I would be great , but to infer it keeps the union going is just fantasy.
I agree, it won't 'save the union'. I suspect that's more The Sun's hyperbole than Nicky Morgan's though. Though she has attracted the sobriquet 'Thicky Morgan', so who knows?
I would be great , but to infer it keeps the union going is just fantasy.
I agree, it won't 'save the union'. I suspect that's more The Sun's hyperbole than Nicky Morgan's though. Though she has attracted the sobriquet 'Thicky Morgan', so who knows?
A 2030 UK-wide (and Ireland) World Cup bid was in the Conservative manifesto. Obviously, the blue team had not costed the enormous bribes needed to have any other country vote for a tournament with as many as six places going to automatic qualifiers.
You know the one thing I think I may recall of 2019 is not all the Brexit kerfuffle. I think it's more that 'Bercow' should never have been 'one across' in the crossword.
He may get all sorts of honours and the like - but top billing in the PB Xmas crossword!?
(I have little recollection of previous 'one across' accolades, but please do enlighten me if you happen to know)
That is petty , he saved parliamentary democracy from the nasty Tories. He should be enobled forthwith.
Perhaps, but 'one across' !
(I was so sure it was 'Clarke' until I couldn't make it fit)
@MattW -Ashfield: the independent there ruined a great betting opportunity.
I`ve been catching up on podcasts and listened to Nick Robinson`s podcast "political Thinking" - Laura Pidcock 31 October.
Bless her, she had no idea - chuckle - she could be back though - and she`s like Corbyn but with a brain.
It’s comparatively unusual for a young politician who loses their seat early on in their career to come back and make a mark in politics. Churchill, Macmillan and Foot are notable exceptions. But they are exceptions. Even for quite high profile and well established MPs, it’s usually a distinct blight. Portillo, for example, never recovered personally or politically from the shock of unexpectedly losing his seat. Rifkind was hardly better. Gordon Walker just kept losing. Stephen Twigg was also damaged.
Pidcock may buck the trend. But she looks more like a Corbynite Ed Balls to me.
I`ve been catching up on podcasts and listened to Nick Robinson`s podcast "political Thinking" - Laura Pidcock 31 October.
Bless her, she had no idea - chuckle - she could be back though - and she`s like Corbyn but with a brain.
It’s comparatively unusual for a young politician who loses their seat early on in their career to come back and make a mark in politics. Churchill, Macmillan and Foot are notable exceptions. But they are exceptions. Even for quite high profile and well established MPs, it’s usually a distinct blight. Portillo, for example, never recovered personally or politically from the shock of unexpectedly losing his seat. Rifkind was hardly better. Gordon Walker just kept losing. Stephen Twigg was also damaged.
Pidcock may buck the trend. But she looks more like a Corbynite Ed Balls to me.
What's Pidcock ever done ?
Lost a safe Labour council seat in 2017 on a 25% swing.
Got elected to a safe Labour parliamentary constituency.
2017: People were inclined to think the best of Theresa May - despite some of the evidence.
2019: People were inclined to think the worst of Boris - beause of some of the evidence.
If however Boris should turn out to generally be a Good Egg as PM, there are plenty of voters to win back. Bad news for the LibDems - all of their literature at the end of the campaign was banging the anti-Boris drum.
The other factor in this election was the virtual absence of Con --> Labour switchers. I didn't a single one in six weeks of door-knocking.
(Thanks to all who expressed their best wishes to me on here regarding my mother. Sadly, she passed yesterday morning.)
Sorry to hear that Mark
My condolences
Sorry to hear that - I wasn't there when my mum died a month ago.
My personal tradition is that I go and view the body in order to make a tangible full stop, which I find very helpful. It is an idea I had conversations about at University wiht Russian Orthodox and Irish Catholic types, which I have adopted since.
Suspect Pidders will not be bucking anything, except a bronco:
"‘I know it has been a long time coming, but we are on the path to justice.
And because people know that it is perfectly possible that Jeremy Corbyn could be our prime minister, you can be sure that absolutely everything, absolutely everything, is going to be thrown at us in the next few weeks.
People will say some of the most hurtful things about our people and our communities and our political representatives.
The only reason our TV was on yesterday was to have background Christmas songs. We had a great family day with 10 of us and games of Articulate into the evening. Best Christmas for quite a while.
Gavin and Stacey literally the only tv show we watched yesterday.
I would rather have poked my eyes out , was it as crap as I thought it would be.
If you liked the original show, this was more of the same, with a big bag of nostalgia. If you didn’t like the original you are unlikely to like this.
