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edited March 2020 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » As expected Biden storming to big victory in South Carolina

Even though barely 6% of precincts have reported as I write, the networks have all declared Joe Biden the winner in the South Carolina Primary. At the moment he’s heading for more than 50% of the entire vote and it is hard to see anything other than him sweeping the state.

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  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,551
    Good to see money can only buy you so much, even in America:

    https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1233926099605884928
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,106
    edited March 2020
    Biden should pick up other deep South states like Alabama and Oklahoma on Super Tuesday after his South Carolina win but otherwise Sanders looks likely to win big and even take Texas

    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1233920787918270470?s=20
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,551
    This is looking conclusive enough for me to transfer my shilling to KLOBUCHAR 2024
  • Gabs3Gabs3 Posts: 836
    HYUFD said:

    Biden should pick up other deep South states like Alabama and Oklahoma on Super Tuesday after his South Carolina win but otherwise Sanders looks likely to win big and even take Texas

    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1233920787918270470?s=20

    There is a large black vote in Texas, North Carolina and others.
  • nunu2nunu2 Posts: 1,453
    Wow. This is a pretty big win for Joe.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1233929855726690304
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Apparently the first case discovered in Italy was a fit 38 year old with no pre-existing conditions.

    Mattia, the 38-year-old from Lodi "patient 1" of the Coronavirus in Italy, who since Friday, February 21 is hospitalized in serious condition in the infectious diseases department of the Policlinico San Matteo di Pavia, a facility run by Raffaele Bruno from Cosenza, where he was transported from Codogno Hospital when what appeared to be common flu symptoms began to show serious respiratory complications. Mattia is the most serious patient of all patients hospitalized for Coronavirus in Italy: The Calabrian doctor Bruno explains that Mattia is "sedated, unconscious and intubated because he is not autonomous in breathing.

    http://www.strettoweb.com/2020/02/coronavirus-38enne-lodi-gravi-condizioni/977269/

    Without adequate medical care Mattia would be dead. The care he is receiving at the moment would not be possible if there were many more cases. While the risk to healthy young people is low, there is still a very real risk.
  • SagandSagand Posts: 35
    edited March 2020
    HYUFD said:

    Biden should pick up other deep South states like Alabama and Oklahoma on Super Tuesday after his South Carolina win but otherwise Sanders looks likely to win big and even take Texas

    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1233920787918270470?s=20

    The question is how the Bloomberg vote holds up. Movement from Bloomberg -> Biden puts Biden over top in North Carolina and close in Texas based on those polls.

    There is a Black vote in North Carolina (32%) and Texas (19%) but nothing close to the 55% in South Carolina
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,453
    Biden million dollar teeth
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,106
    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1233926146955337728?s=20
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 121,106
    Sagand said:

    HYUFD said:

    Biden should pick up other deep South states like Alabama and Oklahoma on Super Tuesday after his South Carolina win but otherwise Sanders looks likely to win big and even take Texas

    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1233920787918270470?s=20

    The question is how the Bloomberg vote holds up. Movement from Bloomberg -> Biden puts Biden over top in North Carolina and close in Texas based on those polls.

    There is a Black vote in North Carolina (32%) and Texas (19%) but nothing close to the 55% in South Carolina
    North Carolina might shift to Biden, Sanders should still win Texas though as well as California
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,453
    Sanders rising
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Damn, that was a very strong speech from Biden. Moderates about to get steamrolled.
  • ArtistArtist Posts: 1,892
    Sanders was betting favourite to win South Carolina eight days ago.
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    53% reporting - Biden 49.9% Sanders 19.3%
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    https://twitter.com/PolitcalCapitaI/status/1233939912073805825?s=20
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,409
    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/PolitcalCapitaI/status/1233939912073805825?s=20

    Reduces the number of active campaigns to seven.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,551
    Chameleon said:

    Damn, that was a very strong speech from Biden. Moderates about to get steamrolled.

    The primary process is a little bit nuts but it really strengthens the game of the people who survive it.
  • SagandSagand Posts: 35
    edited March 2020
    HYUFD said:

    Sagand said:

    HYUFD said:

    Biden should pick up other deep South states like Alabama and Oklahoma on Super Tuesday after his South Carolina win but otherwise Sanders looks likely to win big and even take Texas

    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1233920787918270470?s=20

    The question is how the Bloomberg vote holds up. Movement from Bloomberg -> Biden puts Biden over top in North Carolina and close in Texas based on those polls.

