What does it amount to? Sir Humphry does not appear to be saying any more than we have been saying here for some time: that Boris does not seem to have fully recovered and that if after a few months' rest nothing improves, he might resign next year. Indeed I even posted much the same on the last thread when someone posted Rishi was 9/2.
If Sir Humphry had said Boris will resign next week, that would be useful inside information. What he actually said was already in the public domain.
Sounds as if Dom has lost patience with Boris's amateurism and sloth and has ordered him to stand down. Understandable - No-Deal Brexit and the Covid response will hardly be anything to write home about. Dom will want one last go at 'Whitehall reform' to secure him a legacy, but he won't get that with Boris, who seems increasingly bored and preoccupied.
What does it amount to? Sir Humphry does not appear to be saying any more than we have been saying here for some time: that Boris does not seem to have fully recovered and that if after a few months' rest nothing improves, he might resign next year. Indeed I even posted much the same on the last thread when someone posted Rishi was 9/2.
If Sir Humphry had said Boris will resign next week, that would be useful inside information. What he actually said was already in the public domain.
Was wondering if any PBers have had CV19 and are less than fully fit?
Sounds as if Dom has lost patience with Boris's amateurism and sloth and has ordered him to stand down. Understandable - No-Deal Brexit and the Covid response will hardly be anything to write home about. Dom will want one last go at 'Whitehall reform' to secure him a legacy, but he won't get that with Boris, who seems increasingly bored and preoccupied.
You think Dom will last three minutes once Johnson is out of the door?
Might just be reversion to and beyond the mean, but worth keeping an eye on to see if the negative effects of anti-COVID measures are starting to show up.
Sounds as if Dom has lost patience with Boris's amateurism and sloth and has ordered him to stand down. Understandable - No-Deal Brexit and the Covid response will hardly be anything to write home about. Dom will want one last go at 'Whitehall reform' to secure him a legacy, but he won't get that with Boris, who seems increasingly bored and preoccupied.
You think Dom will last three minutes once Johnson is out of the door?
I don't, he will be out the door just before Boris goes
Of course having won GE19 and delivered Brexit and beaten Corbyn, if Boris stood down in 6 months and took Cummings with him while Sunak was elected to succeed him, then Sunak could make the compromises needed to do a FTA with the EU and reduce the risk of Scottish independence and take the flack from hardline Leavers, while Boris could go off into the sunset with Carrie and Baby a martyr to Brexiteers
Of course having won GE19 and delivered Brexit and beaten Corbyn, if Boris stood down in 6 months and took Cummings with him while Sunak was elected to succeed him, then Sunak could make the compromises needed to do a FTA with the EU and reduce the risk of Scottish independence and take the flack from hardline Leavers, while Boris could go off into the sunset with Carrie and Baby a martyr to Brexiteers
Of course having won GE19 and delivered Brexit and beaten Corbyn, if Boris stood down in 6 months and took Cummings with him while Sunak was elected to succeed him, then Sunak could make the compromises needed to do a FTA with the EU and reduce the risk of Scottish independence and take the flack from hardline Leavers, while Boris could go off into the sunset with Carrie and Baby a martyr to Brexiteers
I would be content with that
If that happened, I would be worried that my alarm might be about to go off...
What's the bad news they are trying to bury, or what are they burying this under?
This by the BM seems as effective as giving money voluntarily to a mugger in the hope that they will go away.
Will the Tate be similarly brain-addled with Nick Serota as boss?
They want to be seen as doing something so they don't become the next target.
They think this is 'something' so therefore they must do it.
Nothing positive has changed and instead they've smeared the legacy of the founder of the institution and probably damaged the reputation of the institution itself too.
I don't believe it and hope it doesn't happen, though if it does then Rishi for his successor please!
My £20 bet at 250/1 with Ladbrokes on Sunak for next PM really requires an early exit by Johnson
As a matter of interest why ?
Sunak will do very very well if he still becomes PM after the economic trouble that is coming. So far he has had the good bits: doling out cash like he was a John McDonnell tribute act.
That’s an outrageous poll, using all those shapes in the clear image of London to imply only posh metropolitan types eat pasta.
I demand a Provincial Pasta Eaters Matter campaign to correct this clear injustice. Our other aims will include all members of OFQUAL to be shot along with anyone who eats pineapple on pizza.
