Anyway, Husband was tested and does not have blood clot or pneumonia, as feared, but does have fibrosis on his lungs caused, I imagine, by this blasted virus. His O2 levels are at the low end of what is normal but he is back home.
Feels rough and sleeping a great deal. So we hang on for better days.
Brother is getting his first jab next week.
He's younger than me!
But am pleased for him.
You and your family really do deserve some good news
Saffers variant found in different areas of London....game over...its already everywhere.
Are you suggesting we are all going to die? It all depends how the Safferbug responds to the vaccine
Moderna and Pfizer have said they expect only a small impact on efficacy.
J&J's vaccine has actual data, and showed efficacy was at 52% for the South African version vs 72% for the US version of Covid.
Novovax did too, 95% against normal COVID, 85% against Kent COVID and around 60% against SA COVID. Crucially it still has 100% efficacy for hospitalisation and death against SA COVID.
This is the really key thing: can we drop hospitalisations and deaths down sharply?
Because if we can, we turn CV19 into the flu.
Yes totally agree, of we can turn it into an annual booster shot for the over 50s we've beaten it,at least in the UK where we could probably roll it into the flu jab scheme after a while.
A twofer Covid and flu jab would have a far greater uptake than flu alone. Because - well, who'd want to take the risk of Covid. So, the long-term impact of Covid 19 might be to greatly reduce flu deaths - which has always been a big (and sometimes huge) number.
Let's hear it for Covid 19....
Dear bought shall those songs be, and yet well bought. Good shall come of that evil, and evil yet good to have been.
(Can anyone place that quotation? It is quite an obscure one.)
Saffers variant found in different areas of London....game over...its already everywhere.
Are you suggesting we are all going to die? It all depends how the Safferbug responds to the vaccine
Moderna and Pfizer have said they expect only a small impact on efficacy.
J&J's vaccine has actual data, and showed efficacy was at 52% for the South African version vs 72% for the US version of Covid.
Novovax did too, 95% against normal COVID, 85% against Kent COVID and around 60% against SA COVID. Crucially it still has 100% efficacy for hospitalisation and death against SA COVID.
This is the really key thing: can we drop hospitalisations and deaths down sharply?
Because if we can, we turn CV19 into the flu.
Yes totally agree, of we can turn it into an annual booster shot for the over 50s we've beaten it,at least in the UK where we could probably roll it into the flu jab scheme after a while.
A twofer Covid and flu jab would have a far greater uptake than flu alone. Because - well, who'd want to take the risk of Covid. So, the long-term impact of Covid 19 might be to greatly reduce flu deaths - which has always been a big (and sometimes huge) number.
Let's hear it for Covid 19....
Dear bought shall those songs be, and yet well bought. Good shall come of that evil, and evil yet good to have been.
(Can anyone place that quotation? It is quite an obscure one.)
I just struck an agreement to be first, I’d like to take your place from you because contracts.
I signed an agreement 2 seconds ago (yes I know that's 14 minutes / 3 months later than MarqueeMark's post) with Philip_Thompson (random poster that isn't OGH) that my post would be first.
How dare you not give me my rightful first post.
I think we're going to have to have implement a "First" export notification system, just to ensure I get fair dibs on the current production quotas.
I am prepared to enter a contract with you (or others) to allow you to be first on threads in exchange for a fee.
This contract will be governed by the laws of The Federated States of Micronesia.
Don't do it anyone - others may have agreement with OGH, a separate legal entity, and you won't be entitled to jack.
Hush.
What about guaranteed first places to those who make the biggest donation to site funds. A bit like Oxford/Cambridge college admissions were said to be.
No donations in my time.
I was the last year to get my university fees paid for by the taxpayer.
My father said me going to university saved him so much money because he was no longer paying private school fees.
Some of us are old enough to have had a grant.
Explaining that concept to my sixth-form students is something I reserve for moments when I need cheering up.
They had grants in my day, I just wasn't eligible for them, I think I got a £100 allowance by accident.
What sort of accountant did your father have? My father bought a tractor or two a bit early, hey presto full grant.
It is very hard to describe yourself as poor when your father was an NHS Doctor.
Yes, mine was a company director so it wasn't happening.
My schoolfriend who lived in a blooming mansion, and drove a brand new car when we were in sixth form - his Dad was a self employed plumber, the accountant had his salary as tenpence ha'penny, so got a full grant.
Off topic. I would hate to be a leaseholder with a flat , with cladding that is now classed as dangerous. The costs to them are eye-watering. Many will face bankruptcy for no fault of ther own.
I think it is a good call by Lab to chase this. Govt very much need to have a way out of this now.
But I have yet to see any real proposals for going after the insulation companies.
At the moment it all seems to be about narratives for victims with votes.
It's a scandal. Loads of people (many in straitened circumstances) losing more money than they can afford and/or trapped and unable to move. If we weren't in a time where Covid and Brexit eat all the pies it would be all over the media and a very hot political potato.
(Sorry about pies AND potatoes there. You can tell I've got dinner on the brain.)
Don't get me into Dinner On The Brain - I have to learn how to fillet a (small, but whole) Tilapia some time this week. Bought on a whim at Morrisons. Several of its former friends have tried to eat Jeremy Wade !
Agree on the cost, but what of the remedy? Who to pay, and how? At the moment it is being driven by a group of populist (?) MPs trying to save their constituents from paying.
UK Govt as some sort of 'community' cover?
Why socialise the cost - we others have done nothing wrong. And many of us paid the extra for a house, as we know flats are risky.
Insulation Product companies?
