Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Oh yes. And Chilean is the way to go in my (stupendously uninformed) opinion.
Almost as if there exist stations outside of the BBC. Funny that.
There is no substitute for Radios 3, 6 and 1X – yet ludicrously all of these have the Phillip stream.
Do Radio 1Xtra dance music fans typically demonstrate a predilection for rolling obituary?
Radio 1Xtra?
It is beyond ridiculous.
You're right it is beyond ridiculous how many radio stations the BBC has. Is there really a need for a state broadcaster of dance music?
Well beyond time all those stations are either privatised or abolished, there's no justification for a tax/licence fee for that.
Oh, was that not your point?
PS there are plenty of alternatives: Spotify, Amazon, Apple, Youtube . . .
Spotify = 70% of the BBC licence fee.
Which is a free choice - on the other hand we have no option but to pay for the beeb
Of course. I am just trying to put things into perspective. I am in favour of a split up module-by-module subscription service for the BBC. I am just pointing out that £14.70/month is not a big number if you chuck in Spotify, Netflix, Amazon, etc.
You think the BBC radio is worth the same as Spotify?
The entire BBC radio combined is worth about 1% of Spotify/YouTube music subscription in my eyes.
On the BBC you get whatever song the DJ on the BBC is currently playing, if they're even playing a song right now. Or you get instant access to your choice of almost every song ever recorded.
What is the commentary and explanatory context of Shostakovich's Piano Concerto No.2 like on Spotify?
If many people are interested in that, someone will have put it on YouTube.
I don't think you quite grasp the joy of radio Phillip.
Tragically, despite the lower nominations threshold no explosion of crazy candidates for the locals, at least round my way. Lots of Greens, but not a single RefUK (though they are standing for PCC), and only 1 UKIP.
Almost as if there exist stations outside of the BBC. Funny that.
There is no substitute for Radios 3, 6 and 1X – yet ludicrously all of these have the Phillip stream.
Do Radio 1Xtra dance music fans typically demonstrate a predilection for rolling obituary?
Radio 1Xtra?
It is beyond ridiculous.
You're right it is beyond ridiculous how many radio stations the BBC has. Is there really a need for a state broadcaster of dance music?
Well beyond time all those stations are either privatised or abolished, there's no justification for a tax/licence fee for that.
Oh, was that not your point?
PS there are plenty of alternatives: Spotify, Amazon, Apple, Youtube . . .
No it wasn't. 1X is great – class house and techno and drum and bass, no ads. Very good quality stream across various mediums.
Radio 3 is utterly brilliant too. No substitute for that. Radio 6, often superb.
BBC Radio is worth the licence fee on its own. I could easily live without the telly bit.
You can get that music on Spotify/YouTube etc too.
If you think its that great then there's no reason you couldn't pay a subscription service for that. The state broadcaster choosing to pay tribute to the death of the consort of the head of state seems reasonable, don't listen to a state broadcaster and choose an alternative if that bothers you.
But that the state broadcaster is involved in dance music shows just how screwed up the BBC is.
I wonder if Russia Today have a dance music station?
I am sure they would if they thought enough dumbass Brits would listen. I am sure Vlad would love to see the end of the BBC, which is yet another reason to keep it.
Amusing but unsurprising to see you jump on the nationalism bandwagon when its convenient for you.
Personally I think we should live how we want to live, not relative to Vlad.
Though considering you think collectivism is the answer all life's ills and that individual choice is an evil to be fought, its unsurprising to see a Marxist like yourself be against people choosing which music providers to pay for instead of having the state choose for us.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Oh yes. And Chilean is the way to go in my (stupendously uninformed) opinion.
French, actually. Crate of Beaujolais from The Wine Society. Easy drinking. I rarely go outside France for my wine - bit of a traditionalist.
Edit: not that I intend to drink the whole crate tonight.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Brill plan. I had my second Pfizer yesterday - no side-effects at all bar a very faint twinge in my arm, but best to have some red wine to be safe...
On the off chance there’s an appetite for knowing how I truly feel about PP passing away, I have to be honest and say I feel very little (other than sorry for the loss to his wife and family). I might get a lump or a twinge when I watch some coverage later, but more likely not. This isn’t because he was old and had ‘had a good innings’, it’s because I feel no emotional connection to Prince Philip. Bob Dylan is quite old but if he’d just died I’d be in bits. Same with quite a few other people who I don’t know but who have meant a lot to me. It’s simply not the case with the Duke and there's no point pretending otherwise. I hope this doesn’t expose me as a chilly, post-modern progressive with a black hole where love of country ought to be, but if it does it does.
I imagine it’ll be different with the Queen because she genuinely represents something monumental, our history since pretty much the War. Having the same monarch is a common thread through all of that. The only one really, when you think about it. Also I do feel an emotional connection with the Queen. There’s all the speeches and footage and stuff over the decades, that’s part of it, but there’s also something closer to home. She’s always been the spitting image of an old Scottish Auntie of mine, and – get this – she was born on the exact same day as that Auntie too. We often used to joke about it. Used to wonder what would happen if my Auntie ever actually met the Queen. Would they recognize the incredible mutual likeness and have a giggle about it? It never happened, needless to say, and neither will it. My Auntie passed away some years ago.
Interestingly there are only 2 candidates standing for the Tees Valley Combined Authority Mayoral election.
If you get odds better than 1.01 for Ben Houchen it's guaranteed money as the other candidate is Jessie Jacobs who even Labour canvassers are refusing to canvass for.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Brill plan. I had my second Pfizer yesterday - no side-effects at all bar a very faint twinge in my arm, but best to have some red wine to be safe...
Excellent idea, I got some monitor glare in my eyes earlier, think I might crack open a bottle too.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Brill plan. I had my second Pfizer yesterday - no side-effects at all bar a very faint twinge in my arm, but best to have some red wine to be safe...
