I can see the case for wolves and lynx, and beavers are already being re-established, but reintroducing bears seems as plausible as my niece, who when young told her parents that she’d like to adopt a gorilla because “we have a big back garden and it would be no trouble”.
Surely the bears would 'go' in the woods, where, by all accounts they do have toilet facilities.
Woods, like many public lavatory facilities, can be few and far between however.
Especially when the HS2 cheerleaders want to chop so many down.
Can we declare HS2 dead yet?
i doubt it. Big, profitable infrastructure projects funded by borrowing are likely to be more important in an economic crisis, not less - and HS2 is one of the few that’s ready to go.
Well it's certainly big, and infrastructure. And I agree that a lot of it has already started and needs some sort of workable resolution. Personally I think I'd take it as far as Aylesbury and build some sort of new garden commuter town, like Milton Keynes if Milton Keynes wasn't a dystopian ****hole. Admittedly that's not an informed conclusion, just an idea.
What good is linking Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, Liverpool, Glasgow... to Aylesbury and not continue to London?
Oh, you meant only building the southern section and f* off the north as is the usual approach no doubt
Dodds is Scottish, so no doubt will attract the ire and hatred of the Cybernats for being a 'treacherous yoon'.
You're no doubt fondly remembering the days when folk in Scotland were bothered about what went on in Labour. The overwhelming reaction even amongst those who have a passing interest will be 'who she'.
Unfortunately, I fear you may be right. Had a look on a few prominent Cybernats' twitter accounts today - who five years ago were constantly slamming Milliband and Murphy - and the only reaction to SKS' elevation was a shrug of the shoulders from the Rev. of Bath. Still, if Labour can eventually attract their ire again once more, that would probably mean they might actually be on the road to some kind of recovery in Scotland. Better to be hated than ignored.
It will be a long long time if ever before those clowns recover, until they support independence they are dead in the water.
A hospital has asked people not to come to its accident and emergency department until further notice, saying it is running out of oxygen. Watford General Hospital has declared a critical incident and said any emergency patients should go to other hospitals with A&E units. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-52151694
The oxygen question came up last week. (Demand levels are unprecedented, and some hospitals have had to replumb systems to accommodate.) Matt Hancock said it ought to be no problem, but I guess demand rose faster than expected.
Hancock on the ball as ever , bit like their supposedly ever increasing testing. All just bollox as they promise more and more but reality is just not there. Good talk but crap reality.
Oxygen supply will be limited by the capacity of the ambient vaporisers to vaporise the liquid oxygen, not by the capability of BOC et al to deliver liquid oxygen to the hospital.
HS2 Northern Ltd has just been registered at Companies House.
Will deliver HS2 Phase 2 and NPR.
HS2 is a fascinating issue in terms of the cross section of opinions you get. On PB, you have Manchester Kurt aggressively supporting it because he thinks it will be good for the North, because too much is spent on London, and Alastair Meeks opposing it, presumably for the same reason, because he feels it's London subsidising the inbred yokels of the provinces. On the other side, you have Northerners vigorously opposed to it, because they think it's being done purely to increase London's talent pool at the expense of the provinces, and Londoners, who support it for the same reason. It's like a strange matrix or flow chart.
Brilliant article. It is time we faced up to these questions.
Agreed. Trouble is that Dr Shipman and similar cases make it even less likely patients will be given sufficient pain relief, never mind voluntary euthenasia. A pain-free death ought to be a human right.
Agree. I think this subject is being discussed in many different countries. I feel strongly that elderly patients with terminal illness should be kept pain free but in many cases allowed to die. The problem always comes back to how can we reliably know that vulnerable elderly are making the choice they want to, and are not being cajoled into death by relatives or doctors. Dr. Shipman was a hopefully never to be repeated case. But there will be more than a few doctors around who care more about their careers, and hence the financial situation of their unit than the patients.
From the looks of it, the vast majority in their 20s/30s. The wrong message took hold, that the old die from it, when it should have been that all except those under ten will suffer from it.
Time they tazered these clowns
The police were chasing a whole 2 people from a the green patch in a local square. Given that the literal 2 people were at least 50 yards apart....
Dodds is Scottish, so no doubt will attract the ire and hatred of the Cybernats for being a 'treacherous yoon'.
