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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 62,668

    rcs1000 said:

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    Selebian said:

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    IshmaelZ said:

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    IanB2 said:

    The Competition & Markets Authority is taking a gander at the electric car charging sector.
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-to-examine-electric-vehicle-charging-sector

    I could save them some money here, after looking at a couple of Youtube car reviews. Charging at home is fine, provided you've got off-street parking. Charging at service stations and the like is a mess of incompatible plugs and badly-designed phone apps, so if you want to drive more than a hundred miles in any direction, go no greener than a hybrid. Or buy a Tesla, who have invested in nationwide fast chargers.

    I should have been GQ's motoring correspondent. :wink:

    Lol. My brother bought a Tesla but it’s still a hassle for longer journeys. Last Xmas he turned up in his son’s beat up second hand car, because it was easier.
    Of course.

    There are tens of thousands of petrol stations, but only hundreds of fast chargers.

    In three years time, those numbers will look very different.
    https://amp.theguardian.com/money/2020/nov/28/electric-cars-porsche-charging-network

    ‘Why did it take nine hours to go 130 miles in our new electric Porsche?’

    With Brexit n covid 3 years looks optimistic, and pure electric is never going to achieve the refuelling speed and ease of petrol. And people will hate it. Look how transformative the invention of the TV remote was, and electric cars introduce thousands of times the inconvenience that remotes eliminated.
    It’ll be the queues. If you get to a petrol station and there’s a queue, it’s irritating, but also rare and rarely long, and the actual act of fuelling you’re doing yourself, so it doesn’t feel like you’re waiting for anything. Having to join a queue waiting for a charging point, everyone sitting looking at the car in front while nothing appears to be happening, will be seriously annoying in today’s instant society.
    The UK has pretty poor non-Tesla electric charging infrastructure. The US is much better.
    Didn't VW have to cough up for a big electric charger investment as settlement in the diesel scandal? Should have done something similar here/across EU. Or is that not as substantial as it's sometimes made to sound?
    The EU should have insisted on something similar. But it's not clear they have the power to do so.
    The problem, a while back was that the other vehicle manufacturers were absolutely adamant that they wouldn't use a Tesla compatible system. So they carefully locked themselves out of the largest fast network.
    Tesla wanted a licensing fee. Other vehicle manufacturers baulked.

    And so there is:

    Tesla
    &
    Not Tesla

    Just as with smartphones there is;

    Apple*
    &
    Not Apple

    * Except for the increasing number of Apple devices using USB C
    Tesla has the excuse that there was no fast, smart charging standard when they came along. They *had* to roll their own.

    Sane would have been for the other manufacturers to admit they were late to the fast charger market. Adopt the existing standard, build out their own chargers to a common standard and go from there.
    Tesla are designing a new small car in Germany next year for the European market.
    Depending on how quickly they can get the planned new battery production working, they could be building over a million cars a year in Europe before 2025.
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    gealbhangealbhan Posts: 2,362

    This may be a silly question, but can't we just turn the testing centres into vaccination centres and just get on with it? It's only sticking a needle in someone and pressing - diabetics do it all the time.

    The army charge at sand bags with bayonets so won’t require further training.

    Your the lucky guy who agreed with Trump about drinking domestos aren’t you?
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    malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 42,015
    DavidL said:

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    DavidL said:

    How many million doses of Pfizer do we have bought?

    Ten million units before Christmas, thirty million after that.
    If we can 10m of the most vulnerable people vaccinated by Christmas our heated debates about whether we could or should relax regulations then are going to look very silly. That would be an incredible logistical achievement and an absolute game changer.
    Not much chance of that though David, even with clever people who were efficient that would be near impossible given it is two jags at minimum 2 weeks apart. Going by past performance I do not see this lot of bumbling idiots being super efficient and given they will have lots of their pals cashing in who knows who will eb involved.
    More likely it will be in the hundreds of thousands but that is still an incredible achievement and will save many lives over the Christmas period. I know your reluctant to give credit to them for anything but the UK government's swift action in entering pre approval contracts with the vaccine makers will save the lives of thousands of Scots.
    One thing they certainly appear to have got correct for sure. I do hope they also succeed with rollout as well even if skeptical, and same for Scottish government.
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