By the way, as a thoroughly woke leftist, I'm struggling to understand what critics think is so terrible about the centrist Hartlepool candidate having talked about Tory MILFs who he fancied 10 years ago. I remember the Nottingham Post doing a poll on Most Fanciable East Midlands MP" (yeah, was a slow news week) - IIRC I came second (to Alan Simpson in the not very challenging contest and was amused rather than insulted. The MILF term is a bit crude but not really objectifying.
Fanciable and MILF are NOT the same.
Are you really so dense that you can't understand that a porn grouping is offensive?
Not least, the underlying sub-text is Mums are not worth shagging after giving birth, they are too ancient and haggard, but even so here is a MILF, one I'd like to fuck.
MILF might be excusable if said by a sad-sack , teenage virgin ... but by a Labour PPC, no way.
After a few years of wokeness, we are unfortunately back to 'Iraq War' Palmer, justifying the unjustifiable on pb.com because it is the Labour party doing it.
Go on, say it Nick, it was just bantz.
No, I'm allowing myself in semi-retirement to be honest about things I don't get. I've heard MILF used in non-porn contexts, and it's obviously crude but not usually intended to be insulting. That said, I see what you mean about the subtext - thanks.
I'm with Nick. Milf has crossed over from porn to just mid-level crude. Cruder than 'totty'. Less crude than 'crack'. (Both of which feel curiously dated now).
The fact that no-one (other than me, seemingly) seems concerned at the way porn terms - and the attitudes underlying them - are crossing into common usage is in itself a problem. IMO.
A lot of us, I think, would not recognise a porn term if we saw it, Ms Cyclefree. The number of perverts here is more limited that you might think.
That's the point, though, isn't it? We don't recognise where it comes from. Some see it as as using banter if a bit crude. Others do recognise it and dislike it.
In the meanwhile the pornification of our language continues. What we say about people reveals what we think about them. That applies to women just as much as it does to black people. Or any other group.
As I wrote last week-
"We might also want to consider whether the pornification of much of our media and the normalisation of porn are a good thing. The view that it gives of women is not one calculated to induce respect or indeed a realistic view of sexual relations or female sexuality. Not an easy topic. No-one wants a Mary Whitehouse-style Puritanism. But attitudes and behaviour are formed by many factors. If we really want to change the former we need to address why people have the views they do."
Judging by the stories in today's Times about what has been going on in some of our more prestigious public schools we urgently need to address the question of why people - let's be blunt - many (not all) young men have the attitudes towards women they do.
Here is the difficulty with all of this. Restrictions on expression (which was widespread until quite recently) entail constant and unremitting attack from liberals, lawyers, free speechers and left leaners (see for example John Mortimer from the old days passim.) .
Unrestricted and unlimited expression is, effectively, what we have, (about and for +18s) and its consequences entail constant and unremitting attack from some of the same people + lots of others.
(Incidentally the under 18/16 bar leads to the absurdity that in law it is illegal for two 15 year olds to have a snog - a splendid effort to abolish human nature.)
Nearly every thinking person wants a middle ground, and so far as I can see such middle ground would only be available on the impossible condition that people freely agree to self limitation. For commercial reasons, as well as human nature reasons, that is not going to happen, any more than we are freely going to stop getting drunk or being a slob.
That is why this is a difficult issue and there are no easy answers.
But some level of self-control (or self-limitation, as you put it) is surely a key element in what it means to be an adult.
Just because we can do something does not mean that we should. And using our judgment about when and whether we should do something is surely what we should be teaching our young and doing ourselves.
Would be interested to see the figure for Ireland, particularly given many seem to be slipping across the border to get vaccinated there if they can.
Edited because on reflection my language was unfairly slanted.
I would be interested to know the actual number of people who from the ROI are being vaccinated in the North.
I gather ROI Covid-19 precautions include no-one travelling more than 5km from home. So it will be people within 5km of the border.
I was pleased to read that NI are doing this, but absolutely take on board the feelings of mainland UK people who are still waiting to be jabbed.
However if it is only the very close ROI people who are getting the vaccines, that does seem to me a good reason. It would be akin to vaccinating Hampshire but not the near neighbours in Wiltshire.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Hello Anne.
I would imagine that the likelihood of everyone in the RoI sticking to the 5km rule, especially if the prize for sacking it off is vaccination months ahead of schedule, is zero. As to how many of them are actually doing it, who can say? I can't readily find a figure for the percentage of the RoI population thought to have an NHS number.
By the way, as a thoroughly woke leftist, I'm struggling to understand what critics think is so terrible about the centrist Hartlepool candidate having talked about Tory MILFs who he fancied 10 years ago. I remember the Nottingham Post doing a poll on Most Fanciable East Midlands MP" (yeah, was a slow news week) - IIRC I came second (to Alan Simpson in the not very challenging contest and was amused rather than insulted. The MILF term is a bit crude but not really objectifying.
Fanciable and MILF are NOT the same.
Are you really so dense that you can't understand that a porn grouping is offensive?
Not least, the underlying sub-text is Mums are not worth shagging after giving birth, they are too ancient and haggard, but even so here is a MILF, one I'd like to fuck.
MILF might be excusable if said by a sad-sack , teenage virgin ... but by a Labour PPC, no way.
After a few years of wokeness, we are unfortunately back to 'Iraq War' Palmer, justifying the unjustifiable on pb.com because it is the Labour party doing it.
Go on, say it Nick, it was just bantz.
No, I'm allowing myself in semi-retirement to be honest about things I don't get. I've heard MILF used in non-porn contexts, and it's obviously crude but not usually intended to be insulting. That said, I see what you mean about the subtext - thanks.
I'm with Nick. Milf has crossed over from porn to just mid-level crude. Cruder than 'totty'. Less crude than 'crack'. (Both of which feel curiously dated now).
The fact that no-one (other than me, seemingly) seems concerned at the way porn terms - and the attitudes underlying them - are crossing into common usage is in itself a problem. IMO.
A lot of us, I think, would not recognise a porn term if we saw it, Ms Cyclefree. The number of perverts here is more limited that you might think.
That's the point, though, isn't it? We don't recognise where it comes from. Some see it as as using banter if a bit crude. Others do recognise it and dislike it.
In the meanwhile the pornification of our language continues. What we say about people reveals what we think about them. That applies to women just as much as it does to black people. Or any other group.
As I wrote last week-
"We might also want to consider whether the pornification of much of our media and the normalisation of porn are a good thing. The view that it gives of women is not one calculated to induce respect or indeed a realistic view of sexual relations or female sexuality. Not an easy topic. No-one wants a Mary Whitehouse-style Puritanism. But attitudes and behaviour are formed by many factors. If we really want to change the former we need to address why people have the views they do."
