'A man in New Hampshire attempted to register for the first-in-the-nation presidential primary on Friday using an interesting nickname: “Epstein Didn’t Kill Himself.”
New Hampshire law allows nicknames on the ballot, but doesn’t allow use of a nickname that “constitutes a slogan or otherwise associates the candidate with a cause or issue.”'
So, any consensus amongst LDs as to whether an informal Remain alliance is better than relying on the public to be tactical on their own? How many more LDs will 'do a BXP' and concede to Labour? Will Labour voters return the favour even if the party does not?
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
Understood. You prefer The Clown to The Cold Warrior.
Many do not want to choose between them, but outside of a few areas, that is not really viable - either, or none, still makes a choice which helps one of them.
So, any consensus amongst LDs as to whether an informal Remain alliance is better than relying on the public to be tactical on their own? How many more LDs will 'do a BXP' and concede to Labour? Will Labour voters return the favour even if the party does not?
Assuming you mean the LD candidates who are standing down in Labour marginals? Better than tactical voting because loads of voters just don't know what the situation is to vote tactically (see polls about likely election outcomes for example, people have no idea).
How many more? Not many I expect. The parties aren't very friendly and lots of LDs hate Corbyn.
Will Labour voters return the favour? No. Barely any voters will even know that the LD candidates in a handful of seats that aren't theirs stood down, so barely any will even be able to act on the information. And most people that engaged in politics have strong views so rarely swing.
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
I think the idea that Labour leave voters don't care about Brexit is similar to the idea that voters in general didn't care about the EU before 2016...
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
So, any consensus amongst LDs as to whether an informal Remain alliance is better than relying on the public to be tactical on their own? How many more LDs will 'do a BXP' and concede to Labour? Will Labour voters return the favour even if the party does not?
I think LD standing down for Lab only really works in Lab-held Remianian Con targets, which is a very short list.
Seeing that same still-frame of Boris in a lot of the posts above, I'm struck by how profoundly unattractive he is (to my eyes, obviously this is highly subjective). It got me thinking about the attractiveness or otherwise of the main-two party leaders of my lifetime.
Trying to adjust somewhat for age, here's my definitive and highly judgemental list:
Possibly attractive in the right light: William Hague Tony Blair David Cameron Michael Howard
Goofy but still got "something" John Major Gordon Brown Ed Miliband
Gurning lunatics but not totally disgusting: Jeremy Corbyn Margaret Thatcher Theresa May
Skin crawling: Iain Duncan Smith Neil Kinnock James Callaghan
Hippocrocodogomoose: Michael Foot Boris Johnson
Genuine LOL.
I could try to claim that I'm thinking about how appearances will play with the voters and put a betting angle on it, but in truth I'm just being a bitch.
Foot and Thatcher rank lowest to my eye. You seem to be harsh on Boris and Callaghan.
It's hard to separate out the person from the appearance though. So this kind of exercise is probably doomed to a double-subjectivity. I tried to add the Lib Dems in, but I figured I'm be lynched by the Brexiters for saying that Nick Clegg is a properly beautiful man, and gets his own category. Plus, it's really hard to find pictures of Vince Cable looking young. He seems to have been the same age for the past forty years.
I think the idea that Labour leave voters don't care about Brexit is similar to the idea that voters in general didn't care about the EU before 2016...
There are 4 Labour Leave voters in Chez BJO.
We dont care about BXT compared to getting the Tories out
I've said for a long time that swing is not universal and that there is a structural swing in all elections. how TBP running in some seats and not others plus the remain alliance should work in calculators is that they need to deal with the parties who are actually standing and making an estimate on how the parties who are not standing break. It's not simple but you could make some assumptions on how, say, green party voters will break when the green party are not standing.
I think the idea that Labour leave voters don't care about Brexit is similar to the idea that voters in general didn't care about the EU before 2016...
Some people who voted to Leave the EU, I have met did not know what the EU happened to be or what membership meant. I have even met people who live abroad under EU freedom of movement rules who voted to Leave because they did not like the immigrants in the UK! There are a lot of very stupid people about but I would also say that PB tends to attract the more enlightened Leavers who do understand the structures and rights associated with EU membership. I disagree with them but as I am entitled to a view, so are they.
It's hard to separate out the person from the appearance though. So this kind of exercise is probably doomed to a double-subjectivity. I tried to add the Lib Dems in, but I figured I'm be lynched by the Brexiters for saying that Nick Clegg is a properly beautiful man, and gets his own category. Plus, it's really hard to find pictures of Vince Cable looking young. He seems to have been the same age for the past forty years.
Oh, screw it, here's the Lib Dems too:
Beautiful: Nick Clegg
Possibly attractive in the right light: William Hague Ming Campbell Tony Blair Paddy Ashdown David Cameron Michael Howard
Goofy but still got "something": John Major Charles Kennedy Gordon Brown David Steel Ed Miliband Vince Cable
Gurning lunatics but not totally disgusting: Jo Swinson Jeremy Corbyn Margaret Thatcher Theresa May
Skin crawling: Tim Farron Iain Duncan Smith Neil Kinnock James Callaghan
Hippocrocodogomoose: Michael Foot Boris Johnson
Come at me, PB, this is the hill I choose to die on.