    There is a Black vote in North Carolina (32%) and Texas (19%) but nothing close to the 55% in South Carolina
    North Carolina might shift to Biden, Sanders should still win Texas though as well as California
    Yeah, Sanders still is going to have a fairly large delegate lead coming out of Tuesday (which is a day a large chunk of the South votes). So Biden does need to widen his appeal to have any chance of catching up after that. If he can fully absorb the Bloomberg vote in places like Illinois and Pennsylvania he still has some hope.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    edited March 2020
    Italy now on 1,128 confirmed Covid-19 infections and 29 deaths. Meanwhile yesterday the US CDC confirmed a grand total of 13 tests....less than 1% of what the UK did...
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    CarlottaVance said:

    Italy now on 1,128 confirmed Covid-19 infections and 29 deaths. Meanwhile yesterday the US CDC confirmed a grand total of 13 tests....less than 1% of what the UK did...

    There's already big signs of substantial community transmission, with new potential clusters popping up all over (4 cases in Chicago apparently). By the time the US realises that they have a problem containment will be pointless.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,551
    Sagand said:

    HYUFD said:

    Biden should pick up other deep South states like Alabama and Oklahoma on Super Tuesday after his South Carolina win but otherwise Sanders looks likely to win big and even take Texas

    https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1233920787918270470?s=20

    The question is how the Bloomberg vote holds up. Movement from Bloomberg -> Biden puts Biden over top in North Carolina and close in Texas based on those polls.

    There is a Black vote in North Carolina (32%) and Texas (19%) but nothing close to the 55% in South Carolina
    I think all the moderates will get squished but *especially* Bloomberg. It's one thing to get a polling result by showing TV ads in states that aren't voting yet where nobody else is on the air and the voters haven't thought much about it. It's a totally different thing to actually get votes. Steyer just trialled the same strategy on SC and it fizzled, and he's a much less atrocious candidate than Bloomberg.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Chameleon said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Italy now on 1,128 confirmed Covid-19 infections and 29 deaths. Meanwhile yesterday the US CDC confirmed a grand total of 13 tests....less than 1% of what the UK did...

    There's already big signs of substantial community transmission, with new potential clusters popping up all over (4 cases in Chicago apparently). By the time the US realises that they have a problem containment will be pointless.
    John Hopkins:

    6 confirmed
    Seattle, WA US
    3 confirmed
    Santa Clara, CA US
    2 confirmed
    Chicago, IL US
    2 confirmed
    Sacramento County, CA US
    2 confirmed
    San Benito, CA US
    2 confirmed
    San Diego County, CA US
    1 confirmed
    Boston, MA US
    1 confirmed
    Humboldt County, CA US
    1 confirmed
    Los Angeles, CA US
    1 confirmed
    Madison, WI US
    1 confirmed
    Orange, CA US
    1 confirmed
    Portland, OR US
    1 confirmed
    San Antonio, TX US
    1 confirmed
    Snohomish County, WA US
    1 confirmed
    Tempe, AZ US

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Rutnam - Mail not a fan (tho in fairness the DoT mess and Rudd defenestration don't look great):

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8060985/Sir-Calamity-spitting-fury-mandarin-Philip-Rutnam-summons-BBC-announce-walkout.html
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    First death in Austrakia - from the Diamond Princess:

    https://twitter.com/jakpost/status/1233943568097693696?s=20
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 31,409
    edited March 2020
    In South Korea the death rate from coronavirus is 0.48%, considerably less than many other countries like China and Iran. 3,526 cases and 17 fatalities according to John Hopkins University.

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    FPT:
    Chameleon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Chameleon said:

    eadric said:

    Something more encouraging, the graph for deaths and cases on

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


    show a distinct levelling off.

    However this might be because the data is distorted by Chinese under-reporting, and/or the uniquely draconian Chinese reaction; added to which, the new rise in cases around the world has yet to impact on overall numbers.

    The next week should tell us. But maybe there's a glimmer of hope.

