all those vaccines from the Netherlands that belong to us, and all those ones in Italy that belong to Oz, the EU still don’t have enough?

    Honestly, if they really believed in the rule of law every member of this commission should get five years.
    Yes, there must be a reckoning at the end of this. Not yet, not while we're still in this shit, but when we are clear, the truth must come out. UK/EU relations may enter the deep freeze for a decade, if they aren't already heading there
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,001
    IanB2 said:

    Weird to see CNN giving itself over to live feed from ITN

    Team call with my US colleagues this afternoon they spent the first 20 minutes asking about it
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
    Nah, I wouldn't. I can't stand Britain from New Year's Eve to late March

    It sucks. No getting round it

    Wet.

    You'd have put your hands up at Dunkirk.
    Who the fucking fuck *enjoys* February in the UK? It is miserable, dark and depressing
    You'd have loved it up here today.
    Four heavy snow showers and one hailstorm.
    Still. At least it is light and you can see it falling.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421
    Leon said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    EU supply is in a spot of trouble, too, however

    "AstraZeneca cuts this week’s vaccine deliveries to EU by half"

    https://www.ft.com/content/df5020f4-461e-443e-8d55-f3234690d049

    And a glitch in the USA too. It's just patchy
    So even though they’ve stolen (word chosen carefully) all those vaccines from the Netherlands that belong to us, and all those ones in Italy that belong to Oz, the EU still don’t have enough?

    Honestly, if they really believed in the rule of law every member of this commission should get five years.
    Yes, there must be a reckoning at the end of this. Not yet, not while we're still in this shit, but when we are clear, the truth must come out. UK/EU relations may enter the deep freeze for a decade, if they aren't already heading there
    I hate to think what relations between Australia and the EU are going to be like. Morrison has practically threatened retaliatory sanctions already.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298
    Scott_xP said:

    IanB2 said:

    Weird to see CNN giving itself over to live feed from ITN

    Team call with my US colleagues this afternoon they spent the first 20 minutes asking about it
    Thankfully my US colleagues did not show up on a call today, and my Irish colleagues were too polite to mention it.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    I thought he was multilingual. English, French and German. Reminds me of many Lebanese I know, who switch effortlessly between English, Arabic and French, frequently in the same sentence, e.g. "Hi, bonjour alaakum"
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    ydoethur said:

    @scribblercat: Prince Philip was a stateless refugee. Remember that.

    As was quite common for the royal families of Europe in that time, of course. There was even a book about it called The Republic of Kings.
    His father seemed to have a bad end, too. Gambling away his money and reputation in the Cote D'Azur, while at least his mother did some good works in Greece.
    "Gambling away his money and reputation in the Cote D'Azur"

    As endings go, it doesn't sound THAT bad, TBH


    "He spent the last years of his life in a bedsit in Worksop" - that's a bad end, or "his final decades in Pittsburgh were marred by total impotence" etc
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,165
    edited April 2021
    TimT said:

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    I thought he was multilingual. English, French and German. Reminds me of many Lebanese I know, who switch effortlessly between English, Arabic and French, frequently in the same sentence, e.g. "Hi, bonjour alaakum"
    He knew a few words of Greek and German, and probably some French too from his time near Paris, but I doubt he was close to fluent in any of those.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 21,298

    TimT said:

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    I thought he was multilingual. English, French and German. Reminds me of many Lebanese I know, who switch effortlessly between English, Arabic and French, frequently in the same sentence, e.g. "Hi, bonjour alaakum"
    He knew a few words of Greek and German, and probably French too from his time near Paris. I doubt any of them were close to his mother tongue, though.
    According to Wikipedia he spoke English, French and German.

    I think @ydoethur noted upthread that his parents used English as a common language, so that’s probably Philip’s “first” language.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
    Nah, I wouldn't. I can't stand Britain from New Year's Eve to late March

    It sucks. No getting round it

    Wet.

    You'd have put your hands up at Dunkirk.
    Who the fucking fuck *enjoys* February in the UK? It is miserable, dark and depressing
    You'd have loved it up here today.
    Four heavy snow showers and one hailstorm.
    Still. At least it is light and you can see it falling.
    Don't worry, it's pretty grim down here, too. Theoretically it is 11C but a cutting wind - yet again - makes it feel like 7 or 8C. ie Wintry. Again

    I can't work out whether this is a normal British spring, and my perceptions are marred by last year's amazing spring, plus lockdown, or is this actually an unusually grey cold spring, so far?