AIUI there are 2 groups of manufacturers who make this stuff - Celotex (now part of St Gobain - roots back to 1665, French and a conglomerate owning eg Jewson, Benchmark, International Timber etc - turnover 180bn, 180k employees), and Kingspan (Irish, entrpreneurial, 15k empoyees, £5bn turnover).
Kingspan could be taken down by it. St Gobain hurt.
Freehold owners?
Unlikely to be enough money in it, as these are worth a few k per flat. Say 12x ground rent on a 8.5%. yield. £500 ground rent -> £6k ish.
Why should freeholders be any more liable than owner, as they aere no more insulation material experts.
Leaseholders?
Currently the law seems to leave them holding the baby.
Building Regulators?
They and companies (depending on verdict - to cover OGH's backside) are perhaps the obvious ones who may have done something wrong - certified it and allowed others to use it. Subject to possible deception by insulation companies.
Some sort of insurance?
Developers?
Are they not covered by using approved materials - if they have. Though arguably they should know better than most.
Perhaps the way is for Govt to cover, then go after whoever the enquiry fingers afterwards.
Good post explaining the problems but it is not acceptable for the govt to say its difficult and leave it there.
They need to decide who is paying and make it happen. Perhaps it should be split several ways across the different groups, including the government, leaseholders, freeholders, builders and insurers. Suddenly each is dealing with 20% of the cost and it starts to be more achievable.
How is that possible before the inquiry is done - as it would be second guessing the verdict, wouldn't it (?)
Another facebook friend into A&E with Covid, London based, late 30s I think. The idea ANYONE unvaccinated isn't vulnerable is for the birds. If you're older or have a PEC you're particularly vulnerable but it really can knock anyone down.
I just struck an agreement to be first, I’d like to take your place from you because contracts.
I signed an agreement 2 seconds ago (yes I know that's 14 minutes / 3 months later than MarqueeMark's post) with Philip_Thompson (random poster that isn't OGH) that my post would be first.
How dare you not give me my rightful first post.
I think we're going to have to have implement a "First" export notification system, just to ensure I get fair dibs on the current production quotas.
I am prepared to enter a contract with you (or others) to allow you to be first on threads in exchange for a fee.
This contract will be governed by the laws of The Federated States of Micronesia.
Don't do it anyone - others may have agreement with OGH, a separate legal entity, and you won't be entitled to jack.
Hush.
What about guaranteed first places to those who make the biggest donation to site funds. A bit like Oxford/Cambridge college admissions were said to be.
No donations in my time.
I was the last year to get my university fees paid for by the taxpayer.
My father said me going to university saved him so much money because he was no longer paying private school fees.
Some of us are old enough to have had a grant.
Explaining that concept to my sixth-form students is something I reserve for moments when I need cheering up.
They had grants in my day, I just wasn't eligible for them, I think I got a £100 allowance by accident.
A working class hero is something to be. No grant for you but a full one for ME. ✊
You're 85, you could probably have supported a townhouse, a mistress and a share of a racehorse on your maintenance grant.
"As we mentioned earlier, Israel's coronavirus vaccination programme is showing signs of working to drive down infections and illness in the over-60s.
Israeli Ministry of Health (MoH) figures show 531 over-60s, out of almost 750,000 fully vaccinated, tested positive for coronavirus (0.07%).
And far fewer fell ill, with 38 becoming needing hospital treatment with moderate, severe or critical disease.
There were three deaths in vaccinated over-60s - although it is possible they contracted the infection earlier, before their immunity had time to build.
Before the vaccine had time to take effect, more than 7,000 infections were recorded, just under 700 cases of moderate to critical illness and 307 deaths.
The MoH data suggests infections and illnesses fell consistently from 14 days after receiving the first jab onwards."
I'm confident/hopeful that the vaccination drive will reduce deaths ultimately by more than the amount quoted - albeit with the a few weeks lag due to the gap between vaccination to protection. Regrettably lots of current infections and hospitalisations need to wind out to a conclusion one way or another.
But going forwards yes vaccinations should help protect the vaccinated individual against death, but they should also help build an element of herd immunity towards reducing the spread of the virus.
I suspect we're already seeing a factor of that with the vaccination of care and NHS workers who were unwitting superspreaders of the virus.
If the vaccine protects the vaccinated against death and protects others against spread then R should come down sustainably below 1.
So long as everyone gets their vaccine - and so long as we don't import a vaccine-resistant variant, which is why it should be mandatory hotel quarantines from now until when we can declare the pandemic over. Once lifted, never again for this pandemic should we have domestic restrictions as opposed to international ones.
That's our future? Panic induced fortress Britain afraid of its own shadow for ever?
I'm confident/hopeful that the vaccination drive will reduce deaths ultimately by more than the amount quoted - albeit with the a few weeks lag due to the gap between vaccination to protection. Regrettably lots of current infections and hospitalisations need to wind out to a conclusion one way or another.
But going forwards yes vaccinations should help protect the vaccinated individual against death, but they should also help build an element of herd immunity towards reducing the spread of the virus.
I suspect we're already seeing a factor of that with the vaccination of care and NHS workers who were unwitting superspreaders of the virus.
If the vaccine protects the vaccinated against death and protects others against spread then R should come down sustainably below 1.
So long as everyone gets their vaccine - and so long as we don't import a vaccine-resistant variant, which is why it should be mandatory hotel quarantines from now until when we can declare the pandemic over. Once lifted, never again for this pandemic should we have domestic restrictions as opposed to international ones.
That's our future? Panic induced fortress Britain afraid of its own shadow for ever?
I'm just happy the rest of the country caught up to me on that score, I was like that before Covid.
Good luck to him but it is a further step away from the public sphere making it crystal clear, if it was not before, that he will not be involved in front line politics again. Unfortunate in my view but who can blame him?
