So I have seen the videos of people going crazy by cheering clapping and tooting in New York, Philly and DC.
When do I see the videos of people going crazy by mobbing lynching and shooting in Bumfuck Idaho?
They haven't worked out how to fix the camera to the fore-end of the assault rifle? No, that can't be it - you can buy all sorts of ally kit for your AR over there.
I thought the only point in favour of these two...
...was the lack of Picatinny rails on the rifle with the whole of Walmart attached to them.
So a sentence of say 19 years years in prison, rather than the full 20 they deserve
Ah thanks - I couldn't remember what the rails were called!!
2nd shot from that rifle may well endanger the photographer given the way it's held.
That might have been the intent. We don't know what the photographer, erm, looked like to them, do we?
This is what '97 felt like on our side of the political divide. Enjoy!
Coming soon to the UK.
You'll be lucky.
Labour stooge posts like this pump me up.
Like the pumped up MAGA nuts currently in tears.
I'll fight your lot all the way mate.
You and Southam have been really pissing me off with your partisan crap recently.
You do know that you’re quite partisan yourself. We simply disagree with you. It’s ok. And you know what when we defeat your gang, it will be ok too.
But today is a good day. Time to celebrate and be inspired.
I've just opened a nicely chilled Italian pinot grigio (while I cam still get it at a decent price).
Some teasing is perhaps permissible, and I have indulged a little bit. But we should go easy on it very soon and try and stick to the substantive content and argument. We don't want to drive our colleagues to Conservative Home or Order Order - they do a good job in showing how the other half thinks and argues.
It is striking and frankly surprising how some Tories are upset about Trump’s defeat. The man is dangerous. Anyone who thinks nuking hurricanes is a good idea or injecting bleach is a good way to kill a virus is demonstrably not presidential. And yet they mourn. Bizarre.
Again, ridiculous, since leaders of various nations can enjoy a good relationship even if they would not agree with each others domestic politics, Democrats with Tory PMs, even Republicans with a Labour PM. Can Boris enjoy a good relationship with Biden? I suspect not, but their personal politics doesn't preclude it. It also presumes that because one side really likes the other leader, that will guarantee a good relationship, when the side in question might have little to do with the other despite that fangirling.
Again, I don't have an issue thinking it might happen, I just find it slightly pathetic that people are so certain how the personal relationships will go, because they so clearly want their view of the domestic political alignment to be confirmed in a personal way.
Commentators said that Boris is well on side with Biden on climate change and of course the UK is hosting next years summit, also on international defence security and NATO, together with G7 G20 and a shared interest in TPPA
That is a lot of shared interests
"Britain Trump" was not on the side of Biden!
Is that a label Boris himself adopted? If not, then who the hell cares if someone else called him Britain Trump?(Trump has said it, but I don't trust his judgement, do you?)
Precisely.
Boris developed the exact same movement in the UK as Trump did in the US. To deny it all of a sudden is rather laughable. Take back control = make America Great again.
Boris developed nothing. Murdoch, Cummings, Farage and Banks built the movement. Boris just hitched a ride.
But it also wouldn't have worked without him, and developed the same kind of maverick-popular, cult form without him. Farage was and is much narrower in appeal.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
Unsurprisingly the liberals are already forgetting that 70m people just voted for Trump. Hopefully Biden and his staff aren't so stupid.
Max. In a binary contest you win or lose. You should know this from Brexit. 17 million people were beyond pissed off but no one thought to try to share the spoils (and in that instance it was possible). Here it isn't. Trump is out and that's the way it is
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
No need to conduct a welfare check on you, you're here and posting, you didn't do an IOS after the 2015 general election, which does speak well of your character.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
Congratulations to Biden but the reaction of so many of the wrong people to his victory makes me want to vomit.
Reminds me why Trump won in the first place.
Trump lost the popular vote two elections in a row
Yes, I know and you keep posting this like a mindless moron like the rest of us don't.
The popular vote is irrelevant. America is a a constitutional Republic and you need to win where it counts: the President is elected by a weighted majority of the representatives of the *states* of America.
It was designed like that for a reason.
However, if the Republicans have any sense (not holding my breath) they should ask why, having lost the popular vote in just two elections by more than 2% between the Berlin Blockade and the end of the Cold War, they have won the popular vote only once since then?
That is a situation that isn’t sustainable for ever if they want to keep challenging for power.
That's actually the congress building, a lot of people over here confuse it with the White House. Just as many foreigners think that Tower Bridge is London Bridge.
This is what '97 felt like on our side of the political divide. Enjoy!
Coming soon to the UK.
You'll be lucky.
Labour stooge posts like this pump me up.
Like the pumped up MAGA nuts currently in tears.
