Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Then you've never met Sonia Khan, she wouldn't wish this on anyone.
You show your own debased and depraved mind at work.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Ah yes, the "I don't think this, but many people do" cop out - either man up and and have the view or don't repeat it.
No - but I can certainly empathise. Were I in that lady's position, it would certainly be how I would feel.
The government needs an exit strategy to the lockdown.
They should be pulling out all the stops to find an effective treatment, setting up trials for as many drugs as possible.
They should be getting a steady stream of masks to everyone and announce that they need to be worn outside the house for the foreseeable future. This would allow the lockdown to finish earlier and for it to be longer before another one is potentially needed in future.
Currently they just seem to be waiting around to see what turns up.
I guess they are relying on the evidence and making decision on that basis
What makes you think that they are not doing trials for drugs? Why should we be sending our limited supplies of masks to you vs doctors and nurses?
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
What? You really are beyond the pale. Absolutely disgraceful.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Ah yes, the "I don't think this, but many people do" cop out - either man up and and have the view or don't repeat it.
No - but I can certainly empathise. Were I in that lady's position, it would certainly be how I would feel.
An embittered leftie but with smaller front parts ?
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Ah yes, the "I don't think this, but many people do" cop out - either man up and and have the view or don't repeat it.
No - but I can certainly empathise. Were I in that lady's position, it would certainly be how I would feel.
A while back, some people in an office where I worked got so sick of the coffee room rants of a regressive about all the people he wished ill to, that they started announcing they wanted various "progressive" figures to suffer harm.
Said regressive was appalled... apparently it was evil to wish harm on other people.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
On reported deaths, signs of a slowing of rate of growth in Italy, Spain and France, but not yet in UK, US and Germany. On reported cases, slight sign of slowing of rate of growth in most countries.
I'd like to point out that the slowing you mention is when using a log scale.
Italy, Spain and France are looking linear (i.e. constant growth) for cases and deaths, which of course is much better than it was last week.
There does seem to be some confusion around the rules of what can and can't be sold. The local clothes shops and off licences are closed, but Tesco can sell clothes and booze no problem.
Shops that are allowed to be open are allowed to be open. There are no restrictions on what they can sell. Shops that are not allowed to be open are not allowed to be open.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Then you've never met Sonia Khan, she wouldn't wish this on anyone.
You show your own debased and depraved mind at work.
It reminds me of an event from circa 1970. A widely disliked and sadistic Grammar School Headmaster suddenly dropped dead following a coronary. There were wide smiles everywhere!
BMI over 30 looks bad, as does age. Figures in third column are other viral pneumonia for comparison.
Until I contracted severe pneumonia a couple of years ago, I rather naively thought that only oldies died of it. I didn't know there was a somewhat significant death rate for even under 50s (obviously column 3 is showing those that needed critical care, but still).
ARDS is a particularly nasty pneumonia.
Isn’t pneumonia just a symptom of ARDS?
Isn't it rather a grab bag which describes respiratory failures from various causes (pneumonia included) which share common symptoms ?
Hence 'syndrome', which is a useful label medics attach to a general something they can't precisely explain.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It has been suggested that it was Cummings idea to try the mathematically inappropriate idea of creating 'herd immunity' by letting people get Covid-19. Even though that was abandoned when someone worked out what that would mean, it is generous of Dom and Boris to volunteer to help in a small way to increase Britain's herd immunity.
The suggestion is rubbish. Everything after that in your posting is meaningless.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
What? You really are beyond the pale. Absolutely disgraceful.
Just had a look for how to volunteer to be part of a vaccine trial, but the only one I could find in the UK, was only looking for people living in or near Oxford.
The government needs an exit strategy to the lockdown.
They should be pulling out all the stops to find an effective treatment, setting up trials for as many drugs as possible.
They should be getting a steady stream of masks to everyone and announce that they need to be worn outside the house for the foreseeable future. This would allow the lockdown to finish earlier and for it to be longer before another one is potentially needed in future.
Currently they just seem to be waiting around to see what turns up.
I guess they are relying on the evidence and making decision on that basis
What makes you think that they are not doing trials for drugs? Why should we be sending our limited supplies of masks to you vs doctors and nurses?
We have lockdown of the population here, but are still allowing flights from Italy and Spain at the moment, with people allowed to just wander straight off the planes.
The problem is that there is a limited supply of masks, not where they are being supplied. Of course NHS staff should get them as a priority.