Judging by the stories in today's Times about what has been going on in some of our more prestigious public schools we urgently need to address the question of why people - let's be blunt - many (not all) young men have the attitudes towards women they do.
Here is the difficulty with all of this. Restrictions on expression (which was widespread until quite recently) entail constant and unremitting attack from liberals, lawyers, free speechers and left leaners (see for example John Mortimer from the old days passim.) .
Unrestricted and unlimited expression is, effectively, what we have, (about and for +18s) and its consequences entail constant and unremitting attack from some of the same people + lots of others.
(Incidentally the under 18/16 bar leads to the absurdity that in law it is illegal for two 15 year olds to have a snog - a splendid effort to abolish human nature.)
Nearly every thinking person wants a middle ground, and so far as I can see such middle ground would only be available on the impossible condition that people freely agree to self limitation. For commercial reasons, as well as human nature reasons, that is not going to happen, any more than we are freely going to stop getting drunk or being a slob.
That is why this is a difficult issue and there are no easy answers.
But some level of self-control (or self-limitation, as you put it) is surely a key element in what it means to be an adult.
Just because we can do something does not mean that we should. And using our judgment about when and whether we should do something is surely what we should be teaching our young and doing ourselves.
The German health ministry's latest communication about AZ is unbelievable. The video starts with a "warning notice about AstraZeneca" and says that the EMA has determined that using AZ "outweighs the risks" before showing a scary graphic of the brain and talking about clots.
What on Earth are they playing at? It’s as if they’re going through the motions of telling everyone it’s safe, while simultaneously nudging everyone to think it’s dangerous.
What they are playing at is putting the shoring-up of the EU ahead of the pandemic response.
The EU is terrified that the UK, having just left, will soon, as with images from Israel, revert to a sort-of normal existence which will contrast significantly with other European nations. Their response is to downplay this effect wherever possible, and the EU has latched on to the idea of rubbishing the Oxford AZN vaccine in order to produce the narrative that UK citizens are not really vaccinated. Not really.
Their fear, of course, is that the other EU nations who already have eurosceptic populations will have this amplified, thus threatening the existence of (or at least weakening further) the whole project.
AOC is a Trump-style politician (in terms of dogmatism, arrogance, rudeness, contempt for democracy etc) with female genitals. She might well run but God help us all if she is the best the USA can come up with.
If the left are looking for a young standard bearer a more realistic one, not mentioned here, would be Jon Ossoff. He has more campaigning experience than Buttigieg, more appeal than Harris and certainly he’s demonstrated his ability to reach out to voters to win against the odds.
But my instinct is it will be Harris, quite possibly as a one-year incumbent.
While ideological, since entering Congress, she appears to be considerably more pragmatic than you suggest. And no ruder (and usually with every bit as good justification) than you are. I’m not sure where you get the contempt for democracy thing ? Or indeed the Trump comparison.
I don’t share her politics, but she’s the smartest socialist I’ve seen for a long time.
This. When reading that post I honestly didn’t get that analysis, it felt a bit bizarre really. Politics shouldn’t just be individuals who hold mainstream, centre ground opinions. It’s good to have radicals and those who challenge the status quo and get us to think about whether the world around us can be a bit different.
I also get the impression that some just don’t like very left leaning figures, and don’t think they have a place in the political debate.
As I expected, nowhere near 100% effectiveness against serious disease or death in over 70s. Good protection, excellent even, but not nearly 100%. We need to not get carried away.
--AS
Don't know what the previous discussion was about, but this is data for test 14+ days after 1st dose.
Protection increases after 1st dose until about 22 days after vaccination, and increases further up to 14 days after 2nd dose. So the figures cited in this report are pretty much the lowest levels of protection provided by vaccination once it starts to provide any degree of protection, not the level of protection once full protection is achieved 14 days after 2nd dose.
You're right that they aggregate 14+ days (by test result) in the protections against hospitalization/death, and I had forgotten that this will reflect infections that occurred, say, 9+ days after.
Nonetheless, it's reasonable to believe that many of those hospitalizations and deaths were in the 21+ day group. I wish they had broken that out, because they show protection against *symptoms* is much stronger at 21+ and pretty much finished at 28+ (even a 2nd dose adds rather little to this, though confidence is low). I guess we'll have to wait for a later report.
I've just been concerned about some comments here predicting near-100% protection against death, which is incompatible with Israel data.
By the way, as a thoroughly woke leftist, I'm struggling to understand what critics think is so terrible about the centrist Hartlepool candidate having talked about Tory MILFs who he fancied 10 years ago. I remember the Nottingham Post doing a poll on Most Fanciable East Midlands MP" (yeah, was a slow news week) - IIRC I came second (to Alan Simpson in the not very challenging contest and was amused rather than insulted. The MILF term is a bit crude but not really objectifying.
Fanciable and MILF are NOT the same.
Are you really so dense that you can't understand that a porn grouping is offensive?
Not least, the underlying sub-text is Mums are not worth shagging after giving birth, they are too ancient and haggard, but even so here is a MILF, one I'd like to fuck.
MILF might be excusable if said by a sad-sack , teenage virgin ... but by a Labour PPC, no way.
After a few years of wokeness, we are unfortunately back to 'Iraq War' Palmer, justifying the unjustifiable on pb.com because it is the Labour party doing it.
Go on, say it Nick, it was just bantz.
No, I'm allowing myself in semi-retirement to be honest about things I don't get. I've heard MILF used in non-porn contexts, and it's obviously crude but not usually intended to be insulting. That said, I see what you mean about the subtext - thanks.
I'm with Nick. Milf has crossed over from porn to just mid-level crude. Cruder than 'totty'. Less crude than 'crack'. (Both of which feel curiously dated now).
The fact that no-one (other than me, seemingly) seems concerned at the way porn terms - and the attitudes underlying them - are crossing into common usage is in itself a problem. IMO.
A lot of us, I think, would not recognise a porn term if we saw it, Ms Cyclefree. The number of perverts here is more limited that you might think.
That's the point, though, isn't it? We don't recognise where it comes from. Some see it as as using banter if a bit crude. Others do recognise it and dislike it.
In the meanwhile the pornification of our language continues. What we say about people reveals what we think about them. That applies to women just as much as it does to black people. Or any other group.
As I wrote last week-
"We might also want to consider whether the pornification of much of our media and the normalisation of porn are a good thing. The view that it gives of women is not one calculated to induce respect or indeed a realistic view of sexual relations or female sexuality. Not an easy topic. No-one wants a Mary Whitehouse-style Puritanism. But attitudes and behaviour are formed by many factors. If we really want to change the former we need to address why people have the views they do."