And NON alcoholic wine is even better. All the benefit of red wine without the alcohol.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Brill plan. I had my second Pfizer yesterday - no side-effects at all bar a very faint twinge in my arm, but best to have some red wine to be safe...
And NON alcoholic wine is even better. All the benefit of red wine without the alcohol.
Surely you want alcohol to kill off any unwanted germs..
I don't see why it having a dance music station is philosophically any different from it having a classical music station. I'm an avid listener of both, so I'm glad it has both.
It shouldn't have either. If you want to pay for either then do so of your own free choice.
A friend rather endearingly signed a petition to preserve Radio 3 when he was a child, not because he liked classical music - he didn't - but he anticipated that when he was older he might *come* to like it. I think that some state-provided entertainment channels free to everyone without advertising has its place, and is worth a bit of tax money (rather than the fiddly licence fee arrangement). In the same way, I don't mind a subsidy to opera houses on condition that they arrange for broadcasts of performances, though I've little interest in opera and assume many patrons can pay. Making every little transaction in life subject to the whims of the free market takes a market economy to the point of dogma.
Almost as if there exist stations outside of the BBC. Funny that.
There is no substitute for Radios 3, 6 and 1X – yet ludicrously all of these have the Phillip stream.
Do Radio 1Xtra dance music fans typically demonstrate a predilection for rolling obituary?
Radio 1Xtra?
It is beyond ridiculous.
You're right it is beyond ridiculous how many radio stations the BBC has. Is there really a need for a state broadcaster of dance music?
Well beyond time all those stations are either privatised or abolished, there's no justification for a tax/licence fee for that.
Oh, was that not your point?
PS there are plenty of alternatives: Spotify, Amazon, Apple, Youtube . . .
No it wasn't. 1X is great – class house and techno and drum and bass, no ads. Very good quality stream across various mediums.
Radio 3 is utterly brilliant too. No substitute for that. Radio 6, often superb.
BBC Radio is worth the licence fee on its own. I could easily live without the telly bit.
You can get that music on Spotify/YouTube etc too.
If you think its that great then there's no reason you couldn't pay a subscription service for that. The state broadcaster choosing to pay tribute to the death of the consort of the head of state seems reasonable, don't listen to a state broadcaster and choose an alternative if that bothers you.
But that the state broadcaster is involved in dance music shows just how screwed up the BBC is.
I wonder if Russia Today have a dance music station?
I am sure they would if they thought enough dumbass Brits would listen. I am sure Vlad would love to see the end of the BBC, which is yet another reason to keep it.
Amusing but unsurprising to see you jump on the nationalism bandwagon when its convenient for you.
Personally I think we should live how we want to live, not relative to Vlad.
Though considering you think collectivism is the answer all life's ills and that individual choice is an evil to be fought, its unsurprising to see a Marxist like yourself be against people choosing which music providers to pay for instead of having the state choose for us.
I am a moderate Conservative (though no longer a member) you plonker. I don't believe in "collectivism" -you clearly don't understand big words. I believe in not having change for change sake, and where possible the state staying out of our lives. I think Brexit is dumb, but that does not and never has made me a "Europhile", or collectivist. Your posts reveal yourself to be a right wing reactionary. Anything that does not neatly fit your Daily Express mentality will be painted in philistine black and white terms and condemned. So sad. Try and get some real experience of life Philip. You might start to understand that life is often about compromise, and that there is much beauty to be found in places you didn't expect..
I don't see why it having a dance music station is philosophically any different from it having a classical music station. I'm an avid listener of both, so I'm glad it has both.
It shouldn't have either. If you want to pay for either then do so of your own free choice.
A friend rather endearingly signed a petition to preserve Radio 3 when he was a child, not because he liked classical music - he didn't - but he anticipated that when he was older he might *come* to like it. I think that some state-provided entertainment channels free to everyone without advertising has its place, and is worth a bit of tax money (rather than the fiddly licence fee arrangement). In the same way, I don't mind a subsidy to opera houses on condition that they arrange for broadcasts of performances, though I've little interest in opera and assume many patrons can pay. Making every little transaction in life subject to the whims of the free market takes a market economy to the point of dogma.
If you want to listen to classical music why not just pay for it?
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Sorry to be a party pooper but I thought you weren't supposed to drink a lot after a vaccination.
On the off chance there’s an appetite for knowing how I truly feel about PP passing away, I have to be honest and say I feel very little (other than sorry for the loss to his wife and family). I might get a lump or a twinge when I watch some coverage later, but more likely not. This isn’t because he was old and had ‘had a good innings’, it’s because I feel no emotional connection to Prince Philip. Bob Dylan is quite old but if he’d just died I’d be in bits. Same with quite a few other people who I don’t know but who have meant a lot to me. It’s simply not the case with the Duke and there's no point pretending otherwise. I hope this doesn’t expose me as a chilly, post-modern progressive with a black hole where love of country ought to be, but if it does it does.
I imagine it’ll be different with the Queen because she genuinely represents something monumental, our history since pretty much the War. Having the same monarch is a common thread through all of that. The only one really, when you think about it. Also I do feel an emotional connection with the Queen. There’s all the speeches and footage and stuff over the decades, that’s part of it, but there’s also something closer to home. She’s always been the spitting image of an old Scottish Auntie of mine, and – get this – she was born on the exact same day as that Auntie too. We often used to joke about it. Used to wonder what would happen if my Auntie ever actually met the Queen. Would they recognize the incredible mutual likeness and have a giggle about it? It never happened, needless to say, and neither will it. My Auntie passed away some years ago.
According to Mr Zimmerman now you mention him.
"Met Prince Phillip at the home of the blues Said he'd give me information if his name wasn't used He wanted money up front, said he was abused By dignity"
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Brill plan. I had my second Pfizer yesterday - no side-effects at all bar a very faint twinge in my arm, but best to have some red wine to be safe...