You're no doubt fondly remembering the days when folk in Scotland were bothered about what went on in Labour. The overwhelming reaction even amongst those who have a passing interest will be 'who she'.
Unionists must be desperate when cockroaches like randall are activated
HS2 Northern Ltd has just been registered at Companies House.
Will deliver HS2 Phase 2 and NPR.
HS2 is a fascinating issue in terms of the cross section of opinions you get. On PB, you have Manchester Kurt aggressively supporting it because he thinks it will be good for the North, because too much is spent on London, and Alastair Meeks opposing it, presumably for the same reason, because he feels it's London subsidising the inbred yokels of the provinces. On the other side, you have Northerners vigorously opposed to it, because they think it's being done purely to increase London's talent pool at the expense of the provinces, and Londoners, who support it for the same reason. It's like a strange matrix or flow chart.
and what is the position away from this forum, from the northern business community, the northern politicians etc. ?
This place is not representative of how there is very great support across the business and politicians of the north. not remotely represetative.
I can see the case for wolves and lynx, and beavers are already being re-established, but reintroducing bears seems as plausible as my niece, who when young told her parents that she’d like to adopt a gorilla because “we have a big back garden and it would be no trouble”.
Surely the bears would 'go' in the woods, where, by all accounts they do have toilet facilities.
Woods, like many public lavatory facilities, can be few and far between however.
Especially when the HS2 cheerleaders want to chop so many down.
Can we declare HS2 dead yet?
i doubt it. Big, profitable infrastructure projects funded by borrowing are likely to be more important in an economic crisis, not less - and HS2 is one of the few that’s ready to go.
Can we call those opposed to HS2 who think it won't happen brain dead yet ?
Oh it will probably happen. Doesn't mean it should do. It is those supporting this outdated and unnecessary project who are the brain dead.
The end of world civilisation would have no effect on the choo-choo fanatics demanding their obsession.
From the looks of it, the vast majority in their 20s/30s. The wrong message took hold, that the old die from it, when it should have been that all except those under ten will suffer from it.
Well there were a few PB posters who were saying similar things about a month ago, such as the under 40s should carry on as normal to keep the economy going.
Plenty Tories on here only interested in their own pockets, some will be socialists soon when they are on their uppers and realise they have joined the poor etc that they used to decry as spongers
From the looks of it, the vast majority in their 20s/30s. The wrong message took hold, that the old die from it, when it should have been that all except those under ten will suffer from it.
Time they tazered these clowns
The police were chasing a whole 2 people from a the green patch in a local square. Given that the literal 2 people were at least 50 yards apart....
The trouble is if you ignore the two the number rises exponentially.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
HS2 Northern Ltd has just been registered at Companies House.
Will deliver HS2 Phase 2 and NPR.
HS2 is a fascinating issue in terms of the cross section of opinions you get. On PB, you have Manchester Kurt aggressively supporting it because he thinks it will be good for the North, because too much is spent on London, and Alastair Meeks opposing it, presumably for the same reason, because he feels it's London subsidising the inbred yokels of the provinces. On the other side, you have Northerners vigorously opposed to it, because they think it's being done purely to increase London's talent pool at the expense of the provinces, and Londoners, who support it for the same reason. It's like a strange matrix or flow chart.
and what is the position away from this forum, from the northern business community, the northern politicians etc. ?
This place is not representative of how there is very great support across the business and politicians of the north. not remotely represetative.
From the looks of it, the vast majority in their 20s/30s. The wrong message took hold, that the old die from it, when it should have been that all except those under ten will suffer from it.
Do you normally get oldies out sunbathing? The impression you'll get from these photos is that it's only the young, because these are the activities the young typically get up to.
Oldies go to the park usually to have a walk and that's mostly what they're showing, not sunbathing (makes for a more sensationalist headline, though). It fits the figures we saw that the UK had vastly more people going to the park than France, for example.
Walking in the park is allowed though, sunbathing is not.
So basically stopping then? What an utterly ridiculous 'rule'. The nation was already Vitamin D deficient.
There's a difference between stopping, and throwing down a towel and taking your top off!
Yes there is, and after we disagreed yesterday, please don't think I'm picking a fight - it wasn't you that made these rules.
