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  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468
    The 'rule of 6' is also back with a vengeance in the North East as far as I could tell today, regardless of the law.
  • The FR/DE/EU vaccination policy/strategy must be the biggest public policy failure in god knows how many years.

    Not a single head has rolled as far as I know.
    https://twitter.com/jeanmackenzie/status/1364838822379454464?s=20
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,083
    edited February 2021
    Over 40s might start getting jabbed in March....

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1366143674631995397?s=20
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,706
    Trump's hair seems more insane than ever.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126

    The FR/DE/EU vaccination policy/strategy must be the biggest public policy failure in god knows how many years.

    Not a single head has rolled as far as I know.
    Because they don't actually think it was a failure, despite some lukewarm comments. Although some did, at some point, take up the option of going outside the common programme, the overall assessment will likely be that if they had all done that from the start some places would be even further ahead, and others even further behind, that is presently the case. So on a solidarity level a D- for all is better than some getting As and some getting Fs.
  • The FR/DE/EU vaccination policy/strategy must be the biggest public policy failure in god knows how many years.

    Not a single head has rolled as far as I know.
    https://twitter.com/jeanmackenzie/status/1364838822379454464?s=20
    Madness. Or maybe the Brits are the ones who are mad. Taking a vaccine only just out of clinical trial when we could opt to be locked down for another six to twelve months whilst some other shmuk country tries it first?
  • Recycled and cliched catchphrases, disjointed ideas, fluency but no discernible train of thought, delivered by a being who is of debatable sentience.

    GPT3 or Trump at CPAC?

    --AS
  • kle4 said:

    The FR/DE/EU vaccination policy/strategy must be the biggest public policy failure in god knows how many years.

    Not a single head has rolled as far as I know.
    Because they don't actually think it was a failure, despite some lukewarm comments. Although some did, at some point, take up the option of going outside the common programme, the overall assessment will likely be that if they had all done that from the start some places would be even further ahead, and others even further behind, that is presently the case. So on a solidarity level a D- for all is better than some getting As and some getting Fs.
    Which is ridiculous because its entirely untrue.

    Completely untrue.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    The FR/DE/EU vaccination policy/strategy must be the biggest public policy failure in god knows how many years.

    Not a single head has rolled as far as I know.
    And meanwhile, "Prague eyes Sputnik rollout," apparently. It's not a total surprise. They've seen Hungary break with the common approach and get results (and meanwhile, non-EU Serbia, which played nice with President Xi, now has the second highest vaccination rate in Europe after Britain.)

    The EU isn't having a terribly good Covid War.
  • TomsToms Posts: 2,478

    Recycled and cliched catchphrases, disjointed ideas, fluency but no discernible train of thought, delivered by a being who is of debatable sentience.

    GPT3 or Trump at CPAC?

    --AS

    Yep. Oh my God.

    https://thehill.com/video/in-the-news/540899-watch-live-trump-speaks-at-cpac-2021-final-day
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,126
    edited February 2021

    kle4 said:

    The FR/DE/EU vaccination policy/strategy must be the biggest public policy failure in god knows how many years.

    Not a single head has rolled as far as I know.
    Because they don't actually think it was a failure, despite some lukewarm comments. Although some did, at some point, take up the option of going outside the common programme, the overall assessment will likely be that if they had all done that from the start some places would be even further ahead, and others even further behind, that is presently the case. So on a solidarity level a D- for all is better than some getting As and some getting Fs.
    Which is ridiculous because its entirely untrue.

    Completely untrue.
    Things being completely untrue doesn't stop people believing it or policy being set because of it. That they've brought up the prospect of all out bidding wars between member states well into the crisis of the centralised response indicates they think it is a winning argument among the people who matter. It's not like anyone is going anywhere as a result - even those who admit a problem with the response see more integration as the answer.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,706

    Trump's hair seems more insane than ever.

    Sorry, I mean Trump seems more insane than ever.

  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    Over 40s might start getting jabbed in March....

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1366143674631995397?s=20

    It would be nice to think so but I doubt it'll be that quick. The invite letters for the 60-63 year olds are only being issued from tomorrow.

    If they do extremely well then they might get as far as offering appointments to all the over 50s by Easter, but I think getting right down into the fortysomethings is probably a bit too much to ask.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    edited February 2021
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    The FR/DE/EU vaccination policy/strategy must be the biggest public policy failure in god knows how many years.

    Not a single head has rolled as far as I know.
    Because they don't actually think it was a failure, despite some lukewarm comments. Although some did, at some point, take up the option of going outside the common programme, the overall assessment will likely be that if they had all done that from the start some places would be even further ahead, and others even further behind, that is presently the case. So on a solidarity level a D- for all is better than some getting As and some getting Fs.
    Which is ridiculous because its entirely untrue.