I'll fight your lot all the way mate.
You and Southam have been really pissing me off with your partisan crap recently.
You do know that you’re quite partisan yourself. We simply disagree with you. It’s ok. And you know what when we defeat your gang, it will be ok too.
But today is a good day. Time to celebrate and be inspired.
I've just opened a nicely chilled Italian pinot grigio (while I cam still get it at a decent price).
Some teasing is perhaps permissible, and I have indulged a little bit. But we should go easy on it very soon and try and stick to the substantive content and argument. We don't want to drive our colleagues to Conservative Home or Order Order - they do a good job in showing how the other half thinks and argues.
It is striking and frankly surprising how some Tories are upset about Trump’s defeat. The man is dangerous. Anyone who thinks nuking hurricanes is a good idea or injecting bleach is a good way to kill a virus is demonstrably not presidential. And yet they mourn. Bizarre.
Are there any of the usual Tories on here who are upset by this? We have had one or two recent arrivals who are keen on him, but none of the long standing ones.
As has been said above: this was not about right v left but right v wrong.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
No need to conduct a welfare check on you, you're here and posting, you didn't do an IOS after the 2015 general election, which does speak well of your character.
Yes those whom don't run away after predicting something wrong deserve our respect, not attacks as some here have been doing disgracefully to the user in question.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
Hope you're well mate.
I am absolutely fine @CorrectHorseBattery, I am having a glass of wine and thinking of my winnings
So I have seen the videos of people going crazy by cheering clapping and tooting in New York, Philly and DC.
When do I see the videos of people going crazy by mobbing lynching and shooting in Bumfuck Idaho?
They haven't worked out how to fix the camera to the fore-end of the assault rifle? No, that can't be it - you can buy all sorts of ally kit for your AR over there.
I thought the only point in favour of these two...
...was the lack of Picatinny rails on the rifle with the whole of Walmart attached to them.
So a sentence of say 19 years years in prison, rather than the full 20 they deserve
Ah thanks - I couldn't remember what the rails were called!!
Mind you, the twat above had spent a zillion dollars buying the AR-15 that looks like a military M-16 - so actually, put the 1 year off for taste back on. Given him the full 20 for being a LARPer.
For your delectation....
Re that pair in, was it Portland?, what strikes me on a second look is, what's that in his pockets?
This is what '97 felt like on our side of the political divide. Enjoy!
Coming soon to the UK.
You'll be lucky.
Labour stooge posts like this pump me up.
Like the pumped up MAGA nuts currently in tears.
I'll fight your lot all the way mate.
You and Southam have been really pissing me off with your partisan crap recently.
You do know that you’re quite partisan yourself. We simply disagree with you. It’s ok. And you know what when we defeat your gang, it will be ok too.
But today is a good day. Time to celebrate and be inspired.
I've just opened a nicely chilled Italian pinot grigio (while I cam still get it at a decent price).
Some teasing is perhaps permissible, and I have indulged a little bit. But we should go easy on it very soon and try and stick to the substantive content and argument. We don't want to drive our colleagues to Conservative Home or Order Order - they do a good job in showing how the other half thinks and argues.
It is striking and frankly surprising how some Tories are upset about Trump’s defeat. The man is dangerous. Anyone who thinks nuking hurricanes is a good idea or injecting bleach is a good way to kill a virus is demonstrably not presidential. And yet they mourn. Bizarre.
Are there any of the usual Tories on here who are upset by this? We have had one or two recent arrivals who are keen on him, but none of the long standing ones.
As has been said above: this was not about right v left but right v wrong.
Unsurprisingly the liberals are already forgetting that 70m people just voted for Trump. Hopefully Biden and his staff aren't so stupid.
Max. In a binary contest you win or lose. You should know this from Brexit. 17 million people were beyond pissed off but no one thought to try to share the spoils (and in that instance it was possible). Here it isn't. Trump is out and that's the way it is
Max is posting "partisan rubbish" but yet Casino didn't shout abuse his way, I wonder why
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
No need to conduct a welfare check on you, you're here and posting, you didn't do an IOS after the 2015 general election, which does speak well of your character.
Thanks @TSE. I don't believe in running away. I like to think it is one of my (few) good traits.
Congratulations to Biden but the reaction of so many of the wrong people to his victory makes me want to vomit.
Reminds me why Trump won in the first place.
Trump lost the popular vote two elections in a row
Yes, I know and you keep posting this like a mindless moron like the rest of us don't.
The popular vote is irrelevant. America is a a constitutional Republic and you need to win where it counts: the President is elected by a weighted majority of the representatives of the *states* of America.
It was designed like that for a reason.