However, in my opinion, being allowed a brisk trot, and not being allowed to stop and display your fleshy limbs to the sun, is a ludicrous distinction. For people who don't have an outside space, it's important to get some outdoor time, and some sun. The only material aim here seems to be to prevent an element of enjoyment from creeping in.
The issue is time
London parks gets very overcrowded if people are allowed to sunbathe. You’re only meant to be put for a brief period.
From the looks of it, the vast majority in their 20s/30s. The wrong message took hold, that the old die from it, when it should have been that all except those under ten will suffer from it.
Not necessarily. 20-30 year old cramming into pubs might indicate that. People sitting in parks on their own or in family groups is more people interpreting the guidance in their own way and concluding they are following the spirit, if not the letter, of the Govt advice. They’re not doing it in expectation of getting it and being fine.
The instruction was to stay at home. This is why guidance is not enough, there needs to be something clearer.
I thought it was clear. You can go out for excercise including going for a walk or walking a dog. Once a day, up to an hour. Sun bathing is not excercise or going for walk.
There is absolutely no rule saying that exercise can only be once a day or only for an hour. None whatever.
Still morons going out unless absolutely necessary, nobody needs to exercise for 2 hours. Time to start issuing cattle prods to police and telling them to give these selfish twunts a good charge.
HS2 Northern Ltd has just been registered at Companies House.
Will deliver HS2 Phase 2 and NPR.
HS2 is a fascinating issue in terms of the cross section of opinions you get. On PB, you have Manchester Kurt aggressively supporting it because he thinks it will be good for the North, because too much is spent on London, and Alastair Meeks opposing it, presumably for the same reason, because he feels it's London subsidising the inbred yokels of the provinces. On the other side, you have Northerners vigorously opposed to it, because they think it's being done purely to increase London's talent pool at the expense of the provinces, and Londoners, who support it for the same reason. It's like a strange matrix or flow chart.
and what is the position away from this forum, from the northern business community, the northern politicians etc. ?
This place is not representative of how there is very great support across the business and politicians of the north. not remotely represetative.
I will bow to your greater knowledge of the business community in the North, but I know that plenty of MP's from the North are very opposed (and no doubt some are very pro).
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
Worth looking at a 100 year chart of the Dow Jones index - see link below.
Whilst (of course!) the overall trend is very strongly upwards it's worth noting not just the bear markets but more importantly just how long you have had to wait to just get your money back in cash (ie not even real) terms if you invest at the wrong time, ie
eg Invest in 1929 - wait till late 1950s - ie 30 years - to get back to same level
Invest in mid 1960s - wait till early 1990s - again almost 30 years - to get back to same level
The above excludes dividends but US dividend yields are very low.
OK, the above are the worst two examples and what's the chance of investing at the very peak? But even so there are many examples where you make no cash gain at all over say 10 years.
Christ, must admit I hadn't realised the DJIA fell steadily for 20-30 years once. That's nuts. How did people make money during that period? This was a time of defined benefit pensions, how did that work when the second half of their career returns were negative?
Bonds. Interest rates haven't always been sub 1%.
That was a time period where "investing in the stock market" was seen as the height of irresponsible behaviour and the notion that the market always rises in the end was not the orthodoxy.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
I agree the billionaires are behaving poorly. Why should the millionaires be the ones to atone for the billionaires’ misdeeds?
From the looks of it, the vast majority in their 20s/30s. The wrong message took hold, that the old die from it, when it should have been that all except those under ten will suffer from it.
Time they tazered these clowns
The police were chasing a whole 2 people from a the green patch in a local square. Given that the literal 2 people were at least 50 yards apart....
The trouble is if you ignore the two the number rises exponentially.
Yes, I know. Like what you did there. But they must have been very bored if that is the level of custom they are getting in breaking things up.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
I agree the billionaires are behaving poorly. Why should the millionaires be the ones to atone for the billionaires’ misdeeds?
I'm not following your point. Who are the millionaires and billionaires here?
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
Worth looking at a 100 year chart of the Dow Jones index - see link below.
Whilst (of course!) the overall trend is very strongly upwards it's worth noting not just the bear markets but more importantly just how long you have had to wait to just get your money back in cash (ie not even real) terms if you invest at the wrong time, ie
eg Invest in 1929 - wait till late 1950s - ie 30 years - to get back to same level
Invest in mid 1960s - wait till early 1990s - again almost 30 years - to get back to same level
The above excludes dividends but US dividend yields are very low.