Judging by the stories in today's Times about what has been going on in some of our more prestigious public schools we urgently need to address the question of why people - let's be blunt - many (not all) young men have the attitudes towards women they do.
Here is the difficulty with all of this. Restrictions on expression (which was widespread until quite recently) entail constant and unremitting attack from liberals, lawyers, free speechers and left leaners (see for example John Mortimer from the old days passim.) .
Unrestricted and unlimited expression is, effectively, what we have, (about and for +18s) and its consequences entail constant and unremitting attack from some of the same people + lots of others.
(Incidentally the under 18/16 bar leads to the absurdity that in law it is illegal for two 15 year olds to have a snog - a splendid effort to abolish human nature.)
Nearly every thinking person wants a middle ground, and so far as I can see such middle ground would only be available on the impossible condition that people freely agree to self limitation. For commercial reasons, as well as human nature reasons, that is not going to happen, any more than we are freely going to stop getting drunk or being a slob.
That is why this is a difficult issue and there are no easy answers.
But some level of self-control (or self-limitation, as you put it) is surely a key element in what it means to be an adult.
Just because we can do something does not mean that we should. And using our judgment about when and whether we should do something is surely what we should be teaching our young and doing ourselves.
Or trying to, anyway.
Have you read Mindsight, by Daniel Siegel? I highly recommend it. It is not about pornography, but about neuroplasticity (focussing on trauma, phobias and PTSD), and how we restructure our brains by what we habitually do. That is the true damage done by addiction to pornography in the young - it rewires their brains in very damaging ways. But the good news is that it is possible to undo that damage - it just takes a lot of deliberate hard work.
MILF is a term I had never previously encountered. I doubt that I am alone.
Nice try
It happens to be a fact. Having had it explained, it appears far less serious than clear evidence of a candidate or MP having been an adulterer - Liz Truss aka 'the Tory Trollop' comes to mind.
Sorry, what?
Justin a social conservative, a pre Plantagenet social conservative.
Have you forgotten his soliloquies on bastards?
Only a little less disturbing than @Roger ’s views in #metoo
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
From my analysis of the weekly release of the vaccination data for England. Take-up per age group using the NIMIS population estimates (based on ONS 2019)
The numbers in the older cohorts in particular are very impressive, although some geographical disparities stubbornly persist. I went through the most recent weekly NHS England vaccination update and did my own, comparatively amateurish, investigation into percentage take up amongst the over 80s, as broken down by CCG. The bottom 20% of CCGs by this metric are listed as follows:
1. Central London (Westminster) 60.3% 2. West London 70.3% 3. City & Hackney 70.4% 4. Newham 72.2% 5. Tower Hamlets 73.8% 6. Waltham Forest 76.4% 7. Brent 79.6% 8. Hammersmith & Fulham 79.7% 9. Barking & Dagenham 80.0% 10. North Central London 82.0% 11. Luton 84.7% 12. Ealing 84.8% 13. South East London 86.4% 14. Manchester 86.9% 15. Leicester City 87.0% 16. Redbridge 87.1% 17. Havering 87.9% 18. Sandwell & West Birmingham 88.1% 19. Liverpool 88.8% 20.= South West London 89.3% 20.= Heywood, Middleton & Rochdale 89.3% 22. Brighton & Hove 89.4% 23. Hounslow 89.5% 24. North Kirklees 89.8% 25. Knowsley 89.9% 26. Harrow 90.1% 27.= Southend 90.3% 27.= Birmingham & Solihull 90.3%
A pretty clear, if not terribly surprising, pattern suggests itself.
My spreadsheet (above) does it down to MSOA - which is are tiny areas, nearly 7K of them in England.
Mr. Eagles, you drunken baboon. The city of Carthage showed surprising valour and competence when it was besieged in the Third Punic War, in stark contrast to earlier contests that may have yielded different results had it not been for the antics of the Peace Party of Hanno.
Mr. Eagles, you drunken baboon. The city of Carthage showed surprising valour and competence when it was besieged in the Third Punic War, in stark contrast to earlier contests that may have yielded different results had it not been for the antics of the Peace Party of Hanno.
So competent that they were wiped off the face of the earth.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Well done them. They still had to get the arms jabbed.
May not count as UK exports, but it's a win anyway.
Perhaps Dr.UvdL could persuade Bayer or some other German chemicals firm to take over Croda before banning exports to the UK and getting the EU exposed to tit for tat on the precursors. Learn from the Irish. Get your retaliation in first.
Again, I don't understand picking Curran if he is only going to bowl 1 over, given all the batting firepower England could pick, Banton, Salt, Hales, Billings, even Ali.
Again, I don't understand picking Curran if he is only going to bowl 1 over, given all the batting firepower England could pick, Banton, Salt, Hales, Billings, even Ali.
We ought to drop Stokes.
He's never ever hit a fifty in this format and his bowling is rubbish in this format, I mean he'll never top his performance in the t20 world cup final of 2016.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Fallen from the highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
To highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
MILF is a term I had never previously encountered. I doubt that I am alone.
Nice try
It happens to be a fact. Having had it explained, it appears far less serious than clear evidence of a candidate or MP having been an adulterer - Liz Truss aka 'the Tory Trollop' comes to mind.
Labour have been pushing for a law against Misogyny this week
Then exclude all women from the Longlist, and impose a man who tweets one of the most debasing terms possible in respect of Tory "Mothers I'd like to Fuck", on Hartlepool Labour Members
This is a seat Labour has never ever lost before.
IMO its a disaster waiting to happen
Don’t forget that he was also one of the most prominent Parliamentary ‘Remoaners’ in a seat that voted 70/30 for Brexit, and was defeated at the 2019 election.
Brexit is over. We all love Brexit now, we have moved on. The issue of the moment is "me too" misogyny and women's rights, keep up...oh wait...
Mr. Eagles, you drunken baboon. The city of Carthage showed surprising valour and competence when it was besieged in the Third Punic War, in stark contrast to earlier contests that may have yielded different results had it not been for the antics of the Peace Party of Hanno.
So competent that they were wiped off the face of the earth.
Somebody could be competent yet still inadequate to the task before them. Ask Pyrrhus about winning, and thus presumably being competent, yet not succeeding.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
I think I read somewhere that, except for hyper-remote Pitcairn, all of the permanently inhabited overseas territories had been supplied with enough vaccine to run a complete program. Gibraltar, probably because it's the only one with a land border, appears to have been prioritised ahead of the others, but what available data there are suggests that a number of the others (e.g. Bermuda, Saint Helena and the Falklands) are also ahead of the UK's per capita rate.