All-encompassing aversion to James Corden means I’ve never been able to go anywhere near it.
Yes I lost money betting against G and S. I watched it. Wasnt really worth the wait and not impressed with the ending that just seemed to be teeing up for another series.
2017: People were inclined to think the best of Theresa May - despite some of the evidence.
2019: People were inclined to think the worst of Boris - beause of some of the evidence.
If however Boris should turn out to generally be a Good Egg as PM, there are plenty of voters to win back. Bad news for the LibDems - all of their literature at the end of the campaign was banging the anti-Boris drum.
The other factor in this election was the virtual absence of Con --> Labour switchers. I didn't a single one in six weeks of door-knocking.
(Thanks to all who expressed their best wishes to me on here regarding my mother. Sadly, she passed yesterday morning.)
Sorry to hear of your loss, my deepest sympathies.
Just back from a freezing swim in Morecambe bay, did it with my 11 year old Granddaughter, she did it for charity, and raised £300 for the local Hospice. Fabulous atmosphere, very British, with people of all ages plunging in, some very brave men in a Mankini,plenty of Women in Bikinis. Now thawing out with Brandy. Happy Christmas all.
Just back from a freezing swim in Morecambe bay, did it with my 11 year old Granddaughter, she did it for charity, and raised £300 for the local Hospice. Fabulous atmosphere, very British, with people of all ages plunging in, some very brave men in a Mankini,plenty of Women in Bikinis. Now thawing out with Brandy. Happy Christmas all.
Just back from a freezing swim in Morecambe bay, did it with my 11 year old Granddaughter, she did it for charity, and raised £300 for the local Hospice. Fabulous atmosphere, very British, with people of all ages plunging in, some very brave men in a Mankini,plenty of Women in Bikinis. Now thawing out with Brandy. Happy Christmas all.
Just back from a freezing swim in Morecambe bay, did it with my 11 year old Granddaughter, she did it for charity, and raised £300 for the local Hospice. Fabulous atmosphere, very British, with people of all ages plunging in, some very brave men in a Mankini,plenty of Women in Bikinis. Now thawing out with Brandy. Happy Christmas all.
Just back from a freezing swim in Morecambe bay, did it with my 11 year old Granddaughter, she did it for charity, and raised £300 for the local Hospice. Fabulous atmosphere, very British, with people of all ages plunging in, some very brave men in a Mankini,plenty of Women in Bikinis. Now thawing out with Brandy. Happy Christmas all.
Just back from a freezing swim in Morecambe bay, did it with my 11 year old Granddaughter, she did it for charity, and raised £300 for the local Hospice. Fabulous atmosphere, very British, with people of all ages plunging in, some very brave men in a Mankini,plenty of Women in Bikinis. Now thawing out with Brandy. Happy Christmas all.
Women are tougher in cold water it seems.
Than men I mean.
And their nipples go hard.
The Women enjoyed all the male flesh on display, but nothing went hard.
You know the one thing I think I may recall of 2019 is not all the Brexit kerfuffle. I think it's more that 'Bercow' should never have been 'one across' in the crossword.
He may get all sorts of honours and the like - but top billing in the PB Xmas crossword!?
(I have little recollection of previous 'one across' accolades, but please do enlighten me if you happen to know)
That is petty , he saved parliamentary democracy from the nasty Tories. He should be enobled forthwith.
Perhaps, but 'one across' !
(I was so sure it was 'Clarke' until I couldn't make it fit)
@MattW -Ashfield: the independent there ruined a great betting opportunity.
Just back from a freezing swim in Morecambe bay, did it with my 11 year old Granddaughter, she did it for charity, and raised £300 for the local Hospice. Fabulous atmosphere, very British, with people of all ages plunging in, some very brave men in a Mankini,plenty of Women in Bikinis. Now thawing out with Brandy. Happy Christmas all.
I`ve been catching up on podcasts and listened to Nick Robinson`s podcast "political Thinking" - Laura Pidcock 31 October.
Bless her, she had no idea - chuckle - she could be back though - and she`s like Corbyn but with a brain.
It’s comparatively unusual for a young politician who loses their seat early on in their career to come back and make a mark in politics. Churchill, Macmillan and Foot are notable exceptions. But they are exceptions. Even for quite high profile and well established MPs, it’s usually a distinct blight. Portillo, for example, never recovered personally or politically from the shock of unexpectedly losing his seat. Rifkind was hardly better. Gordon Walker just kept losing. Stephen Twigg was also damaged.
Pidcock may buck the trend. But she looks more like a Corbynite Ed Balls to me.
