Is it me, or is Boris usually good/competent tonight?
Better than usual - but I can't shake the feeling that after this he's going to go upstairs, order a pizza and start watching a box set - leaving the boxes "for later".....
It's amazing how many arguments, on all sorts of topics, aren't about the destination or even the path but where we are now. Are there people advocating for lockdown continuing after "it is safely possible [to end it] and reduce the damage to businesses and people's wellbeing"? That's not the disagreement. The disagreement is what 'It is safely possible to end lockdown' means and whether or not we are at/very near that stage right now.
Is it me, or is Boris usually good/competent tonight?
He has his moments. Unfortunately, to be PM, you need to be like this 80-90% of the time, not 10-20% of the time.
We've just gone from global gloom without end to a distinct ray of light on the horizon. Boris has always been a lucky general, and this news has come just in time to propel him back into the fray. By next Spring, he'll be riding a wave of genuine national optimism, and speaking personally, I can't wait.
Say not the struggle nought availeth, The labour and the wounds are vain, The enemy faints not, nor faileth, And as things have been they remain.
If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars; It may be, in yon smoke concealed, Your comrades chase e'en now the fliers, And, but for you, possess the field.
For while the tired waves, vainly breaking Seem here no painful inch to gain, Far back through creeks and inlets making, Comes silent, flooding in, the main.
And not by eastern windows only, When daylight comes, comes in the light, In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly, But westward, look, the land is bright!
Is it me, or is Boris usually good/competent tonight?
Yes. I am convinced he suffers long covid. Start of the week, 30 mins, upbeat news to report, he is ok. I bet by Wednesday, he will be low energy again, and getting a duffing up by Starmer.
Anytime he has to do more than 30 mins, especially after obviously had a busy day, you see him go downhill rapidly.
And of course peak performance Boris wasn't exactly known as stellar details man.
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
Is it me, or is Boris usually good/competent tonight?
He has his moments. Unfortunately, to be PM, you need to be like this 80-90% of the time, not 10-20% of the time.
There might be chinks of light for Boris
Vaccine on the horizon
Shares climate change views with Joe Biden and international security
Deal with the EU probable
I remain sceptical about his medium term chances of holding onto his Premiership but I doubt he is going to quickly hand over the keys
Yes, and if all those things happen they will have had next to nothing to do with him. You can't claim helplessness over events, totally mismanage and screw up those events, and then claim success when others make them go away - although he will certainly try.
He might use a sigh of relief to try and stay in office next year. That would be a huge mistake. He's totally unqualified to deliver the social and economic repairs this country needs. If he does the ongoing damage he'll do to the country, and the Conservative Party, will continue, possibly all the way to GE2024.
The window to turf him out and replace him with a competent PM must not be shirked. Or we'll be out-of-office for decades.
Appreciate everyone is bored to tears with the endless indy-blah emanating from north of the border.
But this is actually pretty sensational. Sturgeon clearly seems to made the regulations on harassment retrospective to ensnare Salmond and torpedo his chances of effecting a political resurrection.
It's incendiary and if it wasn't for Trump/Biden and Covid would be dominating the news schedules.
It's not ideal for any American president to get on the wrong side of John Redwood, this is true, but Joe is tough old boot. I remember during the campaign he felt the sharp end of Iain Duncan Smith's tongue and he managed to ride that storm.
Looking at Redwood and Duncan Smith, it's interesting that two men ostensibly at opposite ends of the intelligence spectrum have ended up espousing such similar views. You might have thought it would have given Redwood at least some pause for thought.
Redwood has a History BA and phd from Oxford and is a fellow of All Souls, headed Thatcher's policy unit and set up an investment business and was executive chairman of an industrial PLC, he had a formidable CV even before entering politics but while IDS may not have as stellar a CV both of them have been close since they were Maastricht rebels during Major's premiership
Are you sure about the PhD? Oxford awards DPhils...