(By the way, where is @JohnLoony these days? Along with @JackW, much missed.)
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
What’s the point of wearing a mask to go into a pub?
It’s like wearing a chastity belt to enter a brothel.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
What’s the point of wearing a mask to go into a pub?
It’s like wearing a chastity belt to enter a brothel.
Some people are wearing them once inside , but it’s beyond stupid.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
If you are stood up in a pub you should have a mask on, ridiculous to turn people away who are being careful, but then what else do you expect from Tim Martin and weatherspoons. I wouldn’t cross the threshold of any of his pubs.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
What’s the point of wearing a mask to go into a pub?
It’s like wearing a chastity belt to enter a brothel.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
If you are stood up in a pub you should have a mask on, ridiculous to turn people away who are being careful, but then what else do you expect from Tim Martin and weatherspoons. I wouldn’t cross the threshold of any of his pubs.
To be honest, if you think one transmission is one transmission too many then you shouldn’t be going to a pub.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
What’s the point of wearing a mask to go into a pub?
It’s like wearing a chastity belt to enter a brothel.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
What’s the point of wearing a mask to go into a pub?
It’s like wearing a chastity belt to enter a brothel.
Some people are wearing them once inside , but it’s beyond stupid.
No it’s not it’s respect for others and some protection for yourself.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
I don't believe it and hope it doesn't happen, though if it does then Rishi for his successor please!
My £20 bet at 250/1 with Ladbrokes on Sunak for next PM really requires an early exit by Johnson
I'm not sure it does, there's every chance the Tories might squeak home in the next election - with Johnson deciding to retire in say 2026. I think Sunak is in the frame for next Tory leader whatever happens - there's a danger of Starmer scuppering the bet via election but it's not nailed on.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
So do I.
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
What’s the point of wearing a mask to go into a pub?
It’s like wearing a chastity belt to enter a brothel.
If Johnson does quit in six months it would be entirely typical of the man. No Deal Brexit would be in full swing with Kent a lorry park, empty supermarket shelves and pharmacies struggling with meds. Time to head off.
What better time for the architect of this disaster to take up his new role as editor of the Telegraph?
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
So do I.
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
They vary in quality. The one in Woking is the town’s one redeeming feature. It’s one big building site and quite frankly they’d have been better off levelling the place to the ground and starting from scratch.
I don't believe it and hope it doesn't happen, though if it does then Rishi for his successor please!
My £20 bet at 250/1 with Ladbrokes on Sunak for next PM really requires an early exit by Johnson
I'm not sure it does, there's every chance the Tories might squeak home in the next election - with Johnson deciding to retire in say 2026. I think Sunak is in the frame for next Tory leader whatever happens - there's a danger of Starmer scuppering the bet via election but it's not nailed on.
I’m afraid labour have no chance while the likes of Long Bailey remain as a reminder of how low they reached with Corbyn.
The denial is obviously worthless, so we are left wondering why Cummings’s F-i-L would say it if there weren’t any truth in it?
Meanwhile this question of masks in school corridors is going to become the latest issue where the UK government ends up following rather than leading, isn’t it? Shown up by the Scots once again.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
So do I.
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
They vary in quality. The one in Woking is the town’s one redeeming feature. It’s one big building site and quite frankly they’d have been better off levelling the place to the ground and starting from scratch.
And they are not dog friendly, which for a British pub is a big black mark.
Humphrey Wakefield is very close to Boris Johnson.
His daughter Mary (wife of Dom) spent many years working for Boris Johnson at the Spectator.
So....
Maybe Boris asked HW to fly a kite for him? Boris can wave the flag on 1st January and make his usual bombastic noises and announce that Brexit is done and off he goes leaving the mess behind.
The denial is obviously worthless, so we are left wondering why Cummings’s F-i-L would say it if there weren’t any truth in it?
Meanwhile this question of masks in school corridors is going to become the latest issue where the UK government ends up following rather than leading, isn’t it? Shown up by the Scots once again.
Surely they should have just said a week ago that for teachers and pupils over 11 it was up to them if they wore one. I said the other day that HMG was on course for another crisis of communication if nothing else.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
So do I.
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
They vary in quality. The one in Woking is the town’s one redeeming feature. It’s one big building site and quite frankly they’d have been better off levelling the place to the ground and starting from scratch.