OK, the above are the worst two examples and what's the chance of investing at the very peak? But even so there are many examples where you make no cash gain at all over say 10 years.
Christ, must admit I hadn't realised the DJIA fell steadily for 20-30 years once. That's nuts. How did people make money during that period? This was a time of defined benefit pensions, how did that work when the second half of their career returns were negative?
They didn’t invest in the stock market.
Did bonds give sufficient returns in those decades to finance pension plans? Genuine question.
I’m not expert on financial history, but I’m old enough to remember reading about significant reliance on stock market investment being something of an innovation.
Well I know what I'm going to be trying to read up on tomorrow.
For an excellent contemporary historical view of investing "The Intelligent Investor" by Benjamin Graham is a great read.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
I think Alastair raises a good/difficult question as to whether players should do something that the owners could do themselves. I think we can assume that the FSG aren’t worried about perceptions about LFC and any long term brand damage.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
I agree the billionaires are behaving poorly. Why should the millionaires be the ones to atone for the billionaires’ misdeeds?
I'm not following your point. Who are the millionaires and billionaires here?
Brilliant article. It is time we faced up to these questions.
Agreed. Trouble is that Dr Shipman and similar cases make it even less likely patients will be given sufficient pain relief, never mind voluntary euthenasia. A pain-free death ought to be a human right.
Agree. I think this subject is being discussed in many different countries. I feel strongly that elderly patients with terminal illness should be kept pain free but in many cases allowed to die. The problem always comes back to how can we reliably know that vulnerable elderly are making the choice they want to, and are not being cajoled into death by relatives or doctors. Dr. Shipman was a hopefully never to be repeated case. But there will be more than a few doctors around who care more about their careers, and hence the financial situation of their unit than the patients.
I have encountered problematic attitudes towards patient survival twice (personally). The first occasion I expressed my self with my best sense of humour. The second, I had an interestingly philosophical discussion with the person in question.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
I agree the billionaires are behaving poorly. Why should the millionaires be the ones to atone for the billionaires’ misdeeds?
I'm not following your point. Who are the millionaires and billionaires here?
Millionaires = players Billionaires = owners
The appalling running around at the behest of the unspeakable.
My favourite football moment - when the FA decided that being a wanted war criminal did not breach the "Fit and proper" rule for football club owners...
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
Worth looking at a 100 year chart of the Dow Jones index - see link below.
Whilst (of course!) the overall trend is very strongly upwards it's worth noting not just the bear markets but more importantly just how long you have had to wait to just get your money back in cash (ie not even real) terms if you invest at the wrong time, ie
eg Invest in 1929 - wait till late 1950s - ie 30 years - to get back to same level
Invest in mid 1960s - wait till early 1990s - again almost 30 years - to get back to same level
The above excludes dividends but US dividend yields are very low.
OK, the above are the worst two examples and what's the chance of investing at the very peak? But even so there are many examples where you make no cash gain at all over say 10 years.
Christ, must admit I hadn't realised the DJIA fell steadily for 20-30 years once. That's nuts. How did people make money during that period? This was a time of defined benefit pensions, how did that work when the second half of their career returns were negative?
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
Football clubs making use of government provision could be seen as quite socialist.
I can see the case for wolves and lynx, and beavers are already being re-established, but reintroducing bears seems as plausible as my niece, who when young told her parents that she’d like to adopt a gorilla because “we have a big back garden and it would be no trouble”.
Surely the bears would 'go' in the woods, where, by all accounts they do have toilet facilities.
Woods, like many public lavatory facilities, can be few and far between however.
Especially when the HS2 cheerleaders want to chop so many down.
Can we declare HS2 dead yet?
i doubt it. Big, profitable infrastructure projects funded by borrowing are likely to be more important in an economic crisis, not less - and HS2 is one of the few that’s ready to go.
Well it's certainly big, and infrastructure. And I agree that a lot of it has already started and needs some sort of workable resolution. Personally I think I'd take it as far as Aylesbury and build some sort of new garden commuter town, like Milton Keynes if Milton Keynes wasn't a dystopian ****hole. Admittedly that's not an informed conclusion, just an idea.