It's hard to separate out the person from the appearance though. So this kind of exercise is probably doomed to a double-subjectivity. I tried to add the Lib Dems in, but I figured I'm be lynched by the Brexiters for saying that Nick Clegg is a properly beautiful man, and gets his own category. Plus, it's really hard to find pictures of Vince Cable looking young. He seems to have been the same age for the past forty years.
Oh, screw it, here's the Lib Dems too:
Beautiful: Nick Clegg
Possibly attractive in the right light: William Hague Ming Campbell Tony Blair Paddy Ashdown David Cameron Michael Howard
Goofy but still got "something": John Major Charles Kennedy Gordon Brown David Steel Ed Miliband Vince Cable
Gurning lunatics but not totally disgusting: Jo Swinson Jeremy Corbyn Margaret Thatcher Theresa May
Skin crawling: Tim Farron Iain Duncan Smith Neil Kinnock James Callaghan
Hippocrocodogomoose: Michael Foot Boris Johnson
Come at me, PB, this is the hill I choose to die on.
Were you involved in one of Clegg's bed post scratchings?
I wonder what the response would have been had the words "freedom of movement" been used.
That would imply that you think those who want the right to live and work in EU countries don’t understand that that is free movement.
People seriously use People's Vote or Final Say rather than Second Referendum supposedly because it polls better despite them being the same thingt, it doesn't seem absurd that using different words might result in a different share.
Mrs May was more attractive than that - especially the look she had when she lambasted the police federation. She was genuinely alluring that day - as she lambasted all those policemen.
And your biggest category error - Ed Miliband. He's a 10. He could be lead singer in an arty pop band if he wasn't a politician.
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
It's hard to separate out the person from the appearance though. So this kind of exercise is probably doomed to a double-subjectivity. I tried to add the Lib Dems in, but I figured I'm be lynched by the Brexiters for saying that Nick Clegg is a properly beautiful man, and gets his own category. Plus, it's really hard to find pictures of Vince Cable looking young. He seems to have been the same age for the past forty years.
Oh, screw it, here's the Lib Dems too:
Beautiful: Nick Clegg
Possibly attractive in the right light: William Hague Ming Campbell Tony Blair Paddy Ashdown David Cameron Michael Howard
Goofy but still got "something": John Major Charles Kennedy Gordon Brown David Steel Ed Miliband Vince Cable
Gurning lunatics but not totally disgusting: Jo Swinson Jeremy Corbyn Margaret Thatcher Theresa May
Skin crawling: Tim Farron Iain Duncan Smith Neil Kinnock James Callaghan
Hippocrocodogomoose: Michael Foot Boris Johnson
Come at me, PB, this is the hill I choose to die on.
Were you involved in one of Clegg's bed post scratchings?
I think it was Sunil who described May as a PMILF.
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I think that's a valid complaint.
As do I. The election is required because the government couldn't get it's legislative programme through Parliament, and that issue happened to be Brexit. If an election happened because major NHS reform was unable to be pushed through I'm not so sure they'd frame it "The NHS Election".
I wonder what the response would have been had the words "freedom of movement" been used.
It is certainly a very leading question. I think the realistic question the country needs to be asked is also leading.
Given we are likely to need immigration of 100k-300k per year to deal with our population curve and job gaps, and that most of that immigration will come from people from poorer countries than the UK, do you prefer immigration is from 1) EU or 2) rest of the world.
I think a lot of leavers want the premise not to be true and a lot of remainers are blind to the hypocrisy of their preference for 1 whilst calling most leavers racist.
I think 1 is the right answer partly because it is easier to adapt from most EU countries to the UK than from elsewhere and partly for the benefits it brings our people to live and work in the EU.
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Interesting about Buttigieg. I have been banging on about him on here for a while now, and in particular, saying a surprise was coming in Iowa.
Hope some of you are on. Ever since Axelrod said this guy is the deal many months ago, I've been on. Very very green.
It's hard to separate out the person from the appearance though. So this kind of exercise is probably doomed to a double-subjectivity. I tried to add the Lib Dems in, but I figured I'm be lynched by the Brexiters for saying that Nick Clegg is a properly beautiful man, and gets his own category. Plus, it's really hard to find pictures of Vince Cable looking young. He seems to have been the same age for the past forty years.
Oh, screw it, here's the Lib Dems too:
Beautiful: Nick Clegg
Possibly attractive in the right light: William Hague Ming Campbell Tony Blair Paddy Ashdown David Cameron Michael Howard
Goofy but still got "something": John Major Charles Kennedy Gordon Brown David Steel Ed Miliband Vince Cable
Gurning lunatics but not totally disgusting: Jo Swinson Jeremy Corbyn Margaret Thatcher Theresa May
Skin crawling: Tim Farron Iain Duncan Smith Neil Kinnock James Callaghan
Hippocrocodogomoose: Michael Foot Boris Johnson
Come at me, PB, this is the hill I choose to die on.
Were you involved in one of Clegg's bed post scratchings?
Hopefully not one of Cameron’s pork scratchings.....
