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  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,421

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    The Northern Independence Party is quite a bit more expansionist than I thought. Supposedly it is based on a 1405 agreement, though why that is the endpoint for national identity who knows.

    https://twitter.com/FreeNorthNow/status/1319353669633138693/photo/1

    I presume this is quite a clever unionist psych-op.
    It looks roughly like the Tripartite Indenture, although I don’t think without checking that it extended into East Anglia.

    The deal was Owain ap Gruffudd would rule Wales, Henry Percy would rule the north and Edmund Mortimer (who just happened to be Owain’s son in law and brother to Percy’s daughter in law) would rule the south.
    Wiki reckons it would have looked like this:

    image
    Yes, but if you check the accompanying talk page, you will note they identify that the map is wrong. The North includes Cumberland but not Norfolk, Lincolnshire, Leicestershire, Warwickshire and Northamptonshire.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    kle4 said:

    The Northern Independence Party is quite a bit more expansionist than I thought. Supposedly it is based on a 1405 agreement with a Percy, though why that is the endpoint for national identity who knows.

    https://twitter.com/FreeNorthNow/status/1319353669633138693/photo/1

    I wonder what the GDP per capita would look like for those states
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  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,228

    Omnium said:

    Mr. Eagles, you drunken baboon. The city of Carthage showed surprising valour and competence when it was besieged in the Third Punic War, in stark contrast to earlier contests that may have yielded different results had it not been for the antics of the Peace Party of Hanno.

    So competent that they were wiped off the face of the earth.
    Carthage merely turned into modern-day Tunis. After all, no one speaks Latin any more (except for Vatican City... and pretentious people...).
    It's always puzzled me that Latin vanished. It must have been quite a thing to have been able to travel around the Roman Empire and converse in a common tongue. Obviously there were lots of other languages at the time too. Just weird that all that convenience was discarded by everyone.
    As I understand it, Latin didn't perish so much as evolve and blend into its surroundings, after the Roman political entity disintegrated. It's where all the Romance family of languages came from.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rtY0JhGFfo
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
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  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547
    MattW said:

    AnneJGP said:

    MattW said:

    ydoethur said:

    Would be interested to see the figure for Ireland, particularly given many seem to be slipping across the border to get vaccinated there if they can.

    Edited because on reflection my language was unfairly slanted.
    I would be interested to know the actual number of people who from the ROI are being vaccinated in the North.
    I gather ROI Covid-19 precautions include no-one travelling more than 5km from home. So it will be people within 5km of the border.

    I was pleased to read that NI are doing this, but absolutely take on board the feelings of mainland UK people who are still waiting to be jabbed.

    However if it is only the very close ROI people who are getting the vaccines, that does seem to me a good reason. It would be akin to vaccinating Hampshire but not the near neighbours in Wiltshire.

    Good afternoon, everybody.
    Hello Anne.

    I would imagine that the likelihood of everyone in the RoI sticking to the 5km rule, especially if the prize for sacking it off is vaccination months ahead of schedule, is zero. As to how many of them are actually doing it, who can say? I can't readily find a figure for the percentage of the RoI population thought to have an NHS number.
    Related:

    Approximately 150k within 5km of the border. Which is 3%.

    Assuming uniform population distribution.
    150k, or half a morning at the minute.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,228
    Sean_F said:

    Foxy said:

    Dura_Ace said:



    Perhaps the judgment as to whether "Mum I'd Love to Fuck" is offensive should be left to mothers ?

    It's LIKE not LOVE. The implied ambivalence is crucial.

    Please review all of Stifler's dialogue in American Pie.

    Worth noting that that MILF has now entered the language as a term in its own right. Also that other similar pornification of language occurs, even in the hallowed place of PB, such as discussion of Step-Mums* on Pornhub.

    *Step Incest fantasy does seem to be a popular genre which strikes me as very odd.
    Incest has become a very popular variant of porn, probably due to A Game of Thrones and Frozen.
    AIUI Step incest is not actually incest.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164

    felix said:

    Top trolling Boris!

    "RTVE Spain:
    Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!

    Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada.

    Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses.
    Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_
    desde @RTVEAndalucia"

    You Boris cheerleaders have a peculiar view of the world. I hope your hero doesn't share this notion of one-upmanship.
    Rather too much vinegar on your chips today methinks...
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,376
    Omnium said:

    Mr. Eagles, you drunken baboon. The city of Carthage showed surprising valour and competence when it was besieged in the Third Punic War, in stark contrast to earlier contests that may have yielded different results had it not been for the antics of the Peace Party of Hanno.

    So competent that they were wiped off the face of the earth.
    Carthage merely turned into modern-day Tunis. After all, no one speaks Latin any more (except for Vatican City... and pretentious people...).
    It's always puzzled me that Latin vanished. It must have been quite a thing to have been able to travel around the Roman Empire and converse in a common tongue. Obviously there were lots of other languages at the time too. Just weird that all that convenience was discarded by everyone.
    It didn't really vanish. It just evolved into other languages, Italian, Romansch, Spanish, Occitan, Catalan, French. The Latin one studies at school is in any case, the literary language of the upper classes in the last century of the Republic. It's not the Vulgar tongue that was spoken by most of the population.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164

    felix said:

    Top trolling Boris!

    "RTVE Spain:
    Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!

    Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada.

    Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses.
    Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_
    desde @RTVEAndalucia"

    You Boris cheerleaders have a peculiar view of the world. I hope your hero doesn't share this notion of one-upmanship.
    If we had the same deaths per Capita as Gibralter we would be at almost 200K

    Completely moronic post from Felix
    What a sad bitter post ... :smiley:
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,376
    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Stocky said:

    Sandpit said:

    The German health ministry's latest communication about AZ is unbelievable. The video starts with a "warning notice about AstraZeneca" and says that the EMA has determined that using AZ "outweighs the risks" before showing a scary graphic of the brain and talking about clots.

    https://twitter.com/BMG_Bund/status/1373227912598581249

    What on Earth are they playing at? It’s as if they’re going through the motions of telling everyone it’s safe, while simultaneously nudging everyone to think it’s dangerous.
    What they are playing at is putting the shoring-up of the EU ahead of the pandemic response.

    The EU is terrified that the UK, having just left, will soon, as with images from Israel, revert to a sort-of normal existence which will contrast significantly with other European nations. Their response is to downplay this effect wherever possible, and the EU has latched on to the idea of rubbishing the Oxford AZN vaccine in order to produce the narrative that UK citizens are not really vaccinated. Not really.

    Their fear, of course, is that the other EU nations who already have eurosceptic populations will have this amplified, thus threatening the existence of (or at least weakening further) the whole project.
    Stopping Germans from taking the AZ vaccine will have the opposite effect, though, because it lengthens the time between the UK and Germany returning to normal.
    And yet that looks like the strategy to blame shift.
    I'm not taking anything for granted because I'm in not believing anything good will happen before it actually does mode; HOWEVER... if this does all end with the UK coming out the other side of this catastrophe 3, 4 or 6 months ahead of most of the rest of Europe, then you can see the next ploy coming a mile off: blame the Evil Brits for cheating and stealing. Creating the illusion of being bookended in the West as well as the East by a malign foreign power suits the EU narrative just fine: circle the wagons.
    Yes, brexit Britain has definitely become the target of the EU's two minutes hate. It's quite the role reversal.
    They really are acting like a jilted ex.

    And, yes, they really do think we are stealing their vaccines.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164

    felix said:

    Top trolling Boris!

    "RTVE Spain:
    Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!

    Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada.

    Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses.
    Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_
    desde @RTVEAndalucia"

    You Boris cheerleaders have a peculiar view of the world. I hope your hero doesn't share this notion of one-upmanship.
    If we had the same deaths per Capita as Gibralter we would be at almost 200K

    Completely moronic post from Felix
    FWIW I don't think you can draw inferences from inflated death rates in microstates. Gibraltar has a population of less than 35,000 - the difference between what, on a larger scale, would be considered a slight, a middling or a quite extreme per capita death toll is therefore very small.