    We did have those two days of record breaking temps in late March, but other than that....
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468

    TimT said:

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    I thought he was multilingual. English, French and German. Reminds me of many Lebanese I know, who switch effortlessly between English, Arabic and French, frequently in the same sentence, e.g. "Hi, bonjour alaakum"
    He knew a few words of Greek and German, and probably French too from his time near Paris. I doubt any of them were close to his mother tongue, though.
    According to Wikipedia he spoke English, French and German.

    I think @ydoethur noted upthread that his parents used English as a common language, so that’s probably Philip’s “first” language.
    I've met a number of people who simply don't have a 'first' language - they are genuinely multilingual.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676
    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,206

    Got this as well.

    I thought that was Priti for a second, which really confused me...
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,350
    IanB2 said:

    FPT

    kinabalu said:

    Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.

    No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.

    Oh yes. And Chilean is the way to go in my (stupendously uninformed) opinion.
    French, actually. Crate of Beaujolais from The Wine Society. Easy drinking. I rarely go outside France for my wine - bit of a traditionalist.

    Edit: not that I intend to drink the whole crate tonight.
    Beaujolais isn’t the best choice, really you want Bordeaux, since Cabernet and Merlot both contain the highest levels of procyanidins, which improve blood flow and reduce risk of inflammation and blood clots.

    (noting that official advice is not to drink alcohol at all for several days after)
    Portugal and Australia for me
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410
    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
    Nah, I wouldn't. I can't stand Britain from New Year's Eve to late March

    It sucks. No getting round it

    Wet.

    You'd have put your hands up at Dunkirk.
    Who the fucking fuck *enjoys* February in the UK? It is miserable, dark and depressing
    You'd have loved it up here today.
    Four heavy snow showers and one hailstorm.
    Still. At least it is light and you can see it falling.
    Don't worry, it's pretty grim down here, too. Theoretically it is 11C but a cutting wind - yet again - makes it feel like 7 or 8C. ie Wintry. Again

    I can't work out whether this is a normal British spring, and my perceptions are marred by last year's amazing spring, plus lockdown, or is this actually an unusually grey cold spring, so far?

    We did have those two days of record breaking temps in late March, but other than that....
    Think it's just been a long, cold winter. The worst since the back-to-back ones in 10 and 11.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,082
    edited April 2021
    Leon said:

    Stocky said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    Leon, do you have any Portugal tips? I've only been once, a city break to Lisbon. Loved it but done that and I'm not enthused by the usual Algarve naff over-developed stuff. Any ideas? I'm think Portugal is favourite in Europe to be green lit from 17 May.
    I do have a good Portugal tip. The coast from Lisbon south to glorious Sagres (where it curves round to the Algarve) - known as the Costa Vicentina

    It's a lovely national park, in the main, and there's a brilliant network of paths, bars, hotels, all synched together, called the Rota Vicentina

    See here



    https://www.visitportugal.com/en/content/rota-vicentina


    it's wonderful. Spectacular cliffs, forests, meadows, white villages, a bit of a hippy vibe, Saracen castles, brilliant surfing. A perfect walking holiday. Expect excellent fish. After doing a few days hike you can then chill out on an Algarve beach

    The Atlantic coast of Portugal is so much better than the Algarve. Silver coast between Porto.and Lisbon has incredible beaches.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    It's like people complaining about too much football. It'll go straight in the bin.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    RobD said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    It's like people complaining about too much football. It'll go straight in the bin.
    On the one hand, anyone complaining about practically the same thing being on both main channels at the same time for the whole day might just have a point.

    On the other hand, it's not like there isn't plenty of other choice on TV nowadays, even for those with nothing but Freeview.

    And yes, I'm quite sure all the bleats will go straight to bin.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421

    RobD said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    It's like people complaining about too much football. It'll go straight in the bin.
    On the one hand, anyone complaining about practically the same thing being on both main channels at the same time for the whole day might just have a point.

    On the other hand, it's not like there isn't plenty of other choice on TV nowadays, even for those with nothing but Freeview.

    And yes, I'm quite sure all the bleats will go straight to bin.
    I’ve had the livestream on from Neville Road all day.

