One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
There’s a poll out tonight showing 67% of Britons support freedom of movement across the UK and EU. Which makes me again wonder why we bothered with this pointless Brexit lark in the first place.
Also makes you wonder how inept the Remain campaign was not to win those people to vote for the EU? On the face of it they should have crushed it 2:1.
If all the remaining available choices are utterly repellent, then abstention could be considered honourable?
as a brexiteer in a seat held by a remainer tory I now have a choice of three variants of remain and no leave candidate. Spoilt ballot will get my vote.
Under those circumstances you surely want to go for the Tory? The fact that said candidate might, personally, have preferred that we never leave the EU is neither here nor there. They will endorse the Withdrawal Agreement regardless.
All of the Conservative MPs who were so implacably opposed to Brexit that they wanted to force either Norway + CU, a confirmatory referendum or both have already gone. Any candidate returned or elected for the first time under the 2019 manifesto is fully signed up to Johnson's programme.
Even if you suspect that your local Tory might get up to funny business during the negotiations on the future relationship, at least they will give Brexit the chance to get that far. If given the opportunity, the other alternatives either may not or will not do so.
There’s a poll out tonight showing 67% of Britons support freedom of movement across the UK and EU. Which makes me again wonder why we bothered with this pointless Brexit lark in the first place.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Lol You've just made everyone here feel errm... old
There’s a poll out tonight showing 67% of Britons support freedom of movement across the UK and EU. Which makes me again wonder why we bothered with this pointless Brexit lark in the first place.
Because for many of us Leave voters it has nothing to do with immigration...? You lot like to suggest most of us voted on immigration grounds and you won’t hear anything else.
If all the remaining available choices are utterly repellent, then abstention could be considered honourable?
as a brexiteer in a seat held by a remainer tory I now have a choice of three variants of remain and no leave candidate. Spoilt ballot will get my vote.
Under those circumstances you surely want to go for the Tory? The fact that said candidate might, personally, have preferred that we never leave the EU is neither here nor there. They will endorse the Withdrawal Agreement regardless.
All of the Conservative MPs who were so implacably opposed to Brexit that they wanted to force either Norway + CU, a confirmatory referendum or both have already gone. Any candidate returned or elected for the first time under the 2019 manifesto is fully signed up to Johnson's programme.
Even if you suspect that your local Tory might get up to funny business during the negotiations on the future relationship, at least they will give Brexit the chance to get that far. If given the opportunity, the other alternatives either may not or will not do so.
Buttigieg a touch short at 6.2 right now on Betfair. I've laid back a smidgen, he'll probably shorten further after Iowa anyway.
Buttigieg is spending a fortune in Iowa but beyond there he is not making much impact
Laughable.
He's on 15%, only five points behind Biden in New Hampshire, and up about seven points in the last month.
If he wins Iowa, the he's odds on to win New Hamphire.
If he's won Iowa and New Hampshire then... oh yes... he's probably the Democratic nominee.
Doesn’t the new system make that much less certain? With delegates awarded proportionately, the convention is likely to be determinative. Pete Buttigieg might be good at horse-trading. Or he might not. We don’t know yet.
I thought that.
But then I remembered the 15% threshold (albeit at the precinct level). This means we're likely to see four candidates (at most).
Take Iowa. Imagine the players are Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Sanders in that order. Well, it'll probably be 40-30-20-10 for delegate share. In New Hampshire, it'll be the same four. And the fourth placed player - unless there's a big reshuffling of the deck - will likely be forced out.
I think it's likely that come Super Tuesday there will only be three players in the game. Which three? Who knows.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Lol You've just made everyone here feel errm... old
I saw no reason why I should suffer alone.
EDIT I’m also a year out. He’d have been born in 1998. Scary.
Let’s be blunt if Labour become the biggest party is Jo Swinson really going to say no I refuse to support you for enough time to get a second EU vote .
Talk about betrayal then, given the Lib Dems sole mission is to stop Brexit will she really refuse to support them and end up having another election .
Buttigieg a touch short at 6.2 right now on Betfair. I've laid back a smidgen, he'll probably shorten further after Iowa anyway.
Buttigieg is spending a fortune in Iowa but beyond there he is not making much impact
Laughable.
He's on 15%, only five points behind Biden in New Hampshire, and up about seven points in the last month.
If he wins Iowa, the he's odds on to win New Hamphire.
If he's won Iowa and New Hampshire then... oh yes... he's probably the Democratic nominee.
Doesn’t the new system make that much less certain? With delegates awarded proportionately, the convention is likely to be determinative. Pete Buttigieg might be good at horse-trading. Or he might not. We don’t know yet.
I thought that.
But then I remembered the 15% threshold (albeit at the precinct level). This means we're likely to see four candidates (at most).
Take Iowa. Imagine the players are Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Sanders in that order. Well, it'll probably be 40-30-20-10 for delegate share. In New Hampshire, it'll be the same four. And the fourth placed player - unless there's a big reshuffling of the deck - will likely be forced out.