    Shrunk down to the scale of Gibraltar, 45 dead would match the EU average, 89 dead would be double the EU average (and represent the worst per capita rate in the whole world) and 22 dead would be half the EU average and significantly better than Germany. Luck probably plays a large part in jurisdictions as tiny as this.
    It is also tiny in size with massive daily movement back and forth from Spain. BJO does bitterness - alas he does not do much Geography or indeed much of anything else.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,487
    That suggested border by the Northern Independence Party is as audacious as me trying to claim England's true borders run down to Aquitaine.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,599
    Could England actually make this target?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,710
    Cyclefree said:

    Cookie said:



    By the way, as a thoroughly woke leftist, I'm struggling to understand what critics think is so terrible about the centrist Hartlepool candidate having talked about Tory MILFs who he fancied 10 years ago. I remember the Nottingham Post doing a poll on Most Fanciable East Midlands MP" (yeah, was a slow news week) - IIRC I came second (to Alan Simpson in the not very challenging contest and was amused rather than insulted. The MILF term is a bit crude but not really objectifying.

    Fanciable and MILF are NOT the same.

    Are you really so dense that you can't understand that a porn grouping is offensive?

    Not least, the underlying sub-text is Mums are not worth shagging after giving birth, they are too ancient and haggard, but even so here is a MILF, one I'd like to fuck.

    MILF might be excusable if said by a sad-sack , teenage virgin ... but by a Labour PPC, no way.

    After a few years of wokeness, we are unfortunately back to 'Iraq War' Palmer, justifying the unjustifiable on pb.com because it is the Labour party doing it.

    Go on, say it Nick, it was just bantz.
    No, I'm allowing myself in semi-retirement to be honest about things I don't get. I've heard MILF used in non-porn contexts, and it's obviously crude but not usually intended to be insulting. That said, I see what you mean about the subtext - thanks.
    I'm with Nick. Milf has crossed over from porn to just mid-level crude. Cruder than 'totty'. Less crude than 'crack'. (Both of which feel curiously dated now).
    The fact that no-one (other than me, seemingly) seems concerned at the way porn terms - and the attitudes underlying them - are crossing into common usage is in itself a problem. IMO.
    Ahem. I too decried the pornification of language.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,258
    Sean_F said:

    MaxPB said:

    MaxPB said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Stocky said:

    Sandpit said:

    The German health ministry's latest communication about AZ is unbelievable. The video starts with a "warning notice about AstraZeneca" and says that the EMA has determined that using AZ "outweighs the risks" before showing a scary graphic of the brain and talking about clots.

    https://twitter.com/BMG_Bund/status/1373227912598581249

    What on Earth are they playing at? It’s as if they’re going through the motions of telling everyone it’s safe, while simultaneously nudging everyone to think it’s dangerous.
    What they are playing at is putting the shoring-up of the EU ahead of the pandemic response.

    The EU is terrified that the UK, having just left, will soon, as with images from Israel, revert to a sort-of normal existence which will contrast significantly with other European nations. Their response is to downplay this effect wherever possible, and the EU has latched on to the idea of rubbishing the Oxford AZN vaccine in order to produce the narrative that UK citizens are not really vaccinated. Not really.

    Their fear, of course, is that the other EU nations who already have eurosceptic populations will have this amplified, thus threatening the existence of (or at least weakening further) the whole project.
    Stopping Germans from taking the AZ vaccine will have the opposite effect, though, because it lengthens the time between the UK and Germany returning to normal.
    And yet that looks like the strategy to blame shift.
    I'm not taking anything for granted because I'm in not believing anything good will happen before it actually does mode; HOWEVER... if this does all end with the UK coming out the other side of this catastrophe 3, 4 or 6 months ahead of most of the rest of Europe, then you can see the next ploy coming a mile off: blame the Evil Brits for cheating and stealing. Creating the illusion of being bookended in the West as well as the East by a malign foreign power suits the EU narrative just fine: circle the wagons.
    Yes, brexit Britain has definitely become the target of the EU's two minutes hate. It's quite the role reversal.
    They really are acting like a jilted ex.

    And, yes, they really do think we are stealing their vaccines.
    They should realise that we are quite capable of revelling in our status as Perfidious Albion. That Frenchman who said that the sun never sets on the British Empire because God doesn't trust an Englishman in the dark is usually quoted approvingly. By Englishmen.
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