    As you well know, China cases are irrelevant to the worldwide spread. Look at the map excluding China cases.

    Open up this: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    Maximise the chart in the bottom right, and look at the yellow line (cases outside China).

    29/02: 6.4k (so far)
    28/02: 5.3k
    27/02: 4.3k
    25/02: 2.8k
    20/02: 1.2k
    14/02: 0.6k

    That shows a pretty dramatic slowing of the infection rate:

    20.75%
    23.26%
    53.57%
    133.33%
    100.00%

    (Although, of course, there might be a number of countries which - errrrr... - aren't doing a very good job of tracking infections. Like, the US.)
    Ah sorry, I should have clarified that those were selected dates, not every date.

    The rough daily infection rates are:

    15th Feb-20th Feb: 15%
    21-25: 24%
    26-27: 24%
    28: 24%
    29: 23+% (depending on how many more cases are found. Another 100 would raise it to the standard 24%.)
    29th ended up at 6.8k. So a new record of a 28% 1 day jump in intl cases. So far the big 'gains' are in Italy, SK, and Iran. Expect USA, France, Germany to start to contribute significantly in a couple of days.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,551
    edited March 2020
    Andy_JS said:

    In South Korea the death rate from coronavirus is 0.48%, considerably less than many other countries like China and Iran. 3,526 cases and 17 fatalities according to John Hopkins University.

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    Guess the difference is that as well as good medical care they have really great testing, they probably have a more accurate number for how many were infected than everyone else.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,424
    edited March 2020
    Andy_JS said:

    In South Korea the death rate from coronavirus is 0.48%, considerably less than many other countries like China and Iran. 3,526 cases and 17 fatalities according to John Hopkins University.

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    I would also hope as more is learned about this virus that it will be better understood what is best practice. During the initial outbreak, not only where obviously China covering it up, but I would think they were pissing in the dark of how to possibly treat those.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Easy mistake for a septuagenarian to make:

    https://twitter.com/afshinrattansi/status/1233850057377681409?s=20
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,424
    CarlottaVance said:

    Easy mistake for a septuagenarian to make:

    https://twitter.com/afshinrattansi/status/1233850057377681409?s=20

    His campaign is making George Bush Jnr seem like somebody who never made a gaffe in his life.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Trump press conference:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkQMbAmoJj?t=1m8s

    "Taken most aggressive action of any country in the world"

    Yeah, right - if the US was testing at the same rate as the UK they would have done over 50,000 tests, not 472.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,424
    edited March 2020
    This is going to cause a stir...

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition

    A 23-year-old woman who is taking legal action against an NHS gender clinic says she should have been challenged more by medical staff over her decision to transition to a male as a teenager.

    A judge gave the go-ahead this week for a full hearing of the case against the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust.

    Lawyers will argue children cannot give informed consent to treatment delaying puberty or helping them to transition.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,453
    edited March 2020
    Noone is ever going to give a toss about Iowa again
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Andy_JS said:

    In South Korea the death rate from coronavirus is 0.48%, considerably less than many other countries like China and Iran. 3,526 cases and 17 fatalities according to John Hopkins University.

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    Very good testing, very competent medical care, but most importantly, relatively tiny numbers of infected. Outside Hubei, China had a death rate of 0.6%, just a bit over 1/10th of what the mortality rate was in Wuhan.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,453
    Andy_JS said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/PolitcalCapitaI/status/1233939912073805825?s=20

    Reduces the number of active campaigns to seven.
    Includes Gabbard who isn't remotely near a delegate anywhere
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    https://twitter.com/Rschooley/status/1233911031719583744?s=20
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    CarlottaVance said:

    Trump press conference:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkQMbAmoJj?t=1m8s

    "Taken most aggressive action of any country in the world"

    Yeah, right - if the US was testing at the same rate as the UK they would have done over 50,000 tests, not 472.

    President Trump: "We took immediate action"
    VP Pence: "I've only been in this job a few days"

    All Pence talks about is 'masks" - no mention of "tests".
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 50,644
    CarlottaVance said:

    Trump press conference:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkQMbAmoJj?t=1m8s

    "Taken most aggressive action of any country in the world"

    Yeah, right - if the US was testing at the same rate as the UK they would have done over 50,000 tests, not 472.

