What was the mortality figure when we locked down in March?
Excellent question. 23. (March 16)
So it’s ten times as bad now.
And yet we’re in this horrible muddle.
TBF we were following the dreadful trajectory of Italy back in March. We understand the virus and what interventions can and cannot do a lot better now. This should be easier, not more difficult.
Yes. And we still can’t get it right.
The only plausible defence for this lot is that with about six exceptions no government has.
Several newspapers have recently quoted Jennifer Arcuri conceding that she did indeed have an affair with Boris Johnson and was 'bombarded by passion'. The Mirror reports that "the 35-year-old businesswoman has gone on record by alleging she had an affair with the current Prime Minister between 2012 and 2016 while he was the Mayor of London" The Mirror's report continues "But the Prime Minister avoided a criminal investigation after the police watchdog found no evidence he influenced the payment of thousands of pounds of public money to her, or secured her participation in foreign trade trips he led." In the light of these disclosures, is it perhaps possible or indeed likely that investigations into his conduct at the time will be re-opened. Certainly, further embarrassment for the Prime Minister appears certain with Ms Arcuri set to produce a film about their relationship.
A film? I'm thinking "When Jenny Met Boris", a romcom starring ... oh never mind. Why should we make light of this stuff. It's not funny really.
Its not the £5m though is it. It would force a total U-Turn on furlough scheme and need a guarantee of 80% for everybody, which would be a lot more than that.
Only for those put into Tier 3.
And for the lowest paid why shouldn't it be 80% if they're forbidden by law from working?
I am not arguing for or against, I am saying why it isn't in reality £5m.
It is essential to conservatism (small 'c') that you allow institutions to develop organically and avoid the unforeseen consequences of change. Conservatism starts, or rather continues, from where you are in a measured and thoughtful way. It also avoids seeing issues as single and unrelated.
The fact that we have a head of state who is head of the church (Supreme Governor actually) is a long term historical development. A similar long term historical development is that the monarch is not absolutist, has few direct powers, is appointed by an accident of birth regulated by parliament. All these elements taken one by one are anomalous to a tidy, secular ordered mind. In the real messy world HM the Queen is among the most popular and loved people in the world. Take great care messing with the historic mix.
We also have the great good fortune of having a royal succession for nearly the next century which has every chance of being as popular as at present.
Not even Corbyn or the SNP dare to mess with this historic good fortune.
Why give public money to help people and businesses affected by Tier 3 lockdown in Manchester when you can give it to consultants, ministers' mates and Tory donors instead?
And £25 m to Jenrick's constituency. The blighted ghetto of Newark.
£45 million of public money gifted by Jenrick to property developer, pornographer and Tory Party donor Richard Desmond
I am somewhat unsure of Burnham's demands for 75 million but listening to him it seems he is costing this over a six month period.
If so no wonder the government said no because that gives them a blank cheque irrespective of how covid and the tiering proceeds. I can understand Rishi saying help is constantly reviewed but Burnham seems to accept covid is going to continue in crisis for six months
To my mind he may be the toast of Manchester but HMG has a wider responsibility to the nation and be flexible on support
I am interested if anyone else things seeking a six month settlement is unreasonable and has huge implications
Life is not returning to the normal in the next six months. By the time it does we will have forgotten what normal was.
I agree but HMG needs to review progress and adjust accordingly
You can only take this month by month, remember HMG has to judge this in the context of the whole of the UK in view of the Barnett formula
I can't comprehend what Sunak and Johnson are playing at. It is very disappointing.
Expect all six questions at PMQs to be on this issue tomorrow. If Starmer can't score off this subject he really should resign and get Burnham as LOTO.
He could be genuinely worried at the extent to which the govt is spending.
No one otherwise rationally sits down and decides to blow up their own popularity and cause a huge shitstorm.
They must have forecast that by now the virus would be in retreat and that it (the furlough) could sensibly be tapered down.
a) so much for scenario analysis; and b) expect a u-turn shortly.
The Government is spending billions not millions. Arguing over these millions is bizarre economically as well as politically.
Why give public money to help people and businesses affected by Tier 3 lockdown in Manchester when you can give it to consultants, ministers' mates and Tory donors instead?
And £25 m to Jenrick's constituency. The blighted ghetto of Newark.
