Professor Karl Friston (UCL) Professor Sunetra Gupta (Oxon) Professor Carl Heneghan (Oxon)
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Is the Boffin' Boffin currently a GOOD or BAD scientist?
It's hard to keep up!!
As pointed out earlier, the differences between the Nordic countries seems to demolish his theory right off the bat.
I'd hazard a wild guess that you haven't actually watched the 34-minute interview.
No, I read the summary posted here, in particular the first point:
The differences between countries are not primarily down to government actions, but due to 'intrinsic' differences in the populations
Yup. Thought so. Watch the tape when you get chance.
Is the statement wrong?
It's only part of his answer. Watch the tape.
Care to fill us in on what the second part was which completely changes the meaning of the first?
Not really. Watch the tape and listen to his analysis. I'm not here to summarise the work of one of the UK's finest neuroscientists.
If it was so easy to debunk based on what he said I'm not sure why you are so hesitant to do so.
For crying out loud – watch the tape, you lazy sod.
Intrinsic immunity is one factor. There are other factors – such as geographical and behavioural – which achieve the same effect, all of which combine to create an effective non-susceptibility of 50%.
WATCH THE TAPE IF YOU ARE INTERESTED
What if the behavioural component was removed? Because isn't the central premise of lockdown skeptics that they want to get rid of the lockdown. Without that, there should be virtually no difference between the Nordic countries.
Norway reckon it would have made no difference if they hadn't locked down, in hindsight. If they hadn't, I wonder what people would be saying now?
Did all those people really need to die?
The argument that lockdown was not necessary when there was a potentially lethal virus at large in an uncontrolled way in our society is frankly just ridiculous. There are arguments about whether we did lockdown early enough or too soon or whether we could have done it differently in different parts of the country. There are certainly arguments to be had about how we get out of it and share the costs. But for a densely populated island like this one there really was no alternative.
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
The new Scottish office minister was born in Hamilton and went to school in Glasgow.
He is Scottish, he just represents an English seat
Your lot howled when Labour and LD MPs from Scotland voted on English matters (a sentiment the SNP entirely sympathise with).
Also - do you think race/genetics/blood rather than voter representation is more important?
That's a point. Presumably the new under-assistant, deputy panjandrum won't be voting on the Scotland only matters that he's supposed to be helping to formulate?
HY is a blood and soil nationalist.
You gotta laugh at Tories. Remember when they screamed their heads off at a jock being their prime minister.
Your the supporter of the Nationalist party not me.
Personally I also never questioned Brown's right to be PM under our parliamentary system
Let’s be honest @HYUFD the current incarnation of the Conservative Party is simply the English National Party.
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
The new Scottish office minister was born in Hamilton and went to school in Glasgow.
He is Scottish, he just represents an English seat
Your lot howled when Labour and LD MPs from Scotland voted on English matters (a sentiment the SNP entirely sympathise with).
Also - do you think race/genetics/blood rather than voter representation is more important?
That's a point. Presumably the new under-assistant, deputy panjandrum won't be voting on the Scotland only matters that he's supposed to be helping to formulate?
HY is a blood and soil nationalist.
You gotta laugh at Tories. Remember when they screamed their heads off at a jock being their prime minister.
I think it was him being Labour that caused that.
What, not him being a 'one-eyed Scottish idiot'?
You think the main reason for them supposedly "screaming their heads off" was because he was Scottish?
Who said main? I think it was a factor. Unlike Blair, Brown was very identifiably Scottish, regardless of all the Gascoigne goal luvvin', Arctic Monkeys fandom pish he tried. Of course the opposite also applies, why do you think David 'English' Cameron was kept away from any real live Jocks during the indy campaign?
Yet IIRC he would never admit to being Scottish but only British, at least in his PM years. I think only an American radio lady managed to extract that admission ever, was that not the case?
Yep, I guess so. That made the fact that his every utterance was laden with the Fife infused, cumbersome tones of the manse even more ridiculous.