    Completely untrue.
    Things being completely untrue doesn't stop people believing it or policy being set because of it. That they've brought up the prospect of all out bidding wars between member states well into the crisis of the centralised response indicates they think it is a winning argument among the people who matter. It's not like anyone is going anywhere as a result - even those who admit a problem with the response see more integration as the answer.
    But "bidding wars" would result in increased supply.

    It was the failure to invest that prevented manufacturing getting started sooner.
  • Trump's hair seems more insane than ever.

    Sorry, I mean Trump seems more insane than ever.

    He is a very dangerous and divisive person and this speech is just playing on division in the most disgusting manner
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,204
    Trump sounds like he's going to run again in 2024.
  • Pulpstar said:

    Trump sounds like he's going to run again in 2024.

    Sounding like it
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,693
    Pulpstar said:

    Trump sounds like he's going to run again in 2024.

    Or 'beat them for a third time', as he put it.
  • Over 40s might start getting jabbed in March....

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1366143674631995397?s=20

    It would be nice to think so but I doubt it'll be that quick. The invite letters for the 60-63 year olds are only being issued from tomorrow.

    If they do extremely well then they might get as far as offering appointments to all the over 50s by Easter, but I think getting right down into the fortysomethings is probably a bit too much to ask.
    If G7 60-63 are starting from tomorrow then they're through the hump already because G6 <65 with conditions was the massive group to get through.

    Entirely possible to see Over 40s being started in March at that rate then. ~10 days each for 60-63, 55-59 and 50-54 puts Over 40s [only just] starting in March.
  • Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Are you very concerned that a computer could fill books with unoriginal banality, perhaps even better than a human does?

    --AS
  • Indeed I fully expect some 40 years olds will be vaccinated in March precisely because the over 65s and massive vulnerable group have it seems been pretty been gone through in a fortnight, but the reality is they were well underway already be mid February. So given that there seems to be little reason not to get through the rest of the Over 50s and into the Over 40s in March.
  • Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Are you very concerned that a computer could fill books with unoriginal banality, perhaps even better than a human does?

    --AS
    I think he's worried an AI might be able to do better 'bad sex' writing than an author.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976

    Trump's hair seems more insane than ever.

    Sorry, I mean Trump seems more insane than ever.

    He is a very dangerous and divisive person and this speech is just playing on division in the most disgusting manner
    Sounds like you'd prefer him to go forth and multiply, instead.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,587
    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    Watch this. Tom Scott's latest video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfVYxnhuEdU
  • Endillion said:

    Trump's hair seems more insane than ever.

    Sorry, I mean Trump seems more insane than ever.

    He is a very dangerous and divisive person and this speech is just playing on division in the most disgusting manner
    Sounds like you'd prefer him to go forth and multiply, instead.
    I would prefer he left public life full stop
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,602
    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
  • EndillionEndillion Posts: 4,976

    Endillion said:

    Trump's hair seems more insane than ever.

    Sorry, I mean Trump seems more insane than ever.

    He is a very dangerous and divisive person and this speech is just playing on division in the most disgusting manner
    Sounds like you'd prefer him to go forth and multiply, instead.
    I would prefer he left public life full stop
    Ah, no, see, that's subtraction.

    (Second bad arithmetic joke in quick succession indicator here.)
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,673
    edited February 2021

    Over 40s might start getting jabbed in March....

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1366143674631995397?s=20

    It would be nice to think so but I doubt it'll be that quick. The invite letters for the 60-63 year olds are only being issued from tomorrow.

    If they do extremely well then they might get as far as offering appointments to all the over 50s by Easter, but I think getting right down into the fortysomethings is probably a bit too much to ask.
    No need to wait for the letters if you are in cohort 7 (60-65)

    I went on the NHS vaccination site on Friday morning and booked myself (60) and Mrs P (63) in for our 1st jabs at 9:30 tomorrow morning. We had a choice of local(ish) centres. NEither of us has qualifiying 'at risk' health conditions.

    The site itself now says: "It's being given to: people aged 60 and over..."

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination

    Edit: I'd be very surprised if we're not into the 40-50 age group before the end of March. There are only 7m in the 50-65 age range, which is < 3 weeks worth of vaccinating. The number of 2nd doses required only ramps up in April. (Mrs P and I have already got a 17 May date for our 2nd doses.)
  • Pulpstar said:

    Trump sounds like he's going to run again in 2024.

    As I posted the other day only severe ill health will stop him running again.

