OK - sod Brexit, on to the big issues. I frequently leave the bag in - I like a very strong cup of tea. There are two mainstream alternatives: leave to brew and return four or five minutes later (ideal, but 25% of cups of tea get forgotten) or a quick dunk and a mash with the spoon (potentially resulting in an insufficiently string cup of tea and/or a damaged spoon). The bag-left-in approach has a lot to recommend it.
I drink green tea. No milk required. Sometimes, perhaps, a very thin slice of lemon may find its way in...
I looked for previous instances where a political party was targeted with a cyberattack during an election campaign. The biggest example I found was the attacks on the Liberal Party, the Labor Party and the Nationals in Australia earlier this year. The Australian Signals Directorate (Oz GCHQ,) has blamed China. The Australian Conservative Party, which won a surprise victory under campaign manager Isaac Levido (currently running the Tory campaign in Britain) was not under attack as far as I am aware.
Oops - I totally screwed that up. Levido's side was one of the victims of the attack. He was working for the Liberal/National campaign under Scott Morrison.
Click through to the article and you'll see the important story in there is racist Conservative councillors. I did deliberately choose to post the Warsi tweet rather than just the Guardian link, though, entirely to annoy you.
And I post this just to annoy you:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17021831 "Britain is under threat from a rising tide of "militant secularisation", a cabinet minister [ie. Warsi] has warned."
Warsi has spent so long trying to claim some special treatment for religion that I switch off when I see her name attached to a story. Public life should be getting more secular, not less. Now, we should always be wary of dismissing the story because we distrust the messenger, so I am very much not dismissing Noo's story. I have nothing against Noo. But my hackles rise when I see Warsi's name.
OK - sod Brexit, on to the big issues. I frequently leave the bag in - I like a very strong cup of tea. There are two mainstream alternatives: leave to brew and return four or five minutes later (ideal, but 25% of cups of tea get forgotten) or a quick dunk and a mash with the spoon (potentially resulting in an insufficiently string cup of tea and/or a damaged spoon). The bag-left-in approach has a lot to recommend it.
I drink green tea. No milk required. Sometimes, perhaps, a very thin slice of lemon may find its way in...
Builders’ tea for me. In a large mug.
Mint tea in summer. Camomile tea occasionally if having sleep problems.
And lots of fresh mint lemonade.
I am hereby appointing myself PB’s official Non-Alcoholic Drinks Guru. At least I can stop people sprinkling chocolate over their tea ....... 😠
No doubt a Leaver will be along in a moment to airly wave his/her hands and denounce this as unimportant or some such...
Having control over our own borders, economy and laws we can finally resuscitate British Leyland instead. What Brexiteer worth his salt wouldn’t now want to be seen driving a Morris Marina?
He wasn't really good enough 3 years ago, there is absolutely no way he is after 3 years of inactivity. The NFL is a brutal, ultra-competitive league, where the average career length is 3-4 years.
Click through to the article and you'll see the important story in there is racist Conservative councillors. I did deliberately choose to post the Warsi tweet rather than just the Guardian link, though, entirely to annoy you.
It’s a bit of a weird article - clearly there are some serious and multiple racist comments attributed to some councillors but they lump in some other stuff which is not as strong - a councillor who says no more aid to Africa and let nature take its course is clearly an idiot but how is that racist or islamophobic? - and another who in the context of talking about Yasmin alibai brown being anti British who simply asks why she is here seems pretty weak. I’ve frequently said about moaning media types that they should go and live elsewhere if they are not happy here.
Considering the amount of scandal this brings wouldn’t it benefit the main parties to review social media activity of their own representatives? Employ 1 person, have a confidential reporting system, systematically review social media.
Gauke to stand as an independent in his old seat of SW Herts and backs EUref2, hopefully the new hardworking Tory candidate, Gagan Mohindra, who I know quite well trounces him. Given he is now clearly a LD in all but name hopefully he splits their vote too
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
No doubt a Leaver will be along in a moment to airly wave his/her hands and denounce this as unimportant or some such...