They also award Masters without any study but yes if you want to be technical he has a DPhil which 'investigated the fear of atheism in England, from the Restoration to the publication of Alciphron' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Redwood
Master of Arts, please. My chums who teach degrees such as MScOxon and MEd would be very unhappy to hear you.
Which agency in the USA ,would enforce Trump leaving the Whitehouse ,if he refuses to leave in January 21 ?
Secret Service would seem technically responsible, as they would have a duty to ensure Biden could operate as President from wherever he wanted to work. In practice suspect top military officials making clear in public or private that they would not longer follow his orders would also be involved.
Is it me, or is Boris usually good/competent tonight?
He has his moments. Unfortunately, to be PM, you need to be like this 80-90% of the time, not 10-20% of the time.
There might be chinks of light for Boris
Vaccine on the horizon
Shares climate change views with Joe Biden and international security
Deal with the EU probable
I remain sceptical about his medium term chances of holding onto his Premiership but I doubt he is going to quickly hand over the keys
Yes, and if all those things happen they will have had next to nothing to do with him. You can't claim helplessness over events, totally mismanage and screw up those events, and then claim success when others make them go away - although he will certainly try.
He might use a sigh of relief to try and stay in office next year. That would be a huge mistake. He's totally unqualified to deliver the social and economic repairs this country needs. If he does the ongoing damage he'll do to the country, and the Conservative Party, will continue, possibly all the way to GE2024.
The window to turf him out and replace him with a competent PM must not be shirked. Or we'll be out-of-office for decades.
I do not disagree but I was only suggesting he may be harder to replace if events move in a positive direction, no matter his actual input
Is it me, or is Boris usually good/competent tonight?
He has his moments. Unfortunately, to be PM, you need to be like this 80-90% of the time, not 10-20% of the time.
We've just gone from global gloom without end to a distinct ray of light on the horizon. Boris has always been a lucky general, and this news has come just in time to propel him back into the fray. By next Spring, he'll be riding a wave of genuine national optimism, and speaking personally, I can't wait.
Say not the struggle nought availeth, The labour and the wounds are vain, The enemy faints not, nor faileth, And as things have been they remain.
If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars; It may be, in yon smoke concealed, Your comrades chase e'en now the fliers, And, but for you, possess the field.
For while the tired waves, vainly breaking Seem here no painful inch to gain, Far back through creeks and inlets making, Comes silent, flooding in, the main.
And not by eastern windows only, When daylight comes, comes in the light, In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly, But westward, look, the land is bright!
He will still spout bollocks whilst taking credit for anything successful
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
Sadly, that is an accurate account and not a parody.
Is it me, or is Boris usually good/competent tonight?
He has his moments. Unfortunately, to be PM, you need to be like this 80-90% of the time, not 10-20% of the time.
We've just gone from global gloom without end to a distinct ray of light on the horizon. Boris has always been a lucky general, and this news has come just in time to propel him back into the fray. By next Spring, he'll be riding a wave of genuine national optimism, and speaking personally, I can't wait.
Say not the struggle nought availeth, The labour and the wounds are vain, The enemy faints not, nor faileth, And as things have been they remain.
If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars; It may be, in yon smoke concealed, Your comrades chase e'en now the fliers, And, but for you, possess the field.
For while the tired waves, vainly breaking Seem here no painful inch to gain, Far back through creeks and inlets making, Comes silent, flooding in, the main.
And not by eastern windows only, When daylight comes, comes in the light, In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly, But westward, look, the land is bright!
So, you want the Union destroyed and us out-of-office for decades then?
What part of him being totally useless and unfit for the job aren't you seeing?
Possibly, Sarkozy of course tried to run for the Les Republicains nomination for the 2017 French presidential election after losing his re election fight in 2012 however in the end he was beaten by his own PM Fillon who lost to Macron (and is now in jail).