If they are making efforts to ramp up production here then fair enough, I'd be interested in seeing how they are doing this.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
Then they are immoral. Losing a job is a small thing against a human life.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
No, I think most normal people wouldn't wish such people to die.
Its amazing Hope not Hate have commissioned a poll.....and apparently their results think the government is shit, didn't act fast enough and the PM can't be trusted.
I presumed they only polled Corbyn household.
The clue in the sort of people they spoke to is that 66% said they thought it was important not to trust the mainstream media and get a second opinion from "alternative media" and that 20% think it is all overblown nonsense.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Then you've never met Sonia Khan, she wouldn't wish this on anyone.
You show your own debased and depraved mind at work.
It reminds me of an event from circa 1970. A widely disliked and sadistic Grammar School Headmaster suddenly dropped dead following a coronary. There were wide smiles everywhere!
So you've never met Sonia Khan, so stop making rubbish stuff up about what she thinks.
I mean you wouldn't like if people did that about you.
Coronavirus: pathogen could have been spreading in humans for years, study says Virus may have jumped from animal to humans long before the first detection in Wuhan, according to research by an international team of scientists Findings significantly reduce the possibility of the virus having a laboratory origin, director of the US National Institute of Health says https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3077442/coronavirus-pathogen-could-have-been-spreading-humans-decades
I wouldn't be tempted to over-interpret it, but it does demonstrate the considerable amount of uncertainty which surrounds everything about this virus.
It's fascinating how many 'interesting' stories the South China Morning Post manages to find which propose alternative theories about the origins of the virus, and you seem to be remarkably credulous about them...
Hardly - hence my suggestion that it not be over-interpreted. Are you saying the US NIH director didn't say that the findings reduce the possibility of the virus having a laboratory origin ?
The SCMP article fundamentally misrepresents the findings. In fact the paper referred to states: "Estimates of the timing of the most recent common ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 made with current sequence data point to emergence of the virus in late November 2019 to early December 2019, compatible with the earliest retrospectively confirmed cases."
But what about this quote - is it fabricated ? Dr Francis Collins, director of the US National Institute of Health, who was not involved in the research, said the study suggested a possible scenario in which the coronavirus crossed from animals into humans before it became capable of causing disease in people. “Then, as a result of gradual evolutionary changes over years or perhaps decades, the virus eventually gained the ability to spread from human to human and cause serious, often life-threatening disease,” he said in an article published on the institute’s website on Thursday....
Here's another quote from the same Dr Francis Collins:
"If you look at the current coronavirus and say, what is it closest to in terms of its instruction book, its RNA sequence? Its 96% the same as a coronavirus isolated from a bat in a cave in China several years ago. Now, did it come directly from a bat to a human? Did it travel through some other host along the way? We don't know the answer to that. But as humans are more and more populous and more and more interacting with animals in the wild, and of course, in China, there are markets where that happens a lot, we are going to keep seeing this happen."
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
Then they are immoral. Losing a job is a small thing against a human life.
I am not suggesting they would take action to bring it about, but would not be unhappy to hear the news.
I guess you’d be happy with just over 50% on a test then...
If the test were marked as a zero-sum game in which you were competing against all the other examinees for the same finite pool of marks, then it would be a fantastic outcome...
Coronavirus: pathogen could have been spreading in humans for years, study says Virus may have jumped from animal to humans long before the first detection in Wuhan, according to research by an international team of scientists Findings significantly reduce the possibility of the virus having a laboratory origin, director of the US National Institute of Health says https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3077442/coronavirus-pathogen-could-have-been-spreading-humans-decades
I wouldn't be tempted to over-interpret it, but it does demonstrate the considerable amount of uncertainty which surrounds everything about this virus.
It's fascinating how many 'interesting' stories the South China Morning Post manages to find which propose alternative theories about the origins of the virus, and you seem to be remarkably credulous about them...
Hardly - hence my suggestion that it not be over-interpreted. Are you saying the US NIH director didn't say that the findings reduce the possibility of the virus having a laboratory origin ?
The SCMP article fundamentally misrepresents the findings. In fact the paper referred to states: "Estimates of the timing of the most recent common ancestor of SARS-CoV-2 made with current sequence data point to emergence of the virus in late November 2019 to early December 2019, compatible with the earliest retrospectively confirmed cases."