It's hard to separate out the person from the appearance though. So this kind of exercise is probably doomed to a double-subjectivity. I tried to add the Lib Dems in, but I figured I'm be lynched by the Brexiters for saying that Nick Clegg is a properly beautiful man, and gets his own category. Plus, it's really hard to find pictures of Vince Cable looking young. He seems to have been the same age for the past forty years.
Oh, screw it, here's the Lib Dems too:
Beautiful: Nick Clegg
Possibly attractive in the right light: William Hague Ming Campbell Tony Blair Paddy Ashdown David Cameron Michael Howard
Goofy but still got "something": John Major Charles Kennedy Gordon Brown David Steel Ed Miliband Vince Cable
Gurning lunatics but not totally disgusting: Jo Swinson Jeremy Corbyn Margaret Thatcher Theresa May
Skin crawling: Tim Farron Iain Duncan Smith Neil Kinnock James Callaghan
Hippocrocodogomoose: Michael Foot Boris Johnson
Come at me, PB, this is the hill I choose to die on.
Were you involved in one of Clegg's bed post scratchings?
I think it was Sunil who described May as a PMILF.
So he has that in common with Johnson, although with not perhaps quite the same meaning of the word...
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
Understood. You prefer The Clown to The Cold Warrior.
Many do not want to choose between them, but outside of a few areas, that is not really viable - either, or none, still makes a choice which helps one of them.
I am in a Labour seat with an 11,000 majority. The Lib Dems may take it - though it is unlikely.
I don’t want Corbyn anywhere near power. I feel about him - and have felt this since before he became leader - much as Ian Austin does. Corbyn, IMO, is not fit to be a Labour MP and very definitely not leader or PM. His default assumptions and instincts and judgment are, IMO, wrong and misguided. His political moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction.
I could say much the same about Johnson. I do not want the Tories in power - let alone with a large majority. They have lost any chance of getting my vote. They have been taken over by the Brexit party.
I hope both Corbyn and Johnson can lose and never be heard of again.
I had intended to vote Lib Dems in the vain hope that they are vaguely sensible and neither batshit insane nor malicious.
It's hard to separate out the person from the appearance though. So this kind of exercise is probably doomed to a double-subjectivity. I tried to add the Lib Dems in, but I figured I'm be lynched by the Brexiters for saying that Nick Clegg is a properly beautiful man, and gets his own category. Plus, it's really hard to find pictures of Vince Cable looking young. He seems to have been the same age for the past forty years.
Oh, screw it, here's the Lib Dems too:
Beautiful: Nick Clegg
Possibly attractive in the right light: William Hague Ming Campbell Tony Blair Paddy Ashdown David Cameron Michael Howard
Goofy but still got "something": John Major Charles Kennedy Gordon Brown David Steel Ed Miliband Vince Cable
Gurning lunatics but not totally disgusting: Jo Swinson Jeremy Corbyn Margaret Thatcher Theresa May
Skin crawling: Tim Farron Iain Duncan Smith Neil Kinnock James Callaghan
Hippocrocodogomoose: Michael Foot Boris Johnson
Come at me, PB, this is the hill I choose to die on.
Were you involved in one of Clegg's bed post scratchings?
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Turnout is going to be massive. Buttigieg is highly unlikely to depress it. Even if he’s selected as the candidate....
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
Understood. You prefer The Clown to The Cold Warrior.
Many do not want to choose between them, but outside of a few areas, that is not really viable - either, or none, still makes a choice which helps one of them.
I am in a Labour seat with an 11,000 majority. The Lib Dems may take it - though it is unlikely.
I don’t want Corbyn anywhere near power. I feel about him - and have felt this since before he became leader - much as Ian Austin does. Corbyn, IMO, is not fit to be a Labour MP and very definitely not leader or PM. His default assumptions and instincts and judgment are, IMO, wrong and misguided. His political moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction.
I could say much the same about Johnson. I do not want the Tories in power - let alone with a large majority. They have lost any chance of getting my vote. They have been taken over by the Brexit party.
I hope both Corbyn and Johnson can lose and never be heard of again.
I had intended to vote Lib Dems in the vain hope that they are vaguely sensible and neither batshit insane nor malicious.
That’s roughly what I’ve been saying for months. But here I don’t even have that choice to make as the Oranges have run away, endorsing the Greens who we all know are Corbyn with extra environmentalism.
Mrs May was more attractive than that - especially the look she had when she lambasted the police federation. She was genuinely alluring that day - as she lambasted all those policemen.
And your biggest category error - Ed Miliband. He's a 10. He could be lead singer in an arty pop band if he wasn't a politician.
Apart from these 2 edits - good work.
Haha, Ed Miliband nearly went down into the crazy-eyes category, on account of his crazy eyes. But he's too lovable for such a low rating so I bumped him up. I think his current position is already the fair compromise.
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Only 76% of Americans would be willing to vote for a well qualified gay President, but in turn only 63% of Americans say they would vote for a candidate over 70.
Given his likely opponents are nearly all over 70 the voters will have to choose one characteristic or other that might not be their first preference.
Mrs May was more attractive than that - especially the look she had when she lambasted the police federation. She was genuinely alluring that day - as she lambasted all those policemen.