    And I’m seriously disappointed that Glos only got 311-8 having been 139-0 after 28 overs. Real wasted opportunity, even if Surrey did bowl much better in the afternoon.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    I hope someone brings that topic about 'Jeff Bezos's Oracle killer' into this thread, because I wanted to say 'Oh, is it a bit temple-imental?' Like the temple where you go and see the Oracle.

    If you ever get the chance to go to Delphi, do. It is an amazing place: the local town is full of tourist tat, but that doesn't matter because you would have found the equivalent there two and a half millennia ago. The actual site is incredibly well preserved with a huge amount to see and perched on the side of a mountain with a fabulous view out over the sea (I think the Gulf of Corinth).
    Absolutely fully agreed. It's one of the most amazing vistas and locations in Europe, if not the world.

    Best visited slightly out of season, early in the morning or at dusk, too, I would say.
    The ban on travel has given me an incredible yearning for Greece. Not anywhere else. I'd love to go to Thailand or Portugal or America or Greenland or bloody Belgium, but it is Greece that haunts me. Perhaps because it is the last foreign country I visited - last September - but also....Greece.

    The simplicity. Grilled fish, white wine, blue sea, Greek salad, burning sun
    I'm always struck by patriots who can't wait to get away from these shores.

    Yes, there are some wonderful places elsewhere in the world - but Jerusalem was builded here and I'm perfectly happy in the UK at all times of year.

    The weather doesn't bother me.
    Actually i think Leon would agree with you as well - Leon just loves the world in general which is a great thing!
    Nah, I wouldn't. I can't stand Britain from New Year's Eve to late March

    It sucks. No getting round it

    Wet.

    You'd have put your hands up at Dunkirk.
    Who the fucking fuck *enjoys* February in the UK? It is miserable, dark and depressing
    You watch the Six Nations, enoy the frost and take it like a man.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,428

    RobD said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    It's like people complaining about too much football. It'll go straight in the bin.
    On the one hand, anyone complaining about practically the same thing being on both main channels at the same time for the whole day might just have a point.

    On the other hand, it's not like there isn't plenty of other choice on TV nowadays, even for those with nothing but Freeview.

    And yes, I'm quite sure all the bleats will go straight to bin.
    Count me in the former camp. However there are plenty of other options. Currently watching Blake’s 7. Have oodles of programmes on the sky box planner. Lots of books to read. Could walk the dog. But yes, why have two channels showing the same thing?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Tres said:

    Leon said:

    It's way too soon for a thread about anything other than the late Duke. This is tasteless

    All threads for the next 8 days should focus on his life and achievements, and the steadfast service he gave to the nation. For diversity, we could have some that focus on his more lovable gaffes about "slitty eyes", so the lefties and BAMEs don't get too upset by the endless solemnity

    At least one thread a day must be simply a photo of him - in uniform, on a horse, staring down a cleavage, etc


    Come on PB, this is obvious

    Isn't Edward the new Duke now?
    No, Charles
    This is your occasional reminder that primogeniture sucks
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,082
    AZN site in UK is clearly nowhere near capable of producing the 4m doses a week they said was possible way back at the start of the year.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    RobD said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    It's like people complaining about too much football. It'll go straight in the bin.
    Having wall to wall coverage on BBC1 is fair enough, for those that want it. But replicating the same coverage on other channels (BBC2) or suspending programming altogether (BBC4) is just absurd. It’s all pre-recorded stuff anyway; it is not as if they have to force their presenters to go on live despite their grief.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    Leon said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    GP-led sites will not receive any new first-dose Covid vaccine deliveries at all over the next two weeks, NHS England has said.

    Pulse magazine.

    UK vaccine supply really has crashed.

    I wonder if we will discover there has been "stuff" going on in the background? Not until we are swimming with it in a couple of months though.

    EU supply is in a spot of trouble, too, however

    "AstraZeneca cuts this week’s vaccine deliveries to EU by half"

    https://www.ft.com/content/df5020f4-461e-443e-8d55-f3234690d049

    And a glitch in the USA too. It's just patchy
    So even though they’ve stolen (word chosen carefully) all those vaccines from the Netherlands that belong to us, and all those ones in Italy that belong to Oz, the EU still don’t have enough?