    "If you're healthy, you'll probably go through a process and you'll be fine."
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    That's one way to contain it:

    https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1233727484711120897?s=20
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,551
    CarlottaVance said:

    That's one way to contain it:

    https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1233727484711120897?s=20

    This may reduce the incentive for other infected people to seek diagnosis
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    williamglenn said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Trump press conference:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkQMbAmoJj?t=1m8s

    "Taken most aggressive action of any country in the world"

    Yeah, right - if the US was testing at the same rate as the UK they would have done over 50,000 tests, not 472.

    "If you're healthy, you'll probably go through a process and you'll be fine."
    Just watched the whole 55 minutes. Number of mentions of hand washing - zero.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    edited March 2020
    So, we still have eight layable candidates, and their back prices sum to a 90% chance. Who’s the magic 10% nobody, now that it’s clearly a three horse race? 
    Candidate	BF back price
    Sanders.          2.08
    Biden.            3.8
    Bloomberg	  9.6
    Buttigeig        44
    Clinton H 	 55
    Warren	        160
    Klobuchar	700
    Obama M	        260
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1233963254759723009?s=20
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    In the Presser Trump eulogised the Washington state man who died of Coronavirus as "a wonderful woman".....
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    This is going to cause a stir...

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition

    A 23-year-old woman who is taking legal action against an NHS gender clinic says she should have been challenged more by medical staff over her decision to transition to a male as a teenager.

    A judge gave the go-ahead this week for a full hearing of the case against the Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust.

    Lawyers will argue children cannot give informed consent to treatment delaying puberty or helping them to transition.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020

    That case was always going to happen sooner or later, performing such life-altering elective treatment on children really isn’t a good idea
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    CarlottaVance said:

    williamglenn said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Trump press conference:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkQMbAmoJj?t=1m8s

    "Taken most aggressive action of any country in the world"

    Yeah, right - if the US was testing at the same rate as the UK they would have done over 50,000 tests, not 472.

    "If you're healthy, you'll probably go through a process and you'll be fine."
    Just watched the whole 55 minutes. Number of mentions of hand washing - zero.
    Isn’t Trump himself totally paranoid about washing his hands regularly?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Great work in Singapore tracing virus path - new serological test works among recovered vs current PCR test which only works among infected - allowing them to link two previous separate clusters into one, so they no longer have any unidentified sources:

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/grace-assembly-coronavirus-mystery-solved-mega-cluster-linked-to-2-wuhan-tourists-via-a
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    https://twitter.com/davidlipson/status/1233973979401994240?s=20
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Sandpit said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    williamglenn said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Trump press conference:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkQMbAmoJj?t=1m8s

    "Taken most aggressive action of any country in the world"

    Yeah, right - if the US was testing at the same rate as the UK they would have done over 50,000 tests, not 472.

    "If you're healthy, you'll probably go through a process and you'll be fine."
    Just watched the whole 55 minutes. Number of mentions of hand washing - zero.
    Isn’t Trump himself totally paranoid about washing his hands regularly?
    Yes - he mentioned it in a previous press conference - but not today.

    Today was all about reassuring Americans the markets....
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    https://twitter.com/nbcsnl/status/1233977658662359041?s=20
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    The announcement Rutnam blocked Patel from making ahead of the GE:

    https://twitter.com/PA/status/1233982295574548480?s=20
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,551
    CarlottaVance said:

    https://twitter.com/davidlipson/status/1233973979401994240?s=20

    Baemy may want to stay in and take some delegates from Minnesota, which is otherwise liable to go heavily for Bernie.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,551
    edited March 2020
    Sandpit said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    williamglenn said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Trump press conference:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkQMbAmoJj?t=1m8s

    "Taken most aggressive action of any country in the world"

    Yeah, right - if the US was testing at the same rate as the UK they would have done over 50,000 tests, not 472.