Which suggests Trump could be beaten for the GOP nomination by Pence even if he does run again in 2024 though the Democrats would likely hold the White House anyway
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
Never mind settling the 2020 presidential market, get the 2024 market open!
I kind of expected this, despite losing this time he won the second most votes ever, and Trumpism isnt going away. The GOP know he has the ability to stir the masses again, so even if many of them can't stand the man, I can see them backing him heavily if he decides to run again, His popularity was what helped them do well in both the Senate and House races this time.
I’ve been crunching numbers on Alaska: if Biden got 64% to Trump’s 36% of the remaining vote to be counted he squeaks the state (assuming roughly 4% continue to go to other)
As Biden has been doing better in postal votes is this worth a punt? (I’m sorry if this has been discussed already and discounted)
I assume (but don't know) that that % is as a proportion of the total Alaska mail in ballots outstanding, whereas the number returned will be less in practice. So Biden's target % is going to be significantly higher than 64%. They will know the total only when the deadline is reached. I wouldn't touch a bet against Biden with a bargepole at the best odds of 6/1 on offer, although I would DYOR to confirm my assumption.
The 7/1 on Trump in Arizona looks better value, although I think that the Democrats should be favorites to win based on the way Trump seems to be falling slightly short on the batches added recently. Arizona, in contrast to Alaska, doesn't yet seem a done deal. But I wouldn't put money on Trump out of principle - some things are beyond the Pale.
I don't think either is good value.
Alaska would involve Biden overcoming a margin of nearly 15% in 2016, which he's not come close to elsewhere.
In Arizona, Trump is running out of batches of uncounted votes, and we've had enough to say he's consistently short of what he requires (not by miles but the consistency is doing for him and it's probably slipped away).
The value at the moment is taking small amounts off people who are delusional and think there's a twist in the tale that just isn't coming.
I'm not doing any more betting on WH2020 but if I was I'd keep it simple and pile on Biden to win the election at 1.06.
They say if only you could gamble on something already knowing the result it would not be gambling.
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
Spot on. I would only add that Hillary Clinton is the Head Cannibalistic Paedophile and that she enjoys a pizza now and again.
Sadly, QAnon is simultaneously barking mad and very dangerous.
Appreciate everyone is bored to tears with the endless indy-blah emanating from north of the border.
But this is actually pretty sensational. Sturgeon clearly seems to made the regulations on harassment retrospective to ensnare Salmond and torpedo his chances of effecting a political resurrection.
It's incendiary and if it wasn't for Trump/Biden and Covid would be dominating the news schedules.
Can't read the article (paywall) - buit the retrospectivityt bit is not new at all. Been known for ages. Does it say when the policy itself was actually formulated? IIRC it was developed some time before, so signing off would have been ast the very end of the gestation period.
Which agency in the USA ,would enforce Trump leaving the Whitehouse ,if he refuses to leave in January 21 ?
Secret Service would seem technically responsible, as they would have a duty to ensure Biden could operate as President from wherever he wanted to work. In practice suspect top military officials making clear in public or private that they would not longer follow his orders would also be involved.
The US Secret Service.
I'm honestly not worried about this. He's escorted everywhere anyway, and probably doesn't have "the keys" to the White House, or most of the other key federal institutions. He has the right to go in and out until 20th January 2021 and, if he doesn't, he'll simply be asked to leave and removed if he doesn't - in an undignified way through the back door if needs be.
I thought that was a great speech by Biden on Covid. Just watched it. At last they have got a proper president.
I think it is more just how far the Overton window has shifted, that when a life long politician comes along and says sensible words in the right order, it looks Churchillian.
Watching Obama on the campaign trail, now there is somebody who can do the speaking lark. Less impressive on the doing.
Is it me, or is Boris usually good/competent tonight?
He has his moments. Unfortunately, to be PM, you need to be like this 80-90% of the time, not 10-20% of the time.