I just struck an agreement to be first, I’d like to take your place from you because contracts.
I signed an agreement 2 seconds ago (yes I know that's 14 minutes / 3 months later than MarqueeMark's post) with Philip_Thompson (random poster that isn't OGH) that my post would be first.
How dare you not give me my rightful first post.
I think we're going to have to have implement a "First" export notification system, just to ensure I get fair dibs on the current production quotas.
I am prepared to enter a contract with you (or others) to allow you to be first on threads in exchange for a fee.
This contract will be governed by the laws of The Federated States of Micronesia.
Don't do it anyone - others may have agreement with OGH, a separate legal entity, and you won't be entitled to jack.
Hush.
What about guaranteed first places to those who make the biggest donation to site funds. A bit like Oxford/Cambridge college admissions were said to be.
No donations in my time.
I was the last year to get my university fees paid for by the taxpayer.
My father said me going to university saved him so much money because he was no longer paying private school fees.
Some of us are old enough to have had a grant.
Explaining that concept to my sixth-form students is something I reserve for moments when I need cheering up.
They had grants in my day, I just wasn't eligible for them, I think I got a £100 allowance by accident.
A working class hero is something to be. No grant for you but a full one for ME. ✊
You're 85, you could probably have supported a townhouse, a mistress and a share of a racehorse on your maintenance grant.
☺ - Those were the days. So long ago the memories are all jerky and in black and white.
I'm confident/hopeful that the vaccination drive will reduce deaths ultimately by more than the amount quoted - albeit with the a few weeks lag due to the gap between vaccination to protection. Regrettably lots of current infections and hospitalisations need to wind out to a conclusion one way or another.
But going forwards yes vaccinations should help protect the vaccinated individual against death, but they should also help build an element of herd immunity towards reducing the spread of the virus.
I suspect we're already seeing a factor of that with the vaccination of care and NHS workers who were unwitting superspreaders of the virus.
If the vaccine protects the vaccinated against death and protects others against spread then R should come down sustainably below 1.
So long as everyone gets their vaccine - and so long as we don't import a vaccine-resistant variant, which is why it should be mandatory hotel quarantines from now until when we can declare the pandemic over. Once lifted, never again for this pandemic should we have domestic restrictions as opposed to international ones.
That's our future? Panic induced fortress Britain afraid of its own shadow for ever?
FFS.
Not forever, just until the rest of the world catches up with us. Fully 100% unlock domestically, have kids going to school - restaurants, pubs and yes even nightclubs open - but keep the border secure.
Would you rather have another cycle of locking down domestically?
Anyway, Husband was tested and does not have blood clot or pneumonia, as feared, but does have fibrosis on his lungs caused, I imagine, by this blasted virus. His O2 levels are at the low end of what is normal but he is back home.
Feels rough and sleeping a great deal. So we hang on for better days.
Brother is getting his first jab next week.
He's younger than me!
But am pleased for him.
You and your family really do deserve some good news
Thank you. We all do.
My 4 wishes for this year: (1) Husband gets fully better. (2) We all get vaccinated. (3) Insurance company pays out to Daughter under Business Interruption Clause following the Supreme Court ruling. (4) Sons get their jobs sorted.
Another facebook friend into A&E with Covid, London based, late 30s I think. The idea ANYONE unvaccinated isn't vulnerable is for the birds. If you're older or have a PEC you're particularly vulnerable but it really can knock anyone down.
Yes - this is not really understood well enough. This virus is no joke for the young.
Off topic. I would hate to be a leaseholder with a flat , with cladding that is now classed as dangerous. The costs to them are eye-watering. Many will face bankruptcy for no fault of ther own.
I think it is a good call by Lab to chase this. Govt very much need to have a way out of this now.
But I have yet to see any real proposals for going after the insulation companies.
At the moment it all seems to be about narratives for victims with votes.
It's a scandal. Loads of people (many in straitened circumstances) losing more money than they can afford and/or trapped and unable to move. If we weren't in a time where Covid and Brexit eat all the pies it would be all over the media and a very hot political potato.
(Sorry about pies AND potatoes there. You can tell I've got dinner on the brain.)
Don't get me into Dinner On The Brain - I have to learn how to fillet a (small, but whole) Tilapia some time this week. Bought on a whim at Morrisons. Several of its former friends have tried to eat Jeremy Wade !
Agree on the cost, but what of the remedy? Who to pay, and how? At the moment it is being driven by a group of populist (?) MPs trying to save their constituents from paying.
UK Govt as some sort of 'community' cover?
Why socialise the cost - we others have done nothing wrong. And many of us paid the extra for a house, as we know flats are risky.
Insulation Product companies?
AIUI there are 2 groups of manufacturers who make this stuff - Celotex (now part of St Gobain - roots back to 1665, French and a conglomerate owning eg Jewson, Benchmark, International Timber etc - turnover 180bn, 180k employees), and Kingspan (Irish, entrpreneurial, 15k empoyees, £5bn turnover).
Kingspan could be taken down by it. St Gobain hurt.
Freehold owners?
Unlikely to be enough money in it, as these are worth a few k per flat. Say 12x ground rent on a 8.5%. yield. £500 ground rent -> £6k ish.
Why should freeholders be any more liable than owner, as they aere no more insulation material experts.
Leaseholders?
Currently the law seems to leave them holding the baby.
Building Regulators?
They and companies (depending on verdict - to cover OGH's backside) are perhaps the obvious ones who may have done something wrong - certified it and allowed others to use it. Subject to possible deception by insulation companies.
Some sort of insurance?
Developers?
Are they not covered by using approved materials - if they have. Though arguably they should know better than most.
Perhaps the way is for Govt to cover, then go after whoever the enquiry fingers afterwards.