And your biggest category error - Ed Miliband. He's a 10. He could be lead singer in an arty pop band if he wasn't a politician.
Apart from these 2 edits - good work.
Haha, Ed Miliband nearly went down into the crazy-eyes category, on account of his crazy eyes. But he's too lovable for such a low rating so I bumped him up. I think his current position is already the fair compromise.
“Genuinely alluring” is not a phrase which has ever belonged together with... anyone on that list.
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
Understood. You prefer The Clown to The Cold Warrior.
Many do not want to choose between them, but outside of a few areas, that is not really viable - either, or none, still makes a choice which helps one of them.
I am in a Labour seat with an 11,000 majority. The Lib Dems may take it - though it is unlikely.
I don’t want Corbyn anywhere near power. I feel about him - and have felt this since before he became leader - much as Ian Austin does. Corbyn, IMO, is not fit to be a Labour MP and very definitely not leader or PM. His default assumptions and instincts and judgment are, IMO, wrong and misguided. His political moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction.
I could say much the same about Johnson. I do not want the Tories in power - let alone with a large majority. They have lost any chance of getting my vote. They have been taken over by the Brexit party.
I hope both Corbyn and Johnson can lose and never be heard of again.
I had intended to vote Lib Dems in the vain hope that they are vaguely sensible and neither batshit insane nor malicious.
That’s roughly what I’ve been saying for months. But here I don’t even have that choice to make as the Oranges have run away, endorsing the Greens who we all know are Corbyn with extra environmentalism.
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Only 76% of Americans would be willing to vote for a well qualified gay President...
What percentage of the 24% of homo-averse are Republicans ?
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
Understood. You prefer The Clown to The Cold Warrior.
Many do not want to choose between them, but outside of a few areas, that is not really viable - either, or none, still makes a choice which helps one of them.
I am in a Labour seat with an 11,000 majority. The Lib Dems may take it - though it is unlikely.
I don’t want Corbyn anywhere near power. I feel about him - and have felt this since before he became leader - much as Ian Austin does. Corbyn, IMO, is not fit to be a Labour MP and very definitely not leader or PM. His default assumptions and instincts and judgment are, IMO, wrong and misguided. His political moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction.
I could say much the same about Johnson. I do not want the Tories in power - let alone with a large majority. They have lost any chance of getting my vote. They have been taken over by the Brexit party.
I hope both Corbyn and Johnson can lose and never be heard of again.
I had intended to vote Lib Dems in the vain hope that they are vaguely sensible and neither batshit insane nor malicious.
The lib dems will form no formal alliance with the Labour Party, most lib dem members are as anti corbyn as they are anti Johnson but there will always be individuals who seek to get their moment of fame by last minute about face.
I wanted to pick up on the comments you made last night about LD prospects in the longer term and specifically how a large Conservative victory might work to the LD's advantage.
This is an argument that gets trotted out every so often - if the Conservatives beat Labour badly enough, the LDs will have the opportunity to take over the role of opposition and challenge Conservative dominance.
That, even if it happened, would gift the Conservatives a decade in power.
I remember OGH and I agreeing before the 2010 GE the ideal result would be for Cameron to have a majority of 5-10 seats, a majority but not a comfortable one. A strong LD presence would have been able to harry the new Tory Government and build to a strong 2015 election.
Having seen Johnson prevaricate and obfuscate with a minority, I'm minded any kind of majority would allow him huge latitude to override Parliamentary scrutiny and govern via diktat from No.10.
The corollary of that is when (and it's not if) the Johnson Government hits its mid-term, it will be long and harsh with plenty of Conservative Council seats to crop (2021 being a good example).
I'm sure to keep himself in office Johnson will think nothing of borrowing even more to fund tax cuts to bribe his way through a GE in 2024 but today's borrowing is either tomorrow's tax rises or spending cuts and that will be a lot harder to sell.
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Only 76% of Americans would be willing to vote for a well qualified gay President, but in turn only 63% of Americans say they would vote for a candidate over 70.
Given his likely opponents are nearly all over 70 the voters will have to choose one characteristic or other that might not be their first preference.
Buttigieg represents a completely fresh start just by looking at him thanks to his youth.
His main pitch has been a new generation plus his experience as a city boss and stuff like serving military.
Will exhausted Dem primary vote turn away from the oldsters (warren/biden) and throw the dice on a fresh start?
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
Obviously you are only referring to members of the congregation rather than pastors as the latter have a record which would make Boris blush.
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
Understood. You prefer The Clown to The Cold Warrior.
Many do not want to choose between them, but outside of a few areas, that is not really viable - either, or none, still makes a choice which helps one of them.
I am in a Labour seat with an 11,000 majority. The Lib Dems may take it - though it is unlikely.
I don’t want Corbyn anywhere near power. I feel about him - and have felt this since before he became leader - much as Ian Austin does. Corbyn, IMO, is not fit to be a Labour MP and very definitely not leader or PM. His default assumptions and instincts and judgment are, IMO, wrong and misguided. His political moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction.