Rifkind lost Pentlands in 1997, and didn't return to Parliament until 2005, by which point he was... not such a young man. (I wonder, if it hadn't been a coalition government, would he have got a cabinet post in 2010?)
I`ve been catching up on podcasts and listened to Nick Robinson`s podcast "political Thinking" - Laura Pidcock 31 October.
Bless her, she had no idea - chuckle - she could be back though - and she`s like Corbyn but with a brain.
It’s comparatively unusual for a young politician who loses their seat early on in their career to come back and make a mark in politics. Churchill, Macmillan and Foot are notable exceptions. But they are exceptions. Even for quite high profile and well established MPs, it’s usually a distinct blight. Portillo, for example, never recovered personally or politically from the shock of unexpectedly losing his seat. Rifkind was hardly better. Gordon Walker just kept losing. Stephen Twigg was also damaged.
Pidcock may buck the trend. But she looks more like a Corbynite Ed Balls to me.
Rifkind lost Pentlands in 1997, and didn't return to Parliament until 2005, by which point he was... not such a young man. (I wonder, if it hadn't been a coalition government, would he have got a cabinet post in 2010?)
Probably not, as he was only interested in the Foreign Office and that was earmarked for William Hague. But I included him as an established politician.
I`ve been catching up on podcasts and listened to Nick Robinson`s podcast "political Thinking" - Laura Pidcock 31 October.
Bless her, she had no idea - chuckle - she could be back though - and she`s like Corbyn but with a brain.
It’s comparatively unusual for a young politician who loses their seat early on in their career to come back and make a mark in politics. Churchill, Macmillan and Foot are notable exceptions. But they are exceptions. Even for quite high profile and well established MPs, it’s usually a distinct blight. Portillo, for example, never recovered personally or politically from the shock of unexpectedly losing his seat. Rifkind was hardly better. Gordon Walker just kept losing. Stephen Twigg was also damaged.
Pidcock may buck the trend. But she looks more like a Corbynite Ed Balls to me.
Rifkind lost Pentlands in 1997, and didn't return to Parliament until 2005, by which point he was... not such a young man. (I wonder, if it hadn't been a coalition government, would he have got a cabinet post in 2010?)
No he fell out with Dave.
Back in 2005 Dave offered him the shadow Work & Pensions job* but Rifkind said he would only take the shadow Foreign Secretary job so Dave said cheerio.
*He was the incumbent remember, Michael Howard brought Rifkind back into the shadow cabinet straight after the 2005 GE.
The current version of the cow bothering nationalists in control of the BJP are really frightening, fortunately Congress are acting honourably.
Populist nationalism is not just a Western thing. A lot of countries and regimes are having a reaction to globalism. Even those doing well economically find the phenomenon culturally threatening, indeed possibly even more so than those on the sidelines.
Still sure there is no Russian influence in our elections? Will Boris ever publish the report? Perhaps not, while our parties benefit from the same techniques. You may recall that great sage Nick Timothy advocated greater control on social media propaganda. It is a shame he was not close to anyone in government who might have taken action.
Rifkind lost Pentlands in 1997, and didn't return to Parliament until 2005, by which point he was... not such a young man. (I wonder, if it hadn't been a coalition government, would he have got a cabinet post in 2010?)
No he fell out with Dave. Back in 2005 Dave offered him the shadow Work & Pensions job* but Rifkind said he would only take the shadow Foreign Secretary job so Dave said cheerio. *He was the incumbent remember, Michael Howard brought Rifkind back into the shadow cabinet straight after the 2005 GE.
If I remember correctly, Sir Malcolm had support from a lot of PBC posters at the time of the Conservative leadership election.
He was lucky he was up against Cameron and not Johnson. Vindictive bastard that he is. He wouldn`t have been offered anything at all.
I`ll never understand your prediliction for Pidcock. You seem so sensible otherwise.
It started with an interview I caught by accident a few months ago. The warmth seemed to be bubbling out of her. Then I listened and picked up wit and intelligence to go with that. Not the finished article, that was obvious, but the potential to be something special. That's what I thought then and subsequent exposure has mostly confirmed it for me. But, you know, the voters in her seat disagreed. 😕
Largest labour vote decrease.......Wentworth and Dearne? A couple of other south yourkshire seats also had massive Labour decreases. But why? I know they voted heavily Brexit but so did many other Labour Leave areas in the north and Midlands.
Does anyone have lists of constituencies which had:
1) Largest Conservative vote increase 2) Largest Conservative vote decrease 3) Largest Labour vote increase 4) Largest Labour vote decrease
1 & 4 possibly Bassetlaw ?