However, if the Republicans have any sense (not holding my breath) they should ask why, having lost the popular vote in just two elections by more than 2% between the Berlin Blockade and the end of the Cold War, they have won the popular vote only once since then?
That is a situation that isn’t sustainable for ever if they want to keep challenging for power.
The reality is a lot of the Trumper and the Sanders lot have a lot in common. They feel the system has failed them, that they have poor future opportunities, that globalization has harmed them. It is why Corbyn was popular and Brexit.
For all the "Boris was too close to Trump" types, I wonder if the same people will forget just how keen Macron was to be seen as BFF with him? First meeting, first state visits etc, all Macron.
You're not seriously suggesting that Macron has/had any time for Trump? Macron thinks he's an absolute idiot. But Macron is a consummate politician - of course he wanted to get in with Trump first, to see what he could do to temper Trump's excesses - and in the interest of France, of course.
Boris and Macron are the same. Both thing he is a total idiot. Both laughed at him behind is back, together on camera. Both also worked with him because they're head of Government and he was POTUS. Both will work with Biden.
Boris and Macron are both more like Biden than Trump.
Johnson is nothing like Biden, you have utterly lost it.
Out of the G7 leaders I think it is fair to say that Merkel, Macron, Trudeau, Conte and even Suga will have a closer relationship with Biden than Boris will, Boris will find himself a bit isolated among the main G7 leaders now Trump has gone, though he has built working relationships with them all, especially Suga thanks to the UK Japan trade deal and am sure he will do the same with Biden
Sensible and accurate post, I'm glad not all Tories - of course Philip voted for Farage so I suspect sensible is perhaps stretching it - are nuts.
I didn't vote for Farage. I voted to get rid of Theresa May and for Farage to be made redundant.
So when you voted Tory in 2019, did you not vote for Johnson?
No, I did I voted for Boris to become Prime Minister.
I never voted for Farage to become anything except unemployed.
So hold on, when you voted for Brexit Party you weren't voting for Farage but when you voted Tory you were voting for Johnson?
You need to have a nap.
Yes because it's simple. The Westminster Election was a meaningful election to determine who would become Prime Minister.
The 2019 European Parliament election was a bullshit, meaningless, irrelevant wasteful election for a body we should have quit that would bear no meaning for our future whatsoever.
So yes one was serious and the other was not. I treated my ballot in the European Parliament election with the contempt it deserved and used it as a protest vote to oust a Tory Prime Minister I opposed. What is wrong with that?
You are the British equivalent of a red neck Trump supporter . You are just in denial about being a shy Trumpian along with most of the swivel eyed Little Englanders , who share so much in common with Trump
Come off it Nigel, that’s simply not true. Whatever Philip’s views on British politicians he’s never wavered in his disdain for Trump and his support for Biden.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
No need to conduct a welfare check on you, you're here and posting, you didn't do an IOS after the 2015 general election, which does speak well of your character.
Yes those whom don't run away after predicting something wrong deserve our respect, not attacks as some here have been doing disgracefully to the user in question.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
No need to conduct a welfare check on you, you're here and posting, you didn't do an IOS after the 2015 general election, which does speak well of your character.
Thanks @TSE. I don't believe in running away. I like to think it is one of my (few) good traits.
The highest mark of your character is that you have not fired back despite the abuse and bullying (IMHO) you have received. You're 10x the people they are.
Whilst I don't agree with much/any of what you post, I value your contribution and the way you go about it. Rock on
It's not a left over right victory. It's a truth over delusional lies, civility and decency over unpleasantness one.
And that is why the result is acceptable, under the circumstances.
Although the need remains to address the reasons people can vote for trump, farage etc, I have no idea if the gap can be bridged between the different camps, it’s not going to be achieved by reasoned argument but maybe economic leveling up can remove the racist and isolationist tendencies.
200g of crab meat 200g raw prawns 25g coriander one small onion
1) Use a blender to atomise the onion. 2) Fine chop the coriander - hell, use the blender 3) Blend the crab and pawns together - not too fine, though 4) Mix the onion, coriander, crab and prawns together by hand. Make small cakes out of the mix. 5) Frying pan with a bit of oil - get it good and hot. 6) Fry for 2 minute, each side
Finally they’ve called it. Very pleased for Biden and Harris. I hope that he is the tonic they need at the moment after 4 years of the mendacious Trump.
So I have seen the videos of people going crazy by cheering clapping and tooting in New York, Philly and DC.
When do I see the videos of people going crazy by mobbing lynching and shooting in Bumfuck Idaho?
They haven't worked out how to fix the camera to the fore-end of the assault rifle? No, that can't be it - you can buy all sorts of ally kit for your AR over there.
