Hello from Spain. Was keeping up with things on Twitter from poolside. Kids now back in so BBC Parliament on the laptop.
Have tried to explain to my 11yr old son what's going on. He finds it very funny but very baffling. Especially when you try and explain why the MPs who wouldn't vote for an election yesterday to be held on the 12th may vote today for an election to be held on the 12th or 11th...
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
Didn’t the civil service yesterday say it’d take six months to get everything in order? But hey, why do things properly when you are seeking to achieve the biggest gerrymander in modern history.
Point me to where the "civil service" officially said that please (as opposed to some ludicrous press report based on unnamed sources).
Votes at 16 is a long-standing policy of several parties - just because it doesn't advantage the Tories doesn't make it a gerrymander.
I'm not sure. The business motion would have been defeated if the Creasy amendment had not been passed. I think this is about MPs wanting some control over the process; let's see what, if anything, they do with it. Perfectly conceivable they just want some insurance against Boris pulling a fast one again.
The original government motion was pretty outrageous, wasn't it? A government bill on which amendments are not allowed.
I thought it a bill on which only government amendments were allowed ?
Hello from Spain. Was keeping up with things on Twitter from poolside. Kids now back in so BBC Parliament on the laptop.
Have tried to explain to my 11yr old son what's going on. He finds it very funny but very baffling. Especially when you try and explain why the MPs who wouldn't vote for an election yesterday to be held on the 12th may vote today for an election to be held on the 12th or 11th...
I was in Barcelona last week - where are you?
El Campello near Alicante - father-in-law lives nearby so we're here every year at various times
I'm not sure. The business motion would have been defeated if the Creasy amendment had not been passed. I think this is about MPs wanting some control over the process; let's see what, if anything, they do with it. Perfectly conceivable they just want some insurance against Boris pulling a fast one again.
The original government motion was pretty outrageous, wasn't it? A government bill on which amendments are not allowed.
I thought it a bill on which only government amendments were allowed ?
Yes, I was simplifying slightly. I can't see why the government would want to amend its own bill, but, yes, you are right. My point still stands, though.
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
No chance, they know the public is against letting kids vote and they know there would be on election if they insist upon it.
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
Didn’t the civil service yesterday say it’d take six months to get everything in order? But hey, why do things properly when you are seeking to achieve the biggest gerrymander in modern history.
Point me to where the "civil service" officially said that please (as opposed to some ludicrous press report based on unnamed sources).
Votes at 16 is a long-standing policy of several parties - just because it doesn't advantage the Tories doesn't make it a gerrymander.
If top journalists can quote sources, so can I. As for your second point, perhaps if they win an election on a manifesto for this change they can go ahead with it?
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
I'm not sure. The business motion would have been defeated if the Creasy amendment had not been passed. I think this is about MPs wanting some control over the process; let's see what, if anything, they do with it. Perfectly conceivable they just want some insurance against Boris pulling a fast one again.
The original government motion was pretty outrageous, wasn't it? A government bill on which amendments are not allowed.
I thought it a bill on which only government amendments were allowed ?
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
Didn’t the civil service yesterday say it’d take six months to get everything in order? But hey, why do things properly when you are seeking to achieve the biggest gerrymander in modern history.
Point me to where the "civil service" officially said that please (as opposed to some ludicrous press report based on unnamed sources).
Votes at 16 is a long-standing policy of several parties - just because it doesn't advantage the Tories doesn't make it a gerrymander.
If its a policy why don't they put it in their manifesto and if they win they can implement that policy.
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
This means Halesowen is the tipping point seat at number 326?
Not really because the list is just which seats have most closely matched the national swing over the last 3 elections. The half-way point doesn't mean anything in this case.
Surely Labour can’t substantively split on this vote? That would be idiotic. If it’s a dead cert thanks to the other parties then backbenchers have to vote with the leadership don’t they? Why open an attack line?
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
Didn’t the civil service yesterday say it’d take six months to get everything in order? But hey, why do things properly when you are seeking to achieve the biggest gerrymander in modern history.
Point me to where the "civil service" officially said that please (as opposed to some ludicrous press report based on unnamed sources).
Votes at 16 is a long-standing policy of several parties - just because it doesn't advantage the Tories doesn't make it a gerrymander.
If too journalists can quote sources, so can I. As for your second point, perhaps if they win an election on a manifesto for this change they can go ahead with it?
If there's a Commons majority for a something (and actually I doubt there is on this) then enough MPs have been elected who take the position to do it. That's the same on any issue.
Your point is silly in any event - the logical conclusion is only a majority government can make ANY proposal in Commons, and then only if it was in the manifesto. Yet lots of measures that pass Commons weren't in any manifesto.