Are you going on absolute votes or %
Redcar over 12% for 1)
Redcar was +12.8% Grimsby was +12.7% Bassetlaw was +11.9%
but Mansfield was +17.3%, Walsall North was +14.2% and Stoke South was +13.1%.
All three were Conservative gains in 2017.
If the Conservatives gains of 2019 have similar patterns ...
Also does anyone know why Blackburn and Burnley now have totally different electoral patterns ?
Broadly - Blackburn is 70% white, Burnley 87%
It seems its really hard for the tories to win in an area that is 30% non white.
Hence Labour trying to expand the franchise to non-citizens. Boundary equalisation is apparently gerrymandering, but extending the franchise to non-citizens wasn't. It's amazing how these two policies were presented by the lefty liberal media.
Largest labour vote decrease.......Wentworth and Dearne? A couple of other south yourkshire seats also had massive Labour decreases. But why? I know they voted heavily Brexit but so did many other Labour Leave areas in the north and Midlands.
It was one of those seats where on paper it looks as if the incumbent was saved by a rather large Brexit party vote. Does anyone have an explanation why BRX did particularly well in a few seats?
I`ll never understand your prediliction for Pidcock. You seem so sensible otherwise.
It started with an interview I caught by accident a few months ago. The warmth seemed to be bubbling out of her. Then I listened and picked up wit and intelligence to go with that. Not the finished article, that was obvious, but the potential to be something special. That's what I thought then and subsequent exposure has mostly confirmed it for me. But, you know, the voters in her seat disagreed. 😕
I am sure she is very nice basically, but it seemed to me that she was too old to buy the 'Never kissed a Tory', 'could never have a Tory friend', 'you vile Tory scum should all vote Labour' kind of approach. And her letter to constituents after she had lost showed scant insight into her own electors.
Largest labour vote decrease.......Wentworth and Dearne? A couple of other south yourkshire seats also had massive Labour decreases. But why? I know they voted heavily Brexit but so did many other Labour Leave areas in the north and Midlands.
It was one of those seats where on paper it looks as if the incumbent was saved by a rather large Brexit party vote. Does anyone have an explanation why BRX did particularly well in a few seats?
Tories wouldn't have been particularly targeting the likes of Wentworth, Doncaster North, Hemsworth and Pontefract. Would have been focussing on the Bolsovers, Bassetlaws, and Rother Valleys round here. The former required much bigger swings
Is there a site where one can look at the declarations for GE2019 en masse? Anyone know svp? Or at least some of the most interesting results/portillo moments>.
On another matter I was reading this in the Independent that I found on the www.
Remarkable if true(as suggested)
"Almost every election since the Second World War has been characterised by two things: that the polls hardly shift during the campaign and, closely connected, that all the noise and tumult is mere background. People make their minds up years before."
High time and long overdue they were stripped of their royal warrant and ordered to get out of politics or give up their charitable status.
What? That's just the RSPCA doing their job.
Maugham has quite gleefully tweeted that he smashed the fox to death with his baseball bat. Brave man. If this was some teen on a horrible estate, doing that, the lout would go straight in front of the beak, and rightly so.
Maugham didn't even call the RSPCA or a vet first, just went out there and cudgelled the poor critter to a pulp.
High time and long overdue they were stripped of their royal warrant and ordered to get out of politics or give up their charitable status.
What? That's just the RSPCA doing their job.
Maugham has quite gleefully tweeted that he smashed the fox to death with his baseball bat. Brave man. If this was some teen on a horrible estate, doing that, the lout would go straight on front of the beak, and rightly so.
Maugham didn't even call the RSPCA or a vet first, just went out there and cudgelled the poor critter to a pulp.
Yuk. Arrest him.
The RSPCA are not doing their job. They have no more powers to investigate allegations of animal cruelty than anyone else. They pretend they do but they are lying. If they are concerned they should contact the police.
And as foxes are vermin, and dangerous vermin at that, I don’t quite know what your point is. If it was trapped, technically it would be an offence to release it, believe it or not,
The story about Jolyon Maugham bludgeoning a fox to death, while wearing his wife's oversmall kimono, is quite something. Maybe career ending.
It comes a couple of days after A C Grayling had a public meltdown and claimed ten metre tall geckos from Mars were running the planet.
It looks like the Brexychosis is entering its final florid stage as we approach Jan 31. I am worried for Ian Dunt and that Irish diplomat lady.
Was he defending chickens? I know I should just look on Twitter but I don't think I want to.