    America and the rest of us is a long way from being out of danger yet.
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,671
    edited February 2021


    If G7 60-63 are starting from tomorrow then they're through the hump already because G6 less than 65 with conditions was the massive group to get through.

    Entirely possible to see Over 40s being started in March at that rate then. ~10 days each for 60-63, 55-59 and 50-54 puts Over 40s [only just] starting in March.

    Depends where you are I think. I'm being done as G6 as a carer for two other households but not until next weekend. Up here in the Flatlands take up has been pretty good so there's been no skipping.

    Matt Hancock did promise some 'bumper weeks' in March though.

    [PS Had to remove the less than symbol from the quote as vanilla didn't seem to like it]
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,204

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Are you very concerned that a computer could fill books with unoriginal banality, perhaps even better than a human does?

    --AS
    Whatever doesn't grill you makes you longer. And if you can hold an egg and boil it with four minutes worth of warmth given you will be a pan my son.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,823

    kle4 said:

    Guardian has decided Dishy Rishi budget is a disaster...I obviously missed his announcement today, funny day, Sunday to do it.

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1366129945756467201?s=20

    Curious line in there.

    It is progressive to raise taxes on the wealthy or on excess business profits because it makes for a fairer society. But it is not progressive to do so to 'balance the books'.


    I don't quite follow this. If the same policy is enacted is the motivation hugely significant? I suppose means any windfall would not be adequately targeted in that scenario?
    Its completely illiterate nonsense from the Grauniad.

    I disagree with the idea of taxes now because I think that we're still in the recession, wait a year or two then do it if needed. But to 'balance the books' is progressive - running a deficit is burdening the young and future generations with the obligations of the present.
    If our lot do it, it's progressive. If the other lot do it, it isn't.

    The Guardian is only a small step away from the no true Scotsman fallacy here.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,204

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump sounds like he's going to run again in 2024.

    As I posted the other day only severe ill health will stop him running again.

    America and the rest of us is a long way from being out of danger yet.
    There'll be lots of ill health in his future of one kind or another. So say my cards.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,236
    DougSeal said:

    I am sure the UK will happily have them....

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1366137332697595913?s=20

    In all seriousness we don’t really need them, we have an AZN supplier onshore, and they should be sent to countries that do.
    At least there is a slow trend of a few more EU-27 countries introducing longer dosage intervals.
  • kinabalu said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Trump sounds like he's going to run again in 2024.

    As I posted the other day only severe ill health will stop him running again.

    America and the rest of us is a long way from being out of danger yet.
    There'll be lots of ill health in his future of one kind or another. So say my cards.
    Is that a GPT_3 output reading?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,236
    Cookie said:

    kle4 said:

    Guardian has decided Dishy Rishi budget is a disaster...I obviously missed his announcement today, funny day, Sunday to do it.

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1366129945756467201?s=20

    Curious line in there.

    It is progressive to raise taxes on the wealthy or on excess business profits because it makes for a fairer society. But it is not progressive to do so to 'balance the books'.


    I don't quite follow this. If the same policy is enacted is the motivation hugely significant? I suppose means any windfall would not be adequately targeted in that scenario?
    Its completely illiterate nonsense from the Grauniad.

    I disagree with the idea of taxes now because I think that we're still in the recession, wait a year or two then do it if needed. But to 'balance the books' is progressive - running a deficit is burdening the young and future generations with the obligations of the present.
    If our lot do it, it's progressive. If the other lot do it, it isn't.

    The Guardian is only a small step away from the no true Scotsman fallacy here.
    That's rather polite of you.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,706
    The classic energy-dependency-to-women's-sports segue
  • FlatlanderFlatlander Posts: 4,671
    edited February 2021
    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    More and more input to these models will be output from previous versions now posted on the internet. Where does that end up?


    Anyway, wasn't GPT2 pulled because it picked up all the bad stuff from the internet as well as the good stuff? Might be amusing to ask it about a few conspiracy theories.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    Watch this. Tom Scott's latest video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfVYxnhuEdU
    Yes, it’s amazing. Someone linked it earlier. Mind blowing stuff

  • Would vote for the Liberal Party but it only really stands candidates in Liverpool. Lib Dems are not liberals in any sense of the word.
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    Here's a book you can buy on Amazon: "The Art of Divination: The Role of Consciousness and Will in Stepping Outside Time". Looks like it is rearranging very closely related concepts rather than having deep original thoughts. The perception of depth comes from our own interpretation, not any depth of thought on the part of the AI
  • TimTTimT Posts: 6,468
    edited February 2021
    TimT said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    Here's a book you can buy on Amazon: "The Art of Divination: The Role of Consciousness and Will in Stepping Outside Time". Looks like it is rearranging very closely related concepts rather than having deep original thoughts. The perception of depth comes from our own interpretation, not any depth of thought on the part of the AI
    For me the truly scary time will come when AI can evaluate these aphorisms itself for depth and originality.