I think it's likely that come Super Tuesday there will only be three players in the game. Which three? Who knows.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
It goes back further than that. I was born in 1992 and you can argue the same applies.
Buttigieg a touch short at 6.2 right now on Betfair. I've laid back a smidgen, he'll probably shorten further after Iowa anyway.
Buttigieg is spending a fortune in Iowa but beyond there he is not making much impact
Laughable.
He's on 15%, only five points behind Biden in New Hampshire, and up about seven points in the last month.
If he wins Iowa, the he's odds on to win New Hamphire.
If he's won Iowa and New Hampshire then... oh yes... he's probably the Democratic nominee.
A gay presidential candidate and the Dems really will have handed the election to Trump , you’re not going to win the key swing states .
Sorry to be blunt and not politically correct but seriously there’s no chance the USA will vote for a gay President . The Dems need to get out of their bubble and put forward Biden who is the only one who can win those swing states .
Running up big totals in California and NY means zip with the Electoral College system .
Stating something with great certainty doesn't make it true.
You might have written:
"A black presidential candidate and the Dems really will have handed the election to the Republicans , you’re not going to win the key swing states ."
or
"If the Republicans pick a liar, a fornicator, an atheist, a man who's paid his mistresses to have abortions, then the evangelicals simply won't turn up. They'll be handing the election to the Democrats."
@BrexitStewart, aka Stewart Jackson, also tried to get Sevenoaks. Clearly eager to become an MP again.
I know local connection is not all there is (and people might have connection with several areas) and parachuted MPs can be good too, but it feels like if you've tried being selected in several other seats at least you should be ruled out standing for others - you've had a decent chance after all.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Lol You've just made everyone here feel errm... old
Buttigieg a touch short at 6.2 right now on Betfair. I've laid back a smidgen, he'll probably shorten further after Iowa anyway.
Buttigieg is spending a fortune in Iowa but beyond there he is not making much impact
Laughable.
He's on 15%, only five points behind Biden in New Hampshire, and up about seven points in the last month.
If he wins Iowa, the he's odds on to win New Hamphire.
If he's won Iowa and New Hampshire then... oh yes... he's probably the Democratic nominee.
Doesn’t the new system make that much less certain? With delegates awarded proportionately, the convention is likely to be determinative. Pete Buttigieg might be good at horse-trading. Or he might not. We don’t know yet.
I thought that.
But then I remembered the 15% threshold (albeit at the precinct level). This means we're likely to see four candidates (at most).
Take Iowa. Imagine the players are Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Sanders in that order. Well, it'll probably be 40-30-20-10 for delegate share. In New Hampshire, it'll be the same four. And the fourth placed player - unless there's a big reshuffling of the deck - will likely be forced out.
I think it's likely that come Super Tuesday there will only be three players in the game. Which three? Who knows.
Not Sanders.
That's when the Bernibots and the quad fall behind Warren.
Buttigieg a touch short at 6.2 right now on Betfair. I've laid back a smidgen, he'll probably shorten further after Iowa anyway.
Buttigieg is spending a fortune in Iowa but beyond there he is not making much impact
Laughable.
He's on 15%, only five points behind Biden in New Hampshire, and up about seven points in the last month.
If he wins Iowa, the he's odds on to win New Hamphire.
If he's won Iowa and New Hampshire then... oh yes... he's probably the Democratic nominee.
Doesn’t the new system make that much less certain? With delegates awarded proportionately, the convention is likely to be determinative. Pete Buttigieg might be good at horse-trading. Or he might not. We don’t know yet.
I thought that.
But then I remembered the 15% threshold (albeit at the precinct level). This means we're likely to see four candidates (at most).
Take Iowa. Imagine the players are Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Sanders in that order. Well, it'll probably be 40-30-20-10 for delegate share. In New Hampshire, it'll be the same four. And the fourth placed player - unless there's a big reshuffling of the deck - will likely be forced out.
I think it's likely that come Super Tuesday there will only be three players in the game. Which three? Who knows.
Not Sanders.
That's when the Bernibots and the quad fall behind Warren.
I think that's likely.
But it's worth remembering that if you divide the Democratic field into Centrists and Radicals, then it's half-and-half.
If Biden gets zero delegates in Iowa and New Hampshire, will he really still go on to win South Carolina?
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Good evening all.
It's unlikely that your relentless negativity about life in Britain has inspired him. He's not had to storm the beaches of Normandy, not lived through mass poverty or unemployment and technology has created opportunities for him that were unimaginable even in 1997. If annual economic growth of 2% is as bad as it gets he's a lucky, lucky man.
Except Labour are on just 28% and 29% with Yougov and Survation today, so the Labour vote is already down to its core with pro Brexit 2017 Labour voters already having switched to the Tories or Brexit Party. Boris with Yougov today does not need to convert a single extra Labour voter, as long as he holds the current Tory vote he would still win a landslide
Bloody Survation fieldwork was from last week! I will have to adjust ELBOW for week-ending 10th Nov again!