He claims he was. He has chickens. But still, why smash it to death without getting advice first?
And then why gloat about it on Twitter, FFS? He has destroyed himself.
To make it worse, and even weirder, in November he tweeted about doing the exact same thing, wearing his wife's kimono and going outside with a baseball bat, hoping to crush the skull of some fox (this time he didn't find one)
So he likes to wear a lady's kimono when he brutally executes wild animals??!
High time and long overdue they were stripped of their royal warrant and ordered to get out of politics or give up their charitable status.
What? That's just the RSPCA doing their job.
Maugham has quite gleefully tweeted that he smashed the fox to death with his baseball bat. Brave man. If this was some teen on a horrible estate, doing that, the lout would go straight on front of the beak, and rightly so.
Maugham didn't even call the RSPCA or a vet first, just went out there and cudgelled the poor critter to a pulp.
Yuk. Arrest him.
The RSPCA are not doing their job. They have no more powers to investigate allegations of animal cruelty than anyone else. They pretend they do but they are lying. If they are concerned they should contact the police.
And as foxes are vermin, and dangerous vermin at that, I don’t quite know what your point is. If it was trapped, technically it would be an offence to release it, believe it or not,
It looks, prima facie, like Maugham is in big trouble, and could easily face prosecution, and might be convicted
High time and long overdue they were stripped of their royal warrant and ordered to get out of politics or give up their charitable status.
What? That's just the RSPCA doing their job.
Maugham has quite gleefully tweeted that he smashed the fox to death with his baseball bat. Brave man. If this was some teen on a horrible estate, doing that, the lout would go straight in front of the beak, and rightly so.
Maugham didn't even call the RSPCA or a vet first, just went out there and cudgelled the poor critter to a pulp.
Yuk. Arrest him.
Killing foxes with a baseball bat is not specifically illegal.
Maugham seems to be out of touch with everyday reality in some ways, and to be somewhat self-serving. He does some shooting at his Windmill - rabbits and so on - so should have at least some knowledge.
His "necessary to minimise suffering" defence could evaporate due to the professional pest services available even in London.
Nor really sure how the "I have a baseball bat to discourage intruders" line will play, or the slightly pompous "if I want to keep chickens, I am going to keep chickens".
The story about Jolyon Maugham bludgeoning a fox to death, while wearing his wife's oversmall kimono, is quite something. Maybe career ending.
It comes a couple of days after A C Grayling had a public meltdown and claimed ten metre tall geckos from Mars were running the planet.
It looks like the Brexychosis is entering its final florid stage as we approach Jan 31. I am worried for Ian Dunt and that Irish diplomat lady.
Was he defending chickens? I know I should just look on Twitter but I don't think I want to.
The Fox was stuck in the chicken wire.
Difficult situation. Not sure bashing it to a pulp was the right course of action, but on the other hand I'm not sure what was.
See this,
Maugham makes a habit of donning the wifely kimono, and prowling the grounds, armed with a baseball bat, just HOPING to find a fox he can bludgeon to a pulp
High time and long overdue they were stripped of their royal warrant and ordered to get out of politics or give up their charitable status.
What? That's just the RSPCA doing their job.
Maugham has quite gleefully tweeted that he smashed the fox to death with his baseball bat. Brave man. If this was some teen on a horrible estate, doing that, the lout would go straight in front of the beak, and rightly so.
Maugham didn't even call the RSPCA or a vet first, just went out there and cudgelled the poor critter to a pulp.
Yuk. Arrest him.
Killing foxes with a baseball bat is not specifically illegal.
The lawyer on the blog I linked downthread believes it IS illegal, unless in exceptional circs, which probably don't apply here
The story about Jolyon Maugham bludgeoning a fox to death, while wearing his wife's oversmall kimono, is quite something. Maybe career ending.
It comes a couple of days after A C Grayling had a public meltdown and claimed ten metre tall geckos from Mars were running the planet.
It looks like the Brexychosis is entering its final florid stage as we approach Jan 31. I am worried for Ian Dunt and that Irish diplomat lady.
Was he defending chickens? I know I should just look on Twitter but I don't think I want to.
He claims he was. He has chickens. But still, why smash it to death without getting advice first?
And then why gloat about it on Twitter, FFS? He has destroyed himself.
To make it worse, and even weirder, in November he tweeted about doing the exact same thing, wearing his wife's kimono and going outside with a baseball bat, hoping to crush the skull of some fox (this time he didn't find one)
So he likes to wear a lady's kimono when he brutally executes wild animals??!
You absolute twat.
Perhaps he should have formed a support group for the fox and workshopped a solution with it.
