Bit of a stupid post as for some demographic groups there are many killer beans and for other demographic groups statistically zero.
So, here's a bag of jelly beans. If you have one, your granny has to have one too. And it has a one-in-ten chance of killing her.
Would you like the jelly bean?
Better?
To be fair that assumes contact.
Not enough people on here, or indeed in general, have recognised the sacrifices made by the young (who will also be paying for all this).
At worst my jelly bean tub has 10,000 jelly beans, of which 1 is bad, whereas I've lost 1.25% of my life, same maths goes for vast swathes of the population.
And if you say no to the jellybean, you have to stay indoors for a year while the country goes skint
The problem is not the 1:10,000, it is the 10:10,000 (or higher) that make you sick enough to need hospital. If everyone decides to risk a jelly bean at the same time then there might be no space for you. Unlucky!
If it was just death or nothing then there would definitely have been more eating than refusing.
There's a similar homage in Brazil. Involving a vacuum cleaner. Which also has DeNiro starring.
His finest role. I’m not a fan , but he was great in that. An extended cameo, rather than starring, which is probably why I liked it.
Yes. Michael Palin stars. Now there IS an underrated actor. If only he'd been Molotov or in GBH earlier. He'd be a highly respected thespian and knight of the realm. He could have done the fish slapping dance and a trip round the world to sing the lumberjack song with a previously undiscovered Amazon tribe, as some meta performance art in his dotage.
Bit of a stupid post as for some demographic groups there are many killer beans and for other demographic groups statistically zero.
So, here's a bag of jelly beans. If you have one, your granny has to have one too. And it has a one-in-ten chance of killing her.
Would you like the jelly bean?
Better?
To be fair that assumes contact.
Not enough people on here, or indeed in general, have recognised the sacrifices made by the young (who will also be paying for all this).
At worst my jelly bean tub has 10,000 jelly beans, of which 1 is bad, whereas I've lost 1.25% of my life, same maths goes for vast swathes of the population.
And if you say no to the jellybean, you have to stay indoors for a year while the country goes skint
That would be an excellent argument if places with no (or minimal) controls did better economically.
Places without controls end up either locking down anyway (see Sweden) or having de facto lockdowns as cases spiral out of control (Arizona in the summer, the Dakotas in December).
There's a similar homage in Brazil. Involving a vacuum cleaner. Which also has DeNiro starring.
His finest role. I’m not a fan , but he was great in that. An extended cameo, rather than starring, which is probably why I liked it.
Yes. Michael Palin stars. Now there IS an underrated actor. If only he'd been Molotov earlier. He could have done the fish slapping dance and a trip round the world to sing the lumberjack song with a previously undiscovered Amazon tribe, as some meta performance art in his dotage.
Maybe the real vaccination race is for the first company to get approval who can also actually produce their thing in extremely large numbers extremely quickly.
The government has been boasting about having millions ready to go for weeks. Now it emerges that it is short.
Pathetic.
Not receiving delivery is one thing that cannot be laid at their door, surely?
Sure it can. They are project managing it, they need be on top of it. It’s AZ’s failure, but the government cannot be held blameless.
No, the issue is that the government doesn't have the bandwidth to test the batches quickly. AZ have said that 4m doses are currently produced which means 3.5m are awaiting approval. That process needs to be scaled up by the MHRA so it can approve many more batches at the same time. That seems to be the supply related bottleneck, but I think the government is already ramping this part up.
That's the way things should be with project management. If it goes wrong on your watch, you're accountable, no excuses please.
Do you have a reference for the testing thing. Doesn't say a lot for AZ's quality control that the government is testing every batch, or is that the normal approach with vaccines?
As I understand it the vaccines have to sit on a shelf for three week to ensure they are sterile.
Is the sterility testing that
a) The batch has enough preservatives to have killed everything bad or b) The batch was not contaminated during manufacture
If b) surely they could sample a batch to check for fungus or bacteria DNA?
Or is it every single dose that has to be checked?
Going off my own personal experience in biopharm manufacturing, they will take a sample from every batch and wait for any bugs to grow. However of course you can't use any of the doses from that batch until you have waited the required time to see if the sample grows everything.