Mr. Eagles, you drunken baboon. The city of Carthage showed surprising valour and competence when it was besieged in the Third Punic War, in stark contrast to earlier contests that may have yielded different results had it not been for the antics of the Peace Party of Hanno.
So competent that they were wiped off the face of the earth.
Somebody could be competent yet still inadequate to the task before them. Ask Pyrrhus about winning, and thus presumably being competent, yet not succeeding.
It's all about the ultimate end result.
I mean Japan had a pretty good end to 1941 and start to 1942 in WWII.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
You Boris cheerleaders have a peculiar view of the world. I hope your hero doesn't share this notion of one-upmanship.
Would be interested to see the figure for Ireland, particularly given many seem to be slipping across the border to get vaccinated there if they can.
Edited because on reflection my language was unfairly slanted.
I would be interested to know the actual number of people who from the ROI are being vaccinated in the North.
I gather ROI Covid-19 precautions include no-one travelling more than 5km from home. So it will be people within 5km of the border.
I was pleased to read that NI are doing this, but absolutely take on board the feelings of mainland UK people who are still waiting to be jabbed.
However if it is only the very close ROI people who are getting the vaccines, that does seem to me a good reason. It would be akin to vaccinating Hampshire but not the near neighbours in Wiltshire.
Good afternoon, everybody.
I think there will be universal support for that, because in the scheme the numbers are tiny - the whole of NI is a rounding error quantity-wise - and it can be viewed through a 'protect ourselves' or 'help our friends' lens. And it helps having *something* +ve in the post-Brexit relationship, and is not overt enough to poke EU in the eye too much. And skates round any 'ROI dependent on UK' politics.
Is this a clever way for the SNP to get the findings of the report thrown out, as it is now tainted?
@ Mr Divvie. Genuinely interested in your take on this.
I'm not sure that there was much more tainting to be done, the whole thing is an almighty mess. There should be a complete ban on members of committees tweeting, giving interviews and writing opinion pieces (and of course leaking decisions) on committee proceedings until the findings are published. We're now at the stage where various folk are loudly proclaiming that a killer conclusion has been reached without being able to clearly state what that conclusion is.
The replies to the original tweet in the post to which you replied are a case in point, with wrong assertions and partisan points being made from all sides.
Cui bono? The Tories, Scottish and English, will probably take spreading enough muck if they can't get a killer blow, the SNP are ironically in the same position. The real loser in the long run is Holyrood which won't break Westminster hearts.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
You Boris cheerleaders have a peculiar view of the world. I hope your hero doesn't share this notion of one-upmanship.
I wonder if the cheerleaders have been sharing this?
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Fallen from the highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
To highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
Not sure the point you are making. By the stats you link, Czechia, Belgium, Slovenia and Montenegro all have higher death rates per capita, and there are a bunch of other countries clustered around the UK number.
The situation in the UK was very bad, no one challenges that. But it is improving faster than most of Europe. So what is your point?
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
You Boris cheerleaders have a peculiar view of the world. I hope your hero doesn't share this notion of one-upmanship.
If we had the same deaths per Capita as Gibralter we would be at almost 200K
Is this a clever way for the SNP to get the findings of the report thrown out, as it is now tainted?
@ Mr Divvie. Genuinely interested in your take on this.
I'm not sure that there was much more tainting to be done, the whole thing is an almighty mess. There should be a complete ban on members of committees tweeting, giving interviews and writing opinion pieces (and of course leaking decisions) on committee proceedings until the findings are published. We're now at the stage where various folk are loudly proclaiming that a killer conclusion has been reached without being able to clearly state what that conclusion is.
The replies to the original tweet in the post to which you replied are a case in point, with wrong assertions and partisan points being made from all sides.
Cui bono? The Tories, Scottish and English, will probably take spreading enough muck if they can't get a killer blow, the SNP are ironically in the same position. The real loser in the long run is Holyrood which won't break Westminster hearts.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Fallen from the highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
To highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
Not sure the point you are making. By the stats you link, Czechia, Belgium, Slovenia and Montenegro all have higher death rates per capita, and there are a bunch of other countries clustered around the UK number.
The situation in the UK was very bad, no one challenges that. But it is improving faster than most of Europe. So what is your point?
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Fallen from the highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
To highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
Under excess deaths (the vastly more accurate measure) we're 11th worst in Europe, which while bad, once adjusted for weight and the fact that we've (hopefully) seen our last wave isn't awful.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
You Boris cheerleaders have a peculiar view of the world. I hope your hero doesn't share this notion of one-upmanship.
If we had the same deaths per Capita as Gibralter we would be at almost 200K
Completely moronic post from Felix
Surely he was merely celebrating their swiftness in rolling out the vaccine program? That's definitely a good thing, and that their death rate became so high makes it even more of a good thing.
By the way, as a thoroughly woke leftist, I'm struggling to understand what critics think is so terrible about the centrist Hartlepool candidate having talked about Tory MILFs who he fancied 10 years ago. I remember the Nottingham Post doing a poll on Most Fanciable East Midlands MP" (yeah, was a slow news week) - IIRC I came second (to Alan Simpson in the not very challenging contest and was amused rather than insulted. The MILF term is a bit crude but not really objectifying.
Fanciable and MILF are NOT the same.
Are you really so dense that you can't understand that a porn grouping is offensive?
Not least, the underlying sub-text is Mums are not worth shagging after giving birth, they are too ancient and haggard, but even so here is a MILF, one I'd like to fuck.
MILF might be excusable if said by a sad-sack , teenage virgin ... but by a Labour PPC, no way.
After a few years of wokeness, we are unfortunately back to 'Iraq War' Palmer, justifying the unjustifiable on pb.com because it is the Labour party doing it.
Go on, say it Nick, it was just bantz.
No, I'm allowing myself in semi-retirement to be honest about things I don't get. I've heard MILF used in non-porn contexts, and it's obviously crude but not usually intended to be insulting. That said, I see what you mean about the subtext - thanks.
I'm with Nick. Milf has crossed over from porn to just mid-level crude. Cruder than 'totty'. Less crude than 'crack'. (Both of which feel curiously dated now).
The fact that no-one (other than me, seemingly) seems concerned at the way porn terms - and the attitudes underlying them - are crossing into common usage is in itself a problem. IMO.
A lot of us, I think, would not recognise a porn term if we saw it, Ms Cyclefree. The number of perverts here is more limited that you might think.
That's the point, though, isn't it? We don't recognise where it comes from. Some see it as as using banter if a bit crude. Others do recognise it and dislike it.
In the meanwhile the pornification of our language continues. What we say about people reveals what we think about them. That applies to women just as much as it does to black people. Or any other group.