The story about Jolyon Maugham bludgeoning a fox to death, while wearing his wife's oversmall kimono, is quite something. Maybe career ending.
It comes a couple of days after A C Grayling had a public meltdown and claimed ten metre tall geckos from Mars were running the planet.
It looks like the Brexychosis is entering its final florid stage as we approach Jan 31. I am worried for Ian Dunt and that Irish diplomat lady.
Was he defending chickens? I know I should just look on Twitter but I don't think I want to.
He claims he was. He has chickens. But still, why smash it to death without getting advice first?
And then why gloat about it on Twitter, FFS? He has destroyed himself.
To make it worse, and even weirder, in November he tweeted about doing the exact same thing, wearing his wife's kimono and going outside with a baseball bat, hoping to crush the skull of some fox (this time he didn't find one)
So he likes to wear a lady's kimono when he brutally executes wild animals??!
You absolute twat.
Perhaps he should have formed a support group for the fox and workshopped a solution with it.
Maugham's obvious fetish for wearing diaphonous lady nightwear while bloodily executing small mammals does throw a wild new light on his oddly trenchant support for trans rights in female toilets etc
The story about Jolyon Maugham bludgeoning a fox to death, while wearing his wife's oversmall kimono, is quite something. Maybe career ending.
It comes a couple of days after A C Grayling had a public meltdown and claimed ten metre tall geckos from Mars were running the planet.
It looks like the Brexychosis is entering its final florid stage as we approach Jan 31. I am worried for Ian Dunt and that Irish diplomat lady.
Was he defending chickens? I know I should just look on Twitter but I don't think I want to.
He claims he was. He has chickens. But still, why smash it to death without getting advice first?
And then why gloat about it on Twitter, FFS? He has destroyed himself.
To make it worse, and even weirder, in November he tweeted about doing the exact same thing, wearing his wife's kimono and going outside with a baseball bat, hoping to crush the skull of some fox (this time he didn't find one)
So he likes to wear a lady's kimono when he brutally executes wild animals??!
You absolute twat.
Perhaps he should have formed a support group for the fox and workshopped a solution with it.
Sounds like it was trapped in the wire. Why not try and cut it out?
The story about Jolyon Maugham bludgeoning a fox to death, while wearing his wife's oversmall kimono, is quite something. Maybe career ending.
It comes a couple of days after A C Grayling had a public meltdown and claimed ten metre tall geckos from Mars were running the planet.
It looks like the Brexychosis is entering its final florid stage as we approach Jan 31. I am worried for Ian Dunt and that Irish diplomat lady.
Was he defending chickens? I know I should just look on Twitter but I don't think I want to.
He claims he was. He has chickens. But still, why smash it to death without getting advice first?
And then why gloat about it on Twitter, FFS? He has destroyed himself.
To make it worse, and even weirder, in November he tweeted about doing the exact same thing, wearing his wife's kimono and going outside with a baseball bat, hoping to crush the skull of some fox (this time he didn't find one)
So he likes to wear a lady's kimono when he brutally executes wild animals??!
You absolute twat.
Perhaps he should have formed a support group for the fox and workshopped a solution with it.
Sounds like it was trapped in the wire. Why not try and cut it out?
You're kidding right. Would you do the same for a rat?
High time and long overdue they were stripped of their royal warrant and ordered to get out of politics or give up their charitable status.
What? That's just the RSPCA doing their job.
Maugham has quite gleefully tweeted that he smashed the fox to death with his baseball bat. Brave man. If this was some teen on a horrible estate, doing that, the lout would go straight on front of the beak, and rightly so.
Maugham didn't even call the RSPCA or a vet first, just went out there and cudgelled the poor critter to a pulp.
Yuk. Arrest him.
The RSPCA are not doing their job. They have no more powers to investigate allegations of animal cruelty than anyone else. They pretend they do but they are lying. If they are concerned they should contact the police.
And as foxes are vermin, and dangerous vermin at that, I don’t quite know what your point is. If it was trapped, technically it would be an offence to release it, believe it or not,
It looks, prima facie, like Maugham is in big trouble, and could easily face prosecution, and might be convicted
High time and long overdue they were stripped of their royal warrant and ordered to get out of politics or give up their charitable status.
What? That's just the RSPCA doing their job.
Maugham has quite gleefully tweeted that he smashed the fox to death with his baseball bat. Brave man. If this was some teen on a horrible estate, doing that, the lout would go straight on front of the beak, and rightly so.
Maugham didn't even call the RSPCA or a vet first, just went out there and cudgelled the poor critter to a pulp.