You'ds think it was impossioble to be Scottish AND 'British'.
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
The new Scottish office minister was born in Hamilton and went to school in Glasgow.
He is Scottish, he just represents an English seat
Your lot howled when Labour and LD MPs from Scotland voted on English matters (a sentiment the SNP entirely sympathise with).
Also - do you think race/genetics/blood rather than voter representation is more important?
That's a point. Presumably the new under-assistant, deputy panjandrum won't be voting on the Scotland only matters that he's supposed to be helping to formulate?
HY is a blood and soil nationalist.
You gotta laugh at Tories. Remember when they screamed their heads off at a jock being their prime minister.
I think it was him being Labour that caused that.
What, not him being a 'one-eyed Scottish idiot'?
You think the main reason for them supposedly "screaming their heads off" was because he was Scottish?
Who said main? I think it was a factor. Unlike Blair, Brown was very identifiably Scottish, regardless of all the Gascoigne goal luvvin', Arctic Monkeys fandom pish he tried. Of course the opposite also applies, why do you think David 'English' Cameron was kept away from any real live Jocks during the indy campaign?
I thought it was a mistake not using Cameron more during the campaign. For all that I was not a fan, he was a good speechmaker, and the one speech he made to an audience of corporates in Edinburgh was well done. I watched it with a Scottish colleague who afterwards said 'there, that was all he needed to say'. I also didn't see any harm in him being publicly heckled - Blair would have just gone for it and got some sympathy out of it.
I completely disagree with you about Brown's Scottishness getting him abused. There's a huge perception gap here between slight intended and slight taken and internalised. It is very hard for an English person who hasn't spent time in Scotland to understand.
I was on a different politics blog back then and I recall that Brown being a Scot - or more accurately being both Brown AND a Scot - was a source of much negative sentiment from a particular type of (nearly always male) English Tory.
Did anyone see the Piers Morgan - RudyGiuliani interview?
Moron1: Your mum's a puss Moron2: No, your mom's a puss Moron1: No, your mum's a puss Moron2: No, your mom! Moron1: YOUR MUM! And I've shagged your sister.
I know that Moron has really stuck the boot into the government over them not coming on the show. But I can kind of see why.
Morons the lot of them.
It could be worse though, we could be CNN, who had their anchor Chris Cuomo interview New York Governor Andrew Cuomo - yes, his brother - about why NY state had the highest death rate in the USA.
Ha, only joking, about how much fun it is to get tested, no mention at all of the massive death rate.
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
The new Scottish office minister was born in Hamilton and went to school in Glasgow.
He is Scottish, he just represents an English seat
Your lot howled when Labour and LD MPs from Scotland voted on English matters (a sentiment the SNP entirely sympathise with).
Also - do you think race/genetics/blood rather than voter representation is more important?
That's a point. Presumably the new under-assistant, deputy panjandrum won't be voting on the Scotland only matters that he's supposed to be helping to formulate?
HY is a blood and soil nationalist.
You gotta laugh at Tories. Remember when they screamed their heads off at a jock being their prime minister.
Your the supporter of the Nationalist party not me.
Personally I also never questioned Brown's right to be PM under our parliamentary system
Let’s be honest @HYUFD the current incarnation of the Conservative Party is simply the English National Party.
The Tories now have more Scottish and Welsh MPs than they did from 1997 until 2017
The idea that a fictional character character can't interchange racially over time is ridiculous.
Unless the race of the character is integral to the story. For example, Atticus Finch must be white.
He must also be Gregory Peck imo but that is probably just me.
Well it's central to that version of the story, but TKAM could be made with a Hindu Finch and Muslim or Sikh Tom? The only aspect that needs to remain for the story to make sense is a difference between Tom and the rest
For me that would be a work "inspired by" rather than the real thing. But I take the point.
If Finch is non-white, the story would need considerable changes to reflect the reality of what the character Finch has to deal with and the difference to the narrator (his daughter) of his different social position.