We've just gone from global gloom without end to a distinct ray of light on the horizon. Boris has always been a lucky general, and this news has come just in time to propel him back into the fray. By next Spring, he'll be riding a wave of genuine national optimism, and speaking personally, I can't wait.
Say not the struggle nought availeth, The labour and the wounds are vain, The enemy faints not, nor faileth, And as things have been they remain.
If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars; It may be, in yon smoke concealed, Your comrades chase e'en now the fliers, And, but for you, possess the field.
For while the tired waves, vainly breaking Seem here no painful inch to gain, Far back through creeks and inlets making, Comes silent, flooding in, the main.
And not by eastern windows only, When daylight comes, comes in the light, In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly, But westward, look, the land is bright!
So, you want the Union destroyed and us out-of-office for decades then?
What part of him being totally useless and unfit for the job aren't you seeing?
Well, I don't expect the Union to be destroyed, since Boris will block another IndyRef for this Parliament; he would do the same in the next Parliament if re-elected, and if not then a PM Starmer would likely win such a referendum. If the Union were destroyed, of course, that would give the Tories a permanent electoral advantage equivalent to possessing an extra 20-30 seats, and so being out of office for decades also looks unlikely.
Most of Boris' 11 months since the election have been taken up with this accursed pandemic, of which most leaders around the world have made a greater or lesser hash. I think he deserves at least a few more years to show what he can do without it, and if he's deep underwater by the end of 2023, a new leader can then be installed to fight the next GE during their honeymoon.
Et voilà! The catastrophe is neither as near nor as likely as you fear.
(Yes, I know that it's about a likely as one of our posters being related to President Trump).
You do know one of us actually is?
I suppose all of us are if you go back far enough.
No, one of us really isn't that distant. One of the Scottosh posters on PB. I'll let the poster speak for self should he/she so wish. Edit: for one thing, memory is not clear, and so I'm not 100% sure of who/how.
I thought that was a great speech by Biden on Covid. Just watched it. At last they have got a proper president.
I think it is more just how far the Overton window has shifted, that when a life long politician cones along and says sensible words in the right order, it looks Churchillian.
Watching Obama on the campaign trail, now there is somebody who can do the speaking lark. Less impressive on the doing.
There was a clip from last week's Last Week Tonight With John Oliver where Obama talked a future pandemic which was exactly like Covid-19, it really hit home how easily Covid-19 could have been mitigated in American and the world.
Doesn't this imply he may be mentally prepared to lose/concede?
Here's a thought, Trump is running in 2024 so he won't be investigated/charged.
Would Joe Biden's government really investigate/prosecute a potential challenger?
Depends on what offence(s).
I suspect Biden might be willing to issue a pardon (although not quickly) in relation to federal offences as part of his "uniting the country" vibe.
But if New York want to prosecute Citizen Trump for fraud under state law - and it looks a lot like they do and others may - it's simply not within Biden's gift.
Redwood has a History BA and phd from Oxford and is a fellow of All Souls, headed Thatcher's policy unit and set up an investment business and was executive chairman of an industrial PLC, he had a formidable CV even before entering politics but while IDS may not have as stellar a CV both of them have been close since they were Maastricht rebels during Major's premiership
Are you sure about the PhD? Oxford awards DPhils...
They also award Masters without any study but yes if you want to be technical he has a DPhil which 'investigated the fear of atheism in England, from the Restoration to the publication of Alciphron' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Redwood
Master of Arts, please. My chums who teach degrees such as MScOxon and MEd would be very unhappy to hear you.
Oxford has bowed to market forces and now awards its advanced degrees (and its 4-year first degrees) at Masters level. In the old days, BA was the first degree (upgraded to fake MA) and advanced degrees would be Bachelor of Something. For instance Sir Keir Starmer's BCL and Dudley Moore's BMus (about time an organist was mentioned on pb) are really Masters degrees.
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
It's not really accurate to say "the Liberal establishment" as a key tenet of the QAnon beliefs, and much contemporary conspiricism, is that the deep state encompasses both parties and so the executive, no matter who is in power, is a puppet of the deep state.