And NON alcoholic wine is even better. All the benefit of red wine without the alcohol.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Oh yes. And Chilean is the way to go in my (stupendously uninformed) opinion.
French, actually. Crate of Beaujolais from The Wine Society. Easy drinking. I rarely go outside France for my wine - bit of a traditionalist.
Edit: not that I intend to drink the whole crate tonight.
Well it sounds just the ticket. Friday night, all vaxxed up, the big reopening on Monday. If this is not one for marking, nothing is. And just for good measure - if you're a fan like me - Masters golf.
Almost as if there exist stations outside of the BBC. Funny that.
There is no substitute for Radios 3, 6 and 1X – yet ludicrously all of these have the Phillip stream.
Do Radio 1Xtra dance music fans typically demonstrate a predilection for rolling obituary?
Radio 1Xtra?
It is beyond ridiculous.
You're right it is beyond ridiculous how many radio stations the BBC has. Is there really a need for a state broadcaster of dance music?
Well beyond time all those stations are either privatised or abolished, there's no justification for a tax/licence fee for that.
Oh, was that not your point?
PS there are plenty of alternatives: Spotify, Amazon, Apple, Youtube . . .
No it wasn't. 1X is great – class house and techno and drum and bass, no ads. Very good quality stream across various mediums.
Radio 3 is utterly brilliant too. No substitute for that. Radio 6, often superb.
BBC Radio is worth the licence fee on its own. I could easily live without the telly bit.
You can get that music on Spotify/YouTube etc too.
If you think its that great then there's no reason you couldn't pay a subscription service for that. The state broadcaster choosing to pay tribute to the death of the consort of the head of state seems reasonable, don't listen to a state broadcaster and choose an alternative if that bothers you.
But that the state broadcaster is involved in dance music shows just how screwed up the BBC is.
I wonder if Russia Today have a dance music station?
I am sure they would if they thought enough dumbass Brits would listen. I am sure Vlad would love to see the end of the BBC, which is yet another reason to keep it.
Amusing but unsurprising to see you jump on the nationalism bandwagon when its convenient for you.
Personally I think we should live how we want to live, not relative to Vlad.
Though considering you think collectivism is the answer all life's ills and that individual choice is an evil to be fought, its unsurprising to see a Marxist like yourself be against people choosing which music providers to pay for instead of having the state choose for us.
I am a moderate Conservative (though no longer a member) you plonker. I don't believe in "collectivism" -you clearly don't understand big words. I believe in not having change for change sake, and where possible the state staying out of our lives. I think Brexit is dumb, but that does not and never has made me a "Europhile", or collectivist. Your posts reveal yourself to be a right wing reactionary. Anything that does not neatly fit your Daily Express mentality will be painted in philistine black and white terms and condemned. So sad. Try and get some real experience of life Philip. You might start to understand that life is often about compromise, and that there is much beauty to be found in places you didn't expect..
You are a collectivist. You can not see any reason that Scotland might want to control its own destiny besides hate of the English. You see no reason why the English might want to control their own destiny than hate of Europeans. You think we are "better together".
Why not just merge with Russia and let Vlad rule a combined union? That'd be bigger too which is better under your unwavering dogma but I'd oppose it 100%.
People are freer when they can make their own choices.
Countries are freer when they can make their own choices.
On the off chance there’s an appetite for knowing how I truly feel about PP passing away, I have to be honest and say I feel very little (other than sorry for the loss to his wife and family). I might get a lump or a twinge when I watch some coverage later, but more likely not. This isn’t because he was old and had ‘had a good innings’, it’s because I feel no emotional connection to Prince Philip. Bob Dylan is quite old but if he’d just died I’d be in bits. Same with quite a few other people who I don’t know but who have meant a lot to me. It’s simply not the case with the Duke and there's no point pretending otherwise. I hope this doesn’t expose me as a chilly, post-modern progressive with a black hole where love of country ought to be, but if it does it does.
I imagine it’ll be different with the Queen because she genuinely represents something monumental, our history since pretty much the War. Having the same monarch is a common thread through all of that. The only one really, when you think about it. Also I do feel an emotional connection with the Queen. There’s all the speeches and footage and stuff over the decades, that’s part of it, but there’s also something closer to home. She’s always been the spitting image of an old Scottish Auntie of mine, and – get this – she was born on the exact same day as that Auntie too. We often used to joke about it. Used to wonder what would happen if my Auntie ever actually met the Queen. Would they recognize the incredible mutual likeness and have a giggle about it? It never happened, needless to say, and neither will it. My Auntie passed away some years ago.
According to Mr Zimmerman now you mention him.
"Met Prince Phillip at the home of the blues Said he'd give me information if his name wasn't used He wanted money up front, said he was abused By dignity"
Almost as if there exist stations outside of the BBC. Funny that.
There is no substitute for Radios 3, 6 and 1X – yet ludicrously all of these have the Phillip stream.
Do Radio 1Xtra dance music fans typically demonstrate a predilection for rolling obituary?
Radio 1Xtra?
It is beyond ridiculous.
You're right it is beyond ridiculous how many radio stations the BBC has. Is there really a need for a state broadcaster of dance music?
Well beyond time all those stations are either privatised or abolished, there's no justification for a tax/licence fee for that.
Oh, was that not your point?
PS there are plenty of alternatives: Spotify, Amazon, Apple, Youtube . . .
No it wasn't. 1X is great – class house and techno and drum and bass, no ads. Very good quality stream across various mediums.
Radio 3 is utterly brilliant too. No substitute for that. Radio 6, often superb.
BBC Radio is worth the licence fee on its own. I could easily live without the telly bit.
You can get that music on Spotify/YouTube etc too.