OK, so including Survation, ELBOW for week-ending 10th November:
CON 38.1% (+0.2) LAB 28.2% (+1.9) LD 16.1% (+0.1) BXP 9.1% (-1.3) SNP 3.7% (+0.1) GRN 3.4% (-0.2) PC 0.6% (-0.2) Oth 0.8% (-0.5)
Buttigieg a touch short at 6.2 right now on Betfair. I've laid back a smidgen, he'll probably shorten further after Iowa anyway.
Buttigieg is spending a fortune in Iowa but beyond there he is not making much impact
Laughable.
He's on 15%, only five points behind Biden in New Hampshire, and up about seven points in the last month.
If he wins Iowa, the he's odds on to win New Hamphire.
If he's won Iowa and New Hampshire then... oh yes... he's probably the Democratic nominee.
Doesn’t the new system make that much less certain? With delegates awarded proportionately, the convention is likely to be determinative. Pete Buttigieg might be good at horse-trading. Or he might not. We don’t know yet.
I thought that.
But then I remembered the 15% threshold (albeit at the precinct level). This means we're likely to see four candidates (at most).
Take Iowa. Imagine the players are Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Sanders in that order. Well, it'll probably be 40-30-20-10 for delegate share. In New Hampshire, it'll be the same four. And the fourth placed player - unless there's a big reshuffling of the deck - will likely be forced out.
I think it's likely that come Super Tuesday there will only be three players in the game. Which three? Who knows.
Not Sanders.
That's when the Bernibots and the quad fall behind Warren.
Yep.
Welcome to four more years of Trump.
But, I still have a decent bet on Bettigieg. Maybe a hope over head job.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
It goes back further than that. I was born in 1992 and you can argue the same applies.
Given the veneration of youth views at present we should definitely listen to you, not many younger.
Ah, I remember the days of the 2010 GE on PB. 23 years young I was, what a time.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Good evening all.
It's unlikely that your relentless negativity about life in Britain has inspired him. He's not had to storm the beaches of Normandy, not lived through mass poverty or unemployment and technology has created opportunities for him that were unimaginable even in 1997. If annual economic growth of 2% is as bad as it gets he's a lucky, lucky man.
Britain has got nowhere near 2% a year growth in the last decade and there’s no sign of it in sight either.
Buttigieg a touch short at 6.2 right now on Betfair. I've laid back a smidgen, he'll probably shorten further after Iowa anyway.
Buttigieg is spending a fortune in Iowa but beyond there he is not making much impact
Laughable.
He's on 15%, only five points behind Biden in New Hampshire, and up about seven points in the last month.
If he wins Iowa, the he's odds on to win New Hamphire.
If he's won Iowa and New Hampshire then... oh yes... he's probably the Democratic nominee.
Doesn’t the new system make that much less certain? With delegates awarded proportionately, the convention is likely to be determinative. Pete Buttigieg might be good at horse-trading. Or he might not. We don’t know yet.
I thought that.
But then I remembered the 15% threshold (albeit at the precinct level). This means we're likely to see four candidates (at most).
Take Iowa. Imagine the players are Warren, Buttigieg, Biden, Sanders in that order. Well, it'll probably be 40-30-20-10 for delegate share. In New Hampshire, it'll be the same four. And the fourth placed player - unless there's a big reshuffling of the deck - will likely be forced out.
I think it's likely that come Super Tuesday there will only be three players in the game. Which three? Who knows.
"Buttigieg is spending a fortune in Iowa"
and he has the money.
He recently overtook Biden in terms of number of individual donations. That's astonishing.
What a stupid poll question, even the points system Boris wants would still enable EU citizens to live and work in the UK if they have the skills we need
We have a points based system of immigration already.......
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Lol You've just made everyone here feel errm... old
There’s a poll out tonight showing 67% of Britons support freedom of movement across the UK and EU. Which makes me again wonder why we bothered with this pointless Brexit lark in the first place.
Because for many of us it had sweet FA to do with immigration.
Lets say we leave with Johnson's deal. How is anyone going to keep the majority of the country happy when the reasons for leave are diverse and sometimes different groups of leavers have completely opposite objectives?
When the leave coalition breaks down, as it surely will, we will be vulnerable to Corbynism, probably a post Corbyn version, but it will be radical and dangerous.
As a general observation, if the electorate at large really cared about the welfare and rights of minorities then Labour would already have sunk under the anti-Semitism scandal.
Stating something with great certainty doesn't make it true.
You might have written:
"A black presidential candidate and the Dems really will have handed the election to the Republicans , you’re not going to win the key swing states ."
or
"If the Republicans pick a liar, a fornicator, an atheist, a man who's paid his mistresses to have abortions, then the evangelicals simply won't turn up. They'll be handing the election to the Democrats."
I think you have a point with Obama, with the proviso that the Democrats were very enthusiatic for his election, but would Trump have beaten anyone other than Clinton?