QAnon followers believe that Trump — an outsider, a non-politician as they see him — broke the mold, and had to overcome the GOP establishment every bit as much as he defeated the Democratic candidate.
Appreciate everyone is bored to tears with the endless indy-blah emanating from north of the border.
But this is actually pretty sensational. Sturgeon clearly seems to made the regulations on harassment retrospective to ensnare Salmond and torpedo his chances of effecting a political resurrection.
It's incendiary and if it wasn't for Trump/Biden and Covid would be dominating the news schedules.
Can't read the article (paywall) - buit the retrospectivityt bit is not new at all. Been known for ages. Does it say when the policy itself was actually formulated? IIRC it was developed some time before, so signing off would have been ast the very end of the gestation period.
This is from the report:
"NICOLA Sturgeon demanded a new harassment policy should apply to former ministers just 48 hours after one of Alex Salmond’s accusers made a secret “disclosure” to her private office.
"The First Minister’s private secretary received the sensitive information from a female civil servant who later filed a misconduct complaint against Mr Salmond."
I thought that was a great speech by Biden on Covid. Just watched it. At last they have got a proper president.
I think it is more just how far the Overton window has shifted, that when a life long politician cones along and says sensible words in the right order, it looks Churchillian.
Watching Obama on the campaign trail, now there is somebody who can do the speaking lark. Less impressive on the doing.
There was a clip from last week's Last Week Tonight With John Oliver where Obama talked a future pandemic which was exactly like Covid-19, it really hit home how easily Covid-19 could have been mitigated in American and the world.
Well of course Bill Gates gave the now infamous TED talk about this and how the US should have various sysyems in place.... obviously now the QAnon anti-vaxxer lot use that to claim he is behind all of this.
Perhaps with Jnr as running mate. A wet dream ticket for millions of the "shoeless ones" in rural and left behind America. The Trump, the whole Trump, and nothing but the Trump. Got to be a possible scenario. Talk about doubling down!
Joe Biden is seeking to bring people together and that can only happen when people stop point scoring
It's been a week since the election and a few days since Biden was projected as the winner to the standards of the media. I absolutely agree about ending division and point scoring and all that good stuff, but I think his supporters can have a few days lack of graciousness in victory without it defining them.
Doesn't this imply he may be mentally prepared to lose/concede?
Here's a thought, Trump is running in 2024 so he won't be investigated/charged.
Would Joe Biden's government really investigate/prosecute a potential challenger?
Depends on what.
I suspect Biden might be willing to issue a pardon (although not quickly) in relation to federal offences as part of his "uniting the country" vibe.
But if New York want to prosecute Citizen Trump for fraud under state law - and it looks a lot like they do and others may - it's simply not within Biden's gift.
There is no reason a wider amnesty or pardon cannot be negotiated. It is not just for unity or to protect the dignity of the White House but also to avoid fuelling the state propaganda of authoritarian regimes around the world. The counter-argument is that if every rogue President (Nixon and now Trump) can expect a pardon, what is to restrain them? But I'd not be betting on President Trump seeing the inside of a prison cell.
I think Trumps reaction makes it much easier for the authorities to investigate him. If he loses and goes sounding responsible, close hard fought election, proud of my campaign, but Biden has won and i wish him the best...then they investigate, it looks really political.
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
Joe Biden is seeking to bring people together and that can only happen when people stop point scoring
It's been a week since the election and a few days since Biden was projected as the winner to the standards of the media. I absolutely agree about ending division and point scoring and all that good stuff, but I think his supporters can have a few days lack of graciousness in victory without it defining them.
Doesn't this imply he may be mentally prepared to lose/concede?
Here's a thought, Trump is running in 2024 so he won't be investigated/charged.
Would Joe Biden's government really investigate/prosecute a potential challenger?
Depends on what offence(s).