    "If you're healthy, you'll probably go through a process and you'll be fine."
    Just watched the whole 55 minutes. Number of mentions of hand washing - zero.
    Isn’t Trump himself totally paranoid about washing his hands regularly?
    It's impressive how badly they've screwed up the politics of this, he should have been out ahead with his policy of keeping out foreigners and washing his hands like Lady MacBeth
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    CarlottaVance said:

    Rutnam - Mail not a fan (tho in fairness the DoT mess and Rudd defenestration don't look great):

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8060985/Sir-Calamity-spitting-fury-mandarin-Philip-Rutnam-summons-BBC-announce-walkout.html

    That doesn’t read well for him at all, especially the Windrush stuff which was an administrative error rather than a political one. It will be rather amusing if Amber Rudd ends up helping Priti Patel’s defence.

    There’s a fine line between advising the minister in the department of the realities of policy decisions, and being the stereotypical Sir Humphrey who seems to relish blocking the programme on which the government was elected.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    edited March 2020
    edmundintokyo said:

    Sandpit said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    williamglenn said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Trump press conference:

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1YpKkQMbAmoJj?t=1m8s

    "Taken most aggressive action of any country in the world"

    Yeah, right - if the US was testing at the same rate as the UK they would have done over 50,000 tests, not 472.

    "If you're healthy, you'll probably go through a process and you'll be fine."
    Just watched the whole 55 minutes. Number of mentions of hand washing - zero.
    Isn’t Trump himself totally paranoid about washing his hands regularly?
    It's impressive how badly they've screwed up the politics of this, he should have been out ahead with his policy of keeping out foreigners and washing his hands like Lady MacBeth
    Indeed. Trump’s usually quite good at the base politics of these things, even if he is a very polarising character. It wouldn’t have been difficult for him to demand quarantine for anyone returning from China, Korea or Iran, then include Italy when various Democrats accuse him of being racist. But he just seems to be blundering through, and the CDC don’t have a clue what’s going on. The exponential rise is cases is likely to continue (as it has everywhere else) and it looks like no-one is in charge.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    Pulpstar said:

    Noone is ever going to give a toss about Iowa again

    Betfair STILL hasn’t settled the Iowa Caucus market, and it was nearly four weeks ago now. Everyone else has long since moved on (Pete who?) and thinking about ‘Super’ Tuesday. What an almighty screw-up by the Iowa Democrats.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    edited March 2020
    Two related stories:

    https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1233877978175676416?s=20

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    CarlottaVance said:

    Two related stories:

    https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1233877978175676416?s=20

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020

    Taxpayers’ Alliance released their annual report last week on public funding of campaign groups. They found over £39m paid to groups who then mostly lobbied against government policy. https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/taxpayer_funded_lobbying_and_political_campaigning_2020
  • alex_alex_ Posts: 7,518
    Is it time to ban all air travel toand from the US? If they can’t be bothered to take this thing seriously.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,124
    CarlottaVance said:

    The announcement Rutnam blocked Patel from making ahead of the GE:

    https://twitter.com/PA/status/1233982295574548480?s=20

    According to the linked story, this was first announced in September (although the programme has been reduced since then). The government would have been in purdah during the election campaign if that is when Patel was "blocked".
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,190
    Buttigieg looks done for to me.

    He may still decide to hang around till Wednesday though.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,190
    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Noone is ever going to give a toss about Iowa again

    Betfair STILL hasn’t settled the Iowa Caucus market, and it was nearly four weeks ago now. Everyone else has long since moved on (Pete who?) and thinking about ‘Super’ Tuesday. What an almighty screw-up by the Iowa Democrats.
    Betfair are like a utility company delaying your final bill and refund after your switch.

    They just dig that free cashflow so much.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,453
    Iowa was correct not to be settled early but now it is certified it should be - that happened a few hours ago.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    CarlottaVance said:

    Two related stories:

    https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1233877978175676416?s=20

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020

    I see "Gender Critical" groups being silenced in Scotland by *checks notes* getting the consultation re opened after it had closed the first time, repeatedly holding meetings in Holyrood and having the support of every broadsheet in the country.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Sandpit said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Two related stories:

    https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1233877978175676416?s=20