I think you’re hard on yourself there. Calling Milton Keynes a ‘dystopian shithole’ sounds like a well-informed conclusion to me.
A hospital has asked people not to come to its accident and emergency department until further notice, saying it is running out of oxygen. Watford General Hospital has declared a critical incident and said any emergency patients should go to other hospitals with A&E units. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-52151694
The oxygen question came up last week. (Demand levels are unprecedented, and some hospitals have had to replumb systems to accommodate.) Matt Hancock said it ought to be no problem, but I guess demand rose faster than expected.
Hancock on the ball as ever , bit like their supposedly ever increasing testing. All just bollox as they promise more and more but reality is just not there. Good talk but crap reality.
Oxygen supply will be limited by the capacity of the ambient vaporisers to vaporise the liquid oxygen, not by the capability of BOC et al to deliver liquid oxygen to the hospital.
To increase capacity they need more hardware.
I was talking in general, they talk well but perform absolute crap.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
The Iranian figures are a hoot..... There must be two old boys in a shed... "Hashem mate....what did you put down yesterday?" "163 my old mucker Ayab..." "OK...lets give it 139 today...seems about right Hashem..."
And meanwhile in the real Iranian world there are bargain black bin bags handed out and skips everywhere for people to dispose of their relatives.....
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
Furlough, sweet chariot, coming for to give me a loan....
The Iranian figures are a hoot..... There must be two old boys in a shed... "Hashem mate....what did you put down yesterday?" "163 my old mucker Ayab..." "OK...lets give it 139 today...seems about right Hashem..."
And meanwhile in the real Iranian world there are bargain black bin bags handed out and skips everywhere for people to dispose of their relatives.....
Is there any reliable data, at all, for the situation in Iran?
The Iranian figures are a hoot..... There must be two old boys in a shed... "Hashem mate....what did you put down yesterday?" "163 my old mucker Ayab..." "OK...lets give it 139 today...seems about right Hashem..."
And meanwhile in the real Iranian world there are bargain black bin bags handed out and skips everywhere for people to dispose of their relatives.....
Is there any reliable data, at all, for the situation in Iran?
No...CNN occasionally shows another aerial photograph of Tehran with another huge burial mound that is added to the many others...
It must be absolute carnage on a scale that makes New York seem like Wyoming....
When do we think foreign holidays will be possible? We have two booked - May 30th and Jul 17th
Well, I think we can safely say the first ain’t happening.
I think nine chances in ten the second won’t be either given the travel industry will still be in chaos. However, it may depend on where you’re going and how you’re getting there.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
No because they are not like every other business, that's the whole point. They pretend to be something more and that's the whole brand. Let's see how this plays out to see who has called it correctly.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
No because they are not like every other business, that's the whole point. They pretend to be something more and that's the whole brand. Let's see how this plays out to see who has called it correctly.
You haven’t answered the question the employees wages are guaranteed so what’s so appalling unless you believe they should not take tax payers money.
When do we think foreign holidays will be possible? We have two booked - May 30th and Jul 17th
We've got train tickets to london end of april. What we were going for is cancelled. And if no pubs etc open probs no point. Might be interesting sightseeing without crowds but might not be allowed.
When do we think foreign holidays will be possible? We have two booked - May 30th and Jul 17th
For the first time since 2016 I carefully planned all my travel for the year in anticipation of retiring. You’d think the boy would learn.
I hadn't been abroad (bar a last minute weekend away) in over a year. Had a trip to Rome for the final 6N game, Portugal in late March, then the Italian lakes in mid April all planned and payed for...
When do we think foreign holidays will be possible? We have two booked - May 30th and Jul 17th
Hmmm.....I would say doubtful sadly......
I was supposed to be in Italy today.....I'd treated myself to a really nice car too.... Oh well.....instead I've cooked a lentil curry at home..we are rapidly running out of supplies and didn't have milk this morning...the supermarket just seems a bridge too far...
We've got an internal UK trip organised for May. It's with the horse down to the beach, we can pay a week before now but need to arrange transport for the horse; and the riding centre/cattery are probably closed too. It'll be a bit shit if all the restaurants are closed too. Most likely delayed tbh.