If you think its that great then there's no reason you couldn't pay a subscription service for that. The state broadcaster choosing to pay tribute to the death of the consort of the head of state seems reasonable, don't listen to a state broadcaster and choose an alternative if that bothers you.
But that the state broadcaster is involved in dance music shows just how screwed up the BBC is.
I wonder if Russia Today have a dance music station?
The great thing about Radio 1 Xtra is it means we don't have to hear any of that shite on Radio 6. ;-)
Actually, Radio 6 has gone way downhill in the last couple of years. It used to be the first thing I put on in the morning when the breakfast show was presented by Shaun Keaveney, or before him, Phil Jupitus. But Lauren Laverne seems intent on turning it into a hen party.
None of this reflects on whether the BBC *should* be doing any of these stations, of course.
Sadly, I must agree. I still love the left-of-the-dial ethos that 6 has, I love that it champions new artists and genres, that it nourishes the UK’s independent music scene. It’s fantastic.
But much of the music that falls into those categories I find myself no longer wanting to actually listen to.
Getting old is terrible.
Still happy to pay the licence fee for that and everything else the beeb does, whether I consume it personally or not.
I don't see why it having a dance music station is philosophically any different from it having a classical music station. I'm an avid listener of both, so I'm glad it has both.
It shouldn't have either. If you want to pay for either then do so of your own free choice.
A friend rather endearingly signed a petition to preserve Radio 3 when he was a child, not because he liked classical music - he didn't - but he anticipated that when he was older he might *come* to like it. I think that some state-provided entertainment channels free to everyone without advertising has its place, and is worth a bit of tax money (rather than the fiddly licence fee arrangement). In the same way, I don't mind a subsidy to opera houses on condition that they arrange for broadcasts of performances, though I've little interest in opera and assume many patrons can pay. Making every little transaction in life subject to the whims of the free market takes a market economy to the point of dogma.
An uncle of mine (who was quite right wing) went to live in the US in the 1970s. When he came back to live in the UK my father asked him what was best about being back. His answer? BBC. He said anyone who thinks the licence fee should be abolished should be subjected to free market US TV for a month.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Sorry to be a party pooper but I thought you weren't supposed to drink a lot after a vaccination.
No mention of that on the accompanying literature. Interestingly, we were given a quite detailed leaflet on AZ and the (minimal) risks of blood clotting.
Anyway, thanks for your concern. To reassure you, I was being a bit hyperbolic when I wrote that I was going to drink 'copious' amounts of red wine.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Oh yes. And Chilean is the way to go in my (stupendously uninformed) opinion.
French, actually. Crate of Beaujolais from The Wine Society. Easy drinking. I rarely go outside France for my wine - bit of a traditionalist.
Edit: not that I intend to drink the whole crate tonight.
Well it sounds just the ticket. Friday night, all vaxxed up, the big reopening on Monday. If this is not one for marking, nothing is. And just for good measure - if you're a fan like me - Masters golf.
Yes, I follow the big tournaments. Each-way (8 places) bet on Sebastian Munoz. Needs to have a good day today, but you never know. Leeds will beat Man City tomorrow, obviously. And then I've got the beach bar booked for Monday afternoon. Despite everything, life's pretty good.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Sorry to be a party pooper but I thought you weren't supposed to drink a lot after a vaccination.
My Welsh mate was advised not to drink for a week afterwards. The English NHS seems to be giving out no such guidance
I don't see why it having a dance music station is philosophically any different from it having a classical music station. I'm an avid listener of both, so I'm glad it has both.
It shouldn't have either. If you want to pay for either then do so of your own free choice.
A friend rather endearingly signed a petition to preserve Radio 3 when he was a child, not because he liked classical music - he didn't - but he anticipated that when he was older he might *come* to like it. I think that some state-provided entertainment channels free to everyone without advertising has its place, and is worth a bit of tax money (rather than the fiddly licence fee arrangement). In the same way, I don't mind a subsidy to opera houses on condition that they arrange for broadcasts of performances, though I've little interest in opera and assume many patrons can pay. Making every little transaction in life subject to the whims of the free market takes a market economy to the point of dogma.
An uncle of mine (who was quite right wing) went to live in the US in the 1970s. When he came back to live in the UK my father asked him what was best about being back. His answer? BBC. He said anyone who thinks the licence fee should be abolished should be subjected to free market US TV for a month.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Brill plan. I had my second Pfizer yesterday - no side-effects at all bar a very faint twinge in my arm, but best to have some red wine to be safe...
And NON alcoholic wine is even better. All the benefit of red wine without the alcohol.
I’ll be sticking to the usual Chateauneuf-du-Pape, if that’s okay!
Almost as if there exist stations outside of the BBC. Funny that.
There is no substitute for Radios 3, 6 and 1X – yet ludicrously all of these have the Phillip stream.
Do Radio 1Xtra dance music fans typically demonstrate a predilection for rolling obituary?
Radio 1Xtra?
It is beyond ridiculous.
You're right it is beyond ridiculous how many radio stations the BBC has. Is there really a need for a state broadcaster of dance music?
Well beyond time all those stations are either privatised or abolished, there's no justification for a tax/licence fee for that.
Oh, was that not your point?
PS there are plenty of alternatives: Spotify, Amazon, Apple, Youtube . . .
No it wasn't. 1X is great – class house and techno and drum and bass, no ads. Very good quality stream across various mediums.
Radio 3 is utterly brilliant too. No substitute for that. Radio 6, often superb.
BBC Radio is worth the licence fee on its own. I could easily live without the telly bit.
You can get that music on Spotify/YouTube etc too.
If you think its that great then there's no reason you couldn't pay a subscription service for that. The state broadcaster choosing to pay tribute to the death of the consort of the head of state seems reasonable, don't listen to a state broadcaster and choose an alternative if that bothers you.