Having control over our own borders, economy and laws we can finally resuscitate British Leyland instead. What Brexiteer worth his salt wouldn’t now want to be seen driving a Morris Marina?
BJ has already ditched one Marina! Or did she ditch him? Funny how ditches and humps are associated with the PM!
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
It is one the great debates of our time - how much do we attribute to Nigel Farage in achieveing what decades of Tory MPs (Redwood, Cash etc) failed to do in their own party. My view is ignore Farage at your peril.
OK - sod Brexit, on to the big issues. I frequently leave the bag in - I like a very strong cup of tea. There are two mainstream alternatives: leave to brew and return four or five minutes later (ideal, but 25% of cups of tea get forgotten) or a quick dunk and a mash with the spoon (potentially resulting in an insufficiently string cup of tea and/or a damaged spoon). The bag-left-in approach has a lot to recommend it.
I drink green tea. No milk required. Sometimes, perhaps, a very thin slice of lemon may find its way in...
Builders’ tea for me. In a large mug.
Mint tea in summer. Camomile tea occasionally if having sleep problems.
And lots of fresh mint lemonade.
I am hereby appointing myself PB’s official Non-Alcoholic Drinks Guru. At least I can stop people sprinkling chocolate over their tea ....... 😠
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
That is the Oxford Union? A dozen people people sitting on benches? I always envisaged it as attended by hundreds. People talk about it like is something more than a handful of folk listening to a chat between two other people.
No doubt a Leaver will be along in a moment to airly wave his/her hands and denounce this as unimportant or some such...
Having control over our own borders, economy and laws we can finally resuscitate British Leyland instead. What Brexiteer worth his salt wouldn’t now want to be seen driving a Morris Marina?
I hope that was a spoof post on your part, because it was brilliant
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
It is one the great debates of our time - how much do we attribute to Nigel Farage in achieveing what decades of Tory MPs (Redwood, Cash etc) failed to do in their own party. My view is ignore Farage at your peril.
I’m not ignoring him, and I think he was fundamental in pushing for the referendum, but I think if it was left to him to lead the campaign it would have lost.
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
It is one the great debates of our time - how much do we attribute to Nigel Farage in achieveing what decades of Tory MPs (Redwood, Cash etc) failed to do in their own party. My view is ignore Farage at your peril.
Farage has made a tactical retreat, but his positioning is very strong because if Johnson wins a majority, he will inevitably disappoint on Brexit, and Farage will be able to say I told you so.
Yes and in light of the islamophobia dossier article earlier, it should be noted that in Labour those with issues of Antisemitism are now being picked as PPCs
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
It is one the great debates of our time - how much do we attribute to Nigel Farage in achieveing what decades of Tory MPs (Redwood, Cash etc) failed to do in their own party. My view is ignore Farage at your peril.
Farage has made a tactical retreat, but his positioning is very strong because if Johnson wins a majority, he will inevitably disappoint on Brexit, and Farage will be able to say I told you so.
If Boris wins a majority Brexit will be delivered with his Deal and FTA talks start with the EU
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
It is one the great debates of our time - how much do we attribute to Nigel Farage in achieveing what decades of Tory MPs (Redwood, Cash etc) failed to do in their own party. My view is ignore Farage at your peril.
Farage has made a tactical retreat, but his positioning is very strong because if Johnson wins a majority, he will inevitably disappoint on Brexit, and Farage will be able to say I told you so.
If Boris wins a majority Brexit will be delivered with his Deal and FTA talks start with the EU
So we'll be in a vassal state transition, and Johnson will have to make lots of concessions if he wants to agree an FTA in time to avoid extending it and going back on his promise.
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
It is one the great debates of our time - how much do we attribute to Nigel Farage in achieveing what decades of Tory MPs (Redwood, Cash etc) failed to do in their own party. My view is ignore Farage at your peril.
Farage has made a tactical retreat, but his positioning is very strong because if Johnson wins a majority, he will inevitably disappoint on Brexit, and Farage will be able to say I told you so.