Today’s main event has been the frankly epic amount of weeding I’ve done. I trust no one with a badge is going to complain that I have enjoyed my time outdoors too much.
Lying down in parks. I noticed yesterday the gate to our local park has a new sign limiting our freedom to sell sex in the park. Or possibly to buy sex; I forget which. I imagine this is a side effect of killjoy Boris closing massage parlours.
Sex al fresco sounds like a marvellous way to get your daily exercise. If it is with a member of your household and well away from prying eyes it complies with all the rules. And indeed with the guidance.
Though in a Lake District summer you’d have to be so wrapped up to stay warm and alive that unbuttoning all the layers would probably provide quite enough exercise for the day.
The Austin Powers solution:
Local slapper is plying her trade in the park. Officer approaches.
‘What are the two of you doing?’
‘Taking our daily exercise officer.’
‘I don’t think this is covered by regulations sir.’
‘Boris said we could cycle. I’m just having my ride on the village bike.’
Today’s main event has been the frankly epic amount of weeding I’ve done. I trust no one with a badge is going to complain that I have enjoyed my time outdoors too much.
Lying down in parks. I noticed yesterday the gate to our local park has a new sign limiting our freedom to sell sex in the park. Or possibly to buy sex; I forget which. I imagine this is a side effect of killjoy Boris closing massage parlours.
Sex al fresco sounds like a marvellous way to get your daily exercise. If it is with a member of your household and well away from prying eyes it complies with all the rules. And indeed with the guidance.
Though in a Lake District summer you’d have to be so wrapped up to stay warm and alive that unbuttoning all the layers would probably provide quite enough exercise for the day.
The Austin Powers solution:
Local slapper is plying her trade in the park. Officer approaches.
‘What are the two of you doing?’
‘Taking our daily exercise officer.’
‘I don’t think this is covered by regulations sir.’
‘Boris said we could cycle. I’m just having my ride on the village bike.’
From the looks of it, the vast majority in their 20s/30s. The wrong message took hold, that the old die from it, when it should have been that all except those under ten will suffer from it.
Well there were a few PB posters who were saying similar things about a month ago, such as the under 40s should carry on as normal to keep the economy going.
Plenty Tories on here only interested in their own pockets, some will be socialists soon when they are on their uppers and realise they have joined the poor etc that they used to decry as spongers
Except of course, that the top story on the Times today is one of the government's top scientific bods saying precisely that.
"A prolonged lockdown risks causing more suffering than the virus itself, Graham Medley, the government’s chief pandemic modeller, has warned. He said that the country needed to face the trade-off between harming the young versus the old."
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
No because they are not like every other business, that's the whole point. They pretend to be something more and that's the whole brand. Let's see how this plays out to see who has called it correctly.
You haven’t answered the question the employees wages are guaranteed so what’s so appalling unless you believe they should not take tax payers money.
Why are you struggling to understand the simple point that LFC pretends to be a community or an extended family and yet does not dip into its own hefty pockets in order to look after its own staff during a storm? It's very simple.
Whether you are personally neutral between the government paying those salaries or LFC paying them doesn't matter, it will matter to many LFC fans. Moreover it will be a stick that will be used to demean and to humiliate those same LFC fans and any hard-fought achievement, that is undeniable. So it is a mistake on multiple levels. A very cheap but very expensive mistake.
"The Dinou case raises serious questions about the rule of law during a pandemic. Dinou was arrested, charged and then prosecuted in a court of law for an offence that does not exist. The case was heard in court by a district judge rather than a bench of magistrates. It was reported that the judge convicted Dinou in a single hearing, even though she reportedly refused to leave her cell throughout the proceedings."
I can see the case for wolves and lynx, and beavers are already being re-established, but reintroducing bears seems as plausible as my niece, who when young told her parents that she’d like to adopt a gorilla because “we have a big back garden and it would be no trouble”.
Surely the bears would 'go' in the woods, where, by all accounts they do have toilet facilities.
Woods, like many public lavatory facilities, can be few and far between however.
Especially when the HS2 cheerleaders want to chop so many down.
Can we declare HS2 dead yet?
i doubt it. Big, profitable infrastructure projects funded by borrowing are likely to be more important in an economic crisis, not less - and HS2 is one of the few that’s ready to go.