I thought the only point in favour of these two...
...was the lack of Picatinny rails on the rifle with the whole of Walmart attached to them.
So a sentence of say 19 years years in prison, rather than the full 20 they deserve
Ah thanks - I couldn't remember what the rails were called!!
2nd shot from that rifle may well endanger the photographer given the way it's held.
That might have been the intent. We don't know what the photographer, erm, looked like to them, do we?
The subsequent investigation found that these people were monumentally malevolent and incompetent assholes in nearly every action in their lives.
Casino is a great poster and a decent bloke. Sometimes he gets rubbed up the wrong way and I fundamentally disagree with him. Like the great man said an opponent not an enemy.
I am sorry that this might trigger him, but I am going to fully enjoy today. Thank goodness Trump is going. It’s inspiring. Hopefully we will get rid of our own crazy haired, truth bending populist incompetent premier.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
2. The PA case concerns votes that haven't even been counted yet: Biden will win even if they are kicked out, and that has all the EC votes he needs.
So I have seen the videos of people going crazy by cheering clapping and tooting in New York, Philly and DC.
When do I see the videos of people going crazy by mobbing lynching and shooting in Bumfuck Idaho?
They haven't worked out how to fix the camera to the fore-end of the assault rifle? No, that can't be it - you can buy all sorts of ally kit for your AR over there.
I thought the only point in favour of these two...
...was the lack of Picatinny rails on the rifle with the whole of Walmart attached to them.
So a sentence of say 19 years years in prison, rather than the full 20 they deserve
Ah thanks - I couldn't remember what the rails were called!!
2nd shot from that rifle may well endanger the photographer given the way it's held.
That might have been the intent. We don't know what the photographer, erm, looked like to them, do we?
The subsequent investigation found that these people were monumentally malevolent and incompetent assholes in nearly every action in their lives.
You cannot see the knife in her other hand. He was lucky to get out of there alive.
We often forget Her Majesty has served in the military.
It's actually all the more impressive a photo when one remembers what happened to Lord Mountbatten. And Ms Hoey has to do that?!
At the time there were some jokes about Her Maj, her experience with motor vehicles and the gentleman in question being well advised to check his brakes, when he left.....
Casino is a great poster and a decent bloke. Sometimes he gets rubbed up the wrong way and I fundamentally disagree with him. Like the great man said an opponent not an enemy.
I am sorry that this might trigger him, but I am going to fully enjoy today. Thank goodness Trump is going. It’s inspiring. Hopefully we will get rid of our own crazy haired, truth bending populist incompetent premier.
I value his contribution but when I've behaved like him in the past I've always apologised for my behaviour and the suspects who always demanded apologies from me are oddly MIA at this moment, why might that be?
I hope Labour never ever wins an election in my lifetime again.
Their tears are my joy.
That's not very nice.
The right wing over the past few years have lost most of the conventional decencies. This is why they deserve the kind of defeat that changes their ways. Today is the start of a clear out in the US... The UK will deal with their Bannonites soon enough. Also much looking forward to Rees Moggs further comments concerning the Russian connections of his business interests.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
Despite all the talk sadly there is not the slightest sign of Trump conceding and an outside possibility of litigation making a difference, while there is a real prospect of litigation making a challenge. Too early to say anything else at all at the moment. Let's hope he concedes soon. Fox News while calling it for Biden is also saying that it is far from over. I am sorry to say I agree for the moment.
Notable for the only time a fleet carrier found itself in a battle line with battleships (and according to some accounts actually fired its guns at the enemy cruisers).
A wonderful day across America, and across the world. 2020 really had a twist in the tale didn’t it?
You make it sound like it is a shock Trump got beat, the guy 10% behind in the polls for months. No COVID perhaps he stood a chance, but as soon as it became clear his handling was a disaster and was openingly promoting incredibly dangerous behaviour, surely you didn't believe he could win.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
2. The PA case concerns votes that haven't even been counted yet: Biden will win even if they are kicked out, and that has all the EC votes he needs.
4. He has.
2. I know; 4 - I realised after I posted, hence my reply to @Anabobazina !
It's not a left over right victory. It's a truth over delusional lies, civility and decency over unpleasantness one.
And that is why the result is acceptable, under the circumstances.
Although the need remains to address the reasons people can vote for trump, farage etc, I have no idea if the gap can be bridged between the different camps, it’s not going to be achieved by reasoned argument but maybe economic leveling up can remove the racist and isolationist tendencies.
I hope Biden can do that. I think his key advantage, like Rutherford B Hayes, is ‘he is obnoxious to nobody.’ True, he served alongside some controversial people but generally his strength is being a bland, slightly weak figure who runs along with most people.