Good post explaining the problems but it is not acceptable for the govt to say its difficult and leave it there.
They need to decide who is paying and make it happen. Perhaps it should be split several ways across the different groups, including the government, leaseholders, freeholders, builders and insurers. Suddenly each is dealing with 20% of the cost and it starts to be more achievable.
How is that possible before the inquiry is done - as it would be second guessing the verdict, wouldn't it (?)
The govt is refusing to implement the recommendations from the inquiry so far anyway. It surely cant simultaneously argue it cant take action until the inquiry gives more recommendations (which they may again refuse to implement).
Anyway, Husband was tested and does not have blood clot or pneumonia, as feared, but does have fibrosis on his lungs caused, I imagine, by this blasted virus. His O2 levels are at the low end of what is normal but he is back home.
Feels rough and sleeping a great deal. So we hang on for better days.
I watched it and don't think any voices were heard other than Starmer's and the narrator's, SNP desperation I am afraid after an abysmal day for Sturgeon
I watched it and don't think any voices were heard other than Starmer's and the narrator's, SNP desperation I am afraid after an abysmal day for Sturgeon
Hah, I thought it was full of English people/actors or something.
Anyway, Husband was tested and does not have blood clot or pneumonia, as feared, but does have fibrosis on his lungs caused, I imagine, by this blasted virus. His O2 levels are at the low end of what is normal but he is back home.
Feels rough and sleeping a great deal. So we hang on for better days.
Brother is getting his first jab next week.
He's younger than me!
But am pleased for him.
Sorry to hear he is still poorly. Obviously we have no long term follow up of Covid-19, but we do for SARDS following the 2002 outbreak. Lungs generally recovered well. Don't worry about the hips, that was a side effect of the pulsed steroid used, not the virus.
I watched it and don't think any voices were heard other than Starmer's and the narrator's, SNP desperation I am afraid after an abysmal day for Sturgeon
A random bloke tweeting is the SNP? That would be like saying some wee diddy from Epping on a betting site represents Unionism.
Either Sturgeon is phenomenally weak and this is the culmination of utter desperation orrrrrr the most popular politician in Scotland with broad support across the UK is flexing like a mother fucker.
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Good luck to him but it is a further step away from the public sphere making it crystal clear, if it was not before, that he will not be involved in front line politics again. Unfortunate in my view but who can blame him?
Either Sturgeon is phenomenally weak and this is the culmination of utter desperation orrrrrr the most popular politician in Scotland with broad support across the UK is flexing like a mother fucker.
Can you explain to a non-Scot what all this gibberish means? I know he's that obnoxious guy who spits the word "white" like it is a a sweary thing.
Is this something to do with transphobia, or what?
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Someone at least discussed it in 1964
Mr Hamilton: Will the Prime Minister initiate such discussions [for a statue in Palace of Westminster], because Mr. Chamberlain really has a claim on the affections of the House and the country as a pioneer in the public ownership of banking? If the right hon. Gentleman is ashamed of his association with the appeasement policy, does not he nevertheless consider that a suitable memorial to Mr. Chamberlain would be the continuation and extension of the principle of public ownership of the banking system?
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Are other Unionists all thick? You stand by the side of the Scottish leader, defer to them, and heavily feature the Saltire. If you’re Labour, you need to be saying ONLY you can be a forceful voice for Scotland within the Union with an actual chance of power in Westminster. You emphasise how inclusive and U.K. wide Labour Governments are and try to move anti-English sentiment into anti-Tory sentiment, with you as the standard bearer. The target can’t be to win, but it can be to peel off 5-10% of the SNP vote.
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Someone at least discussed it in 1964
Mr Hamilton: Will the Prime Minister initiate such discussions [for a statue in Palace of Westminster], because Mr. Chamberlain really has a claim on the affections of the House and the country as a pioneer in the public ownership of banking? If the right hon. Gentleman is ashamed of his association with the appeasement policy, does not he nevertheless consider that a suitable memorial to Mr. Chamberlain would be the continuation and extension of the principle of public ownership of the banking system?
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
More special pleading, more like. Don’t begrudge them it - if they can get extra subsidies by showing some bleeding stumps then they are doing their job. Like unions and pay rises.
Either Sturgeon is phenomenally weak and this is the culmination of utter desperation orrrrrr the most popular politician in Scotland with broad support across the UK is flexing like a mother fucker.
Can you explain to a non-Scot what all this gibberish means? I know he's that obnoxious guy who spits the word "white" like it is a a sweary thing.
Is this something to do with transphobia, or what?
Various. It has (had?) measures about "stirring up hate", which is you talking to anybody else about something, rather than to someone who could be a victim directly.
(Do they have conspiracy as a legal concept in Scottish law?)
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Someone at least discussed it in 1964
Mr Hamilton: Will the Prime Minister initiate such discussions [for a statue in Palace of Westminster], because Mr. Chamberlain really has a claim on the affections of the House and the country as a pioneer in the public ownership of banking? If the right hon. Gentleman is ashamed of his association with the appeasement policy, does not he nevertheless consider that a suitable memorial to Mr. Chamberlain would be the continuation and extension of the principle of public ownership of the banking system?
Are other Unionists all thick? You stand by the side of the Scottish leader, defer to them, and heavily feature the Saltire. If you’re Labour, you need to be saying ONLY you can be a forceful voice for Scotland within the Union with an actual chance of power in Westminster. You emphasise how inclusive and U.K. wide Labour Governments are and try to move anti-English sentiment into anti-Tory sentiment, with you as the standard bearer. The target can’t be to win, but it can be to peel off 5-10% of the SNP vote.
From 1992 to 2010 every Labour leader was Scottish in one way or another.