Hello from Spain. Was keeping up with things on Twitter from poolside. Kids now back in so BBC Parliament on the laptop.
Have tried to explain to my 11yr old son what's going on. He finds it very funny but very baffling. Especially when you try and explain why the MPs who wouldn't vote for an election yesterday to be held on the 12th may vote today for an election to be held on the 12th or 11th...
I was in Barcelona last week - where are you?
El Campello near Alicante - father-in-law lives nearby so we're here every year at various times
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
No chance, they know the public is against letting kids vote and they know there would be on election if they insist upon it.
Why stop at citizens of Bulgaria? Why not citizens of Russia or China?
The PM wants an election on terms that are different to those that happen by default.
Why on earth should the opposition accept his choice of election terms rather than parliaments? There is nothing wrong with the Creasy amendment, if it wrecks the election that would solely be because the PM refuses to negotiate and compromise. Without the votes in our sovereign body, he needs to negotiate and compromise, that is how the system works, we are not yet a dictatorship.
The 'default' terms are an election in May 2022. So, yes, I suppose the PM does want terms different from default.
But we're proposing government paralysis for the next two and a half years? No budgets? Limping from EU extension to EU extension laid down by Hilary Benn once a quarter?
Must admit, the lack of income tax does appeal, but I don't think it'll help with the smooth running of the state.
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
It’s been that way for some time
As a black plastic spectacle wearer of expensive thin high index lenses I've mentally pleaded with him to take them back to Specsavers for ages. Can't be doing his eyesight any good.
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
We should not be seeking to make such a major constitutional change at this point in time.
There are those who want a debate - which is fine - I believe they are wrong. 18 is a perfectly legitimate age to become an adult. And voting is a right that should only come with the advent of adulthood.
Other than the special case of Irish citizens, why should the UK offer GE voting rights to EU nationals - when that is a right that is not afforded in any other EU nation?
A national debate on such issues - fine. Trying to rush it through now is just wrong. The timing does not allow for a seemly extension of the franchise to new groups even it were desirable.
Serious commentators do not believe that there is adequate time for this sort of extension to take place in a fair way.
Correct, though, question, can't some Commonwealth nationals vote in a GE (and Malta and Cyprus are both Commonwealth, as well as EU)?
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
No chance, they know the public is against letting kids vote and they know there would be on election if they insist upon it.
Why stop at citizens of Bulgaria? Why not citizens of Russia or China?
Surely Labour can’t substantively split on this vote? That would be idiotic. If it’s a dead cert thanks to the other parties then backbenchers have to vote with the leadership don’t they? Why open an attack line?
Because the backbenches think the leader is a wazzock but are so frit that they won't do anything about it
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
I'm more worried about his accent
Why his accent? Sounds the same to me! What have i missed?
I think Bill Cash is an arsehole. Shame he does not retire. He would not be missed...
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
No chance, they know the public is against letting kids vote and they know there would be on election if they insist upon it.
Why stop at citizens of Bulgaria? Why not citizens of Russia or China?
Let's face it, they should never have let coloureds vote.
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
It’s been that way for some time
As a black plastic spectacle wearer of expensive thin high index lenses I've mentally pleaded with him to take them back to Specsavers for ages. Can't be doing his eyesight any good.
Oh yeah. A bit 'Mad Eye Moody', now you mention it.
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
No chance, they know the public is against letting kids vote and they know there would be on election if they insist upon it.
Why stop at citizens of Bulgaria? Why not citizens of Russia or China?
Let's face it, they should never have let coloureds vote.
Or play football, according to Bulgarian public opinion.
So yesterday Labour voted against a motion to dissolve Parliament and have an election on 12th December but today they are voting for a bill to, err, dissolve Parliament and have a 12th December election.
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
Didn’t the civil service yesterday say it’d take six months to get everything in order? But hey, why do things properly when you are seeking to achieve the biggest gerrymander in modern history.
Point me to where the "civil service" officially said that please (as opposed to some ludicrous press report based on unnamed sources).
Votes at 16 is a long-standing policy of several parties - just because it doesn't advantage the Tories doesn't make it a gerrymander.
If too journalists can quote sources, so can I. As for your second point, perhaps if they win an election on a manifesto for this change they can go ahead with it?
I believe it was in the both the last Labour and Lib Dem manifestos (likewise the SNP ?), so they're quite entitled to argue for it - though I think only Labour are shaping to die in a ditch over it right now.
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
It’s been that way for some time
As a black plastic spectacle wearer of expensive thin high index lenses I've mentally pleaded with him to take them back to Specsavers for ages. Can't be doing his eyesight any good.
Aren't glasses supposed to be like that? My current glasses have both lenses the same, as an average of the prescription for both eyes, but the previous ones had different lenses. Has there been a change of mind by opticians?