But - it’s still a hell of an ask and a full time job on its own. America is more divided than its ever been - even in the late 60s when there were realistic fears it was on the brink of a second civil war.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
No need to conduct a welfare check on you, you're here and posting, you didn't do an IOS after the 2015 general election, which does speak well of your character.
Thanks @TSE. I don't believe in running away. I like to think it is one of my (few) good traits.
The highest mark of your character is that you have not fired back despite the abuse and bullying (IMHO) you have received. You're 10x the people they are.
Whilst I don't agree with much/any of what you post, I value your contribution and the way you go about it. Rock on
Thank you Sir, it would be an absolute pleasure to buy you a drink one day when the meet-ups start again.
I would also pay the same compliment to you re your behaviour on this site
Casino is a great poster and a decent bloke. Sometimes he gets rubbed up the wrong way and I fundamentally disagree with him. Like the great man said an opponent not an enemy.
I am sorry that this might trigger him, but I am going to fully enjoy today. Thank goodness Trump is going. It’s inspiring. Hopefully we will get rid of our own crazy haired, truth bending populist incompetent premier.
We already have. He was thrown out of the Labour Party last week.
You cannot see the knife in her other hand. He was lucky to get out of there alive.
We often forget Her Majesty has served in the military.
And her husband served in one of the Royal Navy's most complete naval victories.
And her youngest son was in the Royal Marines for four months, judging by the medals he wears it must have been the busiest and most dangerous period in the history of the Marines. How many wars did he fight in?
This is what '97 felt like on our side of the political divide. Enjoy!
Coming soon to the UK.
You'll be lucky.
Labour stooge posts like this pump me up.
Like the pumped up MAGA nuts currently in tears.
I'll fight your lot all the way mate.
You and Southam have been really pissing me off with your partisan crap recently.
You do know that you’re quite partisan yourself. We simply disagree with you. It’s ok. And you know what when we defeat your gang, it will be ok too.
But today is a good day. Time to celebrate and be inspired.
I've just opened a nicely chilled Italian pinot grigio (while I cam still get it at a decent price).
Some teasing is perhaps permissible, and I have indulged a little bit. But we should go easy on it very soon and try and stick to the substantive content and argument. We don't want to drive our colleagues to Conservative Home or Order Order - they do a good job in showing how the other half thinks and argues.
It is striking and frankly surprising how some Tories are upset about Trump’s defeat. The man is dangerous. Anyone who thinks nuking hurricanes is a good idea or injecting bleach is a good way to kill a virus is demonstrably not presidential. And yet they mourn. Bizarre.
Are there any of the usual Tories on here who are upset by this? We have had one or two recent arrivals who are keen on him, but none of the long standing ones.
As has been said above: this was not about right v left but right v wrong.
I despise Trump and have said so on numerous occasions and it is a great day to see him beaten and I wish Joe Biden every success
And you are correct in saying this is not about right v left but right v wrong
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
No need to conduct a welfare check on you, you're here and posting, you didn't do an IOS after the 2015 general election, which does speak well of your character.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
2. The PA case concerns votes that haven't even been counted yet: Biden will win even if they are kicked out, and that has all the EC votes he needs.
4. He has.
2. I know; 4 - I realised after I posted, hence my reply to @Anabobazina !
Re (2), he's correct. The SoS in PA said that the votes recieved post election day have been segregated and are not included in the vote totals.
You cannot see the knife in her other hand. He was lucky to get out of there alive.
We often forget Her Majesty has served in the military.
And her husband served in one of the Royal Navy's most complete naval victories.
Matapan, I presume you mean?
That's the one. Three cruisers for one Swordfish I think.
Phil the Greek got a Mention In Dispatches for that one, IIRC.
He was in charge of searchlight control, on his ship - at that period in time, radar, while vital wasn't suitable for complete blind aiming. The aim of searchlights in night fighting was to blind the enemy (imagine looking down a sighting telescope at a zillion candlepower) and illuminate the enemy for your ships to aim at.
Get it wrong and you have just lit a perfect beacon for the enemy.
Apparently, when they switched on, the lights were perfectly aimed at the Italian gunnery director towers. So they were blinded, while the British fleet fired multiple salvoes....
Apparently Giuliani said something about not having to prove ballots were invalid, because it was up to the officials to prove they were valid by convincing party observers.
An odd notion, giving party observers a veto on any election result they don't like. Observers on both sides!
What's in it for Giuliani? Does Trump have photos of him adjusting his sound equipment or something?
You cannot see the knife in her other hand. He was lucky to get out of there alive.
We often forget Her Majesty has served in the military.
And her husband served in one of the Royal Navy's most complete naval victories.
Matapan, I presume you mean?