If Boris wins a majority Brexit will be delivered with his Deal and FTA talks start with the EU
So we'll be in a vassal state transition, and Johnson will have to make lots of concessions if he wants to agree an FTA in time to avoid extending it and going back on his promise.
The transition period will end in December 2020 as Boris has made clear but free trade negotiations will continue after with the EU outside the single market and customs union if no FTA yet completed
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
That is the Oxford Union? A dozen people people sitting on benches? I always envisaged it as attended by hundreds. People talk about it like is something more than a handful of folk listening to a chat between two other people.
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
That is the Oxford Union? A dozen people people sitting on benches? I always envisaged it as attended by hundreds. People talk about it like is something more than a handful of folk listening to a chat between two other people.
It was packed when Nixon came, in my day.....
That is impressive seeing a US president in the flesh! Doubt I ever will.
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
That is the Oxford Union? A dozen people people sitting on benches? I always envisaged it as attended by hundreds. People talk about it like is something more than a handful of folk listening to a chat between two other people.
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
That is the Oxford Union? A dozen people people sitting on benches? I always envisaged it as attended by hundreds. People talk about it like is something more than a handful of folk listening to a chat between two other people.
It was packed when Nixon came, in my day.....
That is impressive seeing a US president in the flesh! Doubt I ever will.
He was a former president by then - I suspect we were too forgiving - "I screwed it up" got a round of applause.
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
That is the Oxford Union? A dozen people people sitting on benches? I always envisaged it as attended by hundreds. People talk about it like is something more than a handful of folk listening to a chat between two other people.
It was packed when Nixon came, in my day.....
That is impressive seeing a US president in the flesh! Doubt I ever will.
I saw the queen in the flesh once - at Newcastle Races - the route to the private box was through the (smoky) bar and the Boy's Brigade were there with plastic chain link to form a narrow corridor for her to pass. Tap on the shoulder "Excuse me, the queen would like to pass" so I stepped to one side and she walked right past - brilliant blue eyes.
Princess Margaret came to the Oxford Union. "Her Royal Highness doesn't really bother with an aperitif before dinner, Scotch and water will be fine. No need for wine, just Scotch. And perhaps one to take into the debate."
Also saw Mrs T at the Newcastle Holiday Inn where she was due to give a speech to businessmen - full make up "camera ready" - in the flesh it looks overdone and a curious sort of waddle. The day before they'd cut the power to the hotel to search for bombs.
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
That is the Oxford Union? A dozen people people sitting on benches? I always envisaged it as attended by hundreds. People talk about it like is something more than a handful of folk listening to a chat between two other people.
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
It is one the great debates of our time - how much do we attribute to Nigel Farage in achieveing what decades of Tory MPs (Redwood, Cash etc) failed to do in their own party. My view is ignore Farage at your peril.
Farage has made a tactical retreat, but his positioning is very strong because if Johnson wins a majority, he will inevitably disappoint on Brexit, and Farage will be able to say I told you so.
If Boris wins a majority Brexit will be delivered with his Deal and FTA talks start with the EU
So we'll be in a vassal state transition, and Johnson will have to make lots of concessions if he wants to agree an FTA in time to avoid extending it and going back on his promise.
The transition period will end in December 2020 as Boris has made clear but free trade negotiations will continue after with the EU outside the single market and customs union if no FTA yet completed
You think we’ll crash out of transition on WTO terms?
I think this fundamentally overstates the influence of Farage. For Brexit to be delivered by the Tory party it would have to modulate towards a consistent Brexit stance as they cannot rely on the other parties to help. The basic mathematics of the situation has driven it not Farage. If May had got a big majority through in 2017 she would have been able to get a softer Brexit through.
I can think of few things I would ever agree with Aron Banks on, but I do agree that Farage has shaped the Conservative Party in his own image. What I would disagree with Banks is that it is most definitely NOT a good thing. The Conservative is no longer the Conservative Party. It has become a party dominated by the extreme right.
Click through to the article and you'll see the important story in there is racist Conservative councillors. I did deliberately choose to post the Warsi tweet rather than just the Guardian link, though, entirely to annoy you.