I think that's right, and that means the main limiting factor is time. The stuff is just sitting there waiting to be used.
Maybe the real vaccination race is for the first company to get approval who can also actually produce their thing in extremely large numbers extremely quickly.
The government has been boasting about having millions ready to go for weeks. Now it emerges that it is short.
Pathetic.
Not receiving delivery is one thing that cannot be laid at their door, surely?
I tried to have that conversation with Anabobazina a day or two ago. Save your breath. They are just posting the same complaints over and over now.
--AS
Except the government have allowed the impression to develop that they're done a brilliant shopping job and the UK is going to knock Brer Virus out of the park in time for us to all go and enjoy the Boat Race.
Meanwhile, our foolish neighbours will look on sadly and unvaccinated.
It was always going to be more complicated than that, but the impression has been allowed to develop.
So if it doesn't happen, the government is back in "Live by the sword, die by the sword" territory
Yes, I agree that the government has got the messaging wrong. Consistently so (except perhaps on testing there they were ridiculed for over-promising and actually pretty much got there).
I can't really understand why they keep making that mistake. It's clearly bad politics and bad tactics, but they keep falling into the same trap over and trap. It's pretty tragic really.
--AS
The problem is that no ramp up of anything, ever is without problems and hiccups
You target 10,000. On the first day, you manage 600 because of a whole bunch of sanfus.
Everyone thinks you are totally useless.
On day two, you manage 1,100. Still massively less than the target.
But you get better every single day. Problems are identified and solved. People are hired. People get better at their jobs. Processes are put in place.
This is the story of every ramp up ever (see Tesla's "production hell" with the Model 3).
The UK is now on a curve. There will be more vaccines, from more manufacturers, arriving every day. Remember: every day will be better than the last.
Sure, that's understood. I've been in much the same position myself with a paper to write to a deadline and hundreds of thousands of hours of computation to run before it can be submitted! Question is whether the government mucked up the comms, especially if the bottleneck is out of their control.
I'm a little skeptical of the additional manufacturers coming online soon: nobody seems to be saying when J&J could deliver doses, other than "mid 2021". I think I saw "H2 2021" for Novavax but might be misremembering. Modern is only a small order.
Is Fulton County gerrymandered? It's such a weird shape.
According to Wikipedia, it's a rare result (in US administration terms) of an evolutionary development, rather than being created that way from the beginning.
"At the beginning of 1932, as an austerity measure to save money during the Great Depression, Fulton County annexed Milton County to the north and Campbell County to the southwest, to centralize administration. That resulted in the current long shape of the county along 80 miles (130 km) of the Chattahoochee River. On May 9 of that year, neighboring Cobb County ceded the city of Roswell and lands lying east of Willeo Creek to Fulton County so that it would be more contiguous with the lands ceded from Milton County."
Maybe the real vaccination race is for the first company to get approval who can also actually produce their thing in extremely large numbers extremely quickly.
The government has been boasting about having millions ready to go for weeks. Now it emerges that it is short.
Pathetic.
Not receiving delivery is one thing that cannot be laid at their door, surely?
Sure it can. They are project managing it, they need be on top of it. It’s AZ’s failure, but the government cannot be held blameless.
No, the issue is that the government doesn't have the bandwidth to test the batches quickly. AZ have said that 4m doses are currently produced which means 3.5m are awaiting approval. That process needs to be scaled up by the MHRA so it can approve many more batches at the same time. That seems to be the supply related bottleneck, but I think the government is already ramping this part up.
That's the way things should be with project management. If it goes wrong on your watch, you're accountable, no excuses please.
Do you have a reference for the testing thing. Doesn't say a lot for AZ's quality control that the government is testing every batch, or is that the normal approach with vaccines?
As I understand it the vaccines have to sit on a shelf for three week to ensure they are sterile.
Is the sterility testing that
a) The batch has enough preservatives to have killed everything bad or b) The batch was not contaminated during manufacture
If b) surely they could sample a batch to check for fungus or bacteria DNA?