And they won three general elections in that time.
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Someone at least discussed it in 1964
Mr Hamilton: Will the Prime Minister initiate such discussions [for a statue in Palace of Westminster], because Mr. Chamberlain really has a claim on the affections of the House and the country as a pioneer in the public ownership of banking? If the right hon. Gentleman is ashamed of his association with the appeasement policy, does not he nevertheless consider that a suitable memorial to Mr. Chamberlain would be the continuation and extension of the principle of public ownership of the banking system?
I thought in WM it was ultimately being dragged to the bar, as with John Junor. And that there the HoC could formally punish. (But hadn't since 1644 or something).
More special pleading, more like. Don’t begrudge them it - if they can get extra subsidies by showing some bleeding stumps then they are doing their job. Like unions and pay rises.
Yes, it's only a £35bn industry, 1.6% of GDP, mainly comprising small companies. Expendable like the fishing industry, and the lamb exporters, the small wine importers, anyone selling small quantities of anything to EU consumers, the theatre and music industry, international architects, and of course Northern Ireland.
As @Philip_Thompson is fond of reminding us, the economy will adjust. Pity it will adjust downwards with all those businesses clobbered or shut altogether.
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Scotland is becoming a sick country. That is pure indoctrination. Imagine if the same went out to English kids, a picture of Boris with the Tory logo and Conservative Name and his great achievement.
Then, say, a picture of Blair just saying he was a politician who did stuff. No logo. No "Labour"
It's actually quite sad. Edinburgh was one of the cradles of the Enlightenment.
Saffers variant found in different areas of London....game over...its already everywhere.
Are you suggesting we are all going to die? It all depends how the Safferbug responds to the vaccine
Moderna and Pfizer have said they expect only a small impact on efficacy.
J&J's vaccine has actual data, and showed efficacy was at 52% for the South African version vs 72% for the US version of Covid.
Novovax did too, 95% against normal COVID, 85% against Kent COVID and around 60% against SA COVID. Crucially it still has 100% efficacy for hospitalisation and death against SA COVID.
This is the really key thing: can we drop hospitalisations and deaths down sharply?
Because if we can, we turn CV19 into the flu.
Yes totally agree, of we can turn it into an annual booster shot for the over 50s we've beaten it,at least in the UK where we could probably roll it into the flu jab scheme after a while.
A twofer Covid and flu jab would have a far greater uptake than flu alone. Because - well, who'd want to take the risk of Covid. So, the long-term impact of Covid 19 might be to greatly reduce flu deaths - which has always been a big (and sometimes huge) number.
Let's hear it for Covid 19....
Dear bought shall those songs be, and yet well bought. Good shall come of that evil, and evil yet good to have been.
(Can anyone place that quotation? It is quite an obscure one.)
Saffers variant found in different areas of London....game over...its already everywhere.
Are you suggesting we are all going to die? It all depends how the Safferbug responds to the vaccine
Moderna and Pfizer have said they expect only a small impact on efficacy.
J&J's vaccine has actual data, and showed efficacy was at 52% for the South African version vs 72% for the US version of Covid.
Novovax did too, 95% against normal COVID, 85% against Kent COVID and around 60% against SA COVID. Crucially it still has 100% efficacy for hospitalisation and death against SA COVID.
This is the really key thing: can we drop hospitalisations and deaths down sharply?
Because if we can, we turn CV19 into the flu.
Yes totally agree, of we can turn it into an annual booster shot for the over 50s we've beaten it,at least in the UK where we could probably roll it into the flu jab scheme after a while.
A twofer Covid and flu jab would have a far greater uptake than flu alone. Because - well, who'd want to take the risk of Covid. So, the long-term impact of Covid 19 might be to greatly reduce flu deaths - which has always been a big (and sometimes huge) number.
Let's hear it for Covid 19....
Dear bought shall those songs be, and yet well bought. Good shall come of that evil, and evil yet good to have been.
(Can anyone place that quotation? It is quite an obscure one.)
Either Sturgeon is phenomenally weak and this is the culmination of utter desperation orrrrrr the most popular politician in Scotland with broad support across the UK is flexing like a mother fucker.
Can you explain to a non-Scot what all this gibberish means? I know he's that obnoxious guy who spits the word "white" like it is a a sweary thing.
Is this something to do with transphobia, or what?
As a PB Scotch expert I would have thought you au fait with all of this.
More special pleading, more like. Don’t begrudge them it - if they can get extra subsidies by showing some bleeding stumps then they are doing their job. Like unions and pay rises.
Yes, it's only a £35bn industry, 1.6% of GDP, mainly comprising small companies. Expendable like the fishing industry, and the lamb exporters, the small wine importers, anyone selling small quantities of anything to EU consumers, the theatre and music industry, international architects, and of course Northern Ireland.
As @Philip_Thompson is fond of reminding us, the economy will adjust. Pity it will adjust downwards with all those businesses clobbered or shut altogether.
If only this forum had an expert on all the above industries, as well as everything else, who could put everyone's mind at rest.
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Someone at least discussed it in 1964
Mr Hamilton: Will the Prime Minister initiate such discussions [for a statue in Palace of Westminster], because Mr. Chamberlain really has a claim on the affections of the House and the country as a pioneer in the public ownership of banking? If the right hon. Gentleman is ashamed of his association with the appeasement policy, does not he nevertheless consider that a suitable memorial to Mr. Chamberlain would be the continuation and extension of the principle of public ownership of the banking system?