Corbyn closes by hoping that the amendments that he knows nothing about are carried.
Corbyn is a duplicitous bastard, no different to many MP's but he has it off to a fine art.
I think the PM is worse. Some politicians are duplicitous and seem to have a hide so thick, they have no embarrasement. When you hear about the antics of some MPs, one wonders how they dare to turn up in the chamber. Some of them have no shame...
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
No chance, they know the public is against letting kids vote and they know there would be on election if they insist upon it.
Why stop at citizens of Bulgaria? Why not citizens of Russia or China?
Let's face it, they should never have let coloureds vote.
I can imagine yourself driving a minibus full of toddlers to a polling station in order to help the remain cause. Any gerrymandering will do.
So yesterday Labour voted against a motion to dissolve Parliament and have an election on 12th December but today they are voting for a bill to, err, dissolve Parliament and have a 12th December election.
So yesterday Labour voted against a motion to dissolve Parliament and have an election on 12th December but today they are voting for a bill to, err, dissolve Parliament and have a 12th December election.
Am I missing something?
Well, the 2/3 motion under FTPA doesn't specify a date for one thing. As the precise date is apparently a big bone of contention between the Tory party and their collaborators, that might be a relevant point.
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
The absence of Swinson was interesting. Are enough washing their hair to let the Gvt win?
Edit - nope. Here we got with the votes at 16 and EU amendments.
Both of those are wrecking amendments as that isn’t feasible before the date listed in the bill.
Why aren't they feasible?
EU electors are already on the electoral register and, while 16-17 year olds would need to hurry up to register, there's no reason the election couldn't go ahead despite many not having done so.
They may not be desirable for Johnson... and may be enough for him to vote against his own election plan. But they are certainly feasible in practical terms.
No chance, they know the public is against letting kids vote and they know there would be on election if they insist upon it.
Why stop at citizens of Bulgaria? Why not citizens of Russia or China?
Let's face it, they should never have let coloureds vote.
I can imagine yourself driving a minibus full of toddlers to a polling station in order to help the remain cause. Any gerrymandering will do.
I can imagine yourself driving a minibus mowing down Remain voters outside a polling station, and reversing over them - several times - as they scream in helpless agony.
But perhaps we shouldn't let our imaginations run away with us.
So yesterday Labour voted against a motion to dissolve Parliament and have an election on 12th December but today they are voting for a bill to, err, dissolve Parliament and have a 12th December election.
Am I missing something?
Explaining this to my 11 year old son earlier had him roaring with laughter. "That's so stupid"
The PM wants an election on terms that are different to those that happen by default.
Why on earth should the opposition accept his choice of election terms rather than parliaments? There is nothing wrong with the Creasy amendment, if it wrecks the election that would solely be because the PM refuses to negotiate and compromise. Without the votes in our sovereign body, he needs to negotiate and compromise, that is how the system works, we are not yet a dictatorship.
The 'default' terms are an election in May 2022. So, yes, I suppose the PM does want terms different from default.
But we're proposing government paralysis for the next two and a half years? No budgets? Limping from EU extension to EU extension laid down by Hilary Benn once a quarter?
Must admit, the lack of income tax does appeal, but I don't think it'll help with the smooth running of the state.
Just proposing the radical suggestion that the PM stops believing (despite all the evidence of the last year to the contrary) that the PM gets to decide everything and instead accepts the reality of parliamentary arithmetic and tries to do things via negotiation and compromise, whether that is calling an election, delivering Brexit or managing our taxation.
Looks like the GE is disappearing over the horizon.
The opposition parties will need to decide how to proceed with Brexit; the ball is completely in their court for either revoke, R2 or ND.
Perhaps the first priority is scrutinising the government's legislation for a general election properly. After all, this must be the government's priority, as it's chosen to bring this forward rather than concluding the WAIB.
However, there are some thorny issues here, and it may take some time. But that's what parliament's here for, after all.
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
I'm more worried about his accent
Why his accent? Sounds the same to me! What have i missed?
I think Bill Cash is an arsehole. Shame he does not retire. He would not be missed...
He'll just end up in the Lords, still talking endlessly about nowt.
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
It’s been that way for some time
As a black plastic spectacle wearer of expensive thin high index lenses I've mentally pleaded with him to take them back to Specsavers for ages. Can't be doing his eyesight any good.
Aren't glasses supposed to be like that? My current glasses have both lenses the same, as an average of the prescription for both eyes, but the previous ones had different lenses. Has there been a change of mind by opticians?