Or is it every single dose that has to be checked?
Going off my own personal experience in biopharm manufacturing, they will take a sample from every batch and wait for any bugs to grow. However of course you can't use any of the doses from that batch until you have waited the required time to see if the sample grows everything.
OK, so it will just be a sample. So in theory it could be checked for DNA but I've no idea how accurate that would be. Too sensitive, perhaps?
Maybe nobody has ever bothered to work out how to speed up the process because it has never been that critical. In normal circumstances sitting and watching it is pretty foolproof.
My gut is that these numbers look pretty good for the Dems. While Fulton is 22% in - and is a Dem stronghold - you've hardly seen any absentee ballots counted yet, and despite that Warnock and Ossoff seem to be doing pretty well.
Webster County is now 98% counted. And there's good news for the Republicans there - Perdue's margin is up four points on November!
Disclaimer: it's a tiny, rural county.
Believe that there are lots of absentee votes everywhere, that won't be counted until the today's in-person vote in counted. Think that the case anyway. Meaning that the "Webster 98% counted" means 98% of precincts counted.
My gut is that these numbers look pretty good for the Dems. While Fulton is 22% in - and is a Dem stronghold - you've hardly seen any absentee ballots counted yet, and despite that Warnock and Perdue seem to be doing pretty well.
I thought Democrats were supposed to be braced for it all looking terrible to start with? I assume the "terrible" will kick in when we're up to 25-30% of the vote counted which will be dominated by those small rural entities with none of the absentee ballots.
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
How does the exit poll cope with postal/early voters? Genuine question - maybe it's simply a normal poll but asking the sample how they voted, but "exit poll" tends to mean "ask people as they leave the polling booth.
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
As the vast majority of people voted by mail, I'm not sure how much you can read into that.
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
How does the exit poll cope with postal/early voters? Genuine question - maybe it's simply a normal poll but asking the sample how they voted, but "exit poll" tends to mean "ask people as they leave the polling booth.
According to the CNN website:
"The CNN exit poll was conducted by Edison Research for the National Election Pool, a consortium of CNN, ABC News, CBS News and NBC News. Interviews were completed with 5,260 voters in one of three ways: In-person on Election Day at 39 polling places across Georgia, in-person at 25 early voting locations around the state or by telephone for voters who cast ballots by mail or in-person during early voting. Results for the full sample of voters have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2 percentage points, it is larger for subgroups."
It says a lot about Brexit that Hannan, one of its chief cheerleaders, has buggered off at the first opportunity rather than stay to enjoy its “benefits”
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
As the vast majority of people voted by mail, I'm not sure how much you can read into that.
Surely the exit polls take mail voting into account? If the Election Day turnout was truly 48-47 GOP then the Dems would be on for a landslide
It says a lot about Brexit that Hannan, one of its chief cheerleaders, has buggered off at the first opportunity rather than stay to enjoy its “benefits”
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
How does the exit poll cope with postal/early voters? Genuine question - maybe it's simply a normal poll but asking the sample how they voted, but "exit poll" tends to mean "ask people as they leave the polling booth.
According to the CNN website:
"The CNN exit poll was conducted by Edison Research for the National Election Pool, a consortium of CNN, ABC News, CBS News and NBC News. Interviews were completed with 5,260 voters in one of three ways: In-person on Election Day at 39 polling places across Georgia, in-person at 25 early voting locations around the state or by telephone for voters who cast ballots by mail or in-person during early voting. Results for the full sample of voters have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2 percentage points, it is larger for subgroups."
I'd be quite sceptical of the accuracy of that, because it'll be very hard to get a grip on the correct level of turnout for mail in voting. What weight do you give it?
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
How does the exit poll cope with postal/early voters? Genuine question - maybe it's simply a normal poll but asking the sample how they voted, but "exit poll" tends to mean "ask people as they leave the polling booth.
Assume they must have done something. If it was just on-the-day voting you'd expect Trump to have a large lead.
Easy enough to cover early voting. It's the postal votes that will be hard.
Interesting that Warnock is running about .1% ahead of Ossoff.