But what about this quote - is it fabricated ? Dr Francis Collins, director of the US National Institute of Health, who was not involved in the research, said the study suggested a possible scenario in which the coronavirus crossed from animals into humans before it became capable of causing disease in people. “Then, as a result of gradual evolutionary changes over years or perhaps decades, the virus eventually gained the ability to spread from human to human and cause serious, often life-threatening disease,” he said in an article published on the institute’s website on Thursday....
Here's another quote from the same Dr Francis Collins:
"If you look at the current coronavirus and say, what is it closest to in terms of its instruction book, its RNA sequence? Its 96% the same as a coronavirus isolated from a bat in a cave in China several years ago. Now, did it come directly from a bat to a human? Did it travel through some other host along the way? We don't know the answer to that. But as humans are more and more populous and more and more interacting with animals in the wild, and of course, in China, there are markets where that happens a lot, we are going to keep seeing this happen."
None of which contradicts what I posted. I know you have a bee in your bonnet about this, and it is of course true that any news issuing from China need to be taken with a very large pinch of salt, but I'm not going to discuss it further, as we're going round in circles.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Then you've never met Sonia Khan, she wouldn't wish this on anyone.
You show your own debased and depraved mind at work.
It reminds me of an event from circa 1970. A widely disliked and sadistic Grammar School Headmaster suddenly dropped dead following a coronary. There were wide smiles everywhere!
So you've never met Sonia Khan, so stop making rubbish stuff up about what she thinks.
I mean you wouldn't like if people did that about you.
I never claimed to know her thoughts - but could well understand if she did think along such lines.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Then you've never met Sonia Khan, she wouldn't wish this on anyone.
You show your own debased and depraved mind at work.
It reminds me of an event from circa 1970. A widely disliked and sadistic Grammar School Headmaster suddenly dropped dead following a coronary. There were wide smiles everywhere!
So you've never met Sonia Khan, so stop making rubbish stuff up about what she thinks.
I mean you wouldn't like if people did that about you.
I never claimed to know her thoughts - but could well understand if she did think along such lines.
And can you now well understand that you're likely entirely wrong ?
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
Then they are immoral. Losing a job is a small thing against a human life.
I am not suggesting they would take action to bring it about, but would not be unhappy to hear the news.
Not being unhappy is far from welcoming the news. Normal people wouldn't feel glee if someone who had cost them their jobs had died.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Then you've never met Sonia Khan, she wouldn't wish this on anyone.
You show your own debased and depraved mind at work.
It reminds me of an event from circa 1970. A widely disliked and sadistic Grammar School Headmaster suddenly dropped dead following a coronary. There were wide smiles everywhere!
So you've never met Sonia Khan, so stop making rubbish stuff up about what she thinks.
I mean you wouldn't like if people did that about you.
I never claimed to know her thoughts - but could well understand if she did think along such lines.
Well she'd be quite offended by your comments, so shut up before you get Mike into trouble.
The government needs an exit strategy to the lockdown.
They should be pulling out all the stops to find an effective treatment, setting up trials for as many drugs as possible.
They should be getting a steady stream of masks to everyone and announce that they need to be worn outside the house for the foreseeable future. This would allow the lockdown to finish earlier and for it to be longer before another one is potentially needed in future.
Currently they just seem to be waiting around to see what turns up.
I guess they are relying on the evidence and making decision on that basis
What makes you think that they are not doing trials for drugs? Why should we be sending our limited supplies of masks to you vs doctors and nurses?
We have lockdown of the population here, but are still allowing flights from Italy and Spain at the moment, with people allowed to just wander straight off the planes.
The problem is that there is a limited supply of masks, not where they are being supplied. Of course NHS staff should get them as a priority.
If they are making efforts to ramp up production here then fair enough, I'd be interested in seeing how they are doing this.
The supply of PPE has been explicitly talked about in the daily briefings.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It has been suggested that it was Cummings idea to try the mathematically inappropriate idea of creating 'herd immunity' by letting people get Covid-19. Even though that was abandoned when someone worked out what that would mean, it is generous of Dom and Boris to volunteer to help in a small way to increase Britain's herd immunity.
The suggestion is rubbish. Everything after that in your posting is meaningless.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Then you've never met Sonia Khan, she wouldn't wish this on anyone.
You show your own debased and depraved mind at work.
It reminds me of an event from circa 1970. A widely disliked and sadistic Grammar School Headmaster suddenly dropped dead following a coronary. There were wide smiles everywhere!