    Honestly, if they really believed in the rule of law every member of this commission should get five years.
    Yes, there must be a reckoning at the end of this. Not yet, not while we're still in this shit, but when we are clear, the truth must come out. UK/EU relations may enter the deep freeze for a decade, if they aren't already heading there
    Yes, and it's clear this isn't the first time they've behaved like this either.

    They've shamefully used NI as a weapon over Brexit and, secretly, couldn't give a shit about the peace process.

    Shame on them.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,702
    IanB2 said:

    RobD said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    It's like people complaining about too much football. It'll go straight in the bin.
    Having wall to wall coverage on BBC1 is fair enough, for those that want it. But replicating the same coverage on other channels (BBC2) or suspending programming altogether (BBC4) is just absurd. It’s all pre-recorded stuff anyway; it is not as if they have to force their presenters to go on live despite their grief.
    Yeah, I'd complain if after Caroline Aherne had died they started simulcasting repeats of The Royle Family on all channels.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    TimT said:

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    I thought he was multilingual. English, French and German. Reminds me of many Lebanese I know, who switch effortlessly between English, Arabic and French, frequently in the same sentence, e.g. "Hi, bonjour alaakum"
    I worked with a Lebanese guy like that - absolutely amazing to watch him switch between languages
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676
    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    America is weird.

    They were very quick (desperate?) to take the side of H&M over Megxit and heavily criticised the Royals from a proudly republican point of view - and this was merely weeks ago - BUT they seem strangely moved by Prince Phillip's death and fixated on it.

    What is it? Some schizophrenia? Strange sense of post colonial Stockholm syndrome? Resentful but also admiring of British institutions? Secretly emotionally attached to and invested in them still but can't bear to admit it?

    America and Americans are an enigma. Discuss.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,001
    If Gardener's World is cancelled there will be riots...
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,082
    edited April 2021
    Floater said:

    TimT said:

    PB will know.

    What was Prince Philip’s native language?

    He was born in Greece.
    His mother spoke English and German (and went on to learn French and Greek).
    His father spoke Greek (but also Danish, German, French, English and Russian).

    He was raised in France until aged 10, but I think had an English governess?

    Philip was baptised in the Greek Orthodox Church, but claimed to feel “Danish”.

    I thought he was multilingual. English, French and German. Reminds me of many Lebanese I know, who switch effortlessly between English, Arabic and French, frequently in the same sentence, e.g. "Hi, bonjour alaakum"
    I worked with a Lebanese guy like that - absolutely amazing to watch him switch between languages
    A couple who are friends of mine both come from different multi-lingual upbringings and they ensured their little one can speak all the languages they can...its quite something to hear a 6 year old pottering around speaking 5 different languages fluently.... little bastard though knows which ones I can't speak so if he wants to be annoying will just switch to those and act like he can't speak the others.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,868
    Basically there is no escape from the cringingly awful Gyles Brandreth for the foreseeable, short of cutting yourself off from all media.

    And this is just the rehearsal.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,082
    Scott_xP said:

    If Gardener's World is cancelled there will be riots...

    I thought it had already been cancelled for being racist.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,676

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,702

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    It's the 21st century. News becomes olds quick in the internet age.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    IanB2 said:

    Basically there is no escape from the cringingly awful Gyles Brandreth for the foreseeable, short of cutting yourself off from all media.

    And this is just the rehearsal.

    I invite you to imagine what it'll be like when HM passes away...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,930

    kle4 said:

    If you go to the BBC complaints website they've put up a special link regarding complaining about there being too much coverage so people only have to register their email address for it.....it implies there gave been a LOT of complaints...

    Well, there are a lot of snowflakes out there. And yes, people who complain about too much coverage within hours of it starting definitely seems snowflakey to me.
    You are entitled to your opinion and you can watch as much coverage as you wish why not watch on BBC1 and BBC2 on two separate sets. BBC4 programming cancelled so the rest of us can watch a black screen

    Fill your sycophantic boots

    Me i am part of the highest number of complaints in history of man about our public broadcaster

    My daughter has just cancelled her licence fee WHAT A SNOWFLAKE!
    He's been dead less than 10 hours.
    No excuse for filling all BBC channels with one programme and suspending all alternative output.

    Is not as if most sycophants can watch all the channels at the same time.
    You can turn it off, you know?
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