I suspect Biden might be willing to issue a pardon (although not quickly) in relation to federal offences as part of his "uniting the country" vibe.
But if New York want to prosecute Citizen Trump for fraud under state law - and it looks a lot like they do and others may - it's simply not within Biden's gift.
Can't see a pardon being issued. Trump isn't humble enough to ask for one, nor would he offer the necessary comprises (like 'I will feck off now and keep quiet'.) Biden for his part would not be willing to offer him one without huge concessions from him. The antipathy is genuine.
Doesn't this imply he may be mentally prepared to lose/concede?
Here's a thought, Trump is running in 2024 so he won't be investigated/charged.
Would Joe Biden's government really investigate/prosecute a potential challenger?
Depends on what.
I suspect Biden might be willing to issue a pardon (although not quickly) in relation to federal offences as part of his "uniting the country" vibe.
But if New York want to prosecute Citizen Trump for fraud under state law - and it looks a lot like they do and others may - it's simply not within Biden's gift.
There is no reason a wider amnesty or pardon cannot be negotiated. It is not just for unity or to protect the dignity of the White House but also to avoid fuelling the state propaganda of authoritarian regimes around the world. The counter-argument is that if every rogue President (Nixon and now Trump) can expect a pardon, what is to restrain them? But I'd not be betting on President Trump seeing the inside of a prison cell.
Also, remember in the US, for the rich, there is always a deal to be done when it come to crimes, especially if it in regards to stretching to elastic to the limit on your tax affairs.
I am sure that Kamala Harris, as the first ever non-white Vice President, agrees Black Lives Matter.
Targeting her, therefore, or her boss who helped elevate her to that office, is stupid. So stupid you have to wonder if these supposed anarchists were Klansmen under a false flag.
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
He's on watch with some of those who voted for him, no doubt. The various factions want to know he will prioritise what they want, and aren't looking past that in the euphoria of victory.
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
I am sure that Kamala Harris, as the first ever non-white Vice President, agrees Black Lives Matter.
Targeting her, therefore, is stupid. So stupid you have to wonder if these supposed anarchists were Klansmen under a false flag.
No, in Portland, they are far left anarchists. They have attacked Ted Wheeler home, the massively left wing Mayor, they attacked another elected representative the other night, because he voted against defunding the police. They have smashed up a church that feed and shelter the homeless.
And the attack above, they have already arrested some suspects and they definitely don't look like Proud Boy types.
If Ted Wheeler isn't left wing enough for you, Joe Biden is verging on right wing fascist.
Doesn't this imply he may be mentally prepared to lose/concede?
Here's a thought, Trump is running in 2024 so he won't be investigated/charged.
Would Joe Biden's government really investigate/prosecute a potential challenger?
Depends on what offence(s).
I suspect Biden might be willing to issue a pardon (although not quickly) in relation to federal offences as part of his "uniting the country" vibe.
But if New York want to prosecute Citizen Trump for fraud under state law - and it looks a lot like they do and others may - it's simply not within Biden's gift.
Can't see a pardon being issued. Trump isn't humble enough to ask for one, nor would he offer the necessary comprises (like 'I will feck off now and keep quiet'.) Biden for his part would not be willing to offer him one without huge concessions from him. The antipathy is genuine.
I think that Biden can't pardon Trump. Aside from the complete lack of contrition, his supporters would never forgive him for it.
He doesn't need to - either Trump will pardon himself federally or will get Pence to do it, in a 25th Amendment switcheroo...
Biden will solemnly announce that the DOJ will ask the Supreme Court to rule on the validity of said pardon. The case will buy a number of lawyers new Ferraris.
Meanwhile NY and some other states will nail Trump to the wall for a large number of offences. He will spend the next decade in court.
Some time later, after Biden is relaxing in his Presidential library after a term or 2 in office, the subject of whether Trump can be prosecuted Federally will come up again....
Doesn't this imply he may be mentally prepared to lose/concede?