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Someone at least discussed it in 1964
Mr Hamilton: Will the Prime Minister initiate such discussions [for a statue in Palace of Westminster], because Mr. Chamberlain really has a claim on the affections of the House and the country as a pioneer in the public ownership of banking? If the right hon. Gentleman is ashamed of his association with the appeasement policy, does not he nevertheless consider that a suitable memorial to Mr. Chamberlain would be the continuation and extension of the principle of public ownership of the banking system?
I'm still astonished we have statues of the Nazi loving Edward VIII
I hope the Aberystwyth University have better selection criteria for their students than they do for their statues.
Of course. They only pick the ones too brilliant to go to Oxbridge.
My sister went to both.
Well, I suppose after three years at a rubbish uni a short time at a proper one might have undone the damage. pring (You're going to tell me she did her first degree at Aber now, aren't you?)
No, her PhD. !w anything about the spring growth of white clover, she is the one to ask.
Saffers variant found in different areas of London....game over...its already everywhere.
Are you suggesting we are all going to die? It all depends how the Safferbug responds to the vaccine
Moderna and Pfizer have said they expect only a small impact on efficacy.
J&J's vaccine has actual data, and showed efficacy was at 52% for the South African version vs 72% for the US version of Covid.
Novovax did too, 95% against normal COVID, 85% against Kent COVID and around 60% against SA COVID. Crucially it still has 100% efficacy for hospitalisation and death against SA COVID.
This is the really key thing: can we drop hospitalisations and deaths down sharply?
Because if we can, we turn CV19 into the flu.
Yes totally agree, of we can turn it into an annual booster shot for the over 50s we've beaten it,at least in the UK where we could probably roll it into the flu jab scheme after a while.
A twofer Covid and flu jab would have a far greater uptake than flu alone. Because - well, who'd want to take the risk of Covid. So, the long-term impact of Covid 19 might be to greatly reduce flu deaths - which has always been a big (and sometimes huge) number.
Let's hear it for Covid 19....
Dear bought shall those songs be, and yet well bought. Good shall come of that evil, and evil yet good to have been.
(Can anyone place that quotation? It is quite an obscure one.)
I'm too late, but I did want to boast anyway that I immediately recognised this as Manwë's response to hearing of Fëanor's answer to the Curse of Mandos.
So many wonderful quotes in the Silmarillion. "...we have come through bliss to woe. The other now we will try: through sorrow to find joy; or freedom, at the least.
Dad's got his appointments sorted now. Only Mum left to go, but she's in cohort 5 so not a surprise she's yet to get the call. Hopefully by the end of the month though.
Are other Unionists all thick? You stand by the side of the Scottish leader, defer to them, and heavily feature the Saltire. If you’re Labour, you need to be saying ONLY you can be a forceful voice for Scotland within the Union with an actual chance of power in Westminster. You emphasise how inclusive and U.K. wide Labour Governments are and try to move anti-English sentiment into anti-Tory sentiment, with you as the standard bearer. The target can’t be to win, but it can be to peel off 5-10% of the SNP vote.
From 1992 to 2010 every Labour leader was Scottish in one way or another.
And they won three general elections in that time.
From 1976 to 1992 every Labour leader was Welsh in one way or another.
And they lost four general elections in that time.
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
He is there for the undergraduates to put traffic cones on his head, and to celebrate his dictum to a journalist who questioned the number of cases of Veuve Clicquot among his supplies that "i don't mind living on bread and cheese and beer but I cannot abide cheap champagne."
Why did they ever stick up a statue of Reverse Buller?
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
'There were many public expressions of sympathy for Buller, especially in the West Country, where in 1905 by public subscription a notable statue by Adrian Jones of Buller astride his war horse was erected in Exeter on the road from his home town of Crediton' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
He was a serial loser that was positively French.
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
Someone at least discussed it in 1964
Mr Hamilton: Will the Prime Minister initiate such discussions [for a statue in Palace of Westminster], because Mr. Chamberlain really has a claim on the affections of the House and the country as a pioneer in the public ownership of banking? If the right hon. Gentleman is ashamed of his association with the appeasement policy, does not he nevertheless consider that a suitable memorial to Mr. Chamberlain would be the continuation and extension of the principle of public ownership of the banking system?
I'm still astonished we have statues of the Nazi loving Edward VIII
I hope the Aberystwyth University have better selection criteria for their students than they do for their statues.
Of course. They only pick the ones too brilliant to go to Oxbridge.
My sister went to both.
Well, I suppose after three years at a rubbish uni a short time at a proper one might have undone the damage. pring (You're going to tell me she did her first degree at Aber now, aren't you?)
No, her PhD. !w anything about the spring growth of white clover, she is the one to ask.
Edit: clover, not cover!
Not sure what happened to that comment: what I was trying to say was if you want to know anything about the spring growth of white clover, she is the person to ask.
Useful graph, based on the assumption that we don't ramp up the vaccination rate any further, and that everyone takes up the offer of a vaccine. In practice we should do better on the ramp-up, and the fact that not everyone will take up the offer will move the dates for starting groups 5 onwards slightly sooner (albeit with big local variations):
Are other Unionists all thick? You stand by the side of the Scottish leader, defer to them, and heavily feature the Saltire. If you’re Labour, you need to be saying ONLY you can be a forceful voice for Scotland within the Union with an actual chance of power in Westminster. You emphasise how inclusive and U.K. wide Labour Governments are and try to move anti-English sentiment into anti-Tory sentiment, with you as the standard bearer. The target can’t be to win, but it can be to peel off 5-10% of the SNP vote.
From 1992 to 2010 every Labour leader was Scottish in one way or another.
And they won three general elections in that time.
From 1976 to 1992 every Labour leader was Welsh in one way or another.
And they lost four general elections in that time.
Is Starmer Welsh?
The English just can't cope with our brilliance, unless it's a genuine emergency.