    EDIT Or, alternatively, if human observers agree that all the AI's output is of equally profound and original quality, then I'll be worried. However, if it takes a human to select from AI's output to winnow out the crap in order to wow us, then I am not so wowed, nor worried.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527

    Endillion said:

    Trump's hair seems more insane than ever.

    Sorry, I mean Trump seems more insane than ever.

    He is a very dangerous and divisive person and this speech is just playing on division in the most disgusting manner
    Sounds like you'd prefer him to go forth and multiply, instead.
    I would prefer he left public life full stop
    Many happy returns by the way - or do you celebrate tomorrow? I recall you share my niece's birthday - 40 years apart!
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    TimT said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    Here's a book you can buy on Amazon: "The Art of Divination: The Role of Consciousness and Will in Stepping Outside Time". Looks like it is rearranging very closely related concepts rather than having deep original thoughts. The perception of depth comes from our own interpretation, not any depth of thought on the part of the AI
    That’s what you perceive. But as GPT3 says of itself, true AI will be so different to human intelligence, and so much greater, we might have some difficulty comprehending it, or even recognising it. I think it is intelligent now, to all intents and purposes

    Still, not to worry, there’s at least 5 more years before it writes a novel

    “But I, personally, think that we have at least another 5 or 10 years before the AI evolves enough that it's able to do a novel, or even a short story, on its own. So, I think, over the next 5 or 10 years, you're going to see a merging of human creativity enhanced by AI tools. And that's how I see GPT-3.“

    https://twitter.com/tomaustin56/status/1365726373332082693?s=21

    It’s already good at giving human novelists ideas

    ‘Paul: Yeah, that's one thing I found is that I really have no problem with writer's block anymore. If I got to a place where I'm not sure what's going to happen, I'll just hit the AI button. I might not agree with what direction it takes me in, but, sometimes, it has some really good ideas, like, ‘Oh, I didn't even think about that.'’
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Except.
    As a Buddhist, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is also a profoundly un Buddhist sentiment.
    The Internet is already awash with random deep sounding hippy shit quotes with Buddha after them. There is an entire scholarly site fake Buddha quotes devoted to it.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,598

    I am sure the UK will happily have them....

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1366137332697595913?s=20

    The UK will certainly be happy for Ireland to have them.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410
    edited February 2021
    justin124 said:

    Endillion said:

    Trump's hair seems more insane than ever.

    Sorry, I mean Trump seems more insane than ever.

    He is a very dangerous and divisive person and this speech is just playing on division in the most disgusting manner
    Sounds like you'd prefer him to go forth and multiply, instead.
    I would prefer he left public life full stop
    Many happy returns by the way - or do you celebrate tomorrow? I recall you share my niece's birthday - 40 years apart!
    Yeah. Happy un Birthday @Big_G_NorthWales. 18 and a quarter or summat I recall.
  • dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Except.
    As a Buddhist, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is also a profoundly un Buddhist sentiment.
    The Internet is already awash with random deep sounding hippy shit quotes with Buddha after them. There is an entire scholarly site fake Buddha quotes devoted to it.
    Precisely. There's a reason it's completely original - it is nonsense.

    In ancient philosophies "originality" is not to be expected.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Except.
    As a Buddhist, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is also a profoundly un Buddhist sentiment.
    The Internet is already awash with random deep sounding hippy shit quotes with Buddha after them. There is an entire scholarly site fake Buddha quotes devoted to it.
    Precisely. There's a reason it's completely original - it is nonsense.

    In ancient philosophies "originality" is not to be expected.
    What?! In Buddhism, the goal of the soul is to get ‘out’ of the endless cycle of reincarnation, and thus reach Nirvana. Nirvana literally means ‘blowing out’

    How do you get there? By looking in. By losing all desires for, and attachments to, external reality.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_(Buddhism)

    GPT3 has summarised Buddhist theology in one sentence
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    I am detecting some Normalcy Bias on PB tonight.

    Real AI has never happened before, so it cannot be happening now. It is also a very scary idea, so let’s not even think about it

    Reminiscent of PB in the early days of coronavirus, exactly one year ago
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127

    Over 40s might start getting jabbed in March....

    https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1366143674631995397?s=20

    It would be nice to think so but I doubt it'll be that quick. The invite letters for the 60-63 year olds are only being issued from tomorrow.