So you've never met Sonia Khan, so stop making rubbish stuff up about what she thinks.
I mean you wouldn't like if people did that about you.
I never claimed to know her thoughts - but could well understand if she did think along such lines.
And can you now well understand that you're likely entirely wrong ?
I was always open to that possibility. There is no way I can know the thoughts of someone else. Nobody can claim to be certain as to how that lady might think or feel.
The government needs an exit strategy to the lockdown.
They should be pulling out all the stops to find an effective treatment, setting up trials for as many drugs as possible.
They should be getting a steady stream of masks to everyone and announce that they need to be worn outside the house for the foreseeable future. This would allow the lockdown to finish earlier and for it to be longer before another one is potentially needed in future.
Currently they just seem to be waiting around to see what turns up.
I guess they are relying on the evidence and making decision on that basis
What makes you think that they are not doing trials for drugs? Why should we be sending our limited supplies of masks to you vs doctors and nurses?
We have lockdown of the population here, but are still allowing flights from Italy and Spain at the moment, with people allowed to just wander straight off the planes.
The problem is that there is a limited supply of masks, not where they are being supplied. Of course NHS staff should get them as a priority.
If they are making efforts to ramp up production here then fair enough, I'd be interested in seeing how they are doing this.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
No, I think most normal people wouldn't wish such people to die.
To wish him genuine ill would be descending to his repulsive level, though as I said on the last thread, it would be deserving of his "so be-it" comment relating to the death of the elderly if he experiences some sever symptoms so he can reflect on his revolting disregard of others. I hope he then has a full recovery and damascene conversion to being a half decent non-psychopathic human being. If he suffers badly along the way, then, as he would say, so be it; it is difficult to have sympathy for one that has none for others.
Could spark a rush for people to get the disease all at once.
It was said in German media a couple of days ago an accurate antibody test might be 2-3 months away, so it might be a while.
Meanwhile my wife's hospital is looking into how to disinfect facemasks to make them reusable - which is worrying. A guy came in the other day with lower belly pain and no Covid-19 symptoms at all. In the CT scan thay noticed the lungs had signs of Covid-19 so they tested him and it came back positive. Not sure if the belly pain is related to Covid-19, but I guess they are starting to get people coming in for unrelated things who are also infected, and asymptomatic.
It would be nice to be able to do a CT scan on admission, especially as they have to wait for test results, and there are a lot of false negatives - eg one patient with severe symptoms only tested positive on the third test. Unfortunately they only have 1 CT scanner and it's needed for other things.
At least test results come back the same day, or the next day. They don't have a lab at the hospital, they have to be sent elsewhere.
My sister is a doctor in a North London hospital and has caught the virus. Nothing too severe so far fingers crossed. She was complaining last week about a lack of masks, she wasn't dealing directly with Covid-19 patients. She was quite angry about the lack of PPE.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
No, I think most normal people wouldn't wish such people to die.
To wish him genuine ill would be descending to his repulsive level, though as I said on the last thread, it would be deserving of his "so be-it" comment relating to the death of the elderly if he experiences some sever symptoms so he can reflect on his revolting disregard of others. I hope he then has a full recovery and damascene conversion to being a half decent non-psychopathic human being. If he suffers badly along the way, then, as he would say, so be it; it is difficult to have sympathy for one that has none for others.
Fair enough to have no sympathy, but to derive joy from it? Sick.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
No, I think most normal people wouldn't wish such people to die.
To wish him genuine ill would be descending to his repulsive level, though as I said on the last thread, it would be deserving of his "so be-it" comment relating to the death of the elderly if he experiences some sever symptoms so he can reflect on his revolting disregard of others. I hope he then has a full recovery and damascene conversion to being a half decent non-psychopathic human being. If he suffers badly along the way, then, as he would say, so be it; it is difficult to have sympathy for one that has none for others.
Sorry, the phrase was "to bad". Yea, if Cummings is really very ill, well that is too bad. Don't wish the revolting little shit dead though, otherwise I would be as bad as he is.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
No, I think most normal people wouldn't wish such people to die.
To wish him genuine ill would be descending to his repulsive level, though as I said on the last thread, it would be deserving of his "so be-it" comment relating to the death of the elderly if he experiences some sever symptoms so he can reflect on his revolting disregard of others. I hope he then has a full recovery and damascene conversion to being a half decent non-psychopathic human being. If he suffers badly along the way, then, as he would say, so be it; it is difficult to have sympathy for one that has none for others.