I could say much the same about Johnson. I do not want the Tories in power - let alone with a large majority. They have lost any chance of getting my vote. They have been taken over by the Brexit party.
I hope both Corbyn and Johnson can lose and never be heard of again.
I had intended to vote Lib Dems in the vain hope that they are vaguely sensible and neither batshit insane nor malicious.
The lib dems will form no formal alliance with the Labour Party, most lib dem members are as anti corbyn as they are anti Johnson but there will always be individuals who seek to get their moment of fame by last minute about face.
And yet several LDs on here are quite chipper about the Canterbury move being followed elsewhere. Who is right?
Mrs May was more attractive than that - especially the look she had when she lambasted the police federation. She was genuinely alluring that day - as she lambasted all those policemen.
And your biggest category error - Ed Miliband. He's a 10. He could be lead singer in an arty pop band if he wasn't a politician.
Apart from these 2 edits - good work.
Haha, Ed Miliband nearly went down into the crazy-eyes category, on account of his crazy eyes. But he's too lovable for such a low rating so I bumped him up. I think his current position is already the fair compromise.
“Genuinely alluring” is not a phrase which has ever belonged together with... anyone on that list.
Well quite. It’s like been at one of those awful teenage parties. 10cc’s “I’m not in love” has come on and you’re left with the weird dork to dance with. Or hiding in the loo with a good book before making your escape.
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Only 76% of Americans would be willing to vote for a well qualified gay President...
What percentage of the 24% of homo-averse are Republicans ?
Not quite the full answer to that but the party splits to would vote for a gay president are 61% Republican 82% Independent 83% Democrat.
Over the age 70, all very similar, 63% Republican (notable lack of awareness here!), 62% Independent, 65% Democrat
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Only 76% of Americans would be willing to vote for a well qualified gay President, but in turn only 63% of Americans say they would vote for a candidate over 70.
Given his likely opponents are nearly all over 70 the voters will have to choose one characteristic or other that might not be their first preference.
Buttigieg represents a completely fresh start just by looking at him thanks to his youth.
His main pitch has been a new generation plus his experience as a city boss and stuff like serving military.
Will exhausted Dem primary vote turn away from the oldsters (warren/biden) and throw the dice on a fresh start?
I have bet they will.
I think voters tend to choose an opposite when ejecting a leader. Trump is so weird pretty much any candidate could be an opposite, but in particular Sanders might be too similar and Warren and Buttigieg meet the opposite criteria strongly.
It's hard to separate out the person from the appearance though. So this kind of exercise is probably doomed to a double-subjectivity. I tried to add the Lib Dems in, but I figured I'm be lynched by the Brexiters for saying that Nick Clegg is a properly beautiful man, and gets his own category. Plus, it's really hard to find pictures of Vince Cable looking young. He seems to have been the same age for the past forty years.
Oh, screw it, here's the Lib Dems too:
Beautiful: Nick Clegg
Possibly attractive in the right light: William Hague Ming Campbell Tony Blair Paddy Ashdown David Cameron Michael Howard
Goofy but still got "something": John Major Charles Kennedy Gordon Brown David Steel Ed Miliband Vince Cable
Gurning lunatics but not totally disgusting: Jo Swinson Jeremy Corbyn Margaret Thatcher Theresa May
Skin crawling: Tim Farron Iain Duncan Smith Neil Kinnock James Callaghan
Hippocrocodogomoose: Michael Foot Boris Johnson
Come at me, PB, this is the hill I choose to die on.
Were you involved in one of Clegg's bed post scratchings?
I think it was Sunil who described May as a PMILF.
Corbyn Calls for Government to Activate Scheme Already Activated Three Days Ago https://t.co/NQK9Wv3BzF
I suppose he is following Boris' example, who called for a Brexit agreement very similar to that offered by May nearly a year ago (but with a few extra concessions to the EU).
Except Labour are on just 28% and 29% with Yougov and Survation today, so the Labour vote is already down to its core with pro Brexit 2017 Labour voters already having switched to the Tories or Brexit Party. Boris with Yougov today does not need to convert a single extra Labour voter, as long as he holds the current Tory vote he would still win a landslide
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Only 76% of Americans would be willing to vote for a well qualified gay President, but in turn only 63% of Americans say they would vote for a candidate over 70.
Given his likely opponents are nearly all over 70 the voters will have to choose one characteristic or other that might not be their first preference.
Buttigieg represents a completely fresh start just by looking at him thanks to his youth.
His main pitch has been a new generation plus his experience as a city boss and stuff like serving military.
Will exhausted Dem primary vote turn away from the oldsters (warren/biden) and throw the dice on a fresh start?
I have bet they will.
I think voters tend to choose an opposite when ejecting a leader. Trump is so weird pretty much any candidate could be an opposite, but in particular Sanders might be too similar and Warren and Buttigieg meet the opposite criteria strongly.
Yep. But Warren is McGovern. She will lose is my hunch.
How will Trump deal with Buttigieg? The "weird name kid"?
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Only 76% of Americans would be willing to vote for a well qualified gay President, but in turn only 63% of Americans say they would vote for a candidate over 70.
Given his likely opponents are nearly all over 70 the voters will have to choose one characteristic or other that might not be their first preference.