Well it's certainly big, and infrastructure. And I agree that a lot of it has already started and needs some sort of workable resolution. Personally I think I'd take it as far as Aylesbury and build some sort of new garden commuter town, like Milton Keynes if Milton Keynes wasn't a dystopian ****hole. Admittedly that's not an informed conclusion, just an idea.
What good is linking Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham, Liverpool, Glasgow... to Aylesbury and not continue to London?
Oh, you meant only building the southern section and f* off the north as is the usual approach no doubt
Yes I did, but only because as I understand it that's the bit that's already been built. If the whole thing had been started in the North, I'd have a lot more faith in it being a genuine boost for that area.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
No because they are not like every other business, that's the whole point. They pretend to be something more and that's the whole brand. Let's see how this plays out to see who has called it correctly.
You haven’t answered the question the employees wages are guaranteed so what’s so appalling unless you believe they should not take tax payers money.
By the way, Starmer should be known as KStarmer - please note the lack of spacing or punctuation between first initial and surname. It is time-honoured PB tradition.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
No because they are not like every other business, that's the whole point. They pretend to be something more and that's the whole brand. Let's see how this plays out to see who has called it correctly.
I don't have a clue what you're banging on about. The staff are being paid 100% of their wages not 80% as most other businesses are doing. Seems to me they are treating their staff better than almost any other business under the circumstances. What's the big deal?
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
No because they are not like every other business, that's the whole point. They pretend to be something more and that's the whole brand. Let's see how this plays out to see who has called it correctly.
You haven’t answered the question the employees wages are guaranteed so what’s so appalling unless you believe they should not take tax payers money.
Why are you struggling to understand the simple point that LFC pretends to be a community or an extended family and yet does not dip into its own hefty pockets in order to look after its own staff during a storm? It's very simple.
Whether you are personally neutral between the government paying those salaries or LFC paying them doesn't matter, it will matter to many LFC fans. Moreover it will be a stick that will be used to demean and to humiliate those same LFC fans and any hard-fought achievement, that is undeniable. So it is a mistake on multiple levels. A very cheap but very expensive mistake.
Let's see how it plays out like I said.
I doubt this will bother too many fans, though your points about Liverpool proclaiming to be a special club is a fair one.
I think in the long term, Liverpool are in a better position than most given that the players have more than just money to lose. They are the best team in the league and the players won’t want to risk crippling the club by playing hardball over wages.
Other clubs, such as Arsenal, are in a worse position in my opinion.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
No because they are not like every other business, that's the whole point. They pretend to be something more and that's the whole brand. Let's see how this plays out to see who has called it correctly.
I don't have a clue what you're banging on about. The staff are being paid 100% of their wages not 80% as most other businesses are doing. Seems to me they are treating their staff better than almost any other business under the circumstances. What's the big deal?
I've explained my point as much as I possibly can. You don't agree, fair enough.
Disgraceful of LFC to furlough its non-playing staff. That's me done with that football club.
Football clubs and the players pay a lot of tax, but it is poor that they aren’t covering staff pay themselves.
The players could donate the necessary money by taking a pay cut.
How many do you will think will offer ?
Is there any reason why millionaires should subsidise billionaires? And is there any reason why footballers should be singled out ahead of bankers, actors, lawyers and pop stars?
Because football clubs pretend to be something more than mere businesses. LFC certainly has.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
The staff are fine they get 100% and don’t lose out the debate should be about wether it is right for a business, however profitable, to take advantage of the scheme. Apart from the overall tax payer who are LFC treating badly? Not the staff so the contempt is misguided, they have not sold the staff down the river unless I’m missing something?
I think you don't really understand the point about LFC. It has just lost its soul.
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
I understand it completely, was born and brought up a red, what are you upset about? if it’s because they are taking government money then I assume you feel the same about every other business owner who could afford to pay but has gone down the furlough, there are plenty of examples.
No because they are not like every other business, that's the whole point. They pretend to be something more and that's the whole brand. Let's see how this plays out to see who has called it correctly.
You haven’t answered the question the employees wages are guaranteed so what’s so appalling unless you believe they should not take tax payers money.
Why are you struggling to understand the simple point that LFC pretends to be a community or an extended family and yet does not dip into its own hefty pockets in order to look after its own staff during a storm? It's very simple.