Is that misogyny against Loeffler, black voters turning out for Warnock alone, ageism counting against the absurdly young Ossoff, or an ideological distinction I'm ignorant of?
Interesting that Warnock is running about .1% ahead of Ossoff.
Is that misogyny against Loeffler, black voters turning out for Warnock alone, ageism counting against the absurdly young Ossoff, or an ideological distinction I'm ignorant of?
I think it's the fact that Loeffler went campaigning with a klansman.
Interesting that Warnock is running about .1% ahead of Ossoff.
Yes, or to put it another way, Loeffler is running about 1% behind Perdue.
Some of the difference is from Black voters splitting their votes for Warnock & Loeffler, or Warnock and skip the other race.
BUT methinks that more is from White rightwingers who are voting for Purdue but skipping Loeffler, or even voting Warnock. Because they never wanted her in the first place (they voted for Collins in 2020 General) and don't want her now. Heck, some even think the election was stolen just so she'd prevail over the REAL conservative in the first round,
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
How does the exit poll cope with postal/early voters? Genuine question - maybe it's simply a normal poll but asking the sample how they voted, but "exit poll" tends to mean "ask people as they leave the polling booth.
According to the CNN website:
"The CNN exit poll was conducted by Edison Research for the National Election Pool, a consortium of CNN, ABC News, CBS News and NBC News. Interviews were completed with 5,260 voters in one of three ways: In-person on Election Day at 39 polling places across Georgia, in-person at 25 early voting locations around the state or by telephone for voters who cast ballots by mail or in-person during early voting. Results for the full sample of voters have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2 percentage points, it is larger for subgroups."
Interesting that Warnock is running about .1% ahead of Ossoff.
Is that misogyny against Loeffler, black voters turning out for Warnock alone, ageism counting against the absurdly young Ossoff, or an ideological distinction I'm ignorant of?
It's very hard to unpick, but actually you'd expect historically Perdue to do better than Loeffler as a "real" incumbent anyway. Appointed incumbents apparently don't get much benefit if any.
Exit poll has 48% of voters having voted for Trump and 47% for Biden in November, so at least based on the exit poll would be a slightly more GOP electorate than voted in the presidential election
How does the exit poll cope with postal/early voters? Genuine question - maybe it's simply a normal poll but asking the sample how they voted, but "exit poll" tends to mean "ask people as they leave the polling booth.
According to the CNN website:
"The CNN exit poll was conducted by Edison Research for the National Election Pool, a consortium of CNN, ABC News, CBS News and NBC News. Interviews were completed with 5,260 voters in one of three ways: In-person on Election Day at 39 polling places across Georgia, in-person at 25 early voting locations around the state or by telephone for voters who cast ballots by mail or in-person during early voting. Results for the full sample of voters have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2 percentage points, it is larger for subgroups."
I'd be quite sceptical of the accuracy of that, because it'll be very hard to get a grip on the correct level of turnout for mail in voting. What weight do you give it?
From the voter file, can tell IF a voter who requested absentee in 2020 General actually returned it or not. And my guess is that the absentee return rate was pretty high for the general, and will be again for the runoff.
Also, absentees in GA have to be in by EDay to be counted (I think) so pollsters would know abs voters who already returned ballots as of few days ago, and of course same for in-person Early Voting.
Interesting that Warnock is running about .1% ahead of Ossoff.
Is that misogyny against Loeffler, black voters turning out for Warnock alone, ageism counting against the absurdly young Ossoff, or an ideological distinction I'm ignorant of?
Currently looks almost identical. Someone is bound to be slightly ahead but when it's that close I think you have to conclude that 985+ are simply voting the party line. The gulf between the candidates on each side and the expected impact is enormous.
Bit of a stupid post as for some demographic groups there are many killer beans and for other demographic groups statistically zero.
So, here's a bag of jelly beans. If you have one, your granny has to have one too. And it has a one-in-ten chance of killing her.
Would you like the jelly bean?
Better?
To be fair that assumes contact.
Not enough people on here, or indeed in general, have recognised the sacrifices made by the young (who will also be paying for all this).