Buttigieg represents a completely fresh start just by looking at him thanks to his youth.
His main pitch has been a new generation plus his experience as a city boss and stuff like serving military.
Will exhausted Dem primary vote turn away from the oldsters (warren/biden) and throw the dice on a fresh start?
I have bet they will.
I think voters tend to choose an opposite when ejecting a leader. Trump is so weird pretty much any candidate could be an opposite, but in particular Sanders might be too similar and Warren and Buttigieg meet the opposite criteria strongly.
Yep. But Warren is McGovern. She will lose is my hunch.
How will Trump deal with Buttigieg? The "weird name kid"?
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
Understood. You prefer The Clown to The Cold Warrior.
Many do not want to choose between them, but outside of a few areas, that is not really viable - either, or none, still makes a choice which helps one of them.
I am in a Labour seat with an 11,000 majority. The Lib Dems may take it - though it is unlikely.
I don’t want Corbyn anywhere near power. I feel about him - and have felt this since before he became leader - much as Ian Austin does. Corbyn, IMO, is not fit to be a Labour MP and very definitely not leader or PM. His default assumptions and instincts and judgment are, IMO, wrong and misguided. His political moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction.
I could say much the same about Johnson. I do not want the Tories in power - let alone with a large majority. They have lost any chance of getting my vote. They have been taken over by the Brexit party.
I hope both Corbyn and Johnson can lose and never be heard of again.
I had intended to vote Lib Dems in the vain hope that they are vaguely sensible and neither batshit insane nor malicious.
That’s roughly what I’ve been saying for months. But here I don’t even have that choice to make as the Oranges have run away, endorsing the Greens who we all know are Corbyn with extra environmentalism.
So I do not know what do to now.
If all the remaining available choices are utterly repellent, then abstention could be considered honourable?
What a stupid poll question, even the points system Boris wants would still enable EU citizens to live and work in the UK if they have the skills we need
Mrs May was more attractive than that - especially the look she had when she lambasted the police federation. She was genuinely alluring that day - as she lambasted all those policemen.
And your biggest category error - Ed Miliband. He's a 10. He could be lead singer in an arty pop band if he wasn't a politician.
Apart from these 2 edits - good work.
Haha, Ed Miliband nearly went down into the crazy-eyes category, on account of his crazy eyes. But he's too lovable for such a low rating so I bumped him up. I think his current position is already the fair compromise.
“Genuinely alluring” is not a phrase which has ever belonged together with... anyone on that list.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All that Boris blubber could be quite attractive to a male walrus.
He was up to 15% in New Hampshire as well, within 5% of first place.
How seriously do you rate this meme that African-American Democrats won’t vote (and aren’t ready for) an openly gay man?
As seriously as I rated the meme that "Evangelicals won't vote for a proven liar and fornicator who paid for abortions for women he had extra-marital affairs with".
The problem will manifest itself in turnout rather than vote share.
Sure, but it's swings and roundabouts. A pleasant, clean, sensible, young, Christian ex-veteran who's appealing to suburbanites will do better in swing state Iowa than some of the other candidates.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Only 76% of Americans would be willing to vote for a well qualified gay President, but in turn only 63% of Americans say they would vote for a candidate over 70.
Given his likely opponents are nearly all over 70 the voters will have to choose one characteristic or other that might not be their first preference.
Buttigieg represents a completely fresh start just by looking at him thanks to his youth.
His main pitch has been a new generation plus his experience as a city boss and stuff like serving military.
Will exhausted Dem primary vote turn away from the oldsters (warren/biden) and throw the dice on a fresh start?
I have bet they will.
I think voters tend to choose an opposite when ejecting a leader. Trump is so weird pretty much any candidate could be an opposite, but in particular Sanders might be too similar and Warren and Buttigieg meet the opposite criteria strongly.
Mrs May was more attractive than that - especially the look she had when she lambasted the police federation. She was genuinely alluring that day - as she lambasted all those policemen.
And your biggest category error - Ed Miliband. He's a 10. He could be lead singer in an arty pop band if he wasn't a politician.
Apart from these 2 edits - good work.
Haha, Ed Miliband nearly went down into the crazy-eyes category, on account of his crazy eyes. But he's too lovable for such a low rating so I bumped him up. I think his current position is already the fair compromise.
“Genuinely alluring” is not a phrase which has ever belonged together with... anyone on that list.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All that Boris blubber could be quite attractive to a male walrus.
I see SLab are now trying to claim this election is not about Independence.
Interesting role reversal there.
If you are pro independence in Scotland you vote SNP, if you are pro Brexit and anti independence you vote Tory, if you are anti Brexit and anti independence you vote LD.
I'd have a serious think about voting for him in Edinburgh South, probably more so than any other remain & labour candidate. I expect unionist tacticals will get him over the line.
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
Understood. You prefer The Clown to The Cold Warrior.
Many do not want to choose between them, but outside of a few areas, that is not really viable - either, or none, still makes a choice which helps one of them.
I am in a Labour seat with an 11,000 majority. The Lib Dems may take it - though it is unlikely.