Perhaps the EU could suggest to China that 'best efforts' means you absolutely must deliver on the commitments?
Or...is that what they've always thought it meant given recent comments, and didn't realise China could do otherwise?
The one thing that could make the situation even worse than it already is would be for the EU to become dependent on China and Russia for things like vaccines.
Are other Unionists all thick? You stand by the side of the Scottish leader, defer to them, and heavily feature the Saltire. If you’re Labour, you need to be saying ONLY you can be a forceful voice for Scotland within the Union with an actual chance of power in Westminster. You emphasise how inclusive and U.K. wide Labour Governments are and try to move anti-English sentiment into anti-Tory sentiment, with you as the standard bearer. The target can’t be to win, but it can be to peel off 5-10% of the SNP vote.
From 1992 to 2010 every Labour leader was Scottish in one way or another.
And they won three general elections in that time.
From 1976 to 1992 every Labour leader was Welsh in one way or another.
And they lost four general elections in that time.
Is Starmer Welsh?
The English just can't cope with our brilliance, unless it's a genuine emergency.
You may have a point. Kinnock in particular embodies everything the English detest about the Welsh.
I watched it and don't think any voices were heard other than Starmer's and the narrator's, SNP desperation I am afraid after an abysmal day for Sturgeon
That is rather the point, there being only one substantive voice and it not being Scots. Mr Starmer obviously follows the Epping Way.
That put down of the China deal is damning, pointing out that the Commission is basically throwing away the diplomatic relationship with the US.
I think Juncker would have been much smarter on the vaccine programme, he would have let those four nations do loads of priority access deals with investment subsidies and such that expanded the European vaccine production base same as we have done, then once the first vaccine was approved he would have forced all four to hand them over to the commission and pay for it out of EU money. There would probably only be 1.5-1.7bn doses purchased but at the same time each of those deals would be for priority delivery and lots of additional investment in domestic manufacturing.
That strategy insulates the commission and EU from fucking it up and if those four nations succeed the commission say "unity and solidarity" for a while, stick EU branding on it and claim it as a success for the commission. If it fails then "health isn't an EU competence, clearly it should be" and say "more Europe" a lot.
I'm confident/hopeful that the vaccination drive will reduce deaths ultimately by more than the amount quoted - albeit with the a few weeks lag due to the gap between vaccination to protection. Regrettably lots of current infections and hospitalisations need to wind out to a conclusion one way or another.
But going forwards yes vaccinations should help protect the vaccinated individual against death, but they should also help build an element of herd immunity towards reducing the spread of the virus.
I suspect we're already seeing a factor of that with the vaccination of care and NHS workers who were unwitting superspreaders of the virus.
If the vaccine protects the vaccinated against death and protects others against spread then R should come down sustainably below 1.
So long as everyone gets their vaccine - and so long as we don't import a vaccine-resistant variant, which is why it should be mandatory hotel quarantines from now until when we can declare the pandemic over. Once lifted, never again for this pandemic should we have domestic restrictions as opposed to international ones.
That's our future? Panic induced fortress Britain afraid of its own shadow for ever?
FFS.
I find it interesting, after last year when many expectations were that this would be over quickly, that the vast majority of my friends now think it will be 'years' before we're back to normal. PB was recently very excited about the authoritarian idea of vaccine passports.
My feelings are that we'll be back to pretty much normal by July, possibly June, with the exception of holidays. And probably back to normal Europe-wide by next Christmas.
I'm hoping so, anyway, as I have an annual trip to Stuttgart scheduled for Jan 2022!
Alex Salmond's currently free, and doing more damage to the SNP than every WEstminster politician put together (which is still not much).
And Johnson of course would have no issues with hiring a depraved sex maniac with links to Putin and Trump who is obsessed with obscure points of nationalism based on delusions to the extreme detriment of his own country.
Not often I get the chance to troll Nats and Tories in the same post, I’m loving it.
I'm confident/hopeful that the vaccination drive will reduce deaths ultimately by more than the amount quoted - albeit with the a few weeks lag due to the gap between vaccination to protection. Regrettably lots of current infections and hospitalisations need to wind out to a conclusion one way or another.
But going forwards yes vaccinations should help protect the vaccinated individual against death, but they should also help build an element of herd immunity towards reducing the spread of the virus.
I suspect we're already seeing a factor of that with the vaccination of care and NHS workers who were unwitting superspreaders of the virus.
If the vaccine protects the vaccinated against death and protects others against spread then R should come down sustainably below 1.
So long as everyone gets their vaccine - and so long as we don't import a vaccine-resistant variant, which is why it should be mandatory hotel quarantines from now until when we can declare the pandemic over. Once lifted, never again for this pandemic should we have domestic restrictions as opposed to international ones.
That's our future? Panic induced fortress Britain afraid of its own shadow for ever?
FFS.
I find it interesting, after last year when many expectations were that this would be over quickly, that the vast majority of my friends now think it will be 'years' before we're back to normal. PB was recently very excited about the authoritarian idea of vaccine passports.
My feelings are that we'll be back to pretty much normal by July, possibly June, with the exception of holidays. And probably back to normal Europe-wide by next Christmas.
I'm hoping so, anyway, as I have an annual trip to Stuttgart scheduled for Jan 2022!
I think your perceived consensus is wrong (edit - just noticed I misread your post, apologies, ignore that bit!), but your expectations are fine.
Tier 3 - March Tier 2 - April Tier 1 - May/June < Tier 1 but some restrictions and continued guidance the rest of the year
Comments
My schoolfriend who lived in a blooming mansion, and drove a brand new car when we were in sixth form - his Dad was a self employed plumber, the accountant had his salary as tenpence ha'penny, so got a full grant.