Here's a thought, Trump is running in 2024 so he won't be investigated/charged.
Would Joe Biden's government really investigate/prosecute a potential challenger?
Depends on what.
I suspect Biden might be willing to issue a pardon (although not quickly) in relation to federal offences as part of his "uniting the country" vibe.
But if New York want to prosecute Citizen Trump for fraud under state law - and it looks a lot like they do and others may - it's simply not within Biden's gift.
There is no reason a wider amnesty or pardon cannot be negotiated. It is not just for unity or to protect the dignity of the White House but also to avoid fuelling the state propaganda of authoritarian regimes around the world. The counter-argument is that if every rogue President (Nixon and now Trump) can expect a pardon, what is to restrain them? But I'd not be betting on President Trump seeing the inside of a prison cell.
I doubt he will actually finish up behind bars but I do expect him to be tied up for the duration in endless court cases and litigation. Everything he is doing now, including the suggestion that he will run again, is calculated to keep his leaky ship afloat and stave off the day of reckoning.
Ford reckoned he was destined for Hell, because '...I pardoned Nixon.' Doubt Biden will make a similar mistake.
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
Remember all the catastrophizing over how we wouldn’t be part of the EU COVID vaccination scheme?
They have yet to order the Pfizer vaccine (the U.K. has ordered 40 million doses) - looks like it’s held up in the EMA which the EU moved from London, reducing its capacity:
If someone can explain QAnon to me (to the extent it is explainable) please do feel free. I don’t understand a thing of it aside from Trump being our saviour from paedophiles, or something.
Basically, the Liberal establishment is peopled by Satan-worshipping cannibalistic paedophiles, and Donald has been sent by God to do battle with them. All this is revealed online by the mysterious 'Q', who is someone high up in the US government and may even be Donald himself. Moreover the whole thing might be exactly what the Book of Revelations predicated, so we could be living in End of Days.
I..... see.
Like I said - you really really don't want to know. My advice is to get blind drunk and watch Withnail & I until you can't remember which decade you are in. Or your thumbs go weird.....
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Vaccine on the horizon
Shares climate change views with Joe Biden and international security
Deal with the EU probable
I remain sceptical about his medium term chances of holding onto his Premiership but I doubt he is going to quickly hand over the keys
House!
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1325856347896819712
Say not the struggle nought availeth,
The labour and the wounds are vain,
The enemy faints not, nor faileth,
And as things have been they remain.
If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars;
It may be, in yon smoke concealed,
Your comrades chase e'en now the fliers,
And, but for you, possess the field.
For while the tired waves, vainly breaking
Seem here no painful inch to gain,
Far back through creeks and inlets making,
Comes silent, flooding in, the main.
And not by eastern windows only,
When daylight comes, comes in the light,
In front the sun climbs slow, how slowly,
But westward, look, the land is bright!
Anytime he has to do more than 30 mins, especially after obviously had a busy day, you see him go downhill rapidly.
And of course peak performance Boris wasn't exactly known as stellar details man.
He might use a sigh of relief to try and stay in office next year. That would be a huge mistake. He's totally unqualified to deliver the social and economic repairs this country needs. If he does the ongoing damage he'll do to the country, and the Conservative Party, will continue, possibly all the way to GE2024.
The window to turf him out and replace him with a competent PM must not be shirked. Or we'll be out-of-office for decades.
But this is actually pretty sensational. Sturgeon clearly seems to made the regulations on harassment retrospective to ensnare Salmond and torpedo his chances of effecting a political resurrection.
It's incendiary and if it wasn't for Trump/Biden and Covid would be dominating the news schedules.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18858466.alex-salmond-inquiry-nicola-sturgeon-ordered-misconduct-policy-48-hours-accuser-disclosure-aide
Terminated....
https://twitter.com/aceprohr/status/1325804876773937153
What part of him being totally useless and unfit for the job aren't you seeing?