But that the state broadcaster is involved in dance music shows just how screwed up the BBC is.
I wonder if Russia Today have a dance music station?
I am sure they would if they thought enough dumbass Brits would listen. I am sure Vlad would love to see the end of the BBC, which is yet another reason to keep it.
Amusing but unsurprising to see you jump on the nationalism bandwagon when its convenient for you.
Personally I think we should live how we want to live, not relative to Vlad.
Though considering you think collectivism is the answer all life's ills and that individual choice is an evil to be fought, its unsurprising to see a Marxist like yourself be against people choosing which music providers to pay for instead of having the state choose for us.
I am a moderate Conservative (though no longer a member) you plonker. I don't believe in "collectivism" -you clearly don't understand big words. I believe in not having change for change sake, and where possible the state staying out of our lives. I think Brexit is dumb, but that does not and never has made me a "Europhile", or collectivist. Your posts reveal yourself to be a right wing reactionary. Anything that does not neatly fit your Daily Express mentality will be painted in philistine black and white terms and condemned. So sad. Try and get some real experience of life Philip. You might start to understand that life is often about compromise, and that there is much beauty to be found in places you didn't expect..
You are a collectivist. You can not see any reason that Scotland might want to control its own destiny besides hate of the English. You see no reason why the English might want to control their own destiny than hate of Europeans. You think we are "better together".
Why not just merge with Russia and let Vlad rule a combined union? That'd be bigger too which is better under your unwavering dogma but I'd oppose it 100%.
People are freer when they can make their own choices.
Countries are freer when they can make their own choices.
Oh dear, all the time you spend on here and yet your ability to debate is only just below sixth former. Collectivism is a political philosophy that is so far from my own as it is possible to be. I have no problem with Scotland wanting to "control its destiny" or England for that matter, if one wants to be so simplistic to believe that either entity speaks with one voice.
The reality Philip is that some people hold such views with no malice toward their neighbour. My problem is with those who do, and despite your protestations, your visceral hatred of the EU and its member sovereign states is clearly based ( at the very least at a subconscious level) on xenophobia. One only needs to look at your posts on the vaccines. You loved it that the foreigners had fucked up on their vaccines policy. Your crowing was so sad.
As for your statement "Countries are freer when they can make their own choices" it is almost impossible for you to more naive. Maybe spend less time as a keyboard warrior and more studying history.
Anyway, time for me to do something else! Off for a game of chess while I listen to Radio 3!
In today's Covid stat news (the Plague drags relentlessly on, of course,) we have 60 more deaths reported. 3,150 cases, and 3,005 patients left in hospital.
Barnsley, Clackmannanshire and Corby are the last three local authority areas with case rates exceeding 100 per 100k per week.
I don't see why it having a dance music station is philosophically any different from it having a classical music station. I'm an avid listener of both, so I'm glad it has both.
It shouldn't have either. If you want to pay for either then do so of your own free choice.
A friend rather endearingly signed a petition to preserve Radio 3 when he was a child, not because he liked classical music - he didn't - but he anticipated that when he was older he might *come* to like it. I think that some state-provided entertainment channels free to everyone without advertising has its place, and is worth a bit of tax money (rather than the fiddly licence fee arrangement). In the same way, I don't mind a subsidy to opera houses on condition that they arrange for broadcasts of performances, though I've little interest in opera and assume many patrons can pay. Making every little transaction in life subject to the whims of the free market takes a market economy to the point of dogma.
An uncle of mine (who was quite right wing) went to live in the US in the 1970s. When he came back to live in the UK my father asked him what was best about being back. His answer? BBC. He said anyone who thinks the licence fee should be abolished should be subjected to free market US TV for a month.
US network TV is indeed abysmal - something like 25 mins of ads an hour, half of them for prescription drugs, and the programming all approved by their version of Mary Whitehouse.
No wonder HBO, and now Netflix and Hulu, are so popular over there.
I don't see why it having a dance music station is philosophically any different from it having a classical music station. I'm an avid listener of both, so I'm glad it has both.
It shouldn't have either. If you want to pay for either then do so of your own free choice.
A friend rather endearingly signed a petition to preserve Radio 3 when he was a child, not because he liked classical music - he didn't - but he anticipated that when he was older he might *come* to like it. I think that some state-provided entertainment channels free to everyone without advertising has its place, and is worth a bit of tax money (rather than the fiddly licence fee arrangement). In the same way, I don't mind a subsidy to opera houses on condition that they arrange for broadcasts of performances, though I've little interest in opera and assume many patrons can pay. Making every little transaction in life subject to the whims of the free market takes a market economy to the point of dogma.
An uncle of mine (who was quite right wing) went to live in the US in the 1970s. When he came back to live in the UK my father asked him what was best about being back. His answer? BBC. He said anyone who thinks the licence fee should be abolished should be subjected to free market US TV for a month.
Because the only options in life are the 1950s licence fee or 1970s US broadcast TV. 🙄
Nothing major whatsoever has changed the market in the last fifty years. 🦖
I don't see why it having a dance music station is philosophically any different from it having a classical music station. I'm an avid listener of both, so I'm glad it has both.
It shouldn't have either. If you want to pay for either then do so of your own free choice.
A friend rather endearingly signed a petition to preserve Radio 3 when he was a child, not because he liked classical music - he didn't - but he anticipated that when he was older he might *come* to like it. I think that some state-provided entertainment channels free to everyone without advertising has its place, and is worth a bit of tax money (rather than the fiddly licence fee arrangement). In the same way, I don't mind a subsidy to opera houses on condition that they arrange for broadcasts of performances, though I've little interest in opera and assume many patrons can pay. Making every little transaction in life subject to the whims of the free market takes a market economy to the point of dogma.