It’s a bit of a weird article -
Considering the amount of scandal this brings wouldn’t it benefit the main parties to review social media activity of their own representatives? Employ 1 person, have a confidential reporting system, systematically review social media.
It's notable that the number of cases of actual Islamophobia cited by the Guardian is between one and five rather than the 25 in the headline, and one of them is a *Parish* Councillor.
The same chap anonymous twitter use who generated this 'dossier', @MatesJacob, generated another one of 115 allegations back in May 2019, of which 80-85% turned out to be repeats of previous allegations. Fair enough, as it was a collection, but without specifics the numbers mean little, and the G does not supply specifics.
Also worth a note that the big one from last week - Calvert - was relating to statements in 2002 that had been addressed by him in 2008. But in the narrative of an election that will not catch.
And that the MCB supplied a dossier of alleged cases to the EHCR in May 2019 requesting a statutory investigation, and 6 months later nothing has happened. Why not? Much of the credibility remains to be confirmed.
(Similarly I think to claims Sam Gyimah is making about Emma Dent-Coad having been on the committee that approved the Grenfell Refurb, and therefore being responsible. Doesn't stand up, but the damage is done.)
So I think think there is at least *some* media-windup/trolling going on here.
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https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1194406702822645761?s=21
No doubt a Leaver will be along in a moment to airly wave his/her hands and denounce this as unimportant or some such...
Mint tea in summer. Camomile tea occasionally if having sleep problems.
And lots of fresh mint lemonade.
I am hereby appointing myself PB’s official Non-Alcoholic Drinks Guru. At least I can stop people sprinkling chocolate over their tea ....... 😠
https://www.bbc.com/sport/american-football/50399780
He wasn't really good enough 3 years ago, there is absolutely no way he is after 3 years of inactivity. The NFL is a brutal, ultra-competitive league, where the average career length is 3-4 years.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/claudia-webbe-keith-vaz-corbyn-parachuted-kashmir-row_uk_5dcaf1dee4b0eb9121297ab2
Considering the amount of scandal this brings wouldn’t it benefit the main parties to review social media activity of their own representatives? Employ 1 person, have a confidential reporting system, systematically review social media.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/12/david-gauke-stand-independent-election/
Labour vows to outspend Tories on the NHS
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-50397847
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1194425971530706945?s=20
https://www.nytimes.com/1978/12/01/archives/welcome-for-nixon-at-oxford-is-warm-questions-friendly-though-some.html
Princess Margaret came to the Oxford Union. "Her Royal Highness doesn't really bother with an aperitif before dinner, Scotch and water will be fine. No need for wine, just Scotch. And perhaps one to take into the debate."
Also saw Mrs T at the Newcastle Holiday Inn where she was due to give a speech to businessmen - full make up "camera ready" - in the flesh it looks overdone and a curious sort of waddle. The day before they'd cut the power to the hotel to search for bombs.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/10328958/jeremy-corbyn-boris-johnson-election-deepfake-clips/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1573562402
The same chap anonymous twitter use who generated this 'dossier', @MatesJacob, generated another one of 115 allegations back in May 2019, of which 80-85% turned out to be repeats of previous allegations. Fair enough, as it was a collection, but without specifics the numbers mean little, and the G does not supply specifics.
Also worth a note that the big one from last week - Calvert - was relating to statements in 2002 that had been addressed by him in 2008. But in the narrative of an election that will not catch.
And that the MCB supplied a dossier of alleged cases to the EHCR in May 2019 requesting a statutory investigation, and 6 months later nothing has happened. Why not? Much of the credibility remains to be confirmed.
(Similarly I think to claims Sam Gyimah is making about Emma Dent-Coad having been on the committee that approved the Grenfell Refurb, and therefore being responsible. Doesn't stand up, but the damage is done.)
So I think think there is at least *some* media-windup/trolling going on here.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-islamophobia-racism-party-members-dossier-a8919581.html
https://mcb.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/201905-Complaint-to-the-EHRC-about-Islamophobia-in-the-Conservative-Party_website.pdf