That's the one. Three cruisers for one Swordfish I think.
Phil the Greek got a Mention In Dispatches for that one, IIRC.
He was in charge of searchlight control, on his ship - at that period in time, radar, while vital wasn't suitable for complete blind aiming. The aim of searchlights in night fighting was to blind the enemy (imagine looking down a sighting telescope at a zillion candlepower) and illuminate the enemy for your ships to aim at.
Get it wrong and you have just lit a perfect beacon for the enemy.
Apparently, when they switched on, the lights were perfectly aimed at the Italian gunnery director towers. So they were blinded, while the British fleet fired multiple salvoes....
There was a destroyer that opened fire only to see its target essentially blow up. Their first though was "did we do that?" only to then remember the three 15" battleships behind them.
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
Despite all the talk sadly there is not the slightest sign of Trump conceding and an outside possibility of litigation making a difference, while there is a real prospect of litigation making a challenge. Too early to say anything else at all at the moment. Let's hope he concedes soon. Fox News while calling it for Biden is also saying that it is far from over. I am sorry to say I agree for the moment.
I said it before but I will repeat it, I think the Arizona count here could be absolutely critical to how this whole situation plays out. He's at 20K margin and if you look at the counties with the largest shares of the vote to come (10%+) all bar the small-ish Apache one are Republican by double digit. Pinal, where he is up 15%, has 27K votes to go.
Assuming a scenario where he wins NC and AL, a win in AZ puts Trump on 242. He's got a recount in Georgia which is by no means out given the wafer thin margin so you could (theoretically) be on 258.
It's clear from his statement that he will fight and it's a signal to others to join him. It's going to be very hard for the RNC to walk away from this. So this will drag on. Whether foreign leaders recognise Biden actually will count for sh1t as to how this plays out.
You cannot see the knife in her other hand. He was lucky to get out of there alive.
We often forget Her Majesty has served in the military.
And her husband served in one of the Royal Navy's most complete naval victories.
I hope he gets the associated medals shined more brilliantly.
I don't like the habit of the royals to wear vast collections of undeserved medals. Nor generals for that matter.
Rank is inevitable, but medals could just be awarded when truly merited.
I think most medals are for being there, or long service. Not a huge number get awarded for particular deeds.
Prince Philip, visiting Brazil, saw a highly decorated general. Intrigued, he asked in which conflict the general won those medals. ‘The Second World War,’ came the reply.
‘I didn’t know Brazil was in the war that long,’ said Philip.
‘Well, at least I didn’t get them for marrying my wife,’ retorted the general.
You cannot see the knife in her other hand. He was lucky to get out of there alive.
We often forget Her Majesty has served in the military.
And her husband served in one of the Royal Navy's most complete naval victories.
Matapan, I presume you mean?
That's the one. Three cruisers for one Swordfish I think.
Phil the Greek got a Mention In Dispatches for that one, IIRC.
He was in charge of searchlight control, on his ship - at that period in time, radar, while vital wasn't suitable for complete blind aiming. The aim of searchlights in night fighting was to blind the enemy (imagine looking down a sighting telescope at a zillion candlepower) and illuminate the enemy for your ships to aim at.
Get it wrong and you have just lit a perfect beacon for the enemy.
Apparently, when they switched on, the lights were perfectly aimed at the Italian gunnery director towers. So they were blinded, while the British fleet fired multiple salvoes....
This is how CNN teed up Johnson's congratulatory message: "This is from Boris Johnson, a close ally of President Trump, and someone quite in the mould of President Trump."
You cannot see the knife in her other hand. He was lucky to get out of there alive.
We often forget Her Majesty has served in the military.
And her husband served in one of the Royal Navy's most complete naval victories.
Matapan, I presume you mean?
That's the one. Three cruisers for one Swordfish I think.
Phil the Greek got a Mention In Dispatches for that one, IIRC.
He was in charge of searchlight control, on his ship - at that period in time, radar, while vital wasn't suitable for complete blind aiming. The aim of searchlights in night fighting was to blind the enemy (imagine looking down a sighting telescope at a zillion candlepower) and illuminate the enemy for your ships to aim at.
Get it wrong and you have just lit a perfect beacon for the enemy.
Apparently, when they switched on, the lights were perfectly aimed at the Italian gunnery director towers. So they were blinded, while the British fleet fired multiple salvoes....
Isn't he more Phil the Dane?
Well, sensibly, the Greeks outsourced their Royal family to immigrants.... So it depends on your point of view....
Apparently Giuliani said something about not having to prove ballots were invalid, because it was up to the officials to prove they were valid by convincing party observers.
An odd notion, giving party observers a veto on any election result they don't like. Observers on both sides!
