It is also worth flagging that this is probably better for the country than a tiny majority, as far as Brexit is concerned. The ERG could be effectively neutered.
It occurs to me that this is the first election since I think 1865 an incumbent government has lost a majority and regained it.
It also occurs to me this is the first time since 1983 that the exit poll has predicted a Tory majority. In 1987, 1992 and 2015 it predicted a hung parliament.
Exit poll says LD lose all Scottish seats including Orkney.
In 2015 it was also predicted to fall as the only seat not falling to the SNP.
Orkney would be staggering. The two Scottish Parliament constituency seats are rock solid LD, and it's been continuously Liberal for ever.
But you never know.
O & S loss is extinction level event for the SLDs.
Given it would mean they got zero Scottish MPs, then yes... it would clearly be extinction
That being said, this is one where it's probably going to be very close. O&S voted 67:33 to stay in the UK, so if the SNP has grabbed it, it will likely be by the narrowest of margins.
Corbyn cannot blame the Labour right for this. We’ve been as good as gold. Trappist monks.
You've been too damn quiet in my opinion. But yes Corbyn and his worldview own this result (assuming the exit poll is right). I hope Labour can get rid of him and his followers.
Con 100 majority and Scotland gone would be a perfect storm.
RIP Corbynism.
Thank you and goodnight Swinson.
Be careful what you wish for, the next LD leader is less likely to be incompetent.
Good! I want a sensible LD Party. The Tories will have been in power the better part of a decade and a half already and we need an opposition to hold us to account - and a sane opposition to take over when we fall.
If Corbynistas refuse to let their grip go of the Labour Party over this then this country needs a strong Lib Dem Party to challenge them on the left.
I want the Liberal party program of 1911 -
1) Social insurance for all. 2) Social justice and equality. 3) Free trade expanded though out the Empire/Commonwelath 4) Sensible spending plans balanced against taxation. 5) A commitment to build twice as many Dreadnoughts as the German Navy.
Exit poll says LD lose all Scottish seats including Orkney.
In 2015 it was also predicted to fall as the only seat not falling to the SNP.
Orkney would be staggering. The two Scottish Parliament constituency seats are rock solid LD, and it's been continuously Liberal for ever.
But you never know.
O & S loss is extinction level event for the SLDs.
Given it would mean they got zero Scottish MPs, then yes... it would clearly be extinction
That being said, this is one where it's probably going to be very close. O&S voted 67:33 to stay in the UK, so if the SNP has grabbed it, it will likely be by the narrowest of margins.
Yes, we do have a Scottish parliament, though...
We can't lose Willie Rennie as SLD leader, he's absolute comedy gold.
Con 100 majority and Scotland gone would be a perfect storm.
RIP Corbynism.
Thank you and goodnight Swinson.
Be careful what you wish for, the next LD leader is less likely to be incompetent.
Good! I want a sensible LD Party. The Tories will have been in power the better part of a decade and a half already and we need an opposition to hold us to account - and a sane opposition to take over when we fall.
If Corbynistas refuse to let their grip go of the Labour Party over this then this country needs a strong Lib Dem Party to challenge them on the left.
I want the Liberal party program of 1911 -
1) Social insurance for all. 2) Social justice and equality. 3) Free trade expanded though out the Empire/Commonwelath 4) Sensible spending plans balanced against taxation. 5) A commitment to build twice as many Dreadnoughts as the German Navy.
A continuation of the open door immigration policy?
Corbyn cannot blame the Labour right for this. We’ve been as good as gold. Trappist monks.
This is the best possible result for the country and YOUR party.
If you dump Corbyn and get a decent leader you could win, easily, next time.
It was absolutely critical for folks like me to shut the fuck up in this campaign about Corbyn. Well we did that. It was really hard. He owns this. Outright. He cannot blame the right, the Blairites. He got his chance.
It will be pretty sickening having returned to the Tory fold only 2 hours ago, to relish an 86 majority, and then find over the night that the exit poll is a complete crock of shit - and we get an HP!
It will be pretty sickening having returned to the Tory fold only 2 hours ago, to relish an 86 majority, and then find over the night that the exit poll is a complete crock of shit - and we get an HP!
I actually think some of the projected wins are unrealistic although I hope the Tories do get more in Scotland. I reckon the overall result could be right but some of the seat results just seem wild.
Con 100 majority and Scotland gone would be a perfect storm.
RIP Corbynism.
Thank you and goodnight Swinson.
Be careful what you wish for, the next LD leader is less likely to be incompetent.
Good! I want a sensible LD Party. The Tories will have been in power the better part of a decade and a half already and we need an opposition to hold us to account - and a sane opposition to take over when we fall.
If Corbynistas refuse to let their grip go of the Labour Party over this then this country needs a strong Lib Dem Party to challenge them on the left.
I want the Liberal party program of 1911 -
1) Social insurance for all. 2) Social justice and equality. 3) Free trade expanded though out the Empire/Commonwelath 4) Sensible spending plans balanced against taxation. 5) A commitment to build twice as many Dreadnoughts as the German Navy.
I think 3 & 5 are where we should go. You get political parties these days talking about being radical but those, those are radical.
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OMFG
BETTING POST
Betfair Sportsbook has SNP seats UNDER 55.5 @ 1.83
This is an incredible bet.
It also occurs to me this is the first time since 1983 that the exit poll has predicted a Tory majority. In 1987, 1992 and 2015 it predicted a hung parliament.
That being said, this is one where it's probably going to be very close. O&S voted 67:33 to stay in the UK, so if the SNP has grabbed it, it will likely be by the narrowest of margins.
https://flavible.co.uk/currentProjection
But I feel physically sick.
😟
And we were wrong.
I expect to be saying that a lot tonight.
1) Social insurance for all.
2) Social justice and equality.
3) Free trade expanded though out the Empire/Commonwelath
4) Sensible spending plans balanced against taxation.
5) A commitment to build twice as many Dreadnoughts as the German Navy.
We can't lose Willie Rennie as SLD leader, he's absolute comedy gold.
CON+3
LAB -9
This is what the exit poll is saying nationally.
As I mentioned days ago you can reasonably predict the result from movements in Wales.
But fair play to you you fought your corner for three years. Good for you.
You’ll get a rejoin vote one day.
Take the best Tory / worst Labour convention back in play.
If true, that is amazing. We all assumed that the LD voters were strongly Unionist. The SNP in Aberdeen don’t believe the exit poll.
This is my posting from last night;
Game over for the UK .
Unions aren't going to be happy.