£45 million of public money gifted by Jenrick to property developer, pornographer and Tory Party donor Richard Desmond
Alleged surely
He doesnt like being called a pornographer despite running Red Hot TV and having published Penthouse, Asian Babes, Readers Wives and Barely Legal! He hired Brian MacLaurin as his spin doctor 20 years ago to improve his image but he is still often referred to as a pornographer.
I am somewhat unsure of Burnham's demands for 75 million but listening to him it seems he is costing this over a six month period.
If so no wonder the government said no because that gives them a blank cheque irrespective of how covid and the tiering proceeds. I can understand Rishi saying help is constantly reviewed but Burnham seems to accept covid is going to continue in crisis for six months
To my mind he may be the toast of Manchester but HMG has a wider responsibility to the nation and be flexible on support
I am interested if anyone else things seeking a six month settlement is unreasonable and has huge implications
In terms of fiscal totals it has nothing of the sort. Why is central government so determined to micromanage local affairs - particularly when they don't seem to be making a great job of it ?
Dom Cummings and Boris Johnson, because they are never wrong.
As you saw with the trip to Durham and Barnard Castle, they can't be wrong, everyone else has to be wrong.
But it's £5m. It's a nothing amount of money. This is a victory worthy of Pyrrhus. It just looks like ministers are blind to what's happening on the ground over paltry sums of money, I mean by this it's probably true as well.
And yet it might make the difference between staying open and being shuttered for a couple of hundred small businesses which might receive a discretionary grant as a result.
This all stems from rubbish thinking from Rishi. The furlough should never have been bumped down to 67%, it should have had the limit reduced to £2000 to make savings. People like me benefit from the higher limit, people who have low paid jobs benefit from a higher proportion. The government has moved it into the wrong direction.
I agree, though personally I'd have been more radical. 100% for the lowest paid 10% to protect those on really low wages/minimum wage/part-timers, 90% for the next 10%, 80% for the next 10%...... going down to 50% but no lower for the highest paid. Redistribution and avoiding poverty - what's not to like?
The Manchester stand-off is another indication that Rishi Sunak really isn't as politically savvy as he should be - and that he may not be the saviour some Tories think he is.
Several newspapers have recently quoted Jennifer Arcuri conceding that she did indeed have an affair with Boris Johnson and was 'bombarded by passion'. The Mirror reports that "the 35-year-old businesswoman has gone on record by alleging she had an affair with the current Prime Minister between 2012 and 2016 while he was the Mayor of London" The Mirror's report continues "But the Prime Minister avoided a criminal investigation after the police watchdog found no evidence he influenced the payment of thousands of pounds of public money to her, or secured her participation in foreign trade trips he led." In the light of these disclosures, is it perhaps possible or indeed likely that investigations into his conduct at the time will be re-opened. Certainly, further embarrassment for the Prime Minister appears certain with Ms Arcuri set to produce a film about their relationship.
A film? I'm thinking "When Jenny Met Boris", a romcom starring ... oh never mind. Why should we make light of this stuff. It's not funny really.
I am not a fan of Boris's private life but he does seem to pick on women who are well able to look after themselves and know what they are doing. At least he isn't a creep.
Why give public money to help people and businesses affected by Tier 3 lockdown in Manchester when you can give it to consultants, ministers' mates and Tory donors instead?
And £25 m to Jenrick's constituency. The blighted ghetto of Newark.
£45 million of public money gifted by Jenrick to property developer, pornographer and Tory Party donor Richard Desmond
Alleged surely
He doesnt like being called a pornographer despite running Red Hot TV and having published Penthouse, Asian Babes, Readers Wives and Barely Legal! He hired Brian MacLaurin as his spin doctor 20 years ago to improve his image but he is still often referred to as a pornographer.
I thought for a moment you meant Jenrick, and was startled.
Dom Cummings and Boris Johnson, because they are never wrong.
As you saw with the trip to Durham and Barnard Castle, they can't be wrong, everyone else has to be wrong.
But it's £5m. It's a nothing amount of money. This is a victory worthy of Pyrrhus. It just looks like ministers are blind to what's happening on the ground over paltry sums of money, I mean by this it's probably true as well.
And yet it might make the difference between staying open and being shuttered for a couple of hundred small businesses which might receive a discretionary grant as a result.