As I wrote last week-
"We might also want to consider whether the pornification of much of our media and the normalisation of porn are a good thing. The view that it gives of women is not one calculated to induce respect or indeed a realistic view of sexual relations or female sexuality. Not an easy topic. No-one wants a Mary Whitehouse-style Puritanism. But attitudes and behaviour are formed by many factors. If we really want to change the former we need to address why people have the views they do."
Judging by the stories in today's Times about what has been going on in some of our more prestigious public schools we urgently need to address the question of why people - let's be blunt - many (not all) young men have the attitudes towards women they do.
Here is the difficulty with all of this. Restrictions on expression (which was widespread until quite recently) entail constant and unremitting attack from liberals, lawyers, free speechers and left leaners (see for example John Mortimer from the old days passim.) .
Unrestricted and unlimited expression is, effectively, what we have, (about and for +18s) and its consequences entail constant and unremitting attack from some of the same people + lots of others.
(Incidentally the under 18/16 bar leads to the absurdity that in law it is illegal for two 15 year olds to have a snog - a splendid effort to abolish human nature.)
Nearly every thinking person wants a middle ground, and so far as I can see such middle ground would only be available on the impossible condition that people freely agree to self limitation. For commercial reasons, as well as human nature reasons, that is not going to happen, any more than we are freely going to stop getting drunk or being a slob.
That is why this is a difficult issue and there are no easy answers.
But some level of self-control (or self-limitation, as you put it) is surely a key element in what it means to be an adult.
Just because we can do something does not mean that we should. And using our judgment about when and whether we should do something is surely what we should be teaching our young and doing ourselves.
Or trying to, anyway.
I agree with the intention of what you say, but unfortunately the evidence points a different way about outcomes. The available outcomes are pretty restrictive and pretty free for all. I am of an age to have lived through both. I like and dislike elements of both.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Fallen from the highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
To highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
Not sure the point you are making. By the stats you link, Czechia, Belgium, Slovenia and Montenegro all have higher death rates per capita, and there are a bunch of other countries clustered around the UK number.
The situation in the UK was very bad, no one challenges that. But it is improving faster than most of Europe. So what is your point?
Is this a clever way for the SNP to get the findings of the report thrown out, as it is now tainted?
@ Mr Divvie. Genuinely interested in your take on this.
I'm not sure that there was much more tainting to be done, the whole thing is an almighty mess. There should be a complete ban on members of committees tweeting, giving interviews and writing opinion pieces (and of course leaking decisions) on committee proceedings until the findings are published.
That would seem to be very sensible. Even if not an actual ban they should do that sort of thing as a matter of course.
Comedy Dave won't be tweeting "Two doses" much longer:
I think he'll adopt a "two doses at the trialed interval" argument which the UK can not win because we have applied scientific knowledge to stretch out the intervals to maximise the protection of the population. So keep an eye out for that spin Comedy Dave watchers.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Fallen from the highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
To highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
Under excess deaths (the vastly more accurate measure) we're 11th worst in Europe, which while bad, once adjusted for weight and the fact that we've (hopefully) seen our last wave isn't awful.
I don't think "per 100,000 people" is a great measure either, because it mostly just measures how old your country is. I'd go for "percentage increase in deaths", which is the FT's metric.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
You Boris cheerleaders have a peculiar view of the world. I hope your hero doesn't share this notion of one-upmanship.
If we had the same deaths per Capita as Gibralter we would be at almost 200K
Completely moronic post from Felix
When the much demanded pandemic public enquiry is agreed by the Government I expect the terms of reference to be focused entirely on vaccine provision.
Just skimming the numbers so thoughtfully linked by @Malmesbury
For Newham, with a 16+ population of 275,000, 75,000 first vaccinations so far. It's worth mentioning however Newham is a "young" area - of the aforementioned 275,000 16+, 219,000 are between 16 and 54 so the numbers over 55 as a proportion of the population below the national average.
That said, the vaccine take up among the 75+ age group is below 75% which is a concern albeit with small absolute numbers.
Perhaps he just got his decimal in the wrong place?
That's rather similar to the simple type of error that drove the 8% newspaper thing.
Though if using the incidence of CVST in younger women as the numerator, then the same population needs to be the denominator. How many women in this age range were immunised, then developed the Thrombocytopenia/CVST in the 2 weeks post immunisation?
In Europe we know the AZ programme was being used mainly for younger people and that medical and care staff are disproportionately female and between the ages of 20 and 50. The published cases seem to fit this profile as well, that's how my wife made the initial link.
That maybe so, though there have been previous episodes of a rare connection between vaccination ant ITP, which seems linked to the CVST in these cases:
Though usually ITP is triggered by virus. Indeed it is a well recognised feature of covid.
I would be more interested in knowing the covid status of these cases, as we know that infection seems more common in the first week post vaccination.
This may be a statistical fluke, or that they caught covid before the vaccine worked, or a rare but genuine side effect, but it certainly merits investigation.
Clearly it merits investigation. What seems plain bonkers to me, is halting the vaccine roll out whilst the investigation is undertaken and data analysed.
For bonkers you could say criminal manslaughter. Makes you think of the French Socialists jailed for a similar thing?
Tbh you could say the same for some of ours in the earlier stages.
Only stupid racist scum that's unaware of their own privilege and bias, and with no understanding of dialectics and power/knowledge interaction dynamics, would log on this site and attack small countries like DPRK that are resisting western imperialism
If not a parody, then a wonderful example of some people thinking resisting 'imperialism' trumps all else.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Fallen from the highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
To highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
Under excess deaths (the vastly more accurate measure) we're 11th worst in Europe, which while bad, once adjusted for weight and the fact that we've (hopefully) seen our last wave isn't awful.
I don't think "per 100,000 people" is a great measure either, because it mostly just measures how old your country is. I'd go for "percentage increase in deaths", which is the FT's metric.
Good point, that does seem to be a better measure, do you have a link to their latest publication on it?
The German health ministry's latest communication about AZ is unbelievable. The video starts with a "warning notice about AstraZeneca" and says that the EMA has determined that using AZ "outweighs the risks" before showing a scary graphic of the brain and talking about clots.
What on Earth are they playing at? It’s as if they’re going through the motions of telling everyone it’s safe, while simultaneously nudging everyone to think it’s dangerous.
What they are playing at is putting the shoring-up of the EU ahead of the pandemic response.
The EU is terrified that the UK, having just left, will soon, as with images from Israel, revert to a sort-of normal existence which will contrast significantly with other European nations. Their response is to downplay this effect wherever possible, and the EU has latched on to the idea of rubbishing the Oxford AZN vaccine in order to produce the narrative that UK citizens are not really vaccinated. Not really.