    If they do extremely well then they might get as far as offering appointments to all the over 50s by Easter, but I think getting right down into the fortysomethings is probably a bit too much to ask.
    I'm 34 and expecting to get a jab at some point in April. The combination of national roll out speed, several GPs pooling into a drive thru jab centre and large numbers of elderly in this area have all helped....
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,083
    edited February 2021
    Leon said:

    I am detecting some Normalcy Bias on PB tonight.

    Real AI has never happened before, so it cannot be happening now. It is also a very scary idea, so let’s not even think about it

    Reminiscent of PB in the early days of coronavirus, exactly one year ago

    Until I mentioned GPT3 earlier today, you had never heard of it...you were banging on about DeepFakes via GANs (which are hugely flawed).

    Some of us have been well aware of GPT all the way through from 1 to 3.
  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547
    edited February 2021
    Leon said:

    I am detecting some Normalcy Bias on PB tonight.

    Real AI has never happened before, so it cannot be happening now. It is also a very scary idea, so let’s not even think about it

    Reminiscent of PB in the early days of coronavirus, exactly one year ago

    The thing about AI, we hope, is that it will always have an off switch. Also, we will always choose to believe we are more creative, even when it’s no longer the case.

    Where creativity is concerned, man will therefore always be picked first. The AI is like the boy with glasses hoping to picked for the football team in break time at school; it doesn’t matter if he has the skills of Pele, he’s getting picked last.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    Leon said:

    I am detecting some Normalcy Bias on PB tonight.

    Real AI has never happened before, so it cannot be happening now. It is also a very scary idea, so let’s not even think about it

    Reminiscent of PB in the early days of coronavirus, exactly one year ago

    Until I mentioned GPT3 earlier today, you had never heard of it...you were banging on about DeepFakes via GANs (which are hugely flawed).

    Some of us have been well aware of GPT all the way through from 1 to 3.
    And thankyou! Now I am rapidly learning. This is a good article by an expert in the field.

    “This week, I received access to GPT-3, a landmark artificial intelligence technology from OpenAI. GPT-3’s utilitarian name belies its incredible potential — for good and bad. I’ve seen a lot of technologies, and I’ve done a lot with A.I. after working in the field for over a decade. I can say with no irony or hyperbole that GPT-3 is the most important technical object I’ve seen since the internet itself and certainly the most significant artificial intelligence technology created in this millennium. Testing it out, I feel a bit like Gorky descending into the “Kingdom of Shadows” — at a loss for words as I bear witness to something that is simultaneously totally new, deeply terrifying, and completely electrifying.“

    “It quickly became apparent, though, that GPT-3 could do much more than this. The system has proven itself capable of writing entire articles based on a simple prompt, translating between different languages, generating recipes, composing songs, and much else. Recently, the system even taught itself to code, producing usable SQL and Python. How it does this is not immediately clear even to its creators — as a system based on neural networks, GPT-3 is a “black box,” and its internal workings are so complex that they’re likely unexplainable using any currently available mathematics.“

    https://twitter.com/dd_nana_/status/1364830008653402114?s=21
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410
    edited February 2021
    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Except.
    As a Buddhist, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is also a profoundly un Buddhist sentiment.
    The Internet is already awash with random deep sounding hippy shit quotes with Buddha after them. There is an entire scholarly site fake Buddha quotes devoted to it.
    Precisely. There's a reason it's completely original - it is nonsense.

    In ancient philosophies "originality" is not to be expected.
    What?! In Buddhism, the goal of the soul is to get ‘out’ of the endless cycle of reincarnation, and thus reach Nirvana. Nirvana literally means ‘blowing out’

    How do you get there? By looking in. By losing all desires for, and attachments to, external reality.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_(Buddhism)

    GPT3 has summarised Buddhist theology in one sentence
    I beg to differ. It has spectacularly missed the point. There is no soul. Nor any inherently existing external reality.
    There is no in nor out.
    All is a projection of mind. Which is a continuum without beginning or end. And creates its own Universe from moment to moment.
    It has summarised it superficially if snappliy.
    Edit. Also there is no reincarnation. Just rebirth.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,236

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Except.
    As a Buddhist, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is also a profoundly un Buddhist sentiment.
    The Internet is already awash with random deep sounding hippy shit quotes with Buddha after them. There is an entire scholarly site fake Buddha quotes devoted to it.
    Precisely. There's a reason it's completely original - it is nonsense.

    In ancient philosophies "originality" is not to be expected.
    I'd say why not?

  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,602
    edited February 2021
    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410
    MattW said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Except.
    As a Buddhist, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is also a profoundly un Buddhist sentiment.
    The Internet is already awash with random deep sounding hippy shit quotes with Buddha after them. There is an entire scholarly site fake Buddha quotes devoted to it.
    Precisely. There's a reason it's completely original - it is nonsense.