This all stems from rubbish thinking from Rishi. The furlough should never have been bumped down to 67%, it should have had the limit reduced to £2000 to make savings. People like me benefit from the higher limit, people who have low paid jobs benefit from a higher proportion. The government has moved it into the wrong direction.
I agree, though personally I'd have been more radical. 100% for the lowest paid 10% to protect those on really low wages/minimum wage/part-timers, 90% for the next 10%, 80% for the next 10%...... going down to 50% but no lower for the highest paid. Redistribution and avoiding poverty - what's not to like?
100% for Minimum Wage full time and then 67% after that could have worked too but 80% in total is probably simpler.
A lower cap on the 80% as Max suggested wouldn't be as controversial.
Why give public money to help people and businesses affected by Tier 3 lockdown in Manchester when you can give it to consultants, ministers' mates and Tory donors instead?
And £25 m to Jenrick's constituency. The blighted ghetto of Newark.
£45 million of public money gifted by Jenrick to property developer, pornographer and Tory Party donor Richard Desmond
Alleged surely
He doesnt like being called a pornographer despite running Red Hot TV and having published Penthouse, Asian Babes, Readers Wives and Barely Legal! He hired Brian MacLaurin as his spin doctor 20 years ago to improve his image but he is still often referred to as a pornographer.
What was the mortality figure when we locked down in March?
281 reported on March 22nd; lockdown announced on the 23rd; 422 deaths announced on the 24th.
OK, so the figure quoted earlier was wrong. But clearly the situation is now looking comparable.
It's not quite the same, as the rate of increase (and also the uncertainties) were quite a bit higher back then - but also at that point, a lot of us were shouting that it was a week too late. (Also, we're supposed to have improved at treating the most serious patients.)
I can't comprehend what Sunak and Johnson are playing at. It is very disappointing.
Expect all six questions at PMQs to be on this issue tomorrow. If Starmer can't score off this subject he really should resign and get Burnham as LOTO.
He could be genuinely worried at the extent to which the govt is spending.
No one otherwise rationally sits down and decides to blow up their own popularity and cause a huge shitstorm.
They must have forecast that by now the virus would be in retreat and that it (the furlough) could sensibly be tapered down.
a) so much for scenario analysis; and b) expect a u-turn shortly.
The Government is spending billions not millions. Arguing over these millions is bizarre economically as well as politically.
I believe, it isn't the money at all, it is that it would require a big national U-Turn.
I can't comprehend what Sunak and Johnson are playing at. It is very disappointing.
Expect all six questions at PMQs to be on this issue tomorrow. If Starmer can't score off this subject he really should resign and get Burnham as LOTO.
He could be genuinely worried at the extent to which the govt is spending.
No one otherwise rationally sits down and decides to blow up their own popularity and cause a huge shitstorm.
They must have forecast that by now the virus would be in retreat and that it (the furlough) could sensibly be tapered down.
a) so much for scenario analysis; and b) expect a u-turn shortly.
As I said a while back, in retrospect he was too generous in the first lockdown. Of course they had to move fast and that was difficult, but it could have been a bit less generous and more targeted at the worst-hit sectors. That would have left a bit more room for support now, which was obviously going to be needed.
You are probably right on your U-turn prediction. But the U-turn we need most desperately is on the end of the transition.
Dom Cummings and Boris Johnson, because they are never wrong.
As you saw with the trip to Durham and Barnard Castle, they can't be wrong, everyone else has to be wrong.
But it's £5m. It's a nothing amount of money. This is a victory worthy of Pyrrhus. It just looks like ministers are blind to what's happening on the ground over paltry sums of money, I mean by this it's probably true as well.
And yet it might make the difference between staying open and being shuttered for a couple of hundred small businesses which might receive a discretionary grant as a result.
This all stems from rubbish thinking from Rishi. The furlough should never have been bumped down to 67%, it should have had the limit reduced to £2000 to make savings. People like me benefit from the higher limit, people who have low paid jobs benefit from a higher proportion. The government has moved it into the wrong direction.
I agree, though personally I'd have been more radical. 100% for the lowest paid 10% to protect those on really low wages/minimum wage/part-timers, 90% for the next 10%, 80% for the next 10%...... going down to 50% but no lower for the highest paid. Redistribution and avoiding poverty - what's not to like?