I think it would need to transfer to another place and time entirely. The story drips in USA dixie 1950s slavery ambience. You could do something equivalent but not the same set somewhere else with a different pair of oppressor oppressed groupings.
Some reflections on TKAM in this interesting tweet.
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
I will defer to our actual Scottish posters on this (and we can always rely on Malc for a fair and balanced appraisal of the situation), but right now it looks to me as if the Conservatives are going to get absolutely, utterly, walloped in the Holyrood elections next year. As in a panda-level event.
I would say Tories in Scotland have solid bedrock of 20%, who are the "British rather than Scottish" crowd. More than panda-level. The Tories have nothing to offer the other 80% however. The Ruth Davidson brand of unionism has been comprehensively trashed by the Brexit Party insurgency, aka the Conservative Party.
It has never been successfully explained to me why people can't be both British and Scottish.
Ask HYUFD why he can’t be both European and British.
I never said you can't, I have a British passport and voted Remain
You said only a few days ago that Britain was not part of Europe.
Of course Britain is part of Europe. Not wanting to belong to a political organisation doesn't change the geography.
Of course Scotland is part of Britain. Not wanting to belong to a political organisation doesn't change the geography.
Quite. Britain is an island, not a country. Hence why SNP wants to "break up Britain" is a daft line – as far as I know few nationalists advocate installing some sort of giant jigsaw to run through the Cheviots.
But Britain is often used as shorthand for "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", and from that point of view, it makes perfect sense.
England is often used as shorthand for the UK.
Doesn't make it right.
Indeed. I've stopped using Britain/British in any context at all where UK is the correct wording. Above all in politics where to use 'Britain' begs the question of whether you include the Irish and Manx bits or not.
What alternative to 'British' do you use to describe the population of the UK?
UK subjects.
That is correct whilst not quite working in the way I'm envisaging.
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
The new Scottish office minister was born in Hamilton and went to school in Glasgow.
He is Scottish, he just represents an English seat
Your lot howled when Labour and LD MPs from Scotland voted on English matters (a sentiment the SNP entirely sympathise with).
Also - do you think race/genetics/blood rather than voter representation is more important?
That's a point. Presumably the new under-assistant, deputy panjandrum won't be voting on the Scotland only matters that he's supposed to be helping to formulate?
HY is a blood and soil nationalist.
You gotta laugh at Tories. Remember when they screamed their heads off at a jock being their prime minister.
Your the supporter of the Nationalist party not me.
Personally I also never questioned Brown's right to be PM under our parliamentary system
Let’s be honest @HYUFD the current incarnation of the Conservative Party is simply the English National Party.
You say that like its a bad thing.
Its a bad thing for the Conservative and Unionist Party to utterly discard the union and be a nationalist / populist party for only one part of the union? Yeah, I'd think so
Interesting to hear the editor of the Guardian say yesterday that they had decided to do a feature comparing the stories of health workers in the UK, US and Australia who had died of Coronavirus, but the Australian Guardian came back and said they didn't have any who had died.
The reason we have the worst stats is that we are the best at collecting them.
In regard to the black lives matters march yesterday in the UK, I wonder why people just shrug when almost on a daily basis a black teenager stabs to death another black teenager just becuase of the street that he lives in. Why is there not a march about this, don't these black lives matter?
Yes, I think you are beginning to understand how systemic racism works.
BLM is about combating systemic racism.
Young kids in London stabbing each other is nothing to do with race its to do with drugs
And drug dealing is usually related to lack of role models and other opportunities.
Which sadly is a far greater issue for Black males than any other group (including white working class males)
Correct, and has been for decades. I'm not sure how you persuade young black people to take parenthood more seriously.