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Lol You've just made everyone here feel errm... old
I can remember the day I first felt old - 26th August 2012. Working in the early hours of that Sunday morning on a data migration project, one of the team spotted a report on the BBC news site that Neil Armstrong had died.
The graduate trainee sitting next to me asked: "Who's Neil Armstrong?"
Dreadful. A series of erms and uhs and uncertain sentences.
Is he well?
He's not articulate - has he ever been? A speech or written column is a different thing altogether.
It’s like having Frankie Howard as Prime Minister. At least Frankie Howerd’s ejaculations were all fully scripted.
Best not run that comparison past your team member, I don't think it'll land. I suggest getting a crib sheet of modern pop culture references to stay hip, like politicians do.
It's unlikely that your relentless negativity about life in Britain has inspired him. He's not had to storm the beaches of Normandy, not lived through mass poverty or unemployment and technology has created opportunities for him that were unimaginable even in 1997. If annual economic growth of 2% is as bad as it gets he's a lucky, lucky man.
++
I genuinely believe that there has never been a better time to be alive. If people think 2019 is a bit shit they should read some history books.
As a general observation, if the electorate at large really cared about the welfare and rights of minorities then Labour would already have sunk under the anti-Semitism scandal.
They don't.
Oh look. First reply is about Labour. My my, I didn't expect that.
There’s a poll out tonight showing 67% of Britons support freedom of movement across the UK and EU. Which makes me again wonder why we bothered with this pointless Brexit lark in the first place.
Because for many of us it had sweet FA to do with immigration.
Lets say we leave with Johnson's deal. How is anyone going to keep the majority of the country happy when the reasons for leave are diverse and sometimes different groups of leavers have completely opposite objectives?
When the leave coalition breaks down, as it surely will, we will be vulnerable to Corbynism, probably a post Corbyn version, but it will be radical and dangerous.
The country is very divided and uncertain and likely to be for some time - it'll get worse before it gets better.
I look forward to seeing the wall to wall coverage in the media and the BBC to have this as their main headline for days ! And in the real world the BBC will have got their orders from no 10 to ignore the whole thing .
Dreadful. A series of erms and uhs and uncertain sentences.
Is he well?
He's not articulate - has he ever been? A speech or written column is a different thing altogether.
It’s like having Frankie Howard as Prime Minister. At least Frankie Howerd’s ejaculations were all fully scripted.
Best not run that comparison past your team member, I don't think it'll land. I suggest getting a crib sheet of modern pop culture references to stay hip, like politicians do.
Grrrr. Don’t you think I’m feeling old enough today?
He is still 3rd in the latest NH poll there behind Biden and Warren
Serious question:
Would you rather be third and five points behind the leader, or second and fifteen points adrift?
Second as you are the main alternative
Well, fortunately this is easy to prove with statistics. We can look at 100 election contests across the US and the UK and see from which you are more likely to win 12 weeks from the election.
Before I run the numbers, would you like to venture a guess what they'll say?
It's unlikely that your relentless negativity about life in Britain has inspired him. He's not had to storm the beaches of Normandy, not lived through mass poverty or unemployment and technology has created opportunities for him that were unimaginable even in 1997. If annual economic growth of 2% is as bad as it gets he's a lucky, lucky man.
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I genuinely believe that there has never been a better time to be alive. If people think 2019 is a bit shit they should read some history books.
It's a good time to be alive generally, to be sure, and a lot of us could stand to be a great deal less glum about a great many things, but there are elements in the UK specifically where things are not as good as they were, and relentlessly negative atmospheres do not appear out of the aether, they feed on something real.
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
If the Lib Dems go into any sort of informal alliance with Labour I am going to have to take the Meeks option - abstain in person. NFW am I going to vote Lib Dem if there is even the slightest chance they will prop up Corbyn.
They had my vote until this crap. Back to Boris for me.
The LibDems are running candidates. If the PPCin Canterbury doesn't want the gig another will be appointed. They still have until midday Thursday to get 10 signatures on a nomination form and get it submitted.
There is no stand down for Labour
Are you not concerned at how many voters will make the same calculation as the PPC in Canterbury, even if the LDs do stand everywhere?
Dreadful. A series of erms and uhs and uncertain sentences.
Is he well?
He's not articulate - has he ever been? A speech or written column is a different thing altogether.
It’s like having Frankie Howard as Prime Minister. At least Frankie Howerd’s ejaculations were all fully scripted.
Best not run that comparison past your team member, I don't think it'll land. I suggest getting a crib sheet of modern pop culture references to stay hip, like politicians do.
Grrrr. Don’t you think I’m feeling old enough today?
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Lol You've just made everyone here feel errm... old
I can remember the day I first felt old - 26th August 2012. Working in the early hours of that Sunday morning on a data migration project, one of the team spotted a report on the BBC news site that Neil Armstrong had died.
The graduate trainee sitting next to me asked: "Who's Neil Armstrong?"
Does the Daily Express readership have a lot of people who have vision problems . They always have the headlines so big you could see them from the Hubble telescope .