    In ancient philosophies "originality" is not to be expected.
    I'd say why not?

    There is plenty of new Buddhist stuff being said. Particularly on the Mahayana wing it isn't dead and set in stone, immutable and unchanging.
    Just that this isn't one of them.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Except.
    As a Buddhist, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is also a profoundly un Buddhist sentiment.
    The Internet is already awash with random deep sounding hippy shit quotes with Buddha after them. There is an entire scholarly site fake Buddha quotes devoted to it.
    Precisely. There's a reason it's completely original - it is nonsense.

    In ancient philosophies "originality" is not to be expected.
    What?! In Buddhism, the goal of the soul is to get ‘out’ of the endless cycle of reincarnation, and thus reach Nirvana. Nirvana literally means ‘blowing out’

    How do you get there? By looking in. By losing all desires for, and attachments to, external reality.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_(Buddhism)

    GPT3 has summarised Buddhist theology in one sentence
    I beg to differ. It has spectacularly missed the point. There is no soul. Nor any inherently existing external reality.
    There is no in nor out.
    All is a projection of mind. Which is a continuum without beginning or end. And creates its own Universe from moment to moment.
    It has summarised it superficially if snappliy.
    Edit. Also there is no reincarnation. Just rebirth.
    In about 30 minutes you’ve gone from saying GPT3’s quote about Buddhism...

    “makes absolutely no sense whatsoever”

    To saying, now

    “It has summarised Buddhism superficially if snappily”

    In about an hour you’ll be praying to it
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    Also. This

    “Verdict

    GPT-3’s mirror of the internet is not quite ready to replace the traditional internet. Give it two years”

    https://twitter.com/drafterai/status/1364558182702579715?s=21
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
    Brilliant, ta. Which portal did you use to type the prompt. Blog idea? Tweet idea?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410
    edited February 2021
    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Except.
    As a Buddhist, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is also a profoundly un Buddhist sentiment.
    The Internet is already awash with random deep sounding hippy shit quotes with Buddha after them. There is an entire scholarly site fake Buddha quotes devoted to it.
    Precisely. There's a reason it's completely original - it is nonsense.

    In ancient philosophies "originality" is not to be expected.
    What?! In Buddhism, the goal of the soul is to get ‘out’ of the endless cycle of reincarnation, and thus reach Nirvana. Nirvana literally means ‘blowing out’

    How do you get there? By looking in. By losing all desires for, and attachments to, external reality.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_(Buddhism)

    GPT3 has summarised Buddhist theology in one sentence
    I beg to differ. It has spectacularly missed the point. There is no soul. Nor any inherently existing external reality.
    There is no in nor out.
    All is a projection of mind. Which is a continuum without beginning or end. And creates its own Universe from moment to moment.
    It has summarised it superficially if snappliy.
    Edit. Also there is no reincarnation. Just rebirth.
    In about 30 minutes you’ve gone from saying GPT3’s quote about Buddhism...

    “makes absolutely no sense whatsoever”

    To saying, now

    “It has summarised Buddhism superficially if snappily”

    In about an hour you’ll be praying to it
    I was being kind. The Bodhicitta is quite obviously a work in progress.

    It is superficial in the sense of being spot on dead wrong.

    It is snappy. So is a lot of hippy bollocks.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429
    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
    I just asked it to generate some tweet ideas on the theme “is GPT3 malevolent”

    One of its responses was this:

    “Tweet about how the worse thing that could happen to humankind is not AI becoming evil but rather good“

    Which would make a brilliant tweet, and is also a truly fascinating idea

    *gulps*
  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547
    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
    I just asked it to generate some tweet ideas on the theme “is GPT3 malevolent”

    One of its responses was this:

    “Tweet about how the worse thing that could happen to humankind is not AI becoming evil but rather good“

    Which would make a brilliant tweet, and is also a truly fascinating idea

    *gulps*
    Try something that couldn’t obviously be precooked and I might be impressed. But there’s still an off switch.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,209
    kle4 said:

    The FR/DE/EU vaccination policy/strategy must be the biggest public policy failure in god knows how many years.

    Not a single head has rolled as far as I know.
    Because they don't actually think it was a failure, despite some lukewarm comments. Although some did, at some point, take up the option of going outside the common programme, the overall assessment will likely be that if they had all done that from the start some places would be even further ahead, and others even further behind, that is presently the case. So on a solidarity level a D- for all is better than some getting As and some getting Fs.
    But that's not the problem now. The EU now has enough doses - if they were all in arms - to be at roughly the same place the US is - i.e. 12-14% of the adult population having had at least one dose of the vaccine. Now, that's miles behind the UK and Israel, but it would be an unremarkable performance.