And they are not dog friendly, which for a British pub is a big black mark.
Spooky, my dad was literally just praising Spoons for that policy. You pays your money, you takes your choice.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
So do I.
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
They vary in quality. The one in Woking is the town’s one redeeming feature. It’s one big building site and quite frankly they’d have been better off levelling the place to the ground and starting from scratch.
The thing that always put me off Wetherspoons was the one in Piccadilly Gardens, the only I've ever seen anything kick off majorly* in Manchester was people fighting outside/getting kicked out of that 'Spoons.
*Excluding the time the Glaswegians trashed Manchester in 2008.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
So do I.
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
They vary in quality. The one in Woking is the town’s one redeeming feature. It’s one big building site and quite frankly they’d have been better off levelling the place to the ground and starting from scratch.
The thing that always put me off Wetherspoons was the one in Piccadilly Gardens, the only I've ever seen anything kick off majorly* in Manchester was people fighting outside/getting kicked out of that 'Spoons.
*Excluding the time the Glaswegians trashed Manchester in 2008.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
If you are stood up in a pub you should have a mask on, ridiculous to turn people away who are being careful, but then what else do you expect from Tim Martin and weatherspoons. I wouldn’t cross the threshold of any of his pubs.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
So do I.
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
They vary in quality. The one in Woking is the town’s one redeeming feature. It’s one big building site and quite frankly they’d have been better off levelling the place to the ground and starting from scratch.
The thing that always put me off Wetherspoons was the one in Piccadilly Gardens, the only I've ever seen anything kick off majorly* in Manchester was people fighting outside/getting kicked out of that 'Spoons.
*Excluding the time the Glaswegians trashed Manchester in 2008.
** Brittanic Glaswegians.
Either way they were the most savage Scots to come to England since Alan Rickman's Sheriff of Nottingham hired those Scots in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves to trash Sherwood Forest.
If Johnson does quit in six months it would be entirely typical of the man. No Deal Brexit would be in full swing with Kent a lorry park, empty supermarket shelves and pharmacies struggling with meds. Time to head off.
What better time for the architect of this disaster to take up his new role as editor of the Telegraph?
Based on recent trajectory, by then the Telegraph will have sunk down to his level, as well.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
So do I.
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
They vary in quality. The one in Woking is the town’s one redeeming feature. It’s one big building site and quite frankly they’d have been better off levelling the place to the ground and starting from scratch.
The thing that always put me off Wetherspoons was the one in Piccadilly Gardens, the only I've ever seen anything kick off majorly* in Manchester was people fighting outside/getting kicked out of that 'Spoons.
*Excluding the time the Glaswegians trashed Manchester in 2008.
** Brittanic Glaswegians.
Either way they were the most savage Scots to come to England since Alan Rickman's Sheriff of Nottingham hired those Scots in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves to trash Sherwood Forest.
Just needed one of BJ's water cannons loaded up with holy water, problem solved.
Having lunch in Spoons. Guy on the door won’t let people in who are wearing a mask, which I think makes sense. Either they think they might have it or they are worried they might get it. Either way they shouldn’t be going into a pub.
Going to ‘spoons should see you cancelled.
I thought mentioning Spoons would trigger some people on here.
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
So do I.
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
They vary in quality. The one in Woking is the town’s one redeeming feature. It’s one big building site and quite frankly they’d have been better off levelling the place to the ground and starting from scratch.
The thing that always put me off Wetherspoons was the one in Piccadilly Gardens, the only I've ever seen anything kick off majorly* in Manchester was people fighting outside/getting kicked out of that 'Spoons.
*Excluding the time the Glaswegians trashed Manchester in 2008.
** Brittanic Glaswegians.
Either way they were the most savage Scots to come to England since Alan Rickman's Sheriff of Nottingham hired those Scots in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves to trash Sherwood Forest.
Just needed one of BJ's water cannons loaded up with holy water, problem solved.
I've been wonderingf when someone would start going on about Rangers FC Vs Manc City Centre.
Did he have a bridge for sale as well? Netanyahu would be as likely to buy that as a two state solution.