I don’t want Corbyn anywhere near power. I feel about him - and have felt this since before he became leader - much as Ian Austin does. Corbyn, IMO, is not fit to be a Labour MP and very definitely not leader or PM. His default assumptions and instincts and judgment are, IMO, wrong and misguided. His political moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction.
I could say much the same about Johnson. I do not want the Tories in power - let alone with a large majority. They have lost any chance of getting my vote. They have been taken over by the Brexit party.
I hope both Corbyn and Johnson can lose and never be heard of again.
I had intended to vote Lib Dems in the vain hope that they are vaguely sensible and neither batshit insane nor malicious.
That’s roughly what I’ve been saying for months. But here I don’t even have that choice to make as the Oranges have run away, endorsing the Greens who we all know are Corbyn with extra environmentalism.
So I do not know what do to now.
If all the remaining available choices are utterly repellent, then abstention could be considered honourable?
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
Understood. You prefer The Clown to The Cold Warrior.
Many do not want to choose between them, but outside of a few areas, that is not really viable - either, or none, still makes a choice which helps one of them.
I am in a Labour seat with an 11,000 majority. The Lib Dems may take it - though it is unlikely.
I don’t want Corbyn anywhere near power. I feel about him - and have felt this since before he became leader - much as Ian Austin does. Corbyn, IMO, is not fit to be a Labour MP and very definitely not leader or PM. His default assumptions and instincts and judgment are, IMO, wrong and misguided. His political moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction.
I could say much the same about Johnson. I do not want the Tories in power - let alone with a large majority. They have lost any chance of getting my vote. They have been taken over by the Brexit party.
I hope both Corbyn and Johnson can lose and never be heard of again.
I had intended to vote Lib Dems in the vain hope that they are vaguely sensible and neither batshit insane nor malicious.
That’s roughly what I’ve been saying for months. But here I don’t even have that choice to make as the Oranges have run away, endorsing the Greens who we all know are Corbyn with extra environmentalism.
So I do not know what do to now.
If all the remaining available choices are utterly repellent, then abstention could be considered honourable?
As a last resort, it’s an option I am considering. But it really feels like ducking responsibility.
What a stupid poll question, even the points system Boris wants would still enable EU citizens to live and work in the UK if they have the skills we need
We have a points based system of immigration already.......
Except Labour are on just 28% and 29% with Yougov and Survation today, so the Labour vote is already down to its core with pro Brexit 2017 Labour voters already having switched to the Tories or Brexit Party. Boris with Yougov today does not need to convert a single extra Labour voter, as long as he holds the current Tory vote he would still win a landslide
Bloody Survation fieldwork was from last week! I will have to adjust ELBOW for week-ending 10th Nov again!
What a stupid poll question, even the points system Boris wants would still enable EU citizens to live and work in the UK if they have the skills we need
The question no one wants to ask or answer is what about the EU citizens already here who don't "have the skills we need".
What a stupid poll question, even the points system Boris wants would still enable EU citizens to live and work in the UK if they have the skills we need
That is either stupid or deliberately disingenuous. The key word in the poll is “right”. Do you know what a legal right is? We already have a points based system for people outside the EEA but they have no “right”, as the poll puts it, to live here. And we have no rights to live in their countries. Moving here is an unnatainable privilege that your xenophobic party and leader, based on the current operation of the points based system which dissuades people from wanting to move here, wants to deprive everyone of. You know that but are simply spouting what your hive mind has told you to spout today.
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New Hampshire law allows nicknames on the ballot, but doesn’t allow use of a nickname that “constitutes a slogan or otherwise associates the candidate with a cause or issue.”'
https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/jeffrey-epstein/man-attempts-to-run-for-president-in-new-hampshire-as-epstein-didnt-kill-himself/
Extreme Remain plus Nicola Murray isn't going to butter enough voter parsnips to see the LDs make the genuine breakthrough I had hoped for.
They're going to be squeezed by LAB right until election day. I feel that the result could be very similar to 2017.
How many more? Not many I expect. The parties aren't very friendly and lots of LDs hate Corbyn.
Will Labour voters return the favour? No. Barely any voters will even know that the LD candidates in a handful of seats that aren't theirs stood down, so barely any will even be able to act on the information. And most people that engaged in politics have strong views so rarely swing.
https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1194336599842144256?s=20
LDs still intend to stand, so I'll put it back in the CON GAIN column. https://t.co/pBIU7yEY9I
Plus, it's really hard to find pictures of Vince Cable looking young. He seems to have been the same age for the past forty years.
We dont care about BXT compared to getting the Tories out
Beautiful:
Nick Clegg
Possibly attractive in the right light:
William Hague
Ming Campbell
Tony Blair
Paddy Ashdown
David Cameron
Michael Howard
Goofy but still got "something":
John Major
Charles Kennedy
Gordon Brown
David Steel
Ed Miliband
Vince Cable
Gurning lunatics but not totally disgusting:
Jo Swinson
Jeremy Corbyn
Margaret Thatcher
Theresa May
Skin crawling:
Tim Farron
Iain Duncan Smith
Neil Kinnock
James Callaghan
Hippocrocodogomoose:
Michael Foot
Boris Johnson
Come at me, PB, this is the hill I choose to die on.