What's in it for Giuliani? Does Trump have photos of him adjusting his sound equipment or something?
He needs to get rid of Giuliani, the man is a f****** idiot
Can someone check if Contrarian and Brokenwheel are ok? They were posting quite prolifically until Wednesday then nada. I feel that only the most dire circumstance would make them miss this PB moment.
I'll conduct some welfare checks on them, it's what the site editorial team should do.
I can't believe nobody is checking on me as well
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
Despite all the talk sadly there is not the slightest sign of Trump conceding and an outside possibility of litigation making a difference, while there is a real prospect of litigation making a challenge. Too early to say anything else at all at the moment. Let's hope he concedes soon. Fox News while calling it for Biden is also saying that it is far from over. I am sorry to say I agree for the moment.
I said it before but I will repeat it, I think the Arizona count here could be absolutely critical to how this whole situation plays out. He's at 20K margin and if you look at the counties with the largest shares of the vote to come (10%+) all bar the small-ish Apache one are Republican by double digit. Pinal, where he is up 15%, has 27K votes to go.
Assuming a scenario where he wins NC and AL, a win in AZ puts Trump on 242. He's got a recount in Georgia which is by no means out given the wafer thin margin so you could (theoretically) be on 258.
It's clear from his statement that he will fight and it's a signal to others to join him. It's going to be very hard for the RNC to walk away from this. So this will drag on. Whether foreign leaders recognise Biden actually will count for sh1t as to how this plays out.
Congratulations to Biden but the reaction of so many of the wrong people to his victory makes me want to vomit.
Reminds me why Trump won in the first place.
Trump is scum and so many of the people who voted for Trump are scum. Yes they have a democratic right to vote, but it doesn't change who they are.
I don't share your choice of words but Royale will just tell you to fuck off so to save that, I will say, don't
I just look at that Van Jones clip. Trump and Trumpism are an inch away from fascism. As with the open lies told by Trump where you have to call them out its the same for the people who support him and them.
People know what he is. And vote for him. Yes its their democratic right to vote for whomever they want. But that doesn't excuse their actions.
Would you call your Trump-voting friends "scum" to their faces?
(Assuming you've got American friends, but I think most of us here have some.)
And if you don't have Trump-voting friends, isn't this indicative of a lack of unity and how tribal our societies are becoming? This latter point worries me, to be honest, because it increases the chances of other divisive leaders coming to the fore in the future.
For what it's worth, I don't think my Trump-voting friends are "scum", though I agree there are plenty of undesirables I'm less likely to be friends with who do vote Trump. But then if you want evidence of some really nasty people voting Democrat, there's a reason the Democrats are keen on felons voting, so I think - as is often the case - a cosy sense of moral superiority should usually be replaced by a somewhat less comfortable and more ambiguous feeling.
Just gets better and better for Bozo , his best pal chucked out , Europe grovelling surrender coming up, trouble re Ireland debacle and now The US - Scotland Angle
“I think the United Kingdom - look, I learned from Scottish friends, the last thing to do is to suggest to a Scot what he should do ... Scotland's democratic will must be respected." Joe Biden
You cannot see the knife in her other hand. He was lucky to get out of there alive.
We often forget Her Majesty has served in the military.
And her husband served in one of the Royal Navy's most complete naval victories.
I hope he gets the associated medals shined more brilliantly.
I don't like the habit of the royals to wear vast collections of undeserved medals. Nor generals for that matter.
Rank is inevitable, but medals could just be awarded when truly merited.
I think most medals are for being there, or long service. Not a huge number get awarded for particular deeds.
Prince Philip, visiting Brazil, saw a highly decorated general. Intrigued, he asked in which conflict the general won those medals. ‘The Second World War,’ came the reply.
‘I didn’t know Brazil was in the war that long,’ said Philip.
‘Well, at least I didn’t get them for marrying my wife,’ retorted the general.
Given what Philip did do in the war that was more than rude.
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I suspect the woman who said that, would be saying that today.
What were your previous viewpoints nicomar?
(I know that's not quite what you meant, but if you want to own up to prior monster-raving-loonyism then now is the time
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52941254
All thr others excuses, its the proud boys, it waa trump sending storm troopers in, it doesn't wash, as they keep rioting, it never stops.
Re the call of the networks for Biden, some feedback from what hearing the other side of the pond.
1. @CarlottaVance is right. The networks' call doesn't have legal force. The feeling is this is definitely a PR move to force acceptance and push a narrative before recounts are over.