You're both right about the principle, though. Why was it not obvious to the chancellor ?
I believe, it isn't the money at all, it is that it would require a big national U-Turn.
The big National u-turn is coming anyway when BoZo finally announces the National Lockdown Overlapping regional temporary restrictions covering 100% of the country
I believe, it isn't the money at all, it is that it would require a big national U-Turn.
The big National u-turn is coming anyway when BoZo finally announces the National Lockdown Overlapping regional temporary restrictions covering 100% of the country
The government cannot really afford that, I don;t think. It will require huge furlough payments the government simply cannot finance any more.
£38 million loss from the offer of £60 million. Sends a message don't try to mess with this government.
The £60 million was in addition to the £22 million and for a different purpose. The £22 million is for local T&T and compliance. £60 million for support for businesses that need to close.
I can't comprehend what Sunak and Johnson are playing at. It is very disappointing.
Expect all six questions at PMQs to be on this issue tomorrow. If Starmer can't score off this subject he really should resign and get Burnham as LOTO.
He could be genuinely worried at the extent to which the govt is spending.
No one otherwise rationally sits down and decides to blow up their own popularity and cause a huge shitstorm.
They must have forecast that by now the virus would be in retreat and that it (the furlough) could sensibly be tapered down.
a) so much for scenario analysis; and b) expect a u-turn shortly.
The Government is spending billions not millions. Arguing over these millions is bizarre economically as well as politically.
For Manchester read the whole of the country shortly.
Why give public money to help people and businesses affected by Tier 3 lockdown in Manchester when you can give it to consultants, ministers' mates and Tory donors instead?
And £25 m to Jenrick's constituency. The blighted ghetto of Newark.
£45 million of public money gifted by Jenrick to property developer, pornographer and Tory Party donor Richard Desmond
Alleged surely
He doesnt like being called a pornographer despite running Red Hot TV and having published Penthouse, Asian Babes, Readers Wives and Barely Legal! He hired Brian MacLaurin as his spin doctor 20 years ago to improve his image but he is still often referred to as a pornographer.
I thought for a moment you meant Jenrick, and was startled.
Jenricks priors are far more dull, I think he claimed to be a successful entrepreneur on the campaign trail but was actually a middle manager at Christies, and he regularly seems to get confused about where he lives and what is local to him.
Why give public money to help people and businesses affected by Tier 3 lockdown in Manchester when you can give it to consultants, ministers' mates and Tory donors instead?
And £25 m to Jenrick's constituency. The blighted ghetto of Newark.
£45 million of public money gifted by Jenrick to property developer, pornographer and Tory Party donor Richard Desmond
Alleged surely
He doesnt like being called a pornographer despite running Red Hot TV and having published Penthouse, Asian Babes, Readers Wives and Barely Legal! He hired Brian MacLaurin as his spin doctor 20 years ago to improve his image but he is still often referred to as a pornographer.
I thought for a moment you meant Jenrick, and was startled.
Jenricks priors are far more dull, I think he claimed to be a successful entrepreneur on the campaign trail but was actually a middle manager at Christies, and he regularly seems to get confused about where he lives and what is local to him.
He has modelled himself on Piers Fletcher-Dervish off The New Statesman.
I can't comprehend what Sunak and Johnson are playing at. It is very disappointing.
Expect all six questions at PMQs to be on this issue tomorrow. If Starmer can't score off this subject he really should resign and get Burnham as LOTO.
He could be genuinely worried at the extent to which the govt is spending.
No one otherwise rationally sits down and decides to blow up their own popularity and cause a huge shitstorm.
They must have forecast that by now the virus would be in retreat and that it (the furlough) could sensibly be tapered down.
a) so much for scenario analysis; and b) expect a u-turn shortly.
As I said a while back, in retrospect he was too generous in the first lockdown. Of course they had to move fast and that was difficult, but it could have been a bit less generous and more targeted at the worst-hit sectors. That would have left a bit more room for support now, which was obviously going to be needed.
You are probably right on your U-turn prediction. But the U-turn we need most desperately is on the end of the transition.
Oh yes that's right - forget about shooting ourselves in the foot - we are about to saw our legs off wrt the EU.