Different strength lenses for differing prescriptions in each eye? Sure - I have that. Lenses though should be lined up so that your eye points through the focus centre of the lens. Corbyn's bent frame means one eye isn't able to focus properly as not looking through the correct part of the lens
So yesterday Labour voted against a motion to dissolve Parliament and have an election on 12th December but today they are voting for a bill to, err, dissolve Parliament and have a 12th December election.
Am I missing something?
Explaining this to my 11 year old son earlier had him roaring with laughter. "That's so stupid"
Just out of interest has anyone else noticed the lense in the glasses of JC's right hand eye or if you are watching on tv the lense on the left. It is radically different to the other lense. Hope he is ok!
It’s been that way for some time
As a black plastic spectacle wearer of expensive thin high index lenses I've mentally pleaded with him to take them back to Specsavers for ages. Can't be doing his eyesight any good.
Aren't glasses supposed to be like that? My current glasses have both lenses the same, as an average of the prescription for both eyes, but the previous ones had different lenses. Has there been a change of mind by opticians?
Jezza wears glasses for reading, not usually for distance. If you look at his right optic, the horizontal lines are visible. This is a temporary prism used to treat double vision. It is possible that this has now been replaced by a prescribed prism, hence the asymmetry in his lenses.
A prism alters the position of the image, hence the asymmetry of the eyes in the picture. The frame looks straight to me.
The Tories should accept the amendments. Let’s do it! Vas and Veuc, all-in, an election for every citizen!
Lol, crazy talk. Literally no one wants that.
Incorrect. I do for one. I reckon there are thousands more with me.
I think you meant “I don’t want that”.
Thousands says it all! So you think a Romanian living in the UK for a few years should get to vote both in both a UK General election and a Romanian election? Essentially any foreigner living in the UK wouldn't need to take up citizenship and could have a say in how 2 countries were run.
Those supporting it clearly have ulterior motives and amazing how they want it rushed through when they wanted to see Brexit drawn out forever.
The idea that EU citizens should be given the right to vote in our national election for the first time when Parliament has already approved in principle a deal to allow us to leave the EU is just so off the wall that it must surely be getting put forward as a bet.
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https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationprojections/articles/being18in2018/2018-09-13
Votes at 16 is a long-standing policy of several parties - just because it doesn't advantage the Tories doesn't make it a gerrymander.
The move would require money resolution (there is a cost to extending franchise) so is likely to be deemed 'out of scope'
So it looks like Dec election very much on
Labour divisions on full display
Jez appears to be up for it, though. Bring it on, as Wendy Alexander once said.
"I don't want an election as no deal is still on the table" says a random Labour backbencher
*Giggles*
The whole political situation has reached the stage of farcical comedy and it was you who brought up the subject of her washing her hair.
Pot. Kettle.
Your point is silly in any event - the logical conclusion is only a majority government can make ANY proposal in Commons, and then only if it was in the manifesto. Yet lots of measures that pass Commons weren't in any manifesto.
So, yes, I suppose the PM does want terms different from default.
But we're proposing government paralysis for the next two and a half years? No budgets? Limping from EU extension to EU extension laid down by Hilary Benn once a quarter?
Must admit, the lack of income tax does appeal, but I don't think it'll help with the smooth running of the state.
Edit - Sorry that was me just now! Hadn’t even noticed it as it’s just everyday language.
I think Bill Cash is an arsehole. Shame he does not retire. He would not be missed...
Ex Tories voting for it were Bebb, Clarke, Greening, Grieve, P Hammond, Sandbach
Boles, Burt, Gauke, Letwin, Rudd and Rory Stewart abstained
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1189193349464387584?s=20
Am I missing something?
It took a quite a length of time for the implications of Corbyn backing amendments on voting rights to filter through to the price.
Dec 19 went from 1.15 out to 1.4 but verrrry slowly.
The opposition parties will need to decide how to proceed with Brexit; the ball is completely in their court for either revoke, R2 or ND.
But perhaps we shouldn't let our imaginations run away with us.
Which I'm not even trying to.
I think you meant “I don’t want that”.
https://twitter.com/KateEMcCann/status/1189189746330783746
However, there are some thorny issues here, and it may take some time. But that's what parliament's here for, after all.
What to the current (soon to be diluted) electorate think?
But the fact remains that both votes at 16 and votes for EU citizens are a moral and consitutional abomination.
Jezza wears glasses for reading, not usually for distance. If you look at his right optic, the horizontal lines are visible. This is a temporary prism used to treat double vision. It is possible that this has now been replaced by a prescribed prism, hence the asymmetry in his lenses.
A prism alters the position of the image, hence the asymmetry of the eyes in the picture. The frame looks straight to me.
Frit. Frit. Frit.
Those supporting it clearly have ulterior motives and amazing how they want it rushed through when they wanted to see Brexit drawn out forever.