2. The thoughts over there is some surprise Biden has pushed it this evening as two states are under official recount (Georgia and Wisconsin) and a third (Arizona) hasn't called but it may go to a recount. Also that PA was called given it is under a Supreme Court order. It was pointed out, if you take out the the states under official recount, Biden only has 269 votes even with PA;
3. Trump actually delivered something that was tangible on the vote front but it wasn't fraud. One of the counties in Michigan reported that a software glitch transferred 6000 votes from Trump to Biden and has reversed it out. The same piece of software is in nearly 50 counties in Michigan and in Georgia. That - possibly - could be important because it would mean individual counties (who have responsibility for vote counts) running checks and bypassing the need to go to the courts. On the other hand, it may not matter at all and it might just be one county with an issue. Nobody knows but it is an area of focus.
4. This is a personal thought - re Johnson, I don't think he will call this yet for Biden (though I might be wrong). I think he will wait to see what happens with Trump's reaction and what others do. Remember Trump still has two months in office.
More importantly, when will the Bookies pay out on the result?
Fair play to him.
That is a situation that isn’t sustainable for ever if they want to keep challenging for power.
As has been said above: this was not about right v left but right v wrong.
Whilst I don't agree with much/any of what you post, I value your contribution and the way you go about it. Rock on
200g of crab meat
200g raw prawns
25g coriander
one small onion
1) Use a blender to atomise the onion.
2) Fine chop the coriander - hell, use the blender
3) Blend the crab and pawns together - not too fine, though
4) Mix the onion, coriander, crab and prawns together by hand. Make small cakes out of the mix.
5) Frying pan with a bit of oil - get it good and hot.
6) Fry for 2 minute, each side
Serve with rice
I am sorry that this might trigger him, but I am going to fully enjoy today. Thank goodness Trump is going. It’s inspiring. Hopefully we will get rid of our own crazy haired, truth bending populist incompetent premier.
4. He has.
I'm going off again, have a lovely evening all.
Edit: this is a pretty good look at it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8I2HavEEPE
Notable for the only time a fleet carrier found itself in a battle line with battleships (and according to some accounts actually fired its guns at the enemy cruisers).
I don't like the habit of the royals to wear vast collections of undeserved medals. Nor generals for that matter.
Rank is inevitable, but medals could just be awarded when truly merited.
But - it’s still a hell of an ask and a full time job on its own. America is more divided than its ever been - even in the late 60s when there were realistic fears it was on the brink of a second civil war.
Stonking achievement.
I would also pay the same compliment to you re your behaviour on this site
Oh, did you mean Johnson?
And you are correct in saying this is not about right v left but right v wrong
I'll get my coat.
He was in charge of searchlight control, on his ship - at that period in time, radar, while vital wasn't suitable for complete blind aiming. The aim of searchlights in night fighting was to blind the enemy (imagine looking down a sighting telescope at a zillion candlepower) and illuminate the enemy for your ships to aim at.
Get it wrong and you have just lit a perfect beacon for the enemy.
Apparently, when they switched on, the lights were perfectly aimed at the Italian gunnery director towers. So they were blinded, while the British fleet fired multiple salvoes....
An odd notion, giving party observers a veto on any election result they don't like. Observers on both sides!
What's in it for Giuliani? Does Trump have photos of him adjusting his sound equipment or something?
Promise I am going but this guy is likely to be part of a Biden administration. Over to Johnson.
From case data
From hospitalisation data
Assuming a scenario where he wins NC and AL, a win in AZ puts Trump on 242. He's got a recount in Georgia which is by no means out given the wafer thin margin so you could (theoretically) be on 258.
It's clear from his statement that he will fight and it's a signal to others to join him. It's going to be very hard for the RNC to walk away from this. So this will drag on. Whether foreign leaders recognise Biden actually will count for sh1t as to how this plays out.
‘I didn’t know Brazil was in the war that long,’ said Philip.
‘Well, at least I didn’t get them for marrying my wife,’ retorted the general.
They've got him bang to rights there.
(Assuming you've got American friends, but I think most of us here have some.)
And if you don't have Trump-voting friends, isn't this indicative of a lack of unity and how tribal our societies are becoming? This latter point worries me, to be honest, because it increases the chances of other divisive leaders coming to the fore in the future.
For what it's worth, I don't think my Trump-voting friends are "scum", though I agree there are plenty of undesirables I'm less likely to be friends with who do vote Trump. But then if you want evidence of some really nasty people voting Democrat, there's a reason the Democrats are keen on felons voting, so I think - as is often the case - a cosy sense of moral superiority should usually be replaced by a somewhat less comfortable and more ambiguous feeling.
The US - Scotland Angle
“I think the United Kingdom - look, I learned from Scottish friends, the last thing to do is to suggest to a Scot what he should do ... Scotland's democratic will must be respected." Joe Biden