This post reads like it was repeatedly redrafted by two people who wildly disagreed on the central message they wanted to give out, and then released by accident before they could settle on a wording that satisfied both of them.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It would hardly be surprising if the lady frogmarched out of Downing Street by the Police - following orders from Cummings -derived satisfaction from any illfortune he suffered - including his demise were that to come about. I was certainly not the first to compare him with Reinhard Heydrich.
Your last sentence is savagely offensive to people who actually suffered at the hands of Heydrich et al and represents another example of the "literally Hitler" garbage that is infesting political life at the moment.
Whatever! Many view Cummings as little short of pure evil and their response to this news is likely to be 'Serve the bastard right' or 'he got his just desserts'. I have no reason to say that - but quite a few people do!
Pure evil? Get a grip for God's sake.
The savage in me would hope that he would meet some real evil. The civilised human within me thinks that thought un worthy.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
In the world at large, I have little doubt that many people would welcome the demise of those who had cost them their jobs.
No, I think most normal people wouldn't wish such people to die.
To wish him genuine ill would be descending to his repulsive level, though as I said on the last thread, it would be deserving of his "so be-it" comment relating to the death of the elderly if he experiences some sever symptoms so he can reflect on his revolting disregard of others. I hope he then has a full recovery and damascene conversion to being a half decent non-psychopathic human being. If he suffers badly along the way, then, as he would say, so be it; it is difficult to have sympathy for one that has none for others.
You are another one who has lost all sense of reality and decency based on your own personal biases reinforced by rumour and smear from others like you. You have become positively Momentum like in your warped view of the world.
The Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games will run from 23 July to 8 August 2021, the International Olympic Committee has announced.
What if we do not have a vaccine yet and we are in lockdown again at that time?
Postpone it again
They have said they will not postpone it again, so if that happens the Tokyo Olympics will be cancelled
They said they wouldn't postpone it the first time, that doesn't mean they didn't postpone it the first time. The Governor of Tokyo is the Japanese Theresa May, if that helps.
Could spark a rush for people to get the disease all at once.
It was said in German media a couple of days ago an accurate antibody test might be 2-3 months away, so it might be a while.
Meanwhile my wife's hospital is looking into how to disinfect facemasks to make them reusable - which is worrying. A guy came in the other day with lower belly pain and no Covid-19 symptoms at all. In the CT scan thay noticed the lungs had signs of Covid-19 so they tested him and it came back positive. Not sure if the belly pain is related to Covid-19, but I guess they are starting to get people coming in for unrelated things who are also infected, and asymptomatic.
It would be nice to be able to do a CT scan on admission, especially as they have to wait for test results, and there are a lot of false negatives - eg one patient with severe symptoms only tested positive on the third test. Unfortunately they only have 1 CT scanner and it's needed for other things.
At least test results come back the same day, or the next day. They don't have a lab at the hospital, they have to be sent elsewhere.
My sister is a doctor in a North London hospital and has caught the virus. Nothing too severe so far fingers crossed. She was complaining last week about a lack of masks, she wasn't dealing directly with Covid-19 patients. She was quite angry about the lack of PPE.
Best wishes to you and family. I think in NY, they now assume every admitted patient is infected (as they discovered many of those admitted for other emergencies were).
The number of people who have died in Wales after contracting coronavirus is 62, a rise of 14, health officials said.
Dr Giri Shankar, incident director for the Covid-19 outbreak response at Public Health Wales, said: "210 new cases have tested positive for Covid-19 in Wales, bringing the total number of confirmed cases to 1,451, although the true number of cases is likely to be higher.
"14 further deaths have been reported to us of people who had tested positive for coronavirus, taking the number of deaths in Wales to 62.
"We offer our condolences to families and friends affected, and we ask those reporting on the situation to respect patient confidentiality."
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It has been suggested that it was Cummings idea to try the mathematically inappropriate idea of creating 'herd immunity' by letting people get Covid-19. Even though that was abandoned when someone worked out what that would mean, it is generous of Dom and Boris to volunteer to help in a small way to increase Britain's herd immunity.
The suggestion is rubbish. Everything after that in your posting is meaningless.
Long ago shown to be garbage based on the actual minutes of the meetings. So as I say your posting is pointless and wrong.