An uncle of mine (who was quite right wing) went to live in the US in the 1970s. When he came back to live in the UK my father asked him what was best about being back. His answer? BBC. He said anyone who thinks the licence fee should be abolished should be subjected to free market US TV for a month.
Can confirm.
This is American TV in the 1970s. 50 years ago
Since then we've had a televisual revolution, and now America churns out the best TV drama in the world, and the best TV drama ever seen, plus excellent documentaries, news, comedy, sport (or it did until Covid)
Saying American TV is crap, now, is like saying British food is terrible, now, or South Korean technology is 3rd world, now
You know, when PT goes on simply about this music service or that set of programmes, my general instinct would be to agree with him on most occasions, and the idea of particular BBC services being subscription: we're going to end up with something like that at some point soon.
But the BBC is not simply the sum of commercial or even public service programmes. The Reithian ideal is still imbued in many places in the organisation, another one of those things created by the patrician right of the post war period that somehow is now owned by the left (similar has happened with a lot of workplace culture: H&S was a moustached Tory with a clipboard back in the day). The curation on 1X or 3 or 6Music is openly Reithian and I'm not sure any YouTube or Spotify curation or playlist can replicate that. Though you may think it metropolitan and liberal, difficult biases for a news service running out of a large city by educated and we'll connected folk, it still goes for most of how BBC tries to present the news, indeed the rules for TV news in general are Reithian, and even Sky follows this.
And we feel in general that countries that lack this ethos to the same extent are the poorer for it. So, we can split services, go towards subscription, differentiate commercial and public service. If we do all that, how do we maintain and curate the Reithian ideals, sometimes breached, but clearly still in existence across large part of the BBC and UK broadcasting in general, in a future world?
Why 8? Odd number with no numerological significance that I am aware of
It is beautifully designed to wind up the Left. An excessive amount, and more than a week, FFS
I can sense Owen Jones, through the ether, his trembling fingers poised over his keyboard, as he yearns to tweet something misguided and insulting about the Royals.
He pauses. Drinks some more camomile tea. But then he thinks - 8 days???? And he goes back to his laptop, angry beads of sweat on his boyish brow
Almost as if there exist stations outside of the BBC. Funny that.
There is no substitute for Radios 3, 6 and 1X – yet ludicrously all of these have the Phillip stream.
Do Radio 1Xtra dance music fans typically demonstrate a predilection for rolling obituary?
Radio 1Xtra?
It is beyond ridiculous.
You're right it is beyond ridiculous how many radio stations the BBC has. Is there really a need for a state broadcaster of dance music?
Well beyond time all those stations are either privatised or abolished, there's no justification for a tax/licence fee for that.
Oh, was that not your point?
PS there are plenty of alternatives: Spotify, Amazon, Apple, Youtube . . .
No it wasn't. 1X is great – class house and techno and drum and bass, no ads. Very good quality stream across various mediums.
Radio 3 is utterly brilliant too. No substitute for that. Radio 6, often superb.
BBC Radio is worth the licence fee on its own. I could easily live without the telly bit.
You can get that music on Spotify/YouTube etc too.
If you think its that great then there's no reason you couldn't pay a subscription service for that. The state broadcaster choosing to pay tribute to the death of the consort of the head of state seems reasonable, don't listen to a state broadcaster and choose an alternative if that bothers you.
But that the state broadcaster is involved in dance music shows just how screwed up the BBC is.
I wonder if Russia Today have a dance music station?
I am sure they would if they thought enough dumbass Brits would listen. I am sure Vlad would love to see the end of the BBC, which is yet another reason to keep it.
Amusing but unsurprising to see you jump on the nationalism bandwagon when its convenient for you.
Personally I think we should live how we want to live, not relative to Vlad.
Though considering you think collectivism is the answer all life's ills and that individual choice is an evil to be fought, its unsurprising to see a Marxist like yourself be against people choosing which music providers to pay for instead of having the state choose for us.
I am a moderate Conservative (though no longer a member) you plonker. I don't believe in "collectivism" -you clearly don't understand big words. I believe in not having change for change sake, and where possible the state staying out of our lives. I think Brexit is dumb, but that does not and never has made me a "Europhile", or collectivist. Your posts reveal yourself to be a right wing reactionary. Anything that does not neatly fit your Daily Express mentality will be painted in philistine black and white terms and condemned. So sad. Try and get some real experience of life Philip. You might start to understand that life is often about compromise, and that there is much beauty to be found in places you didn't expect..
You are a collectivist. You can not see any reason that Scotland might want to control its own destiny besides hate of the English. You see no reason why the English might want to control their own destiny than hate of Europeans. You think we are "better together".
Why not just merge with Russia and let Vlad rule a combined union? That'd be bigger too which is better under your unwavering dogma but I'd oppose it 100%.
People are freer when they can make their own choices.
Countries are freer when they can make their own choices.
Oh dear, all the time you spend on here and yet your ability to debate is only just below sixth former. Collectivism is a political philosophy that is so far from my own as it is possible to be. I have no problem with Scotland wanting to "control its destiny" or England for that matter, if one wants to be so simplistic to believe that either entity speaks with one voice.
The reality Philip is that some people hold such views with no malice toward their neighbour. My problem is with those who do, and despite your protestations, your visceral hatred of the EU and its member sovereign states is clearly based ( at the very least at a subconscious level) on xenophobia. One only needs to look at your posts on the vaccines. You loved it that the foreigners had fucked up on their vaccines policy. Your crowing was so sad.
As for your statement "Countries are freer when they can make their own choices" it is almost impossible for you to more naive. Maybe spend less time as a keyboard warrior and more studying history.
Anyway, time for me to do something else! Off for a game of chess while I listen to Radio 3!
I never crowed about the fact the EU fucked up their vaccine scheme. The EU are sclerotic and fuck things up, its what they do. Since you reckon I post so much it shouldn't be difficult for you to quote me saying something xenophobic, but I don't do that.