Their fear, of course, is that the other EU nations who already have eurosceptic populations will have this amplified, thus threatening the existence of (or at least weakening further) the whole project.
Stopping Germans from taking the AZ vaccine will have the opposite effect, though, because it lengthens the time between the UK and Germany returning to normal.
Comedy Dave won't be tweeting "Two doses" much longer:
I think he'll adopt a "two doses at the trialed interval" argument which the UK can not win because we have applied scientific knowledge to stretch out the intervals to maximise the protection of the population. So keep an eye out for that spin Comedy Dave watchers.
It will be "at the approved interval" as that is a much more loaded description
Perhaps the judgment as to whether "Mum I'd Love to Fuck" is offensive should be left to mothers ?
It's LIKE not LOVE. The implied ambivalence is crucial.
Please review all of Stifler's dialogue in American Pie.
Worth noting that that MILF has now entered the language as a term in its own right. Also that other similar pornification of language occurs, even in the hallowed place of PB, such as discussion of Step-Mums* on Pornhub.
*Step Incest fantasy does seem to be a popular genre which strikes me as very odd.
Incest has become a very popular variant of porn, probably due to A Game of Thrones and Frozen.
“Frozen” promotes incest! Screams the Puritanical morning edition of PB.
I kid you not. There's a very vocal online community which is convinced that Elsa and Anna are sexual partners, and that this is the subtext of the films.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
You Boris cheerleaders have a peculiar view of the world. I hope your hero doesn't share this notion of one-upmanship.
If we had the same deaths per Capita as Gibralter we would be at almost 200K
Completely moronic post from Felix
FWIW I don't think you can draw inferences from inflated death rates in microstates. Gibraltar has a population of less than 35,000 - the difference between what, on a larger scale, would be considered a slight, a middling or a quite extreme per capita death toll is therefore very small.
Shrunk down to the scale of Gibraltar, 45 dead would match the EU average, 89 dead would be double the EU average (and represent the worst per capita rate in the whole world) and 22 dead would be half the EU average and significantly better than Germany. Luck probably plays a large part in jurisdictions as tiny as this.
The German health ministry's latest communication about AZ is unbelievable. The video starts with a "warning notice about AstraZeneca" and says that the EMA has determined that using AZ "outweighs the risks" before showing a scary graphic of the brain and talking about clots.
What on Earth are they playing at? It’s as if they’re going through the motions of telling everyone it’s safe, while simultaneously nudging everyone to think it’s dangerous.
What they are playing at is putting the shoring-up of the EU ahead of the pandemic response.
The EU is terrified that the UK, having just left, will soon, as with images from Israel, revert to a sort-of normal existence which will contrast significantly with other European nations. Their response is to downplay this effect wherever possible, and the EU has latched on to the idea of rubbishing the Oxford AZN vaccine in order to produce the narrative that UK citizens are not really vaccinated. Not really.
Their fear, of course, is that the other EU nations who already have eurosceptic populations will have this amplified, thus threatening the existence of (or at least weakening further) the whole project.
Stopping Germans from taking the AZ vaccine will have the opposite effect, though, because it lengthens the time between the UK and Germany returning to normal.
And yet that looks like the strategy to blame shift.
Mr. Eagles, you drunken baboon. The city of Carthage showed surprising valour and competence when it was besieged in the Third Punic War, in stark contrast to earlier contests that may have yielded different results had it not been for the antics of the Peace Party of Hanno.
So competent that they were wiped off the face of the earth.
Carthage merely turned into modern-day Tunis. After all, no one speaks Latin any more (except for Vatican City... and pretentious people...).
The Northern Independence Party is quite a bit more expansionist than I thought. Supposedly it is based on a 1405 agreement with a Percy, though why that is the endpoint for national identity who knows.
The Northern Independence Party is quite a bit more expansionist than I thought. Supposedly it is based on a 1405 agreement, though why that is the endpoint for national identity who knows.
Perhaps the judgment as to whether "Mum I'd Love to Fuck" is offensive should be left to mothers ?
It's LIKE not LOVE. The implied ambivalence is crucial.
Please review all of Stifler's dialogue in American Pie.
Worth noting that that MILF has now entered the language as a term in its own right. Also that other similar pornification of language occurs, even in the hallowed place of PB, such as discussion of Step-Mums* on Pornhub.
*Step Incest fantasy does seem to be a popular genre which strikes me as very odd.
Incest has become a very popular variant of porn, probably due to A Game of Thrones and Frozen.
“Frozen” promotes incest! Screams the Puritanical morning edition of PB.
I kid you not. There's a very vocal online community which is convinced that Elsa and Anna are sexual partners, and that this is the subtext of the films.
People by the sound of it, with far too much time on their hands.
The German health ministry's latest communication about AZ is unbelievable. The video starts with a "warning notice about AstraZeneca" and says that the EMA has determined that using AZ "outweighs the risks" before showing a scary graphic of the brain and talking about clots.
What on Earth are they playing at? It’s as if they’re going through the motions of telling everyone it’s safe, while simultaneously nudging everyone to think it’s dangerous.
What they are playing at is putting the shoring-up of the EU ahead of the pandemic response.
The EU is terrified that the UK, having just left, will soon, as with images from Israel, revert to a sort-of normal existence which will contrast significantly with other European nations. Their response is to downplay this effect wherever possible, and the EU has latched on to the idea of rubbishing the Oxford AZN vaccine in order to produce the narrative that UK citizens are not really vaccinated. Not really.
Their fear, of course, is that the other EU nations who already have eurosceptic populations will have this amplified, thus threatening the existence of (or at least weakening further) the whole project.
Stopping Germans from taking the AZ vaccine will have the opposite effect, though, because it lengthens the time between the UK and Germany returning to normal.
And yet that looks like the strategy to blame shift.
I'm not taking anything for granted because I'm in not believing anything good will happen before it actually does mode; HOWEVER... if this does all end with the UK coming out the other side of this catastrophe 3, 4 or 6 months ahead of most of the rest of Europe, then you can see the next ploy coming a mile off: blame the Evil Brits for cheating and stealing. Creating the illusion of being bookended in the West as well as the East by a malign foreign power suits the EU narrative just fine: circle the wagons.
The Northern Independence Party is quite a bit more expansionist than I thought. Supposedly it is based on a 1405 agreement, though why that is the endpoint for national identity who knows.
The German health ministry's latest communication about AZ is unbelievable. The video starts with a "warning notice about AstraZeneca" and says that the EMA has determined that using AZ "outweighs the risks" before showing a scary graphic of the brain and talking about clots.
What on Earth are they playing at? It’s as if they’re going through the motions of telling everyone it’s safe, while simultaneously nudging everyone to think it’s dangerous.