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020

    Taxpayers’ Alliance released their annual report last week on public funding of campaign groups. They found over £39m paid to groups who then mostly lobbied against government policy. https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/taxpayer_funded_lobbying_and_political_campaigning_2020
    Did the the Tax Payers Alliance then say who funded themselves?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,124
    Sanders is back into 2.02 for the nomination. He drifted for a time overnight but is now back in to where he was yesterday.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    Not too sure that (American) late-night comedians making light of the Coronavirus situation or turning it into the usual president-bashing routine is going to help much either.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=rPUEbTxLpas
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    edited March 2020
    Alistair said:

    Sandpit said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Two related stories:

    https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1233877978175676416?s=20

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020

    Taxpayers’ Alliance released their annual report last week on public funding of campaign groups. They found over £39m paid to groups who then mostly lobbied against government policy. https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/taxpayer_funded_lobbying_and_political_campaigning_2020
    Did the the Tax Payers Alliance then say who funded themselves?
    They have a donate button on their website, and a whole page dedicated to their own funding. You can donate to them if you like ;)
    https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/funding
    They have 12 staff and an annual budget of around £1m, which last year was made up of nearly 2,000 donations.
    They don’t take public money, nor donations from anyone who seeks to influence their policy direction.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Alistair said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Two related stories:

    https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1233877978175676416?s=20

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020

    I see "Gender Critical" groups being silenced in Scotland by *checks notes* getting the consultation re opened after it had closed the first time, repeatedly holding meetings in Holyrood and having the support of every broadsheet in the country.
    Which “Gender Critical” groups does the SNP government give taxpayers money to?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    Casino_Royale said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Noone is ever going to give a toss about Iowa again

    Betfair STILL hasn’t settled the Iowa Caucus market, and it was nearly four weeks ago now. Everyone else has long since moved on (Pete who?) and thinking about ‘Super’ Tuesday. What an almighty screw-up by the Iowa Democrats.
    Betfair are like a utility company delaying your final bill and refund after your switch.

    They just dig that free cashflow so much.
    To be fair to Betfair, they’re not the ones at fault here. The result has only just been formally announced, so if there’s no way of challenging it further they should pay out when someone on their politics desk wakes up this morning.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,453
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Sanders is back into 2.02 for the nomination. He drifted for a time overnight but is now back in to where he was yesterday.

    It was an OK result for him - Warren and Steyer did poorly
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,190
    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,539
    Good morning, everyone.

    Yet another weekend storm. Humbug.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    CarlottaVance said:

    Alistair said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Two related stories:

    https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1233877978175676416?s=20

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020

    I see "Gender Critical" groups being silenced in Scotland by *checks notes* getting the consultation re opened after it had closed the first time, repeatedly holding meetings in Holyrood and having the support of every broadsheet in the country.
    Which “Gender Critical” groups does the SNP government give taxpayers money to?
    About a quarter of its MPs and MSPs who are literally going against the SNP manifesto promise.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,574
    edited March 2020
    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    Don't always buy from Amazon either, I found books I wanted to read at double digit prices and then searched on World of Books and got them for about £3 with free delivery.. That's a lot cheaper than even www.abebooks.co.uk which is a great resource for books. (.com) if you are overseas. Its a website of all the second hand (or most) second hand booksellers).
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,453
    Sanders will collect 15 delegates from South Carolina, Biden getting 39.
    2016 was Clinton 39, Sanders 14
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Alistair said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Alistair said:

    CarlottaVance said:

    Two related stories:

    https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/1233877978175676416?s=20

    NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51676020

    I see "Gender Critical" groups being silenced in Scotland by *checks notes* getting the consultation re opened after it had closed the first time, repeatedly holding meetings in Holyrood and having the support of every broadsheet in the country.
    Which “Gender Critical” groups does the SNP government give taxpayers money to?
    About a quarter of its MPs and MSPs who are literally going against the SNP manifesto promise.
    So the answer to the question is “none”?

    They only support groups who support them?
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,551
    Sandpit said:

    Not too sure that (American) late-night comedians making light of the Coronavirus situation or turning it into the usual president-bashing routine is going to help much either.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=rPUEbTxLpas

    It's not Bill Maher's job to help.
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Well, Biden didn't get to 3.5 but I'll gladly lay him at 3.85 to equalise outcome between him and Bernie and repair my Bloomberg hole.

    Amazingly Warren actually shortened from yesterday! Go Liz.
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    edited March 2020
    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    I don't understand this. Do you get a notification or something? They never badger me.