At worst my jelly bean tub has 10,000 jelly beans, of which 1 is bad, whereas I've lost 1.25% of my life, same maths goes for vast swathes of the population.
And if you say no to the jellybean, you have to stay indoors for a year while the country goes skint
Yeah that's exactly my point, for a good 50% of the population eating the jellybean is the optimal course of action
So far number total number of votes reported for both races look pretty similar, so no evidence that lots of voters are skipping one race or the other.
Ticket splitting (just under 5k) so far is net gain for Perdue (and Warnock) as opposed to Loeffler (and Ossoff).
lol Pence just told Trump he's not going to try and chuck him the election
Someone needs to come along and totally reform how elections are done in the US. Get rid of this ridiculous two months between election and the handover.
Interesting that Warnock is running about .1% ahead of Ossoff.
Is that misogyny against Loeffler, black voters turning out for Warnock alone, ageism counting against the absurdly young Ossoff, or an ideological distinction I'm ignorant of?
Currently looks almost identical. Someone is bound to be slightly ahead but when it's that close I think you have to conclude that 985+ are simply voting the party line. The gulf between the candidates on each side and the expected impact is enormous.
"Almost" identical is quite important in a close race. One in two hundred voting for Perdue (half a percent) but not Loeffler could very easily mean he's elected and she loses.
Interesting that Warnock is running about .1% ahead of Ossoff.
Is that misogyny against Loeffler, black voters turning out for Warnock alone, ageism counting against the absurdly young Ossoff, or an ideological distinction I'm ignorant of?
Currently looks almost identical. Someone is bound to be slightly ahead but when it's that close I think you have to conclude that 985+ are simply voting the party line. The gulf between the candidates on each side and the expected impact is enormous.
"Almost" identical is quite important in a close race. One in two hundred voting for Perdue (half a percent) but not Loeffler could very easily mean he's elected and she loses.
True.
Does the Georgia "you must have over 50% of the votes to win" rule apply to these elections too, and if some ballots are spoiled or blank, could that mean one of the races has to be rerun?
Interesting that Warnock is running about .1% ahead of Ossoff.
Is that misogyny against Loeffler, black voters turning out for Warnock alone, ageism counting against the absurdly young Ossoff, or an ideological distinction I'm ignorant of?
Currently looks almost identical. Someone is bound to be slightly ahead but when it's that close I think you have to conclude that 985+ are simply voting the party line. The gulf between the candidates on each side and the expected impact is enormous.
"Almost" identical is quite important in a close race. One in two hundred voting for Perdue (half a percent) but not Loeffler could very easily mean he's elected and she loses.
In the Perdue versus Loeffler "race" Perdue has always been ahead. Note he came in first in his race in November, just short of an outright majority, while in her race Loeffler came in second, narrowly defeating the third-place Republican who was the rightwing heartthrob. Indeed, she appointed because Gov Kemp thought a (more ) moderate GOPer had better chance of holding the seat.
Interesting that Warnock is running about .1% ahead of Ossoff.
Is that misogyny against Loeffler, black voters turning out for Warnock alone, ageism counting against the absurdly young Ossoff, or an ideological distinction I'm ignorant of?
Currently looks almost identical. Someone is bound to be slightly ahead but when it's that close I think you have to conclude that 985+ are simply voting the party line. The gulf between the candidates on each side and the expected impact is enormous.
"Almost" identical is quite important in a close race. One in two hundred voting for Perdue (half a percent) but not Loeffler could very easily mean he's elected and she loses.
True.
Does the Georgia "you must have over 50% of the votes to win" rule apply to these elections too, and if some ballots are spoiled or blank, could that mean one of the races has to be rerun?