    However... politicians - particularly Macron - decided that the best way to deflect blame from a poor vaccine procurement process was to say that the AZ jab, which the UK relies on, isn't good. "Guys, the UK may be racing ahead, but they're using an inferior vaccine."

    Now, of course, the EU has lots of AZ vaccine, and lots of people don't want it. Extraordinarily stupid behaviour. If they'd kept their mouths shut, approved AZ for everyone, and gone for a "single dose first" strategy, then the EU would be pretty much level pegging with the US, and would have appeared to have done "OK".
  • Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
    I just asked it to generate some tweet ideas on the theme “is GPT3 malevolent”

    One of its responses was this:

    “Tweet about how the worse thing that could happen to humankind is not AI becoming evil but rather good“

    Which would make a brilliant tweet, and is also a truly fascinating idea

    *gulps*
    I asked it about the EU is a benevolent institution, and it suggested

    "Ask people to share their favorite moment of the European Union or its member states."

    Something I'd never thought to ask.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,410
    edited March 2021
    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    dixiedean said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Another quote from the AI philosopher

    https://twitter.com/bygpt3/status/1358985759718395904?s=21

    These are of a publishable standard. They are true, and meaningful, even profound. And a machine is making them up

    life is not about waiting for the storm to pass. it's about learning to dance in the rain.

    Is that really made up by a machine ?

    I've seen that saying on a calendar.
    Google image search it, you will get 100s of hits for it on posters, cards etc.
    The point is, I think, that the computer comes up with these itself. Unprompted. Even if they have been written before

    And plenty of these philosophical insights ARE entirely original

    “The mind is the universe’s dream of itself”

    “The art of perceiving time is a form of divination”

    The second one is brilliant. Poetic and true at the same time
    I don't think it has come up with it unprompted....GPT3 was trained on huge amounts of the internet, which this is in the "inspirational quotes" field. Its just picked an example from something it has seen before.
    “In Buddhism the easiest way out is in”

    Apparently, completely original. One google hit: GPT3. Tweeted 6 days ago

    Some authors earn millions filling books with lines like this. Now a computer does it all by itself...
    Except.
    As a Buddhist, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. It is also a profoundly un Buddhist sentiment.
    The Internet is already awash with random deep sounding hippy shit quotes with Buddha after them. There is an entire scholarly site fake Buddha quotes devoted to it.
    Precisely. There's a reason it's completely original - it is nonsense.

    In ancient philosophies "originality" is not to be expected.
    What?! In Buddhism, the goal of the soul is to get ‘out’ of the endless cycle of reincarnation, and thus reach Nirvana. Nirvana literally means ‘blowing out’

    How do you get there? By looking in. By losing all desires for, and attachments to, external reality.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_(Buddhism)

    GPT3 has summarised Buddhist theology in one sentence
    I beg to differ. It has spectacularly missed the point. There is no soul. Nor any inherently existing external reality.
    There is no in nor out.
    All is a projection of mind. Which is a continuum without beginning or end. And creates its own Universe from moment to moment.
    It has summarised it superficially if snappliy.
    Edit. Also there is no reincarnation. Just rebirth.
    In about 30 minutes you’ve gone from saying GPT3’s quote about Buddhism...

    “makes absolutely no sense whatsoever”

    To saying, now

    “It has summarised Buddhism superficially if snappily”

    In about an hour you’ll be praying to it
    Since we refute the existence of God what do Buddhists pray to?
    Something to ask AI. Or meditate on.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,602
    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
    Brilliant, ta. Which portal did you use to type the prompt. Blog idea? Tweet idea?
    Social media post
  • EPGEPG Posts: 6,652
    Why is SeanT going on about AI (or is it actually an AI trained on SeanT)
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,587
    edited March 2021
    The biggest problem with AI is the breakdown in trust between humans that it could engender. For instance, whenever a student hands in an essay to a teacher, the teacher may be suspicious as to whether the student actually wrote it. And it might be difficult to prove that you didn't use AI to write it, even if that was the case.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,932
    EPG said:

    Why is SeanT going on about AI (or is it actually an AI trained on SeanT)

    It's not just him going on about it, it seems to be quite the story.
  • Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
    I just asked it to generate some tweet ideas on the theme “is GPT3 malevolent”

    One of its responses was this:

    “Tweet about how the worse thing that could happen to humankind is not AI becoming evil but rather good“

    Which would make a brilliant tweet, and is also a truly fascinating idea

    *gulps*
    I asked it about the EU is a benevolent institution, and it suggested

    "Ask people to share their favorite moment of the European Union or its member states."