    I don't really like Amazon very much but when I went into Waterstones to buy the latest Michael Connelly 'The Night Fire' (which is quite superb by the way) they wanted £20 off me. Amazon offered me the same hardback for £8. It does get really hard to support your local bookshop under such circumstances.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,539
    F1: first race is in a fortnight.

    The Ladbrokes market (win) is now fifth the odds top 3, which is more like it.

    I had a £1 free bet, and decided to put it on Sainz at 251 each way (so, 51 on a podium, essentially). McLaren historically do well in Oz. Unlikely to come off, but it's a free bet, so...
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    edmundintokyo said:

    Sandpit said:

    Not too sure that (American) late-night comedians making light of the Coronavirus situation or turning it into the usual president-bashing routine is going to help much either.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=rPUEbTxLpas

    It's not Bill Maher's job to help.
    Indeed not, but comments like the LA air is so bad it kills all germs straight away are probably best not said, even in jest.

    The comedians are usually better at finding the right balance with serious stories, which suggests that there’s a major misunderstanding of the risks in the USA. They’re probably already now past the point at which a serious epidemic can be averted.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,522
    Oh for the good old days, when politics & media was inhabited by normal people.

    https://twitter.com/SKenson/status/1233870930499252225?s=20
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    You need to unsubscribe from something. I never get this.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,059
    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    Good morning all. And a real first day of Spring it is here, too!

    Amazon seem to have undergone some sort of hacking. We frequently...... sometimes three or four times a day..... bet an American woman telling us our Prime account is about to be renewed.
    We haven't got a Prime account.
    Tells me that if I press 1 I can be connected, but I'm not getting into their system.
    The calling numbers are all different, so it can't be genuine.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,539
    edited March 2020
    Mr. Root, Abebooks can be very useful for second hand copies but do not* that it's owned by Amazon now.

    Edited extra bit: note*, even.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,190
    IshmaelZ said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    You need to unsubscribe from something. I never get this.
    Ah.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,574
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Root, Abebooks can be very useful for second hand copies but do not* that it's owned by Amazon now.

    Edited extra bit: note*, even.

    jeez .. so its World of Books first resource then....
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 59,190
    Alistair said:

    Well, Biden didn't get to 3.5 but I'll gladly lay him at 3.85 to equalise outcome between him and Bernie and repair my Bloomberg hole.

    Amazingly Warren actually shortened from yesterday! Go Liz.

    I've laid off Biden a bit this morning and filled in most of my Bloomberg hole at 10.5/11.

    Will dig it deeper again if he drops down to 7s again.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,539
    Mr. Root, I try and buy from Waterstones when I can. It's a chain, but a proper bookshop too.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,574
    OldKingCole said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    Good morning all. And a real first day of Spring it is here, too!

    Amazon seem to have undergone some sort of hacking. We frequently...... sometimes three or four times a day..... bet an American woman telling us our Prime account is about to be renewed.
    We haven't got a Prime account.
    Tells me that if I press 1 I can be connected, but I'm not getting into their system.
    The calling numbers are all different, so it can't be genuine.
    its a scam there are similar ones telling you £600 has been taken from your credit card/bank account, press 1 to be connected to the bank etc etc. they sound so genuine. A lady in our Church lost a lot of money over this.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,407
    edited March 2020
    OldKingCole said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    Good morning all. And a real first day of Spring it is here, too!

    Amazon seem to have undergone some sort of hacking. We frequently...... sometimes three or four times a day..... bet an American woman telling us our Prime account is about to be renewed.
    We haven't got a Prime account.
    Tells me that if I press 1 I can be connected, but I'm not getting into their system.
    The calling numbers are all different, so it can't be genuine.
    Sounds like the latest version of “Windows Support” calls from a few years ago.

    My office full of genuine IT support folks would play games with how long we could keep one of them on the line, as they attempted to dial in to our PC to install their malware.