What they are playing at is putting the shoring-up of the EU ahead of the pandemic response.
The EU is terrified that the UK, having just left, will soon, as with images from Israel, revert to a sort-of normal existence which will contrast significantly with other European nations. Their response is to downplay this effect wherever possible, and the EU has latched on to the idea of rubbishing the Oxford AZN vaccine in order to produce the narrative that UK citizens are not really vaccinated. Not really.
Their fear, of course, is that the other EU nations who already have eurosceptic populations will have this amplified, thus threatening the existence of (or at least weakening further) the whole project.
Stopping Germans from taking the AZ vaccine will have the opposite effect, though, because it lengthens the time between the UK and Germany returning to normal.
And yet that looks like the strategy to blame shift.
I'm not taking anything for granted because I'm in not believing anything good will happen before it actually does mode; HOWEVER... if this does all end with the UK coming out the other side of this catastrophe 3, 4 or 6 months ahead of most of the rest of Europe, then you can see the next ploy coming a mile off: blame the Evil Brits for cheating and stealing. Creating the illusion of being bookended in the West as well as the East by a malign foreign power suits the EU narrative just fine: circle the wagons.
Yes, brexit Britain has definitely become the target of the EU's two minutes hate. It's quite the role reversal.
"Men share the pain over Sarah Everard’s death We need to remind ourselves that this killing was a single act of brutality, not a dark parable about male attitudes. Matthew Parris"
Mr. Eagles, you drunken baboon. The city of Carthage showed surprising valour and competence when it was besieged in the Third Punic War, in stark contrast to earlier contests that may have yielded different results had it not been for the antics of the Peace Party of Hanno.
So competent that they were wiped off the face of the earth.
Carthage merely turned into modern-day Tunis. After all, no one speaks Latin any more (except for Vatican City... and pretentious people...).
It's always puzzled me that Latin vanished. It must have been quite a thing to have been able to travel around the Roman Empire and converse in a common tongue. Obviously there were lots of other languages at the time too. Just weird that all that convenience was discarded by everyone.
The question which effortlessly raises itself 'Is it true that in virtue of something this is a vase and not a glass, and if so what?" should keep philosophers in work for a bit.
The Northern Independence Party is quite a bit more expansionist than I thought. Supposedly it is based on a 1405 agreement, though why that is the endpoint for national identity who knows.
I presume this is quite a clever unionist psych-op.
It looks roughly like the Tripartite Indenture, although I don’t think without checking that it extended into East Anglia.
The deal was Owain ap Gruffudd would rule Wales, Henry Percy would rule the north and Edmund Mortimer (who just happened to be Owain’s son in law and brother to Percy’s daughter in law) would rule the south.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Well done them. They still had to get the arms jabbed.
May not count as UK exports, but it's a win anyway.
To clarify, I meant a win against the virus.
But doesn't Gibraltar depend heavily on workers living in Spain? Will the Gibraltar population being vaccinated enable the economy to get going again? Necessary, sure, but is it sufficient?
Mr. Eagles, you drunken baboon. The city of Carthage showed surprising valour and competence when it was besieged in the Third Punic War, in stark contrast to earlier contests that may have yielded different results had it not been for the antics of the Peace Party of Hanno.
So competent that they were wiped off the face of the earth.
Carthage merely turned into modern-day Tunis. After all, no one speaks Latin any more (except for Vatican City... and pretentious people...).
It's always puzzled me that Latin vanished. It must have been quite a thing to have been able to travel around the Roman Empire and converse in a common tongue. Obviously there were lots of other languages at the time too. Just weird that all that convenience was discarded by everyone.
As I understand it, Latin didn't perish so much as evolve and blend into its surroundings, after the Roman political entity disintegrated. It's where all the Romance family of languages came from.
It's impressive mental gymnastics to rail against the companies for exporting to other places rather than the EU in line with contractual obligations, and simultaneously claim credit for 'the EU' exporting what has been produced.
We're in a relatively good position wrt our own programme and vaccine production, the issue with the EU blocking Pfizer is that we provide a huge part of the manufacturing supply chain for it that seems to have gone completely unrecognised by the EU and around 13m people are due second Pfizer doses over the next 12 weeks and it would be completely unethical by the EU to block exports to the UK.
This total lie is still online in an official newsletter from the President of the European Council:
The United Kingdom and the United States have imposed an outright ban on the export of vaccines or vaccine components produced on their territory.
Yes, it's genuinely a complete falsehood. The UK exports lipid nanoparticles and the US exports very crucial bioreactor components, both are necessary for the Pfizer process.
Frau Dr van der Leyen seems to be going out of her way to make life difficult for ReJoiners, like me.
Wrong European President. This moron is Charles Michel.
Relax. UVDL has been lying like Machiavelli's failed apprentice.
The Northern Independence Party is quite a bit more expansionist than I thought. Supposedly it is based on a 1405 agreement, though why that is the endpoint for national identity who knows.
I presume this is quite a clever unionist psych-op.
It looks roughly like the Tripartite Indenture, although I don’t think without checking that it extended into East Anglia.
The deal was Owain ap Gruffudd would rule Wales, Henry Percy would rule the north and Edmund Mortimer (who just happened to be Owain’s son in law and brother to Percy’s daughter in law) would rule the south.
"RTVE Spain: Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada. ▪ Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses. Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_ desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Well done them. They still had to get the arms jabbed.
May not count as UK exports, but it's a win anyway.
To clarify, I meant a win against the virus.
But doesn't Gibraltar depend heavily on workers living in Spain? Will the Gibraltar population being vaccinated enable the economy to get going again? Necessary, sure, but is it sufficient?
Apparently they've begun vaccinating thousands of Spanish workers, which means we must have provided enough for that purpose, which is sensible.
The Northern Independence Party is quite a bit more expansionist than I thought. Supposedly it is based on a 1405 agreement, though why that is the endpoint for national identity who knows.
I presume this is quite a clever unionist psych-op.
It looks roughly like the Tripartite Indenture, although I don’t think without checking that it extended into East Anglia.
The deal was Owain ap Gruffudd would rule Wales, Henry Percy would rule the north and Edmund Mortimer (who just happened to be Owain’s son in law and brother to Percy’s daughter in law) would rule the south.
On a check, the lands to be given to Percy did include Norfolk, but not Cumberland. Interestingly, not Durham either, presumably because it would remain under the control of its bishops.
Would be interested to see the figure for Ireland, particularly given many seem to be slipping across the border to get vaccinated there if they can.
Edited because on reflection my language was unfairly slanted.
I would be interested to know the actual number of people who from the ROI are being vaccinated in the North.