Here’s an example of everyday racism on my part regarding cultural depictions. A few months ago I watched the Mary Queen of Scots movie with Saoirse Ronan. It is very unlikely that Mary spoke with a heavy Scots accent as she was portrayed, having spent virtually all her childhood in France, and I knew that. However, halfway through I noticed I was less bothered by how Mary sounded than how Thomas Randolph, who was played by black actor Adrian Lester, looked. Neither was I as bothered that Margot Robbie is much much better looking than the historical Elizabeth I. My brain had been trained to ignore those historical inaccuracies, and the many others in the film, save for the amount of melanin in one actor’s skin. That’s systemic racism showing in someone who tries really really hard not to be racist.
Similarly we have no problem with James Bond having a Scots, English, Irish or indeed Australian accent, having brown or blue eyes, chest hair or no chest hair, but if a black actor is ever cast in the role we all know how the usual suspects will react.
More likely your brain registered it was historically inaccurate, just as you would have been amazed if Kunta Kinte in Roots had been played by a white actor. Just your woke self jumping on the bandwagon and then trying to get your racist smear in at the end without having the courage to say that you meant white racists.
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
The new Scottish office minister was born in Hamilton and went to school in Glasgow.
He is Scottish, he just represents an English seat
Your lot howled when Labour and LD MPs from Scotland voted on English matters (a sentiment the SNP entirely sympathise with).
Also - do you think race/genetics/blood rather than voter representation is more important?
That's a point. Presumably the new under-assistant, deputy panjandrum won't be voting on the Scotland only matters that he's supposed to be helping to formulate?
HY is a blood and soil nationalist.
You gotta laugh at Tories. Remember when they screamed their heads off at a jock being their prime minister.
Your the supporter of the Nationalist party not me.
Personally I also never questioned Brown's right to be PM under our parliamentary system
You do like to add that extra "ist" at the end, proving yet agaion your total dumbness on matters Scottish.
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
The new Scottish office minister was born in Hamilton and went to school in Glasgow.
He is Scottish, he just represents an English seat
Your lot howled when Labour and LD MPs from Scotland voted on English matters (a sentiment the SNP entirely sympathise with).
Also - do you think race/genetics/blood rather than voter representation is more important?
That's a point. Presumably the new under-assistant, deputy panjandrum won't be voting on the Scotland only matters that he's supposed to be helping to formulate?
HY is a blood and soil nationalist.
You gotta laugh at Tories. Remember when they screamed their heads off at a jock being their prime minister.
Your the supporter of the Nationalist party not me.
Personally I also never questioned Brown's right to be PM under our parliamentary system
Let’s be honest @HYUFD the current incarnation of the Conservative Party is simply the English National Party.
The Tories now have more Scottish and Welsh MPs than they did from 1997 until 2017
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
I will defer to our actual Scottish posters on this (and we can always rely on Malc for a fair and balanced appraisal of the situation), but right now it looks to me as if the Conservatives are going to get absolutely, utterly, walloped in the Holyrood elections next year. As in a panda-level event.
I would say Tories in Scotland have solid bedrock of 20%, who are the "British rather than Scottish" crowd. More than panda-level. The Tories have nothing to offer the other 80% however. The Ruth Davidson brand of unionism has been comprehensively trashed by the Brexit Party insurgency, aka the Conservative Party.
It has never been successfully explained to me why people can't be both British and Scottish.
Ask HYUFD why he can’t be both European and British.
I never said you can't, I have a British passport and voted Remain
You said only a few days ago that Britain was not part of Europe.
Of course Britain is part of Europe. Not wanting to belong to a political organisation doesn't change the geography.
Of course Scotland is part of Britain. Not wanting to belong to a political organisation doesn't change the geography.
Quite. Britain is an island, not a country. Hence why SNP wants to "break up Britain" is a daft line – as far as I know few nationalists advocate installing some sort of giant jigsaw to run through the Cheviots.
But Britain is often used as shorthand for "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", and from that point of view, it makes perfect sense.
England is often used as shorthand for the UK.
Doesn't make it right.
Indeed. I've stopped using Britain/British in any context at all where UK is the correct wording. Above all in politics where to use 'Britain' begs the question of whether you include the Irish and Manx bits or not.
What alternative to 'British' do you use to describe the population of the UK?