Whether you are personally neutral between the government paying those salaries or LFC paying them doesn't matter, it will matter to many LFC fans. Moreover it will be a stick that will be used to demean and to humiliate those same LFC fans and any hard-fought achievement, that is undeniable. So it is a mistake on multiple levels. A very cheap but very expensive mistake.
Let's see how it plays out like I said.
The club is dipping into its own pockets. That's why the staff are getting 100% not 80% because the club is dipping into its own pockets and paying the difference. Unlike other clubs and businesses.
Comments
Oh, you meant only building the southern section and f* off the north as is the usual approach no doubt
To increase capacity they need more hardware.
How many do you will think will offer ?
The police were chasing a whole 2 people from a the green patch in a local square. Given that the literal 2 people were at least 50 yards apart....
This place is not representative of how there is very great support across the business and politicians of the north. not remotely represetative.
The bigger battle is going to be between the clubs and the players when the TV money and gate receipts stop.
https://www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/hs2-northern-leaders-call-next-16464638
I'm astonished.
London parks gets very overcrowded if people are allowed to sunbathe. You’re only meant to be put for a brief period.
It will be laughed out of town now every time it tries to sing its anthem.
That was a time period where "investing in the stock market" was seen as the height of irresponsible behaviour and the notion that the market always rises in the end was not the orthodoxy.
Would humming Ode To Joy twice while washing your hands meet the mark?
The man from whom Buffet learnt everything.
Billionaires = owners
My favourite football moment - when the FA decided that being a wanted war criminal did not breach the "Fit and proper" rule for football club owners...
Liverpool CEO Peter Moore Oct '19: "We had this historical figure, Bill Shankly, a Scottish socialist. Today when we speak about business questions, we ask ourselves: 'what would Shankly do?'
Football is about rivalry. LFC fans will be ashamed of this, they will be mocked merclessly. Their achievements traduced.
The Iranian figures are a hoot.....
There must be two old boys in a shed... "Hashem mate....what did you put down yesterday?"
"163 my old mucker Ayab..."
"OK...lets give it 139 today...seems about right Hashem..."
And meanwhile in the real Iranian world there are bargain black bin bags handed out and skips everywhere for people to dispose of their relatives.....
K - E - I - R
Apart from anything else, it’s much easier to pun on ‘Starmer’ than on ‘Keir.’
It must be absolute carnage on a scale that makes New York seem like Wyoming....
I think nine chances in ten the second won’t be either given the travel industry will still be in chaos. However, it may depend on where you’re going and how you’re getting there.
He’d like to come and meet us...”
There is a science to it....those named by their surname (Cameron being the exception) are defined to failure....
Meanwhile, Miliband was always Ed Miliband, admittedly mostly because of his brother.
Driving the bus into the brick-wall isn't actually likely now.
The second best thing about Starmer is that he's worth listening to.
Let's see how he gets on.
Hmmm.....I would say doubtful sadly......
I was supposed to be in Italy today.....I'd treated myself to a really nice car too....
Oh well.....instead I've cooked a lentil curry at home..we are rapidly running out of supplies and didn't have milk this morning...the supermarket just seems a bridge too far...
Most likely delayed tbh.
That's horrendous if true.
"A prolonged lockdown risks causing more suffering than the virus itself, Graham Medley, the government’s chief pandemic modeller, has warned. He said that the country needed to face the trade-off between harming the young versus the old."
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/boris-johnsons-coronavirus-adviser-calls-for-a-way-out-of-lockdown-rd58g6tc9
Whether you are personally neutral between the government paying those salaries or LFC paying them doesn't matter, it will matter to many LFC fans. Moreover it will be a stick that will be used to demean and to humiliate those same LFC fans and any hard-fought achievement, that is undeniable. So it is a mistake on multiple levels. A very cheap but very expensive mistake.
Let's see how it plays out like I said.
https://twitter.com/saletan/status/1246476753792643074
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Dullea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Gilchrist
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/04/03/the-dangerous-breakdown-of-the-rule-of-law/
I think in the long term, Liverpool are in a better position than most given that the players have more than just money to lose. They are the best team in the league and the players won’t want to risk crippling the club by playing hardball over wages.
Other clubs, such as Arsenal, are in a worse position in my opinion.
Let's see how it plays out.