The idea ANYONE unvaccinated isn't vulnerable is for the birds. If you're older or have a PEC you're particularly vulnerable but it really can knock anyone down.
"As we mentioned earlier, Israel's coronavirus vaccination programme is showing signs of working to drive down infections and illness in the over-60s.
Israeli Ministry of Health (MoH) figures show 531 over-60s, out of almost 750,000 fully vaccinated, tested positive for coronavirus (0.07%).
And far fewer fell ill, with 38 becoming needing hospital treatment with moderate, severe or critical disease.
There were three deaths in vaccinated over-60s - although it is possible they contracted the infection earlier, before their immunity had time to build.
Before the vaccine had time to take effect, more than 7,000 infections were recorded, just under 700 cases of moderate to critical illness and 307 deaths.
The MoH data suggests infections and illnesses fell consistently from 14 days after receiving the first jab onwards."
FFS.
Would you rather have another cycle of locking down domestically?
https://twitter.com/sparkyhamill/status/1356310901490675713?s=20
My 4 wishes for this year: (1) Husband gets fully better. (2) We all get vaccinated. (3) Insurance company pays out to Daughter under Business Interruption Clause following the Supreme Court ruling. (4) Sons get their jobs sorted. Yes - this is not really understood well enough. This virus is no joke for the young.
https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1356314648748953600
It was insult to all those who died and were wounded during Black Week.
Keeping up that statue is an insult to veterans.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41413-020-0084-5
They may well have summoning powers in extremis.
Either Sturgeon is phenomenally weak and this is the culmination of utter desperation orrrrrr the most popular politician in Scotland with broad support across the UK is flexing like a mother fucker.
I mean doesn't everybody?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redvers_Buller
You might as well stick up statues of Neville Chamberlain.
https://twitter.com/UKGovScotland/status/1356283814138568704?s=20
https://twitter.com/Record_Politics/status/1356251186509320193?s=20
Is this something to do with transphobia, or what?
Mr Hamilton: Will the Prime Minister initiate such discussions [for a statue in Palace of Westminster], because Mr. Chamberlain really has a claim on the affections of the House and the country as a pioneer in the public ownership of banking? If the right hon. Gentleman is ashamed of his association with the appeasement policy, does not he nevertheless consider that a suitable memorial to Mr. Chamberlain would be the continuation and extension of the principle of public ownership of the banking system?
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/1964-01-23/debates/b19be6a8-5aa4-487b-b352-0f680c0dca41/MrNevilleChamberlain(Statue)
I hope the Aberystwyth University have better selection criteria for their students than they do for their statues.
https://twitter.com/themajorityscot/status/1354882469175185411?s=20
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1356319378917240836?s=20
Unlike Westminster committees I believe Holyrood does have the power to define non attendance as a criminal offence.
https://twitter.com/AileenMcHarg/status/1356313358052552705?s=20
(Do they have conspiracy as a legal concept in Scottish law?)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-53580326
And they won three general elections in that time.
As @Philip_Thompson is fond of reminding us, the economy will adjust. Pity it will adjust downwards with all those businesses clobbered or shut altogether.
So I'm happy.
Then, say, a picture of Blair just saying he was a politician who did stuff. No logo. No "Labour"
It's actually quite sad. Edinburgh was one of the cradles of the Enlightenment.
(You're going to tell me she did her first degree at Aber now, aren't you?)
!w anything about the spring growth of white clover, she is the one to ask.
Edit: clover, not cover!
So many wonderful quotes in the Silmarillion. "...we have come through bliss to woe. The other now we will try: through sorrow to find joy; or freedom, at the least.
And they lost four general elections in that time.
Is Starmer Welsh?
'I know he's Scotch but this bloke's no bloody good, made me a laughing stock. is Kelvin McKenzie free?'
https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1356311297768509446?s=20
https://twitter.com/vonderburchard/status/1356313179375202305
https://twitter.com/vonderburchard/status/1356326082543296512
Seven centuries after the poet was found guilty in Florence, Sperello di Serego Alighieri has begun a campaign to clear his ancestor’s name"
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/feb/01/dante-descendant-seeks-to-overturn-poets-1302-corruption-conviction
https://twitter.com/john_actuary/status/1356273456107708416
Or...is that what they've always thought it meant given recent comments, and didn't realise China could do otherwise?
It all feels comfortably familiar. Like a big warm hug.
I think Juncker would have been much smarter on the vaccine programme, he would have let those four nations do loads of priority access deals with investment subsidies and such that expanded the European vaccine production base same as we have done, then once the first vaccine was approved he would have forced all four to hand them over to the commission and pay for it out of EU money. There would probably only be 1.5-1.7bn doses purchased but at the same time each of those deals would be for priority delivery and lots of additional investment in domestic manufacturing.
That strategy insulates the commission and EU from fucking it up and if those four nations succeed the commission say "unity and solidarity" for a while, stick EU branding on it and claim it as a success for the commission. If it fails then "health isn't an EU competence, clearly it should be" and say "more Europe" a lot.
My feelings are that we'll be back to pretty much normal by July, possibly June, with the exception of holidays. And probably back to normal Europe-wide by next Christmas.
I'm hoping so, anyway, as I have an annual trip to Stuttgart scheduled for Jan 2022!
And Johnson of course would have no issues with hiring a depraved sex maniac with links to Putin and Trump who is obsessed with obscure points of nationalism based on delusions to the extreme detriment of his own country.
Not often I get the chance to troll Nats and Tories in the same post, I’m loving it.
Tier 3 - March
Tier 2 - April
Tier 1 - May/June
< Tier 1 but some restrictions and continued guidance the rest of the year
International travel is harder to judge.