I didn't realise "private engagements" were minuted Richard? Anyone who has the measure of this revolting individual knows that he most likely would say such a thing. Cameron referred to him as a "career psychopath". People don't get those sort of reputations without good reason. It is a bad thing to wish him dead though. With that I can agree with you. I hope he recovers quickly, but slowly enough to reflect on his comments and does not use resource that might be used on those that are more worthy of compassion.
The Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games will run from 23 July to 8 August 2021, the International Olympic Committee has announced.
What if we do not have a vaccine yet and we are in lockdown again at that time?
Postpone it again
They have said they will not postpone it again, so if that happens the Tokyo Olympics will be cancelled
They said they wouldn't postpone it the first time, that doesn't mean they didn't postpone it the first time. The Governor of Tokyo is the Japanese Theresa May, if that helps.
I seem to recall someone (who doesn't even have the excuse of being Theresa May) recently promising to "die in a ditch" rather than postpone an event for the second time.
I seem to recall that resulting neither in the event happening on schedule, nor anyone dying in a ditch.
Pet peeve, can't these egg-heads learn to use latex.
Does anyone still use LaTeX?
Yes, if you want to get a paper published in many areas of scientific literature. For lots of conferences, the submission process comes with a predefined LaTeX template that you must adhere to.
Although it can be a pain, it is far superior to anything else when it comes to handling detailed equations.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It has been suggested that it was Cummings idea to try the mathematically inappropriate idea of creating 'herd immunity' by letting people get Covid-19. Even though that was abandoned when someone worked out what that would mean, it is generous of Dom and Boris to volunteer to help in a small way to increase Britain's herd immunity.
The suggestion is rubbish. Everything after that in your posting is meaningless.
Long ago shown to be garbage based on the actual minutes of the meetings. So as I say your posting is pointless and wrong.
I didn't realise "private engagements" were minuted Richard? Anyone who has the measure of this revolting individual knows that he most likely would say such a thing. Cameron referred to him as a "career psychopath". People don't get those sort of reputations without good reason. It is a bad thing to wish him dead though. With that I can agree with you. I hope he recovers quickly, but slowly enough to reflect on his comments and does not use resource that might be used on those that are more worthy of compassion.
You do not have his measure, only your own bigotries. Everything else you have posted is supposition and smear.
Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive. But to be a Remainer was very heaven!
Several former Spads will be pleased. Karma again!
Leaving aside for a moment the issue of taking joy at another's misfortune - it happens, it's not pleasant, but it'd take a bigger person than I to admit to never having done so - I'm not quite seeing how someone allegedly being a bit of a shit is subject to karma if they suffer some unrelated medical issue. I guess karma could include any general poor fortune, but to be proportionate and appropriate karma for someone in that situation would be being fired in disgrace, not just having a personal health issue - they might not regard that suffering as a karmic at all, anymore than a horrible dictator getting ill at the end of a thirty year reign of terror would be getting karma.
It has been suggested that it was Cummings idea to try the mathematically inappropriate idea of creating 'herd immunity' by letting people get Covid-19. Even though that was abandoned when someone worked out what that would mean, it is generous of Dom and Boris to volunteer to help in a small way to increase Britain's herd immunity.
The suggestion is rubbish. Everything after that in your posting is meaningless.
Long ago shown to be garbage based on the actual minutes of the meetings. So as I say your posting is pointless and wrong.
I didn't realise "private engagements" were minuted Richard? Anyone who has the measure of this revolting individual knows that he most likely would say such a thing. Cameron referred to him as a "career psychopath". People don't get those sort of reputations without good reason. It is a bad thing to wish him dead though. With that I can agree with you. I hope he recovers quickly, but slowly enough to reflect on his comments and does not use resource that might be used on those that are more worthy of compassion.
The newspaper story was shown to be wrong by the minutes of the government scientific advisory committee - Cummings didn't invent policy, or implement it. So either the minutes - which name specific people saying specific things are wrong, or the anon sources of the newspaper reporter are wrong.
Nice to see Mr Neill trying to maintain some professional standards and some level of individual decency by having a deeper look into matters, reconsidering his views and correcting himself.
Pet peeve, can't these egg-heads learn to use latex.
Does anyone still use LaTeX?
Yes, if you want to get a paper published in many areas of scientific literature. For lots of conferences, the submission process comes with a predefined LaTeX template that you must adhere to.