Click through to the article and you'll see the important story in there is racist Conservative councillors. I did deliberately choose to post the Warsi tweet rather than just the Guardian link, though, entirely to annoy you.
And in the real world the BBC will have got their orders from no 10 to ignore the whole thing .
Another good parody of conspiracy theorists, you're getting very good at this.
Being serious, it won't get the attention it probably deserves, but even when these things get attention they deserve they don't appear to have the effect they deserve even when they are as bad as they appear.
Dreadful. A series of erms and uhs and uncertain sentences.
Is he well?
He's not articulate - has he ever been? A speech or written column is a different thing altogether.
It’s like having Frankie Howard as Prime Minister. At least Frankie Howerd’s ejaculations were all fully scripted.
Best not run that comparison past your team member, I don't think it'll land. I suggest getting a crib sheet of modern pop culture references to stay hip, like politicians do.
Grrrr. Don’t you think I’m feeling old enough today?
Birthday?
Specifically that of an office junior, who’s 21 today.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
This isn't just the UK, though, is it? By western standards, the UK's done ok during his lifetime. It's the west as a whole. He has the misfortune to be born in a period when globalisation is raising billions in the former third world out of poverty at the expense of anaemic growth in most of the west (that part without significant mineral wealth, at least) and the good fortune to be alive in one of the richest countries in the world in a time of unprecedented plenty.
Dreadful. A series of erms and uhs and uncertain sentences.
Is he well?
He's not articulate - has he ever been? A speech or written column is a different thing altogether.
It’s like having Frankie Howard as Prime Minister. At least Frankie Howerd’s ejaculations were all fully scripted.
Best not run that comparison past your team member, I don't think it'll land. I suggest getting a crib sheet of modern pop culture references to stay hip, like politicians do.
Grrrr. Don’t you think I’m feeling old enough today?
Birthday?
Specifically that of an office junior, who’s 21 today.
As long as you're younger than your boss I think you're supposed to be ok. I don't pass that test.
There’s a poll out tonight showing 67% of Britons support freedom of movement across the UK and EU. Which makes me again wonder why we bothered with this pointless Brexit lark in the first place.
Because for many of us it had sweet FA to do with immigration.
Lets say we leave with Johnson's deal. How is anyone going to keep the majority of the country happy when the reasons for leave are diverse and sometimes different groups of leavers have completely opposite objectives?
When the leave coalition breaks down, as it surely will, we will be vulnerable to Corbynism, probably a post Corbyn version, but it will be radical and dangerous.
Johnson cannot deliver on the promises he has made. At some point relatively soon his lies will catch up with him. When they do things will get very unpleasant. For him, the Tories and, most importantly, for the country. It’s just a matter of when.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
This isn't just the UK, though, is it? By western standards, the UK's done ok during his lifetime. It's the west as a whole. He has the misfortune to be born in a period when globalisation is raising billions in the former third world out of poverty at the expense of anaemic growth in most of the west (that part without significant mineral wealth, at least) and the good fortune to be alive in one of the richest countries in the world in a time of unprecedented plenty.
PB’s affluent reactionaries are getting all Four Yorkshiremen. But Britain is now declining relative to Europe and the USA.
Click through to the article and you'll see the important story in there is racist Conservative councillors. I did deliberately choose to post the Warsi tweet rather than just the Guardian link, though, entirely to annoy you.
I agree, it should be investigated and those who have had racist outbursts should be purged.
Party of the accused, and the race offended is irrelevant. Councillor, MP, shadow cabinet or member should all be held to the same standards.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Lol You've just made everyone here feel errm... old
I can remember the day I first felt old - 26th August 2012. Working in the early hours of that Sunday morning on a data migration project, one of the team spotted a report on the BBC news site that Neil Armstrong had died.
The graduate trainee sitting next to me asked: "Who's Neil Armstrong?"
To be fair, jazz is rather an acquired taste.
Lol - if there's a jazz Neil Armstrong he's not listed in Wikipedia.
At least for the Neil Armstrong we were able to point the poorly educated graduate to Wiki.
Does the Daily Express readership have a lot of people who have vision problems . They always have the headlines so big you could see them from the Hubble telescope .
It's so you can see the headline from across the forecourt even in an Arctic blizzard. Strangely the Arctic blizzards never seem to arrive, but one day they'll get a forecast right.
It's unlikely that your relentless negativity about life in Britain has inspired him. He's not had to storm the beaches of Normandy, not lived through mass poverty or unemployment and technology has created opportunities for him that were unimaginable even in 1997. If annual economic growth of 2% is as bad as it gets he's a lucky, lucky man.
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I genuinely believe that there has never been a better time to be alive. If people think 2019 is a bit shit they should read some history books.
It's a good time to be alive generally, to be sure, and a lot of us could stand to be a great deal less glum about a great many things, but there are elements in the UK specifically where things are not as good as they were, and relentlessly negative atmospheres do not appear out of the aether, they feed on something real.