    We figured it was community service, as they wouldn’t be on the phone to our parents and grandparents while we were dicking them around. ;)

    Amazon haven’t been hacked, the scammers are just calling random numbers. Registering with the Telephone Preference Service might help, but most of these scammers are offshore, usually in India. If you get through to a human, ask them if their mum is proud of what they do - they really don’t like that question.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,124
    Sandpit said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Noone is ever going to give a toss about Iowa again

    Betfair STILL hasn’t settled the Iowa Caucus market, and it was nearly four weeks ago now. Everyone else has long since moved on (Pete who?) and thinking about ‘Super’ Tuesday. What an almighty screw-up by the Iowa Democrats.
    Betfair are like a utility company delaying your final bill and refund after your switch.

    They just dig that free cashflow so much.
    To be fair to Betfair, they’re not the ones at fault here. The result has only just been formally announced, so if there’s no way of challenging it further they should pay out when someone on their politics desk wakes up this morning.
    There is a small amount of 1.01 available in the meantime.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,574
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Root, I try and buy from Waterstones when I can. It's a chain, but a proper bookshop too.

    New books always seem to be £20 or so.. its a lot of money..I read a lot... unless you need it NOW.. I wait 6 months till they appear second hand in v good condition... at less than half that price...
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,465
    IshmaelZ said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    You need to unsubscribe from something. I never get this.
    TripAdvisor is annoying me similarly, even though I quite like it as a service. I live in Godalming and had a visitor, who I booked a B&B for. Ever since, TripAdvisor asks me every day whether I'm thinking of visiting Godalming again, so they can make suggestions. There is no "unsubscribe" option or any other obvious way to stop it.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,059
    Messrs Square Root & Sandpit, it's obviously a scam, but I wish I could make them stop. It's a different number each time so I can't block them. I'm reaching the stage of not answering anything; friends & family will leave a message.
    Incidentally, why don't those calls come through on mobiles.
    We andyway get few if any such calls on those. About the only ones I get on that are once a month asking me about a non-existent accident.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,451
    Political correctness gone mad

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/mar/01/british-museum-put-mary-beard-on-the-board-despite-downing-st-veto
  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    As an author I try to support my local bookshop.

    However, Waterstones are not the enlightened company you might think. Little better than Amazon, frankly, as these links illustrate:

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/arts-culture-news/waterstones-founder-no-guilt-over-16694334

    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/feb/27/waterstones-defends-minimum-wage-in-year-of-record-profits
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited March 2020
    Sandpit said:

    OldKingCole said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    Good morning all. And a real first day of Spring it is here, too!

    Amazon seem to have undergone some sort of hacking. We frequently...... sometimes three or four times a day..... bet an American woman telling us our Prime account is about to be renewed.
    We haven't got a Prime account.
    Tells me that if I press 1 I can be connected, but I'm not getting into their system.
    The calling numbers are all different, so it can't be genuine.
    Sounds like the latest version of “Windows Support” calls from a few years ago.

    My office full of genuine IT support folks would play games with how long we could keep one of them on the line, as they attempted to dial in to our PC to install their malware.

    We figured it was community service, as they wouldn’t be on the phone to our parents and grandparents while we were dicking them around. ;)

    Amazon haven’t been hacked, the scammers are just calling random numbers. Registering with the Telephone Preference Service might help, but most of these scammers are offshore, usually in India. If you get through to a human, ask them if their mum is proud of what they do - they really don’t like that question.
    The other insidious one is "something wrong with your ebay purchase"

    There a security professional with a blog post about how he almost fell for one of them because, by coincidence, he received the email 5 minutes after making an eBay purchase.

    Just shows how easy it is to fall for "obvious" scams.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,059
    NickPalmer said:

    IshmaelZ said:

    Casino_Royale said:

    When will Amazon learn I don't want to review every purchase I make with it?

    Waitrose don't ask me every time I go into their store. For every product..

    You need to unsubscribe from something. I never get this.
    TripAdvisor is annoying me similarly, even though I quite like it as a service. I live in Godalming and had a visitor, who I booked a B&B for. Ever since, TripAdvisor asks me every day whether I'm thinking of visiting Godalming again, so they can make suggestions. There is no "unsubscribe" option or any other obvious way to stop it.
    Odd; I use Trip Advisor quite a lot and I've never had that. Flashes up in my inbox every so often telling me I'm nearly a Star Member or something, but there doesn't seem to be any advantage in so being.
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