Although it can be a pain, it is far superior to anything else when it comes to handling detailed equations.
Though exporting it to PDF is a general practise for the web etc.
Pet peeve, can't these egg-heads learn to use latex.
Does anyone still use LaTeX?
Yes, if you want to get a paper published in many areas of scientific literature. For lots of conferences, the submission process comes with a predefined LaTeX template that you must adhere to.
Although it can be a pain, it is far superior to anything else when it comes to handling detailed equations.
Though exporting it to PDF is a general practise for the web etc.
Yes of course, but the underlying report is still created using the LaTex system.
I honestly have no idea how people write papers or journals that contain a large amount of maths without it. All those "equation editors" in the likes of Word are just utter shit. The pineapple pizza / Radiohead at Glastonbury of tools.
Nice to see Mr Neill trying to maintain some professional standards and some level of individual decency by having a deeper look into matters, reconsidering his views and correcting himself.
Nice to see Mr Neill trying to maintain some professional standards and some level of individual decency by having a deeper look into matters, reconsidering his views and correcting himself.
Good for him. Is there still not some uncertainty over the percentage of mild/asymptomatic cases Germany's more widespread testing might have identified, though ?
Nice to see Mr Neill trying to maintain some professional standards and some level of individual decency by having a deeper look into matters, reconsidering his views and correcting himself.
Pet peeve, can't these egg-heads learn to use latex.
Does anyone still use LaTeX?
Yes, if you want to get a paper published in many areas of scientific literature. For lots of conferences, the submission process comes with a predefined LaTeX template that you must adhere to.
Although it can be a pain, it is far superior to anything else when it comes to handling detailed equations.
Isn't symbol rich maths still a pain in the arse to get to display (or print) consistently, though ? (Not a mathematician, just what I've been told.)
Nice to see Mr Neill trying to maintain some professional standards and some level of individual decency by having a deeper look into matters, reconsidering his views and correcting himself.
Good for him. Is there still not some uncertainty over the percentage of mild/asymptomatic cases Germany's more widespread testing might have identified, though ?
The genuine source of the difference would be extremely interesting to know, from a public health policy point of view. I look forward to the result of the inevitable scientific enquiry into this.
One question I have - what tests is Germany using: All the lengthy, lab tests, or are they using the quick tests in combination (see South Korea)?
Pet peeve, can't these egg-heads learn to use latex.
Does anyone still use LaTeX?
Yes, if you want to get a paper published in many areas of scientific literature. For lots of conferences, the submission process comes with a predefined LaTeX template that you must adhere to.
Although it can be a pain, it is far superior to anything else when it comes to handling detailed equations.
Though exporting it to PDF is a general practise for the web etc.
Yes of course, but the underlying report is still created using the LaTex system.
I honestly have no idea how people write papers or journals that contain a large amount of maths without it. All those "equation editors" in the likes of Word are just utter shit. The pineapple pizza / Radiohead at Glastonbury of tools.
I dunno; I have to include equations in reports at work fairly frequently and I've gotten quite good at manipulating the Word editor to do what I want it to.
Having also watched my wife struggle with LaTeX for her PhD I wouldn't want it any different. Seems to be a horrible package.
There are some absurd stories doing the rounds about retail. A Daily Mail "expose" on people up here shopping at The Range and B&M has created a storm on local Facebook groups "Betraying the NHS" etc. Similar madness with the police/councils advising retailers not to sell food - huh?
It should be simple. Stay home if you can. If you have to shop you can only go to retailers allowed to stay open by the government including The Range and your corner shop. Whilst there social distance to stay safe. Second-guessing things will just make it worse - and this is only week 2. Many many more weeks of this to drive people absolutely mad.
Nice to see Mr Neill trying to maintain some professional standards and some level of individual decency by having a deeper look into matters, reconsidering his views and correcting himself.
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You show your own debased and depraved mind at work.
What makes you think that they are not doing trials for drugs? Why should we be sending our limited supplies of masks to you vs doctors and nurses?
Said regressive was appalled... apparently it was evil to wish harm on other people.
Italy, Spain and France are looking linear (i.e. constant growth) for cases and deaths, which of course is much better than it was last week.
Not that difficult really.
Hence 'syndrome', which is a useful label medics attach to a general something they can't precisely explain.
I have met actual evil, though not of the Heydrich level - and he really does not know what he is talking about.
https://covid19vaccinetrial.co.uk/volunteer
Are there any other trials going on?