Sure, but I'd take the aggregated negatives of today over any other point in the past.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
This isn't just the UK, though, is it? By western standards, the UK's done ok during his lifetime. It's the west as a whole. He has the misfortune to be born in a period when globalisation is raising billions in the former third world out of poverty at the expense of anaemic growth in most of the west (that part without significant mineral wealth, at least) and the good fortune to be alive in one of the richest countries in the world in a time of unprecedented plenty.
PB’s affluent reactionaries are getting all Four Yorkshiremen. But Britain is now declining relative to Europe and the USA.
Is this true in median wage terms? I have read that wages in the US have not increased meaningfully in 40 years. Explains Trump to some extent.
It's unlikely that your relentless negativity about life in Britain has inspired him. He's not had to storm the beaches of Normandy, not lived through mass poverty or unemployment and technology has created opportunities for him that were unimaginable even in 1997. If annual economic growth of 2% is as bad as it gets he's a lucky, lucky man.
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I genuinely believe that there has never been a better time to be alive. If people think 2019 is a bit shit they should read some history books.
It's a good time to be alive generally, to be sure, and a lot of us could stand to be a great deal less glum about a great many things, but there are elements in the UK specifically where things are not as good as they were, and relentlessly negative atmospheres do not appear out of the aether, they feed on something real.
Sure, but I'd take the aggregated negatives of today over any other point in the past.
Yes, but the comparison people will naturally make is not with 1000 years ago, or 100, or 50, or today but in Mogadishu, it will be with how they recall it feeling here in the last 5-10 years, and while some things are better, the perception has been of low growth, belt tightening (even though not really as much as people think) and so on, with some actual negatives to give such an impression legs.
So it is the aggregated negatives of today vs aggregated positives of yesterday.
There’s a poll out tonight showing 67% of Britons support freedom of movement across the UK and EU. Which makes me again wonder why we bothered with this pointless Brexit lark in the first place.
One of the few enjoyable aspects of our shrivelled post-Brexit world will be watching as Mail, Express and Telegraph readers discovering the end of freedom of movement is a two way street.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Lol You've just made everyone here feel errm... old
I saw no reason why I should suffer alone.
EDIT I’m also a year out. He’d have been born in 1998. Scary.
Twenty-five years ago last month I embarked on my journeys around London's Tube and rail network as a student.
Back then I only ventured out as far as the Zone 4 boundary because that was my season ticket's validity
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
It goes back further than that. I was born in 1992 and you can argue the same applies.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Lol You've just made everyone here feel errm... old
I can remember the day I first felt old - 26th August 2012. Working in the early hours of that Sunday morning on a data migration project, one of the team spotted a report on the BBC news site that Neil Armstrong had died.
The graduate trainee sitting next to me asked: "Who's Neil Armstrong?"
I realised that I was old when the Prime Minister was younger than me. Thanks DC!
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
This isn't just the UK, though, is it? By western standards, the UK's done ok during his lifetime. It's the west as a whole. He has the misfortune to be born in a period when globalisation is raising billions in the former third world out of poverty at the expense of anaemic growth in most of the west (that part without significant mineral wealth, at least) and the good fortune to be alive in one of the richest countries in the world in a time of unprecedented plenty.
PB’s affluent reactionaries are getting all Four Yorkshiremen. But Britain is now declining relative to Europe and the USA.
Dreadful. A series of erms and uhs and uncertain sentences.
Is he well?
He's not articulate - has he ever been? A speech or written column is a different thing altogether.
It’s like having Frankie Howard as Prime Minister. At least Frankie Howerd’s ejaculations were all fully scripted.
Best not run that comparison past your team member, I don't think it'll land. I suggest getting a crib sheet of modern pop culture references to stay hip, like politicians do.
Grrrr. Don’t you think I’m feeling old enough today?
Birthday?
Specifically that of an office junior, who’s 21 today.
As long as you're younger than your boss I think you're supposed to be ok. I don't pass that test.
What about when your boss wouldn't pass the 'half your age plus nine' test?
There’s a poll out tonight showing 67% of Britons support freedom of movement across the UK and EU. Which makes me again wonder why we bothered with this pointless Brexit lark in the first place.
Because for many of us it had sweet FA to do with immigration.
Lets say we leave with Johnson's deal. How is anyone going to keep the majority of the country happy when the reasons for leave are diverse and sometimes different groups of leavers have completely opposite objectives?
When the leave coalition breaks down, as it surely will, we will be vulnerable to Corbynism, probably a post Corbyn version, but it will be radical and dangerous.
Johnson cannot deliver on the promises he has made. At some point relatively soon his lies will catch up with him. When they do things will get very unpleasant. For him, the Tories and, most importantly, for the country. It’s just a matter of when.
Indeed. Those who are cheering on a Tory majority to stop Corbyn are making a long term error imo. The best way to stop Corbynism is for him to be nominally in charge of a shit situation now, but constrained by the SNP and LD.
A Tory majority has a far greater chance of leading to eventual real Corbynism, particularly as the age and home ownership demographics will be further against the Tories in 5 years time.