UK subjects.
LOL I heard old baw face Carlaw on radio this morning, he sounded as if he was sooking a bag of lemons. The Tories in Scotland are going to get an awful humping , best they can hope for is that the LOL and a few toffs wanting baubles stick with them. They will be fighting like ferrets in a sack to get on the list and ensure they get some consolation losers seats.
Jackson Carlaw, Leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. twisting the knife into BoZo’s belly just now on BBC Radio Scotland. He says, repeatedly, that he is “not wholly convinced” by Dominic Cummings’ explanation for his actions.
Classic code for “the man’s a liar”.
Astonishingly, Carlaw has not spoken to his boss BoZo in months. They have only exchanged two text messages since The Clown was released from hospital.
Carlaw sounds like a drowning man, unable to affect either his opponents nor his (supposed) allies.
The Milton Keynes appointee is a real kick in the groin.
MK? *googles for land of concrete coos* Ah - now I see. Blood is sure thicker than residence when it comes to Tories. But what a dunt in the baws to the actual Scottish Tories. Remiunds me of the day when the Scottish Office was run by a MP from Weston-Super-Mare IIRC.
I will defer to our actual Scottish posters on this (and we can always rely on Malc for a fair and balanced appraisal of the situation), but right now it looks to me as if the Conservatives are going to get absolutely, utterly, walloped in the Holyrood elections next year. As in a panda-level event.
I would say Tories in Scotland have solid bedrock of 20%, who are the "British rather than Scottish" crowd. More than panda-level. The Tories have nothing to offer the other 80% however. The Ruth Davidson brand of unionism has been comprehensively trashed by the Brexit Party insurgency, aka the Conservative Party.
It has never been successfully explained to me why people can't be both British and Scottish.
Ask HYUFD why he can’t be both European and British.
I never said you can't, I have a British passport and voted Remain
You said only a few days ago that Britain was not part of Europe.
Of course Britain is part of Europe. Not wanting to belong to a political organisation doesn't change the geography.
Of course Scotland is part of Britain. Not wanting to belong to a political organisation doesn't change the geography.
Quite. Britain is an island, not a country. Hence why SNP wants to "break up Britain" is a daft line – as far as I know few nationalists advocate installing some sort of giant jigsaw to run through the Cheviots.
But Britain is often used as shorthand for "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", and from that point of view, it makes perfect sense.
England is often used as shorthand for the UK.
Doesn't make it right.
Indeed. I've stopped using Britain/British in any context at all where UK is the correct wording. Above all in politics where to use 'Britain' begs the question of whether you include the Irish and Manx bits or not.
Even Scotland or Wales, for majority Britain = England.
LOL I heard old baw face Carlaw on radio this morning, he sounded as if he was sooking a bag of lemons. The Tories in Scotland are going to get an awful humping , best they can hope for is that the LOL and a few toffs wanting baubles stick with them. They will be fighting like ferrets in a sack to get on the list and ensure they get some consolation losers seats.
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The argument that lockdown was not necessary when there was a potentially lethal virus at large in an uncontrolled way in our society is frankly just ridiculous. There are arguments about whether we did lockdown early enough or too soon or whether we could have done it differently in different parts of the country. There are certainly arguments to be had about how we get out of it and share the costs. But for a densely populated island like this one there really was no alternative.
It could be worse though, we could be CNN, who had their anchor Chris Cuomo interview New York Governor Andrew Cuomo - yes, his brother - about why NY state had the highest death rate in the USA.
Ha, only joking, about how much fun it is to get tested, no mention at all of the massive death rate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thv_gJ4EpHw
NEW THREAD
Not that I can come up with anything better.
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LOL I heard old baw face Carlaw on radio this morning, he sounded as if he was sooking a bag of lemons. The Tories in Scotland are going to get an awful humping , best they can hope for is that the LOL and a few toffs wanting baubles stick with them. They will be fighting like ferrets in a sack to get on the list and ensure they get some consolation losers seats.