The problem is that there is a limited supply of masks, not where they are being supplied. Of course NHS staff should get them as a priority.
If they are making efforts to ramp up production here then fair enough, I'd be interested in seeing how they are doing this.
I presumed they only polled Corbyn household.
The clue in the sort of people they spoke to is that 66% said they thought it was important not to trust the mainstream media and get a second opinion from "alternative media" and that 20% think it is all overblown nonsense.
They appear to have polled David Icke followers.
This is an example of a zombie business that might well have failed without this crisis - too pricey for the quality.
I mean you wouldn't like if people did that about you.
Never
"If you look at the current coronavirus and say, what is it closest to in terms of its instruction book, its RNA sequence? Its 96% the same as a coronavirus isolated from a bat in a cave in China several years ago. Now, did it come directly from a bat to a human? Did it travel through some other host along the way? We don't know the answer to that. But as humans are more and more populous and more and more interacting with animals in the wild, and of course, in China, there are markets where that happens a lot, we are going to keep seeing this happen."
I know you have a bee in your bonnet about this, and it is of course true that any news issuing from China need to be taken with a very large pinch of salt, but I'm not going to discuss it further, as we're going round in circles.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8166867/How-large-viral-load-make-coronavirus-infection-worse.html
Clearly Boris is being slower than usual hiding the bodies or something like that according to twitter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3VA9pZ_kY0
http://trains.im/ppm/
TPE @ 100%!
Meanwhile my wife's hospital is looking into how to disinfect facemasks to make them reusable - which is worrying.
A guy came in the other day with lower belly pain and no Covid-19 symptoms at all. In the CT scan thay noticed the lungs had signs of Covid-19 so they tested him and it came back positive. Not sure if the belly pain is related to Covid-19, but I guess they are starting to get people coming in for unrelated things who are also infected, and asymptomatic.
It would be nice to be able to do a CT scan on admission, especially as they have to wait for test results, and there are a lot of false negatives - eg one patient with severe symptoms only tested positive on the third test. Unfortunately they only have 1 CT scanner and it's needed for other things.
At least test results come back the same day, or the next day. They don't have a lab at the hospital, they have to be sent elsewhere.
My sister is a doctor in a North London hospital and has caught the virus. Nothing too severe so far fingers crossed. She was complaining last week about a lack of masks, she wasn't dealing directly with Covid-19 patients. She was quite angry about the lack of PPE.
Even a scarf or tea towel has some efficacy.
Is it OK to wish genuine ill on people, or not?
The Governor of Tokyo is the Japanese Theresa May, if that helps.
I think in NY, they now assume every admitted patient is infected (as they discovered many of those admitted for other emergencies were).
Dr Giri Shankar, incident director for the Covid-19 outbreak response at Public Health Wales, said: "210 new cases have tested positive for Covid-19 in Wales, bringing the total number of confirmed cases to 1,451, although the true number of cases is likely to be higher.
"14 further deaths have been reported to us of people who had tested positive for coronavirus, taking the number of deaths in Wales to 62.
"We offer our condolences to families and friends affected, and we ask those reporting on the situation to respect patient confidentiality."
I seem to recall that resulting neither in the event happening on schedule, nor anyone dying in a ditch.
Although it can be a pain, it is far superior to anything else when it comes to handling detailed equations.
Hope you are doing OK Charles.
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1244235433694973952?s=20
I honestly have no idea how people write papers or journals that contain a large amount of maths without it. All those "equation editors" in the likes of Word are just utter shit. The pineapple pizza / Radiohead at Glastonbury of tools.
Is there still not some uncertainty over the percentage of mild/asymptomatic cases Germany's more widespread testing might have identified, though ?
(Not a mathematician, just what I've been told.)
One question I have - what tests is Germany using: All the lengthy, lab tests, or are they using the quick tests in combination (see South Korea)?
Having also watched my wife struggle with LaTeX for her PhD I wouldn't want it any different. Seems to be a horrible package.
I once saw 200 in a field.
It should be simple. Stay home if you can. If you have to shop you can only go to retailers allowed to stay open by the government including The Range and your corner shop. Whilst there social distance to stay safe. Second-guessing things will just make it worse - and this is only week 2. Many many more weeks of this to drive people absolutely mad.
I think Sweden has a pretty low ICU capacity too.