    Something I'd never thought to ask.
    Excuses for the EU vaccine rollout -

    "Don't think of it as your taxes going to vaccine research, think of it as your taxes going to delicious mayonnaise based sandwich spreads. 🍔"
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,429

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
    I just asked it to generate some tweet ideas on the theme “is GPT3 malevolent”

    One of its responses was this:

    “Tweet about how the worse thing that could happen to humankind is not AI becoming evil but rather good“

    Which would make a brilliant tweet, and is also a truly fascinating idea

    *gulps*
    I asked it about the EU is a benevolent institution, and it suggested

    "Ask people to share their favorite moment of the European Union or its member states."

    Something I'd never thought to ask.
    I just asked GPT3 “is God hiding inside computers?”

    One of its replies:

    “Please stop asking where God is. He’s right here searching for wifi”

    Which is simultaneously clever, strange and witty
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,693
    rcs1000 said:

    kle4 said:

    The FR/DE/EU vaccination policy/strategy must be the biggest public policy failure in god knows how many years.

    Not a single head has rolled as far as I know.
    Because they don't actually think it was a failure, despite some lukewarm comments. Although some did, at some point, take up the option of going outside the common programme, the overall assessment will likely be that if they had all done that from the start some places would be even further ahead, and others even further behind, that is presently the case. So on a solidarity level a D- for all is better than some getting As and some getting Fs.
    But that's not the problem now. The EU now has enough doses - if they were all in arms - to be at roughly the same place the US is - i.e. 12-14% of the adult population having had at least one dose of the vaccine. Now, that's miles behind the UK and Israel, but it would be an unremarkable performance.

    However... politicians - particularly Macron - decided that the best way to deflect blame from a poor vaccine procurement process was to say that the AZ jab, which the UK relies on, isn't good. "Guys, the UK may be racing ahead, but they're using an inferior vaccine."

    Now, of course, the EU has lots of AZ vaccine, and lots of people don't want it. Extraordinarily stupid behaviour. If they'd kept their mouths shut, approved AZ for everyone, and gone for a "single dose first" strategy, then the EU would be pretty much level pegging with the US, and would have appeared to have done "OK".
    What's your view on the differential economic impact from countries getting back to 'normal' activity at different times?
  • Time_to_LeaveTime_to_Leave Posts: 2,547
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
    I just asked it to generate some tweet ideas on the theme “is GPT3 malevolent”

    One of its responses was this:

    “Tweet about how the worse thing that could happen to humankind is not AI becoming evil but rather good“

    Which would make a brilliant tweet, and is also a truly fascinating idea

    *gulps*
    I asked it about the EU is a benevolent institution, and it suggested

    "Ask people to share their favorite moment of the European Union or its member states."

    Something I'd never thought to ask.
    I just asked GPT3 “is God hiding inside computers?”

    One of its replies:

    “Please stop asking where God is. He’s right here searching for wifi”

    Which is simultaneously clever, strange and witty
    And predictable, and preprogrammed.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,932

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:

    Barnesian said:

    Leon said:
    I put in "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    It came back with "GPT3: The most intelligent dress shirt in the world".

    Not kidding! It does irony.
    Ooh. How did you put it in? I’m so far down the rabbit hole I missed that

    I think GPT3 is ‘intelligent’. This is it

    Check this guy. He interviewed GPT3.

    https://twitter.com/bobehayes/status/1363888953707933711?s=21
    I went to peppertype.ai and entered your sentence. "This is a fascinating short article which, inter alia, discusses whether GPT3 is actually ‘intelligent’"

    https://app.peppertype.ai/create?promptId=8c408116-64cc-46b7-a6f5-049a0f2dfc36

    EDIt I tried it again with the same words and it said:

    The debate is raging: is GPT3 intelligent?
    Winston Churchill, 1933: “Yes, but only in the sense that a cow is a quadriped”
    I just asked it to generate some tweet ideas on the theme “is GPT3 malevolent”

    One of its responses was this:

    “Tweet about how the worse thing that could happen to humankind is not AI becoming evil but rather good“

    Which would make a brilliant tweet, and is also a truly fascinating idea

    *gulps*
    I asked it about the EU is a benevolent institution, and it suggested

    "Ask people to share their favorite moment of the European Union or its member states."

    Something I'd never thought to ask.
    I just asked GPT3 “is God hiding inside computers?”

    One of its replies:

    “Please stop asking where God is. He’s right here searching for wifi”

    Which is simultaneously clever, strange and witty
    And predictable, and preprogrammed.
    Isn't the whole point it isn't pre-programmed?
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