I can't comprehend what Sunak and Johnson are playing at. It is very disappointing.
Expect all six questions at PMQs to be on this issue tomorrow. If Starmer can't score off this subject he really should resign and get Burnham as LOTO.
He could be genuinely worried at the extent to which the govt is spending.
No one otherwise rationally sits down and decides to blow up their own popularity and cause a huge shitstorm.
They must have forecast that by now the virus would be in retreat and that it (the furlough) could sensibly be tapered down.
a) so much for scenario analysis; and b) expect a u-turn shortly.
The Government is spending billions not millions. Arguing over these millions is bizarre economically as well as politically.
For Manchester read the whole of the country shortly.
They're going to go from pissing off the Mancs to pissing off everyone? Possibly.
If people aren't allowed to work they should be compensated.
If you don't want to compensate people then let them work.
I can't comprehend what Sunak and Johnson are playing at. It is very disappointing.
Expect all six questions at PMQs to be on this issue tomorrow. If Starmer can't score off this subject he really should resign and get Burnham as LOTO.
He could be genuinely worried at the extent to which the govt is spending.
No one otherwise rationally sits down and decides to blow up their own popularity and cause a huge shitstorm.
They must have forecast that by now the virus would be in retreat and that it (the furlough) could sensibly be tapered down.
a) so much for scenario analysis; and b) expect a u-turn shortly.
The Government is spending billions not millions. Arguing over these millions is bizarre economically as well as politically.
For Manchester read the whole of the country shortly.
They're going to go from pissing off the Mancs to pissing off everyone? Possibly.
If people aren't allowed to work they should be compensated.
If you don't want to compensate people then let them work.
Dom Cummings and Boris Johnson, because they are never wrong.
As you saw with the trip to Durham and Barnard Castle, they can't be wrong, everyone else has to be wrong.
But it's £5m. It's a nothing amount of money. This is a victory worthy of Pyrrhus. It just looks like ministers are blind to what's happening on the ground over paltry sums of money, I mean by this it's probably true as well.
And yet it might make the difference between staying open and being shuttered for a couple of hundred small businesses which might receive a discretionary grant as a result.
This all stems from rubbish thinking from Rishi. The furlough should never have been bumped down to 67%, it should have had the limit reduced to £2000 to make savings. People like me benefit from the higher limit, people who have low paid jobs benefit from a higher proportion. The government has moved it into the wrong direction.
I agree, though personally I'd have been more radical. 100% for the lowest paid 10% to protect those on really low wages/minimum wage/part-timers, 90% for the next 10%, 80% for the next 10%...... going down to 50% but no lower for the highest paid. Redistribution and avoiding poverty - what's not to like?
You're both right about the principle, though. Why was it not obvious to the chancellor ?
At a guess, people earning 2k-2.5k break far more Tory than those earning sub 2k?
The other day I said Boris Johnson and the government were breathtakingly incompetent but not malevolent, today I admit I was utterly wrong when I said that.
It is essential to conservatism (small 'c') that you allow institutions to develop organically and avoid the unforeseen consequences of change. Conservatism starts, or rather continues, from where you are in a measured and thoughtful way. It also avoids seeing issues as single and unrelated.
The fact that we have a head of state who is head of the church (Supreme Governor actually) is a long term historical development. A similar long term historical development is that the monarch is not absolutist, has few direct powers, is appointed by an accident of birth regulated by parliament. All these elements taken one by one are anomalous to a tidy, secular ordered mind. In the real messy world HM the Queen is among the most popular and loved people in the world. Take great care messing with the historic mix.
We also have the great good fortune of having a royal succession for nearly the next century which has every chance of being as popular as at present.
Not even Corbyn or the SNP dare to mess with this historic good fortune.
Agreed - I favour conserving both the established church and the monarchy. I am a conservative.
It's interesting how some anti-Brexiteer constitutional radicals on here are making common cause with the hardest of tungsten-tipped Brexiteers on this issue.
I can't comprehend what Sunak and Johnson are playing at. It is very disappointing.
Expect all six questions at PMQs to be on this issue tomorrow. If Starmer can't score off this subject he really should resign and get Burnham as LOTO.
He could be genuinely worried at the extent to which the govt is spending.
No one otherwise rationally sits down and decides to blow up their own popularity and cause a huge shitstorm.