NYT is reporting that in Fulton Co (Atlanta) 82% of "estimated votes" is reported. Do NOT think this included absentees, but don't really know. It IS a much higher % than statewide which is at 41% of estimated
NYT is reporting that in Fulton Co (Atlanta) 82% of "estimated votes" is reported. Do NOT think this included absentees, but don't really know. It IS a much higher % than statewide which is at 41% of estimated
Ossoff currently has 272,151 votes in from Fulton County which includes Atlanta, Biden got 381,144 votes from Fulton in November so it seems most of the Atlanta votes are now in
Still a number of GA counties that have not yet reported any votes tonight. However, looks like the biggest pool of uncounted is now concentrated in suburban Atlanta; city count much further along, and still a LOT of votes left in the Cracker hinterland.
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If it was just death or nothing then there would definitely have been more eating than refusing.
Ossoff and Warnock take early leads...
If only he'd been Molotov or in GBH earlier. He'd be a highly respected thespian and knight of the realm.
He could have done the fish slapping dance and a trip round the world to sing the lumberjack song with a previously undiscovered Amazon tribe, as some meta performance art in his dotage.
Places without controls end up either locking down anyway (see Sweden) or having de facto lockdowns as cases spiral out of control (Arizona in the summer, the Dakotas in December).
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1346525695879614467
Perdue 69%
Ossoff 30%
Special election
Loeffler 55%
Warnock 45%
https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/georgia/senate-runoff-map-perdue-ossoff-20210105/
I'm a little skeptical of the additional manufacturers coming online soon: nobody seems to be saying when J&J could deliver doses, other than "mid 2021". I think I saw "H2 2021" for Novavax but might be misremembering. Modern is only a small order.
--AS
"At the beginning of 1932, as an austerity measure to save money during the Great Depression, Fulton County annexed Milton County to the north and Campbell County to the southwest, to centralize administration. That resulted in the current long shape of the county along 80 miles (130 km) of the Chattahoochee River. On May 9 of that year, neighboring Cobb County ceded the city of Roswell and lands lying east of Willeo Creek to Fulton County so that it would be more contiguous with the lands ceded from Milton County."
Happens all the time over here.
But seldom over there.
Disclaimer: it's a tiny, rural county.
https://www.cbsnews.com/live/
Perdue won 54% of men, Ossoff won 54% of women
Maybe nobody has ever bothered to work out how to speed up the process because it has never been that critical. In normal circumstances sitting and watching it is pretty foolproof.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/05/us/elections/forecast-georgia-senate-runoff.html?action=click&module=ELEX_results&pgtype=Interactive®ion=Component
BUT "flourishing" is NOT exactly the right word for a place that ranks at the bottom of the human development index among US states.
(Disclaimer: not a single vote from DeKalb is in yet.)
"The CNN exit poll was conducted by Edison Research for the National Election Pool, a consortium of CNN, ABC News, CBS News and NBC News. Interviews were completed with 5,260 voters in one of three ways: In-person on Election Day at 39 polling places across Georgia, in-person at 25 early voting locations around the state or by telephone for voters who cast ballots by mail or in-person during early voting. Results for the full sample of voters have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2 percentage points, it is larger for subgroups."
Easy enough to cover early voting. It's the postal votes that will be hard.
Ossoff 57% Perdue 43%
Special election 8% in
Warnock 57% Loeffler 43%
Some of the difference is from Black voters splitting their votes for Warnock & Loeffler, or Warnock and skip the other race.
BUT methinks that more is from White rightwingers who are voting for Purdue but skipping Loeffler, or even voting Warnock. Because they never wanted her in the first place (they voted for Collins in 2020 General) and don't want her now. Heck, some even think the election was stolen just so she'd prevail over the REAL conservative in the first round,
We don't know the mix so hard to interpret.
The needle is a better indicator.
Also, absentees in GA have to be in by EDay to be counted (I think) so pollsters would know abs voters who already returned ballots as of few days ago, and of course same for in-person Early Voting.
Needle still slowly trending blue for both races
Ossoff 52.7%
Purdue 47.3%
Warnock 53.2%
Loeffler 46.8%
Ticket splitting (just under 5k) so far is net gain for Perdue (and Warnock) as opposed to Loeffler (and Ossoff).
Does the Georgia "you must have over 50% of the votes to win" rule apply to these elections too, and if some ballots are spoiled or blank, could that mean one of the races has to be rerun?
Sorry - downmarket quip.