I think its sad that the EU screwed up their vaccine scheme and provided a thread header that our genial hosts chose to put up on how the EU could improve their systems to prevent it happening again.
Radio 6 is now playing solemn music. This is a little bit disturbing.
Considering non-royal places have inaugurations that seem like coronations, and state funerals with mass crowds, I'm not sure what is that disturbing at a royal place having news coverage and musical solemnity on the day of.
I think we think things are weirder than they are.
Germany really motoring there, very impressive. France, Spain, Poland, Italy all catching up. Excellent
Hopefully the AZ debacle won't knock them - or us - off our stride, and we can put the absurd Vaccine Wars behind us. What an unedifying chapter
AstraZeneca has agreed that almost all the Covid vaccine doses made in the Netherlands over which the UK has made a claim will stay in the EU, as Brussels’ vaccine tsar said Europe was now on track for an “almost normal” tourist season. Thierry Breton, the European commissioner leading the bloc’s vaccine taskforce, said the chief executive of AstraZeneca had confirmed to him that all but 1.2 million to 1.5 million doses at the Dutch plant would now be delivered to EU member states.
The Dutch factory, where the Anglo-Swedish firm’s subcontractor, Halix, makes the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, produces about 7.5 million doses a month, over which the UK claimed it had a contractual right during recent talks. Whitehall officials had proposed a 50/50 split but Mr Breton, a French former finance minister, said Pascal Soriot, AstraZeneca’s French-born chief executive, had recognised that all but one batch of the jabs would go to EU residents.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Brill plan. I had my second Pfizer yesterday - no side-effects at all bar a very faint twinge in my arm, but best to have some red wine to be safe...
Nick: I had my second Pfizer yesterday. If anything with hardly even a sore spot in my shoulder---even less than was the case for #1. Does that mean that we're immune to the bloody virus, or vey susceptible, or nothing whatsoever?
Today will be a great day for Netflix and Amazon viewing and in turn sign-ups.
That's no disrespect to Philip or the BBC's continuous Philip programming - many people will watch a bit of it but I doubt many will want endless hours of the same stuff being repeated on loop.
People will vote with their feet. Of course the BBC does many good things but people are losing interest - as there are more and more tailored services serving people's wishes much better.
Everyone on here is very interested in politics - I suspect even 5 years ago and certainly 10 years ago most would have watched all the BBC's political programmes regularly. But many now say they've just given up and abandoned them.
And similar is happening across many other genres.
I'm surprised how emotional I've felt not least as I was never a particular fan of HRH. Nonetheless it feels like a national occasion. It is extraordinary to think he's been in our national life for 75 years as well as his wartime record.
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Brill plan. I had my second Pfizer yesterday - no side-effects at all bar a very faint twinge in my arm, but best to have some red wine to be safe...
And NON alcoholic wine is even better. All the benefit of red wine without the alcohol.
Surely you want alcohol to kill off any unwanted germs..
Personal vaccine update. Just had my second AZ dose, yippee.
No sign of a blood clot thus far. As a precautionary measure, I'm drinking copious amounts of red wine in order to pre-empt any circulatory problems. I hope PB medics agree that this is a sensible course of action.
Oh yes. And Chilean is the way to go in my (stupendously uninformed) opinion.
French, actually. Crate of Beaujolais from The Wine Society. Easy drinking. I rarely go outside France for my wine - bit of a traditionalist.
Edit: not that I intend to drink the whole crate tonight.
Beaujolais isn’t the best choice, really you want Bordeaux, since Cabernet and Merlot both contain the highest levels of procyanidins, which improve blood flow and reduce risk of inflammation and blood clots.
And this came to me with the caption ‘Prince Phillip’s ghost is spotted at Buckingham Palace’. I’m sure the game old cove would’ve appreciated the humour.
Why 8? Odd number with no numerological significance that I am aware of
It is beautifully designed to wind up the Left. An excessive amount, and more than a week, FFS
I can sense Owen Jones, through the ether, his trembling fingers poised over his keyboard, as he yearns to tweet something misguided and insulting about the Royals.
He pauses. Drinks some more camomile tea. But then he thinks - 8 days???? And he goes back to his laptop, angry beads of sweat on his boyish brow
Or it gives Boris a week off having to interact with MPs.
Why 8? Odd number with no numerological significance that I am aware of
It is beautifully designed to wind up the Left. An excessive amount, and more than a week, FFS
I can sense Owen Jones, through the ether, his trembling fingers poised over his keyboard, as he yearns to tweet something misguided and insulting about the Royals.
He pauses. Drinks some more camomile tea. But then he thinks - 8 days???? And he goes back to his laptop, angry beads of sweat on his boyish brow
So in handling the death of the Monarch's consort the PM's guiding principle is how best to irritate his political opponents.
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Their second album was pish anyway.
Personally I think we should live how we want to live, not relative to Vlad.
Though considering you think collectivism is the answer all life's ills and that individual choice is an evil to be fought, its unsurprising to see a Marxist like yourself be against people choosing which music providers to pay for instead of having the state choose for us.
Edit: not that I intend to drink the whole crate tonight.
I imagine it’ll be different with the Queen because she genuinely represents something monumental, our history since pretty much the War. Having the same monarch is a common thread through all of that. The only one really, when you think about it. Also I do feel an emotional connection with the Queen. There’s all the speeches and footage and stuff over the decades, that’s part of it, but there’s also something closer to home. She’s always been the spitting image of an old Scottish Auntie of mine, and – get this – she was born on the exact same day as that Auntie too. We often used to joke about it. Used to wonder what would happen if my Auntie ever actually met the Queen. Would they recognize the incredible mutual likeness and have a giggle about it? It never happened, needless to say, and neither will it. My Auntie passed away some years ago.
https://twitter.com/kaydiem_/status/1380476245595590656?s=20
If you get odds better than 1.01 for Ben Houchen it's guaranteed money as the other candidate is Jessie Jacobs who even Labour canvassers are refusing to canvass for.
