Clause 30 of the EU (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill. What happens if the Government doesn’t propose an extension? Parliament would have no say and we would exit the transition period on the 31 Dec 2020 even if a trade agreement hadn’t been reached by then with the EU; ie no deal. pic.twitter.com/mbCAsrX0eB
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A martyr election might suit him .
One things for sure the DUP are going to vote for any amendment that causes the government problems .
The DUP are in big trouble if this deal goes through .
make any changes if they have a majority of MP’s? Hmmm. Sounds like an exotic mechanism.
Has the Tory Party always been this myopic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYrY_945co0
Why is it Johnsons date?
T May - she got the extension to 31/10
EU - They extended to 31/10
Johnson said get it done by the date that is in the legislation, you could justifiably take his stance to mean "I will bust a gut to comply with the current law and get Brexit over the line by 31/10."
In reality that was the only responsible action, as a further extension was not a certainty. (And still isn't if the Dicks keep Dicking around.)
The last straw I think was the Barclay admission at the HOL committee re customs . It’s really something when the Brexit Secretary doesn’t know what he’s negotiated.
The DUP must wreck this deal before any election , if this deal goes through before that then they’re going to be in big trouble against the UUP.
I can see why Leo Varadkar loves this deal , it’s almost a United Ireland without having to pick up the tab !
Moreover he defied expectations to deliver a deal and mostly unite his party, regardless of the merits of that deal. Hes staked so much on this deal happening I just dont think he is soft pedalling things so he can be a martyr.
I think the silly timetable is an attempt to make even a short extension look like more of a parliament forced betrayal. If he said he wanted 7 days and they extended it to 14 that's bad enough, but if he says we can do it in 3 and they extend 14 days it's much worse.
Are the UUP still a more moderate Unionist party than the DUP?
It all got confused for me when Paisley found he could be best buddies with McGuiness.
That is why the EU and the GFA are so powerful. They allow both sides to live with the fiction that they have both won and the other side has lost/given up.
Vote for CU and maybe Boris pulls the bill maybe he doesnt. If he doesnt it wont pass anyway as ERG will flip and DUP and others still vote to down. And if it still looks like passing VONC. DUP are the heroes of remain, temporarily, and dont get a CU from backing it.
Right now they're getting De Facto confidence and supply from ex Labour MPs, the Lib Dems and the DUP all of who dislike them but find the idea of Corbyn in power even worse !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYrY_945co0
First polls close at midnight UK time in Newfoundland, Quebec/Ontario at 2.30 am UK
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If they’re seen to have helped wreck the deal they can say they did what they had to . They can’t be seen to help facilitate this deal in any way .
I’m not saying the deal won’t still go through . It might still , I think there’s a majority for it at the moment .
Remember that they held their noses and worked with Sinn Fein for years. Do you think that they could not manage to find a way to tolerate Corbyn?
I seem to remember the demise of the UUP was another of those rapid extinctions of a dominant political party.
Add to Labour in Scotland as an example of how quickly change can come.
Supporters who think it can't happen here need to wake up.
On topic, the opposition would always find some other reason to delay. Against a minority Govt they refuse to VONC, "we don't have confidence the government will do xyz"is a pretty weak one.
Not out loud anyway.
On Canada I'd assume Trudeau will cling on in post. Be pretty embarrassing to only get 1 term.
Liberal defences:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T-Oj-Yx7fftuz0WOwS0c7ZOR3aBJeI4HGp7-G_Nr85Y/edit#gid=0
Conservative targets:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gvUclj6Tz6TRkVFtfBsGcsfCuHJN6awGpwIjfFPg1Yk/edit#gid=0
NDP defences:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B-i3PZE7gNVdo5cgtFGx-OIs0I5-u5JKq8okqTGXDDE/edit#gid=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykJtEiOT9SI
If you had to choose, Corbyn might be the winner.
Hiding behind walls is the way of the past.
SNP was showing some leg to Boris on an election today (yesterday) and Jezza is on record as saying he'll agree to an election if Boris sends the surrender letter (which has happened) so it looks like by this time tomorrow we could be well on our way to an election for 5th December?
This is going to be a real nail-biter. Polls put the parties neck-and-neck.
If that aveune is closed then the PLP have no other avenues to stop Brexit other than winning a general election and replacing the government?
https://enr.elections.ca/ElectoralDistricts.aspx?lang=e
EEA + CU (And it should be EEA - I would suggest the UK joins EFTA to give more power to that organisation); or
EEA + FTA (very comprehensive)
Further, that any FTA between the UK and EU could actually be written very quickly in terms of physical goods (I know people say it would take a decade or more to negotiate, but that's only because those jobs for the boys won't create themselves).
The FTA needs to cover all physical goods, and have no tariffs applied on either side (non-physical stuff, like services, could be negotiated later) but broadly to me, that the only way to get a seamless border in NI.
Is there any other way?
Last time it was 65% to 10%. Currently running at 51% to 35%.
Of their own seats they are probably already in big trouble in pro remain South Belfast, and might need a strong turnout to hold Belfast North (vs SF) and Belfast East (from the Alliance). The social conservative part of their base will have just seen abortion and gay marriage made legal in NI, so the last thing they need is to dissilusion the "No Surrender" wing. Hence the rally round the fleg.