Two state as a concept is essentially dead, given the situation on the ground. A federal one-state with considerable autonomy for the areas of significant non-Jewish population, equal rights and participation in the state, whilst leaving Israel in control of security and foreign affairs is now a far more realistic objective.
Mind you it does answer the question who on earth would want to take over the complete mess that is Deutsche Bank
Deutsche Bank has been very ecumenical in which German* politicians/parties they support. If anything... difficult... was to happen to DB, the entire German political establishment would be covered in poo.
This TooBigToFail multiplied by TheyKnowWhereAllTheBodiesAreBuried.
*And other countries - Trump is part of the rule, not the exception. They have lent money to everyone....
I don't believe it and hope it doesn't happen, though if it does then Rishi for his successor please!
My £20 bet at 250/1 with Ladbrokes on Sunak for next PM really requires an early exit by Johnson
I'm not sure it does, there's every chance the Tories might squeak home in the next election - with Johnson deciding to retire in say 2026. I think Sunak is in the frame for next Tory leader whatever happens - there's a danger of Starmer scuppering the bet via election but it's not nailed on.
I’m afraid labour have no chance while the likes of Long Bailey remain as a reminder of how low they reached with Corbyn.
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If Sir Humphry had said Boris will resign next week, that would be useful inside information. What he actually said was already in the public domain.
https://twitter.com/EveningStandard/status/1298166916574523392
Good day to bury bad news...
Get in!
Or rather, get out!!
I'm green on him to go any time before Oct 2021.
Was wondering if any PBers have had CV19 and are less than fully fit?
This by the BM seems as effective as giving money voluntarily to a mugger in the hope that they will go away.
Will the Tate be similarly brain-addled with Nick Serota as boss?
https://mobile.twitter.com/ONS/status/1298176970681987077
Might just be reversion to and beyond the mean, but worth keeping an eye on to see if the negative effects of anti-COVID measures are starting to show up.
Timothy Dalton should be at least second.
My wife: who's Sir Keir Starmer?
Cut through.
They think this is 'something' so therefore they must do it.
Nothing positive has changed and instead they've smeared the legacy of the founder of the institution and probably damaged the reputation of the institution itself too.
Spaghetti hoops.
I demand a Provincial Pasta Eaters Matter campaign to correct this clear injustice. Our other aims will include all members of OFQUAL to be shot along with anyone who eats pineapple on pizza.
(By the way, where is @JohnLoony these days? Along with @JackW, much missed.)
It's like Ant and Dec - you're never quite sure which is which, however many times you remind yourself.
It’s like wearing a chastity belt to enter a brothel.
https://www7.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2020/01/12/when-will-boris-johnson-cease-to-be-prime-minister/
But the YouGov poll shows the poor taste from the country that thinks pineapple is an acceptable topping on pizza.
https://twitter.com/jamesjohnson252/status/1298227274085470208
And if that was the case his number 2 is likely to carry the can with him.
So either Boris leaves early and Sunak takes over or Boris stays until he's forced out in which case Sunak is probably broken goods.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/08/24/resurgent-us-economy-could-presidents-trump-card/
I give Spoons a better chance of surviving than many other chains.
His daughter Mary (wife of Dom) spent many years working for Boris Johnson at the Spectator.
So....
Price wise they seem to be much better than their competitors.
Full disclosure, I too have been in a Wetherspoons. Just the once.
What better time for the architect of this disaster to take up his new role as editor of the Telegraph?
Meanwhile this question of masks in school corridors is going to become the latest issue where the UK government ends up following rather than leading, isn’t it? Shown up by the Scots once again.
https://twitter.com/davidmwessel/status/1298226154801901568
Mind you it does answer the question who on earth would want to take over the complete mess that is Deutsche Bank
https://twitter.com/mtm990553/status/1298219321999720448?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1298219321999720448|twgr^&ref_url=https://vf.politicalbetting.com/discussion/8975/undefined-discussion-subject/p5
No need to buy toilet paper this week then.
*Excluding the time the Glaswegians trashed Manchester in 2008.
https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/1298233236204793857
Confident forward-looking nations don’t obsess about shite like this.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1298225507499114497?s=20
17% return available to be paid in 10mins!
This TooBigToFail multiplied by TheyKnowWhereAllTheBodiesAreBuried.
*And other countries - Trump is part of the rule, not the exception. They have lent money to everyone....