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
This isn't just the UK, though, is it? By western standards, the UK's done ok during his lifetime. It's the west as a whole. He has the misfortune to be born in a period when globalisation is raising billions in the former third world out of poverty at the expense of anaemic growth in most of the west (that part without significant mineral wealth, at least) and the good fortune to be alive in one of the richest countries in the world in a time of unprecedented plenty.
PB’s affluent reactionaries are getting all Four Yorkshiremen. But Britain is now declining relative to Europe and the USA.
Is this true in median wage terms? I have read that wages in the US have not increased meaningfully in 40 years. Explains Trump to some extent.
It's unlikely that your relentless negativity about life in Britain has inspired him. He's not had to storm the beaches of Normandy, not lived through mass poverty or unemployment and technology has created opportunities for him that were unimaginable even in 1997. If annual economic growth of 2% is as bad as it gets he's a lucky, lucky man.
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I genuinely believe that there has never been a better time to be alive. If people think 2019 is a bit shit they should read some history books.
It's a good time to be alive generally, to be sure, and a lot of us could stand to be a great deal less glum about a great many things, but there are elements in the UK specifically where things are not as good as they were, and relentlessly negative atmospheres do not appear out of the aether, they feed on something real.
Sure, but I'd take the aggregated negatives of today over any other point in the past.
Watch this. To be honest, Remain should run this as Public Information Film. The main info is about 5 mins in
Dreadful. A series of erms and uhs and uncertain sentences.
Is he well?
He's not articulate - has he ever been? A speech or written column is a different thing altogether.
It’s like having Frankie Howard as Prime Minister. At least Frankie Howerd’s ejaculations were all fully scripted.
Best not run that comparison past your team member, I don't think it'll land. I suggest getting a crib sheet of modern pop culture references to stay hip, like politicians do.
Grrrr. Don’t you think I’m feeling old enough today?
Birthday?
Specifically that of an office junior, who’s 21 today.
As long as you're younger than your boss I think you're supposed to be ok. I don't pass that test.
What about when your boss wouldn't pass the 'half your age plus nine' test?
Very old, or someone is an overachieving little queue jumper!
One of my junior team members turned 21 today. I reflected on his historical experience. He was born in 1997. He would have no memory of September 11. He would have been in his last year of primary school when the credit crunch hit.
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
This isn't just the UK, though, is it? By western standards, the UK's done ok during his lifetime. It's the west as a whole. He has the misfortune to be born in a period when globalisation is raising billions in the former third world out of poverty at the expense of anaemic growth in most of the west (that part without significant mineral wealth, at least) and the good fortune to be alive in one of the richest countries in the world in a time of unprecedented plenty.
PB’s affluent reactionaries are getting all Four Yorkshiremen. But Britain is now declining relative to Europe and the USA.
I look forward to seeing the wall to wall coverage in the media and the BBC to have this as their main headline for days ! And in the real world the BBC will have got their orders from no 10 to ignore the whole thing .
the bbc get their orders from the sinister jewish cabal that run the world - did you not get the memo?
Yes, but the comparison people will naturally make is not with 1000 years ago, or 100, or 50, or today but in Mogadishu, it will be with how they recall it feeling here in the last 5-10 years, and while some things are better, the perception has been of low growth, belt tightening (even though not really as much as people think) and so on, with some actual negatives to give such an impression legs.
So it is the aggregated negatives of today vs aggregated positives of yesterday.
Sure but that's the mistake we all make of looking at the here and now, rather than considering things over a decent period of time. We see the fluctuations of life, but not the long term trends, which are almost all to the good.
Click through to the article and you'll see the important story in there is racist Conservative councillors. I did deliberately choose to post the Warsi tweet rather than just the Guardian link, though, entirely to annoy you.
I agree, it should be investigated and those who have had racist outbursts should be purged.
Party of the accused, and the race offended is irrelevant. Councillor, MP, shadow cabinet or member should all be held to the same standards.
If specific parties have specific problems, I'd recommend specific measures be taken.
Click through to the article and you'll see the important story in there is racist Conservative councillors. I did deliberately choose to post the Warsi tweet rather than just the Guardian link, though, entirely to annoy you.
And I post this just to annoy you:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17021831 "Britain is under threat from a rising tide of "militant secularisation", a cabinet minister [ie. Warsi] has warned."
There’s a poll out tonight showing 67% of Britons support freedom of movement across the UK and EU. Which makes me again wonder why we bothered with this pointless Brexit lark in the first place.
Because for many of us Leave voters it has nothing to do with immigration...? You lot like to suggest most of us voted on immigration grounds and you won’t hear anything else.
It's unlikely that your relentless negativity about life in Britain has inspired him. He's not had to storm the beaches of Normandy, not lived through mass poverty or unemployment and technology has created opportunities for him that were unimaginable even in 1997. If annual economic growth of 2% is as bad as it gets he's a lucky, lucky man.