Yuk. Arrest him.
The RSPCA are not doing their job. They have no more powers to investigate allegations of animal cruelty than anyone else. They pretend they do but they are lying. If they are concerned they should contact the police.
And as foxes are vermin, and dangerous vermin at that, I don’t quite know what your point is. If it was trapped, technically it would be an offence to release it, believe it or not,
It looks, prima facie, like Maugham is in big trouble, and could easily face prosecution, and might be convicted
If you read the article, it actually says the opposite. But in any case, it is looking at the wrong law. The relevant law here is the Countryside and Wildlife Act 1981, not the Hunting Act.
Admittedly, the RSPCA may do as well, because in addition to being drunken virtue signalling fascists they have the intellect of a below average moron.
The blogger is also wrong in claiming the RSPCA can interview suspects or seize items as evidence. They cannot.
The story about Jolyon Maugham bludgeoning a fox to death, while wearing his wife's oversmall kimono, is quite something. Maybe career ending.
It comes a couple of days after A C Grayling had a public meltdown and claimed ten metre tall geckos from Mars were running the planet.
It looks like the Brexychosis is entering its final florid stage as we approach Jan 31. I am worried for Ian Dunt and that Irish diplomat lady.
Was he defending chickens? I know I should just look on Twitter but I don't think I want to.
He claims he was. He has chickens. But still, why smash it to death without getting advice first?
And then why gloat about it on Twitter, FFS? He has destroyed himself.
To make it worse, and even weirder, in November he tweeted about doing the exact same thing, wearing his wife's kimono and going outside with a baseball bat, hoping to crush the skull of some fox (this time he didn't find one)
So he likes to wear a lady's kimono when he brutally executes wild animals??!
You absolute twat.
Perhaps he should have formed a support group for the fox and workshopped a solution with it.
Sounds like it was trapped in the wire. Why not try and cut it out?
Maugham has admitted he was "hungover" and also that the lady's kimono he was wearing - the one he likes to wear when attempting to take a cudgel to wild animals - was "too short".
Maybe he was too unsteady to bend over and loosen the wire, and worried he might flash the neighbours if the sexy girl's kimono came loose, so a baseball bat was just easier?
High time and long overdue they were stripped of their royal warrant and ordered to get out of politics or give up their charitable status.
What? That's just the RSPCA doing their job.
Maugham has quite gleefully tweeted that he smashed the fox to death with his baseball bat. Brave man. If this was some teen on a horrible estate, doing that, the lout would go straight in front of the beak, and rightly so.
Maugham didn't even call the RSPCA or a vet first, just went out there and cudgelled the poor critter to a pulp.
Yuk. Arrest him.
Killing foxes with a baseball bat is not specifically illegal.
The lawyer on the blog I linked downthread believes it IS illegal, unless in exceptional circs, which probably don't apply here
No he doesn't. Read it. He says there are many mitigations for the action.
Comments
(I was so sure it was 'Clarke' until I couldn't make it fit)
@MattW -Ashfield: the independent there ruined a great betting opportunity.
Bless her, she had no idea - chuckle - she could be back though - and she`s like Corbyn but with a brain.
Pidcock may buck the trend. But she looks more like a Corbynite Ed Balls to me.
I think England just lacked penetration when de Kock and Philander were in play.
But helpfully, de Kock withdrew too late and that means we are into the tail.
Lost a safe Labour council seat in 2017 on a 25% swing.
Got elected to a safe Labour parliamentary constituency.
Made some stupid comments.
Lost a safe Labour parliamentary seat in 2019.
My personal tradition is that I go and view the body in order to make a tangible full stop, which I find very helpful. It is an idea I had conversations about at University wiht Russian Orthodox and Irish Catholic types, which I have adopted since.
Best of wishes, whatever your practice.
"‘I know it has been a long time coming, but we are on the path to justice.
And because people know that it is perfectly possible that Jeremy Corbyn could be our prime minister, you can be sure that absolutely everything, absolutely everything, is going to be thrown at us in the next few weeks.
People will say some of the most hurtful things about our people and our communities and our political representatives.
Please forgive them, please forgive them, for they know not what they do"
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/11/the-apocalyptic-self-righteousness-of-laura-pidcock/
Do we have any dates for this process to start yet?
ELBOW actually approximated to the real Result this time around!
2019 result GB
Con 45
Lab 33
2019 final ELBOW
Con 43
Lab 34
Compare with:
2017 result GB
Con 44
Lab 41
2017 final ELBOW
Con 43
Lab 37
2015 result GB
Con 38
Lab 31
2015 final ELBOW
Con 33
Lab 34(!)