I gather ROI Covid-19 precautions include no-one travelling more than 5km from home. So it will be people within 5km of the border.
I was pleased to read that NI are doing this, but absolutely take on board the feelings of mainland UK people who are still waiting to be jabbed.
However if it is only the very close ROI people who are getting the vaccines, that does seem to me a good reason. It would be akin to vaccinating Hampshire but not the near neighbours in Wiltshire.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Hello Anne.
I would imagine that the likelihood of everyone in the RoI sticking to the 5km rule, especially if the prize for sacking it off is vaccination months ahead of schedule, is zero. As to how many of them are actually doing it, who can say? I can't readily find a figure for the percentage of the RoI population thought to have an NHS number.
Related:
Approximately 150k within 5km of the border. Which is 3%.
The Northern Independence Party is quite a bit more expansionist than I thought. Supposedly it is based on a 1405 agreement, though why that is the endpoint for national identity who knows.
I presume this is quite a clever unionist psych-op.
It looks roughly like the Tripartite Indenture, although I don’t think without checking that it extended into East Anglia.
The deal was Owain ap Gruffudd would rule Wales, Henry Percy would rule the north and Edmund Mortimer (who just happened to be Owain’s son in law and brother to Percy’s daughter in law) would rule the south.
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But some level of self-control (or self-limitation, as you put it) is surely a key element in what it means to be an adult.
Just because we can do something does not mean that we should. And using our judgment about when and whether we should do something is surely what we should be teaching our young and doing ourselves.
Or trying to, anyway.
Thankfully we have David Davis, Andrew Neil and Fraser Nelson on the case. The story isn’t going away in the UK Parliament nor the press.
I would imagine that the likelihood of everyone in the RoI sticking to the 5km rule, especially if the prize for sacking it off is vaccination months ahead of schedule, is zero. As to how many of them are actually doing it, who can say? I can't readily find a figure for the percentage of the RoI population thought to have an NHS number.
I assumed she'd already habe diplomatic immunity
Legal != Moral && Legal != Sensible
The third umpire is going to piss me off once more isn't he?
The EU is terrified that the UK, having just left, will soon, as with images from Israel, revert to a sort-of normal existence which will contrast significantly with other European nations. Their response is to downplay this effect wherever possible, and the EU has latched on to the idea of rubbishing the Oxford AZN vaccine in order to produce the narrative that UK citizens are not really vaccinated. Not really.
Their fear, of course, is that the other EU nations who already have eurosceptic populations will have this amplified, thus threatening the existence of (or at least weakening further) the whole project.
I also get the impression that some just don’t like very left leaning figures, and don’t think they have a place in the political debate.
And even then, only maybe.
@ Mr Divvie. Genuinely interested in your take on this.
"RTVE Spain:
Gibraltar becomes the first territory in the world to vaccinate all of its adult population - thanks to the UK! Cases have fallen 98% in the barely 2 months!
Gibraltar se convierte en el primer territorio del mundo con toda su población adulta vacunada.
▪
Los casos activos se han reducido en un 98% en apenas dos meses.
Lo cuenta @manuelroldan_
desde @RTVEAndalucia"
Anti-lockdown demonstrations are under way in central London, as MPs urge the government to change the law to allow peaceful protest.
Hundreds of people marched from Hyde Park to Westminster, with some detained by police.
Earlier, more than 60 MPs and peers wrote to the home secretary calling for laws to be changed.
The Home Office said it was still illegal for people to attend protests under the current coronavirus rules.
May not count as UK exports, but it's a win anyway.
He's never ever hit a fifty in this format and his bowling is rubbish in this format, I mean he'll never top his performance in the t20 world cup final of 2016.
Bring back Root and his bowling is good as well.
To highest death rate per Capita in the entire Universe
Well done Boris
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://twitter.com/Cox_A_R/status/1373280890839781378?s=20
https://twitter.com/tara_mulholland/status/1373288863540469760
And if Carthage were wiped off the earth, which exarchate do you imagine supplied Heraclius to rescue the empire from Flavius Phocas?
I mean Japan had a pretty good end to 1941 and start to 1942 in WWII.
The replies to the original tweet in the post to which you replied are a case in point, with wrong assertions and partisan points being made from all sides.
Cui bono? The Tories, Scottish and English, will probably take spreading enough muck if they can't get a killer blow, the SNP are ironically in the same position. The real loser in the long run is Holyrood which won't break Westminster hearts.
https://twitter.com/lukejones03/status/1373208744654475265
The situation in the UK was very bad, no one challenges that. But it is improving faster than most of Europe. So what is your point?
Completely moronic post from Felix
Under excess deaths (the vastly more accurate measure) we're 11th worst in Europe, which while bad, once adjusted for weight and the fact that we've (hopefully) seen our last wave isn't awful.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
A similar point likely holds for Gibralter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bayesianmarxist/status/1372484465113632770
Just skimming the numbers so thoughtfully linked by @Malmesbury
For Newham, with a 16+ population of 275,000, 75,000 first vaccinations so far. It's worth mentioning however Newham is a "young" area - of the aforementioned 275,000 16+, 219,000 are between 16 and 54 so the numbers over 55 as a proportion of the population below the national average.
That said, the vaccine take up among the 75+ age group is below 75% which is a concern albeit with small absolute numbers.
Unless there is proof of cynicism / recklessness.
Only stupid racist scum that's unaware of their own privilege and bias, and with no understanding of dialectics and power/knowledge interaction dynamics, would log on this site and attack small countries like DPRK that are resisting western imperialism
If not a parody, then a wonderful example of some people thinking resisting 'imperialism' trumps all else.
Shrunk down to the scale of Gibraltar, 45 dead would match the EU average, 89 dead would be double the EU average (and represent the worst per capita rate in the whole world) and 22 dead would be half the EU average and significantly better than Germany. Luck probably plays a large part in jurisdictions as tiny as this.
https://twitter.com/FreeNorthNow/status/1319353669633138693/photo/1
We need to remind ourselves that this killing was a single act of brutality, not a dark parable about male attitudes.
Matthew Parris"
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/men-share-the-pain-over-everards-death-qfwmgn8w6
The deal was Owain ap Gruffudd would rule Wales, Henry Percy would rule the north and Edmund Mortimer (who just happened to be Owain’s son in law and brother to Percy’s daughter in law) would rule the south.
But doesn't Gibraltar depend heavily on workers living in Spain? Will the Gibraltar population being vaccinated enable the economy to get going again? Necessary, sure, but is it sufficient?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripartite_Indenture
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/03/18/gibraltar-vaccine-coronavirus/
Approximately 150k within 5km of the border. Which is 3%.
Assuming uniform population distribution.