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I genuinely believe that there has never been a better time to be alive. If people think 2019 is a bit shit they should read some history books.
It's a good time to be alive generally, to be sure, and a lot of us could stand to be a great deal less glum about a great many things, but there are elements in the UK specifically where things are not as good as they were, and relentlessly negative atmospheres do not appear out of the aether, they feed on something real.
Sure, but I'd take the aggregated negatives of today over any other point in the past.
Yes, but the comparison people will naturally make is not with 1000 years ago, or 100, or 50, or today but in Mogadishu, it will be with how they recall it feeling here in the last 5-10 years, and while some things are better, the perception has been of low growth, belt tightening (even though not really as much as people think) and so on, with some actual negatives to give such an impression legs.
So it is the aggregated negatives of today vs aggregated positives of yesterday.
You are right that is the instinctive human reaction and perfectly natural. But it is wrong, both in fairness to the 99% of humans who have lived worse lives than us and equally importantly to ourselves. We would be in a better place, more at ease with the world and people around us, if we understood how lucky we are.
Had some feedback from friends on tonight’s ‘Boris, the shuffle round the office’. Consensus: tacky as hell, but Boris’s oven chips to serve the same purpose as Trump’s Wendy burgers.
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https://youtu.be/NUnV-486qTk
He would have no memory of any time of anything other than at best anaemic economic growth. The idea of a long term growth rate of 2% would sound ridiculous. His Britain has been one of permanent stagnation.
He will have the opportunity to vote in a second general election next month. I can’t imagine he’s seen much to inspire him.
Would you rather be third and five points behind the leader, or second and fifteen points adrift?
Dreadful. A series of erms and uhs and uncertain sentences.
Is he well?
and he has the money.
EDIT I’m also a year out. He’d have been born in 1998. Scary.
You might have written:
"A black presidential candidate and the Dems really will have handed the election to the Republicans , you’re not going to win the key swing states ."
or
"If the Republicans pick a liar, a fornicator, an atheist, a man who's paid his mistresses to have abortions, then the evangelicals simply won't turn up. They'll be handing the election to the Democrats."
https://twitter.com/SayeedaWarsi/status/1194367239727828994
Tories 366
Labour 203
LDs 24
https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/fcgi-bin/usercode.py?CON=37&LAB=29&LIB=17&Brexit=9&Green=3&UKIP=1&TVCON=&TVLAB=&TVLIB=&TVBrexit=&TVGreen=&TVUKIP=&SCOTCON=&SCOTLAB=&SCOTLIB=&SCOTBrexit=&SCOTGreen=&SCOTUKIP=&SCOTNAT=&display=AllChanged&regorseat=(none)&boundary=2017base
But it's worth remembering that if you divide the Democratic field into Centrists and Radicals, then it's half-and-half.
If Biden gets zero delegates in Iowa and New Hampshire, will he really still go on to win South Carolina?
It's unlikely that your relentless negativity about life in Britain has inspired him. He's not had to storm the beaches of Normandy, not lived through mass poverty or unemployment and technology has created opportunities for him that were unimaginable even in 1997. If annual economic growth of 2% is as bad as it gets he's a lucky, lucky man.
Progress!
And thanks for the update!
Welcome to four more years of Trump.
But, I still have a decent bet on Bettigieg. Maybe a hope over head job.
Ah, I remember the days of the 2010 GE on PB. 23 years young I was, what a time.
When the leave coalition breaks down, as it surely will, we will be vulnerable to Corbynism, probably a post Corbyn version, but it will be radical and dangerous.
They don't.
The graduate trainee sitting next to me asked: "Who's Neil Armstrong?"
I genuinely believe that there has never been a better time to be alive. If people think 2019 is a bit shit they should read some history books.
Before I run the numbers, would you like to venture a guess what they'll say?
https://twitter.com/CatharineHoey/status/1194332450618564608?s=20
I did deliberately choose to post the Warsi tweet rather than just the Guardian link, though, entirely to annoy you.
Being serious, it won't get the attention it probably deserves, but even when these things get attention they deserve they don't appear to have the effect they deserve even when they are as bad as they appear.
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1194381871326650368?s=20
Party of the accused, and the race offended is irrelevant. Councillor, MP, shadow cabinet or member should all be held to the same standards.
At least for the Neil Armstrong we were able to point the poorly educated graduate to Wiki.
Strangely the Arctic blizzards never seem to arrive, but one day they'll get a forecast right.
So it is the aggregated negatives of today vs aggregated positives of yesterday.
Back then I only ventured out as far as the Zone 4 boundary because that was my season ticket's validity
https://twitter.com/oxfordunion/status/1194304012734087175?s=21
A Tory majority has a far greater chance of leading to eventual real Corbynism, particularly as the age and home ownership demographics will be further against the Tories in 5 years time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCm9Ng0bbEQ
https://twitter.com/chrisgiles_/status/1193832832206098432?s=21
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17021831
"Britain is under threat from a rising tide of "militant secularisation", a cabinet minister [ie. Warsi] has warned."