They must have forecast that by now the virus would be in retreat and that it (the furlough) could sensibly be tapered down.
a) so much for scenario analysis; and b) expect a u-turn shortly.
The Government is spending billions not millions. Arguing over these millions is bizarre economically as well as politically.
For Manchester read the whole of the country shortly.
They're going to go from pissing off the Mancs to pissing off everyone? Possibly.
If people aren't allowed to work they should be compensated.
If you don't want to compensate people then let them work.
It isn't complex.
Philip.
*pause*
*more pause*
I agree.
If they do this for Manchester, they will be compelled to do it for everyone.
And they cannot afford that. They know they can't.
The other day I said Boris Johnson and the government were breathtakingly incompetent but not malevolent, today I admit I was utterly wrong when I said that.
They couldn't give a rat fuck about ordinary people. Many of us have been saying this for a long time. Yes, up north people have voted Tory in desperation having been told whatever they want they will get. Imagine their reaction when they open the box and find its got a steaming cat turd inside it.
The other day I said Boris Johnson and the government were breathtakingly incompetent but not malevolent, today I admit I was utterly wrong when I said that.
Guido is talking rubbish, the Church of England was created as a breakaway from the Catholic Church by Henry VIII so by definition it has to be the established Church with the monarch as its head otherwise as it is still a 'holy Catholic and apostolic church' it would effectively revert to its Supreme Head being the Pope
The other day I said Boris Johnson and the government were breathtakingly incompetent but not malevolent, today I admit I was utterly wrong when I said that.
Always knew Cummings was malevolent. He can’t deal emotionally with people being cleverer or more popular than him - which given his intellectual limitations and nasty character, contains a substantial slice of the population. Makes him spiteful and petty.
Guido is talking rubbish, the Church of England was created as a breakaway from the Catholic Church by Henry VIII so by definition it has to be the established Church with the monarch as its head otherwise as it is still a 'holy Catholic and apostolic church' it would effectively revert to its Supreme Head being the Pope
I can't comprehend what Sunak and Johnson are playing at. It is very disappointing.
Expect all six questions at PMQs to be on this issue tomorrow. If Starmer can't score off this subject he really should resign and get Burnham as LOTO.
He could be genuinely worried at the extent to which the govt is spending.
No one otherwise rationally sits down and decides to blow up their own popularity and cause a huge shitstorm.
They must have forecast that by now the virus would be in retreat and that it (the furlough) could sensibly be tapered down.
a) so much for scenario analysis; and b) expect a u-turn shortly.
The Government is spending billions not millions. Arguing over these millions is bizarre economically as well as politically.
For Manchester read the whole of the country shortly.
They're going to go from pissing off the Mancs to pissing off everyone? Possibly.
If people aren't allowed to work they should be compensated.
If you don't want to compensate people then let them work.
It isn't complex.
Philip.
*pause*
*more pause*
I agree.
If they do this for Manchester, they will be compelled to do it for everyone.
And they cannot afford that. They know they can't.
£5 million for 4% of the UK is "unaffordable"? Anyone got a calculator handy?
Dom Cummings and Boris Johnson, because they are never wrong.
As you saw with the trip to Durham and Barnard Castle, they can't be wrong, everyone else has to be wrong.
But it's £5m. It's a nothing amount of money. This is a victory worthy of Pyrrhus. It just looks like ministers are blind to what's happening on the ground over paltry sums of money, I mean by this it's probably true as well.
And yet it might make the difference between staying open and being shuttered for a couple of hundred small businesses which might receive a discretionary grant as a result.
This all stems from rubbish thinking from Rishi. The furlough should never have been bumped down to 67%, it should have had the limit reduced to £2000 to make savings. People like me benefit from the higher limit, people who have low paid jobs benefit from a higher proportion. The government has moved it into the wrong direction.
I agree, though personally I'd have been more radical. 100% for the lowest paid 10% to protect those on really low wages/minimum wage/part-timers, 90% for the next 10%, 80% for the next 10%...... going down to 50% but no lower for the highest paid. Redistribution and avoiding poverty - what's not to like?
It's complicated to administer. The 80% figure is easy and cheap to figure out.