Con
Lib Dem
Green
Heritage Party - Free Speech and Liberty
https://heritageparty.org/manifesto/
I think the last candidate is ex-UKIP.
Is individual choice really such a scary concept?
"Met Prince Phillip at the home of the blues
Said he'd give me information if his name wasn't used
He wanted money up front, said he was abused
By dignity"
https://tinyurl.com/a7h2nct3
Why not just merge with Russia and let Vlad rule a combined union? That'd be bigger too which is better under your unwavering dogma but I'd oppose it 100%.
People are freer when they can make their own choices.
Countries are freer when they can make their own choices.
But much of the music that falls into those categories I find myself no longer wanting to actually listen to.
Getting old is terrible.
Still happy to pay the licence fee for that and everything else the beeb does, whether I consume it personally or not.
Anyway, thanks for your concern. To reassure you, I was being a bit hyperbolic when I wrote that I was going to drink 'copious' amounts of red wine.
https://www.politico.eu/coronavirus-in-europe/
form case data
from hospitalisation
All local election campaigning suspended and no laws to be passed at Westminster during that time
https://twitter.com/toryboypierce/status/1380552498755342340?s=20
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Can't Corbyn ever just make a statement dealing with the here and now, without having to add something else that make it look like he is being catty?
Hopefully the AZ debacle won't knock them - or us - off our stride, and we can put the absurd Vaccine Wars behind us. What an unedifying chapter
The reality Philip is that some people hold such views with no malice toward their neighbour. My problem is with those who do, and despite your protestations, your visceral hatred of the EU and its member sovereign states is clearly based ( at the very least at a subconscious level) on xenophobia. One only needs to look at your posts on the vaccines. You loved it that the foreigners had fucked up on their vaccines policy. Your crowing was so sad.
As for your statement "Countries are freer when they can make their own choices" it is almost impossible for you to more naive. Maybe spend less time as a keyboard warrior and more studying history.
Anyway, time for me to do something else! Off for a game of chess while I listen to Radio 3!
Barnsley, Clackmannanshire and Corby are the last three local authority areas with case rates exceeding 100 per 100k per week.
No wonder HBO, and now Netflix and Hulu, are so popular over there.
Nothing major whatsoever has changed the market in the last fifty years. 🦖
Since then we've had a televisual revolution, and now America churns out the best TV drama in the world, and the best TV drama ever seen, plus excellent documentaries, news, comedy, sport (or it did until Covid)
Saying American TV is crap, now, is like saying British food is terrible, now, or South Korean technology is 3rd world, now
This is a little bit disturbing.
https://www.royal.uk/condolence
But the BBC is not simply the sum of commercial or even public service programmes. The Reithian ideal is still imbued in many places in the organisation, another one of those things created by the patrician right of the post war period that somehow is now owned by the left (similar has happened with a lot of workplace culture: H&S was a moustached Tory with a clipboard back in the day). The curation on 1X or 3 or 6Music is openly Reithian and I'm not sure any YouTube or Spotify curation or playlist can replicate that. Though you may think it metropolitan and liberal, difficult biases for a news service running out of a large city by educated and we'll connected folk, it still goes for most of how BBC tries to present the news, indeed the rules for TV news in general are Reithian, and even Sky follows this.
And we feel in general that countries that lack this ethos to the same extent are the poorer for it. So, we can split services, go towards subscription, differentiate commercial and public service. If we do all that, how do we maintain and curate the Reithian ideals, sometimes breached, but clearly still in existence across large part of the BBC and UK broadcasting in general, in a future world?
I can sense Owen Jones, through the ether, his trembling fingers poised over his keyboard, as he yearns to tweet something misguided and insulting about the Royals.
He pauses. Drinks some more camomile tea. But then he thinks - 8 days???? And he goes back to his laptop, angry beads of sweat on his boyish brow
I think its sad that the EU screwed up their vaccine scheme and provided a thread header that our genial hosts chose to put up on how the EU could improve their systems to prevent it happening again.
I think we think things are weirder than they are.
The Dutch factory, where the Anglo-Swedish firm’s subcontractor, Halix, makes the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, produces about 7.5 million doses a month, over which the UK claimed it had a contractual right during recent talks. Whitehall officials had proposed a 50/50 split but Mr Breton, a French former finance minister, said Pascal Soriot, AstraZeneca’s French-born chief executive, had recognised that all but one batch of the jabs would go to EU residents.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/vaccine-tsar-says-eu-will-get-astrazeneca-doses-over-which-uk-made-claim-1.4532523
"Almost normal" tourist season.....without British tourists?
Does that mean that we're immune to the bloody virus, or vey susceptible, or nothing whatsoever?
However, the dirges coming from my radio...
Unsurprising isn't it that despite the EU vaccine debacle the Germans are the first to put things right.
Does it just mean no gangster rap on Radio 1?
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That's no disrespect to Philip or the BBC's continuous Philip programming - many people will watch a bit of it but I doubt many will want endless hours of the same stuff being repeated on loop.
People will vote with their feet. Of course the BBC does many good things but people are losing interest - as there are more and more tailored services serving people's wishes much better.
Everyone on here is very interested in politics - I suspect even 5 years ago and certainly 10 years ago most would have watched all the BBC's political programmes regularly. But many now say they've just given up and abandoned them.
And similar is happening across many other genres.
Playing cricket with Bradman - never knew that.
https://twitter.com/bellacaledonia/status/1380558979143712768?s=20
Saw that on Twitter a few moments ago.
Yep - that sounds right on brand.