This is the realignment election that 2017 was supposed to be.
https://reaction.life/dealbreaker-what-if-nigel-farage-has-a-point/
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1194347250425700353
Exclusive: Labour To Complain To Ofcom About Sky News 'Brexit Election' slogan.
https://t.co/KGETUhgQXZ
Mrs May was more attractive than that - especially the look she had when she lambasted the police federation. She was genuinely alluring that day - as she lambasted all those policemen.
And your biggest category error - Ed Miliband. He's a 10. He could be lead singer in an arty pop band if he wasn't a politician.
Apart from these 2 edits - good work.
And so here we are.
I think Buttigieg does better than Biden in Iowa and Arizona. And Wisconsin was won - by a massive margin - by an openly lesbian woman last year, so hard to conclude that gayness is going to be a big negative there. Indeed, the only states where his homosexuality is likely to be a big issue (like North Carolina), were probably out of reach to any Democratic nominee in 2020.
Given we are likely to need immigration of 100k-300k per year to deal with our population curve and job gaps, and that most of that immigration will come from people from poorer countries than the UK, do you prefer immigration is from 1) EU or 2) rest of the world.
I think a lot of leavers want the premise not to be true and a lot of remainers are blind to the hypocrisy of their preference for 1 whilst calling most leavers racist.
I think 1 is the right answer partly because it is easier to adapt from most EU countries to the UK than from elsewhere and partly for the benefits it brings our people to live and work in the EU.
Hope some of you are on. Ever since Axelrod said this guy is the deal many months ago, I've been on. Very very green.
But DYOR.
I don’t want Corbyn anywhere near power. I feel about him - and have felt this since before he became leader - much as Ian Austin does. Corbyn, IMO, is not fit to be a Labour MP and very definitely not leader or PM. His default assumptions and instincts and judgment are, IMO, wrong and misguided. His political moral compass is pointing in the wrong direction.
I could say much the same about Johnson. I do not want the Tories in power - let alone with a large majority. They have lost any chance of getting my vote. They have been taken over by the Brexit party.
I hope both Corbyn and Johnson can lose and never be heard of again.
I had intended to vote Lib Dems in the vain hope that they are vaguely sensible and neither batshit insane nor malicious.
Would he be able to fill in an expense claim without fouling it up?
Buttigieg is highly unlikely to depress it. Even if he’s selected as the candidate....
https://twitter.com/AngelicNat38/status/1194337908578275331
So I do not know what do to now.
It may also have been part of the deal to let him bow out quietly from Brecon, not forgetting he’s still personally popular there.
I agree, it’s a silly decision, but I doubt if it will change anything.
The election is only 29 days away
Given his likely opponents are nearly all over 70 the voters will have to choose one characteristic or other that might not be their first preference.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/11/12/monmouth-poll-buttigieg-biden-warren-iowa-sot-vpx-nr.cnn/video/playlists/top-news-videos/
“Fuck knows. I’m past caring. It’s like the living dead.”
Just about sums it up.
Do we blame him? No.
Has he fooled us into thinking a vote for him doesn't equal a vote to endorse Corbyn? Again, no.
This is an argument that gets trotted out every so often - if the Conservatives beat Labour badly enough, the LDs will have the opportunity to take over the role of opposition and challenge Conservative dominance.
That, even if it happened, would gift the Conservatives a decade in power.
I remember OGH and I agreeing before the 2010 GE the ideal result would be for Cameron to have a majority of 5-10 seats, a majority but not a comfortable one. A strong LD presence would have been able to harry the new Tory Government and build to a strong 2015 election.
Having seen Johnson prevaricate and obfuscate with a minority, I'm minded any kind of majority would allow him huge latitude to override Parliamentary scrutiny and govern via diktat from No.10.
The corollary of that is when (and it's not if) the Johnson Government hits its mid-term, it will be long and harsh with plenty of Conservative Council seats to crop (2021 being a good example).
I'm sure to keep himself in office Johnson will think nothing of borrowing even more to fund tax cuts to bribe his way through a GE in 2024 but today's borrowing is either tomorrow's tax rises or spending cuts and that will be a lot harder to sell.
His main pitch has been a new generation plus his experience as a city boss and stuff like serving military.
Will exhausted Dem primary vote turn away from the oldsters (warren/biden) and throw the dice on a fresh start?
I have bet they will.
Over the age 70, all very similar, 63% Republican (notable lack of awareness here!), 62% Independent, 65% Democrat
https://news.gallup.com/poll/254120/less-half-vote-socialist-president.aspx
Corbyn Calls for Government to Activate Scheme Already Activated Three Days Ago https://t.co/NQK9Wv3BzF
How will Trump deal with Buttigieg? The "weird name kid"?
Interesting role reversal there.
Primaries Andrew Yang will be in: 2
Primaries Hillary Clinton will be in: 0
Candidate considered more likely by Betfair punters to win: Hillary Clinton
(Also, Deval Patrick hasn't filed in either.)
Young matador versus demented old bull.
Which leaves Slab with the rest...and 4th place
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/points-based-system-tier-2
https://youtu.be/h8BEyPzHsVo