Fabulous atmosphere, very British, with people of all ages plunging in, some very brave men in a Mankini,plenty of Women in Bikinis.
Now thawing out with Brandy.
Happy Christmas all.
Women in bikinis you say?
Not sure who I'm going to vote for with the star filly missing the engagement.
Than men I mean.
Yes - it is.
👃
Women have more natural body fat.
Back in 2005 Dave offered him the shadow Work & Pensions job* but Rifkind said he would only take the shadow Foreign Secretary job so Dave said cheerio.
*He was the incumbent remember, Michael Howard brought Rifkind back into the shadow cabinet straight after the 2005 GE.
https://twitter.com/LukewSavage/status/1210000976855404545
Their gas has got some nerve.
I've long thought that only Soviet-era programming could be responsible for my pizza choices.
And is it not just like the Germans to come up with something like that?
He was lucky he was up against Cameron and not Johnson. Vindictive bastard that he is. He wouldn`t have been offered anything at all.
Would have been focussing on the Bolsovers, Bassetlaws, and Rother Valleys round here.
The former required much bigger swings
On another matter I was reading this in the Independent that I found on the www.
Remarkable if true(as suggested)
"Almost every election since the Second World War has been characterised by two things: that the polls hardly shift during the campaign and, closely connected, that all the noise and tumult is mere background. People make their minds up years before."
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/general-election-boris-johnson-unpredictable-conservatives-majority-opposition-tactical-voting-a9238846.html
It comes a couple of days after A C Grayling had a public meltdown and claimed ten metre tall geckos from Mars were running the planet.
It looks like the Brexychosis is entering its final florid stage as we approach Jan 31. I am worried for Ian Dunt and that Irish diplomat lady.
RSPCA looks into lawyer Jolyon Maugham's claim he killed fox with baseball bat
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50919327
High time and long overdue they were stripped of their royal warrant and ordered to get out of politics or give up their charitable status.
David Beckham @ Evens?
Maugham has quite gleefully tweeted that he smashed the fox to death with his baseball bat. Brave man. If this was some teen on a horrible estate, doing that, the lout would go straight in front of the beak, and rightly so.
Maugham didn't even call the RSPCA or a vet first, just went out there and cudgelled the poor critter to a pulp.
Yuk. Arrest him.
And as foxes are vermin, and dangerous vermin at that, I don’t quite know what your point is. If it was trapped, technically it would be an offence to release it, believe it or not,
And then why gloat about it on Twitter, FFS? He has destroyed himself.
To make it worse, and even weirder, in November he tweeted about doing the exact same thing, wearing his wife's kimono and going outside with a baseball bat, hoping to crush the skull of some fox (this time he didn't find one)
So he likes to wear a lady's kimono when he brutally executes wild animals??!
It obviously won't be a foregone conclusion as both drivers will probably finish in the top 10 in every Race.
Although, LeClerc will only get better and he has youth, stamina, energy and first choice on his side.
I think LeClerc will achieve more podium finishes, therefore 4-6 is value.
It looks, prima facie, like Maugham is in big trouble, and could easily face prosecution, and might be convicted
http://barristerblogger.com/2019/12/26/should-jolyon-maugham-be-prosecuted-for-bludgeoning-a-fox-to-death/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-13411219
Maugham seems to be out of touch with everyday reality in some ways, and to be somewhat self-serving. He does some shooting at his Windmill - rabbits and so on - so should have at least some knowledge.
His "necessary to minimise suffering" defence could evaporate due to the professional pest services available even in London.
Nor really sure how the "I have a baseball bat to discourage intruders" line will play, or the slightly pompous "if I want to keep chickens, I am going to keep chickens".
Maugham makes a habit of donning the wifely kimono, and prowling the grounds, armed with a baseball bat, just HOPING to find a fox he can bludgeon to a pulp
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1210231242450448384?s=20
Even if he escapes prosecution (which will look very bad, a pleb who did this would definitely get charged) then his reputation is pretty much ruined.
What possessed him to tweet about it, gloatingly?!?!
Perhaps he should have formed a support group for the fox and workshopped a solution with it.
Admittedly, the RSPCA may do as well, because in addition to being drunken virtue signalling fascists they have the intellect of a below average moron.
The blogger is also wrong in claiming the RSPCA can interview suspects or seize items as evidence. They cannot.
Maybe he was too unsteady to bend over and loosen the wire, and worried he might flash the neighbours if the sexy girl's kimono came loose, so a baseball bat was just easier?