Remember when I said the Tiers were confusing and would lead to chaos and PB Tories told me I was being silly, I am sure they won't admit to their being wrong
Why give public money to help people and businesses affected by Tier 3 lockdown in Manchester when you can give it to consultants, ministers' mates and Tory donors instead?
And £25 m to Jenrick's constituency. The blighted ghetto of Newark.
£45 million of public money gifted by Jenrick to property developer, pornographer and Tory Party donor Richard Desmond
Alleged surely
Nope.
Robert Jenrick admits deliberately helping Tory donor avoid £45m tax bill by rushing through housing development
Housing minister says his actions on the Westferry scheme were consistent with ‘natural justice’
While I agree that HMG should not be writing out cheques for a six month lockdown, this is a PR disaster for Boris and when you add in the refusal to grant free school meals for children during the holidays as requested by Marcus Rashford you do really have to wonder if they are being coached by Gérard Ratner
I would be very surprised if the polls do not show a marked crossover
No 10 needs a new PR representative, step forward Allegra
Guido is talking rubbish, the Church of England was created as a breakaway from the Catholic Church by Henry VIII so by definition it has to be the established Church with the monarch as its head otherwise as it is still a 'holy Catholic and apostolic church' it would effectively revert to its Supreme Head being the Pope
Er...you mean like the Methodist church?
The Methodist church is non conformist, not the established church.
The Queen is also not Supreme Governor of the Methodist Church
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The only plausible defence for this lot is that with about six exceptions no government has.
But BigG and HYUFD will defend them.
https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/1318580328857063426?s=20
It's mental, very bad politics.
It is essential to conservatism (small 'c') that you allow institutions to develop organically and avoid the unforeseen consequences of change. Conservatism starts, or rather continues, from where you are in a measured and thoughtful way. It also avoids seeing issues as single and unrelated.
The fact that we have a head of state who is head of the church (Supreme Governor actually) is a long term historical development. A similar long term historical development is that the monarch is not absolutist, has few direct powers, is appointed by an accident of birth regulated by parliament. All these elements taken one by one are anomalous to a tidy, secular ordered mind. In the real messy world HM the Queen is among the most popular and loved people in the world. Take great care messing with the historic mix.
We also have the great good fortune of having a royal succession for nearly the next century which has every chance of being as popular as at present.
Not even Corbyn or the SNP dare to mess with this historic good fortune.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/robert-jenrick-richard-desmond-housing-tory-donor-westferry-a9631876.html
You can only take this month by month, remember HMG has to judge this in the context of the whole of the UK in view of the Barnett formula
Why is central government so determined to micromanage local affairs - particularly when they don't seem to be making a great job of it ?
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1318555379345797128
Sends a message don't try to mess with this government.
The EU does not manage the health and wellbeing of UK citizens. And even if they did, I would not be cheering this.
Please can you address whether it is right to demand a six month up front payment for tier 3 at a huge cost across the whole of the UK
I do not defend Boris and expect his press conference to be a PR disaster
https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1318582068696240128?s=20
A lower cap on the 80% as Max suggested wouldn't be as controversial.
(Also, we're supposed to have improved at treating the most serious patients.)
You are probably right on your U-turn prediction. But the U-turn we need most desperately is on the end of the transition.
Why was it not obvious to the chancellor ?
To what end ?
https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-lockdown-hancock-claim/
National LockdownOverlapping regional temporary restrictions covering 100% of the countryIt is THE Geoff Parker isn't it?
This is all about not being seen to lose face.
If people aren't allowed to work they should be compensated.
If you don't want to compensate people then let them work.
It isn't complex.
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I agree.
SARS-CoV-2 sequencing reveals rapid transmission from college student clusters resulting in morbidity and deaths in vulnerable populations
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.12.20210294v1
£22m for GM.
He actually lit the blue touch paper.
It's interesting how some anti-Brexiteer constitutional radicals on here are making common cause with the hardest of tungsten-tipped Brexiteers on this issue.
Clearly, they have something in common.
And they cannot afford that. They know they can't.
But even by his standards, this is a bad one.
I would be very surprised if the polls do not show a marked crossover
No 10 needs a new PR representative, step forward Allegra
If R goes down but instead of 1000 students in an area getting the virus, 800 grandparents do, that will be fewer cases but a worse scenario.
The Queen is also not Supreme Governor of the Methodist Church