Which suggests Trump could be beaten for the GOP nomination by Pence even if he does run again in 2024 though the Democrats would likely hold the White House anyway
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/i-m-pro-joe-but-spare-me-the-trump-haters-8j6wsdj6h
I did a thread on it last month.
https://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/10/11/2024-vision-some-66-1-and-50-1-tips-to-start-off-your-sunday/
They say if only you could gamble on something already knowing the result it would not be gambling.
So ...
Would Joe Biden's government really investigate/prosecute a potential challenger?
Sadly, QAnon is simultaneously barking mad and very dangerous.
(Yes, I know that it's about a likely as one of our posters being related to President Trump).
Joe Biden is seeking to bring people together and that can only happen when people stop point scoring
I'm honestly not worried about this. He's escorted everywhere anyway, and probably doesn't have "the keys" to the White House, or most of the other key federal institutions. He has the right to go in and out until 20th January 2021 and, if he doesn't, he'll simply be asked to leave and removed if he doesn't - in an undignified way through the back door if needs be.
Watching Obama on the campaign trail, now there is somebody who can do the speaking lark. Less impressive on the doing.
Most of Boris' 11 months since the election have been taken up with this accursed pandemic, of which most leaders around the world have made a greater or lesser hash. I think he deserves at least a few more years to show what he can do without it, and if he's deep underwater by the end of 2023, a new leader can then be installed to fight the next GE during their honeymoon.
Et voilà! The catastrophe is neither as near nor as likely as you fear.
His olive leaf to Trump supporters was very statesmanlike and maybe a lesson to all those who still want to divide
I suspect Biden might be willing to issue a pardon (although not quickly) in relation to federal offences as part of his "uniting the country" vibe.
But if New York want to prosecute Citizen Trump for fraud under state law - and it looks a lot like they do and others may - it's simply not within Biden's gift.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1325710587871916032?s=19
QAnon followers believe that Trump — an outsider, a non-politician as they see him — broke the mold, and had to overcome the GOP establishment every bit as much as he defeated the Democratic candidate.
https://twitter.com/JohnnyMilburn/status/1325823151742259200
"NICOLA Sturgeon demanded a new harassment policy should apply to former ministers just 48 hours after one of Alex Salmond’s accusers made a secret “disclosure” to her private office.
"The First Minister’s private secretary received the sensitive information from a female civil servant who later filed a misconduct complaint against Mr Salmond."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(1982_film)
Targeting her, therefore, or her boss who helped elevate her to that office, is stupid. So stupid you have to wonder if these supposed anarchists were Klansmen under a false flag.
And the attack above, they have already arrested some suspects and they definitely don't look like Proud Boy types.
If Ted Wheeler isn't left wing enough for you, Joe Biden is verging on right wing fascist.
I don’t see a way back for that country.
He doesn't need to - either Trump will pardon himself federally or will get Pence to do it, in a 25th Amendment switcheroo...
Biden will solemnly announce that the DOJ will ask the Supreme Court to rule on the validity of said pardon. The case will buy a number of lawyers new Ferraris.
Meanwhile NY and some other states will nail Trump to the wall for a large number of offences. He will spend the next decade in court.
Some time later, after Biden is relaxing in his Presidential library after a term or 2 in office, the subject of whether Trump can be prosecuted Federally will come up again....
https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1325849020372291590
https://twitter.com/NadiaKamil/status/1325856980683157504
https://twitter.com/NadiaKamil/status/1325859892549349379
Ford reckoned he was destined for Hell, because '...I pardoned Nixon.' Doubt Biden will make a similar mistake.
Bit like Reefer Madness.....
After all, they know past all doubt there’s been fraud yet there’s no evidence in public to show it...
They have yet to order the Pfizer vaccine (the U.K. has ordered 40 million doses) - looks like it’s held up in the EMA which the EU moved from London, reducing its capacity:
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1109/1176940-pfizer-covid-vaccine/