I have no position on Northern Ireland's place in the UK/Ireland. I've never been there and I have precisely zero fucks to give about whether it stays or goes. But. Every time I see DUP folk speak I can't help but to root a little for Sinn Fein. I mean, I know there are good people in other unionist parties. Hell, there might even be some humans in the DUP itself. But gods what a dreadful sack of anuses the DUP are.
I mean most politicians are particularly ugly, strange looking people...very few exceptions..Zak Goldsmith, aside...but fuck me the DUP are an odd looking lot....
Oh and like you--I have no views on Northern Ireland--it already is one of the most heavily subsidised parts of the world per capita perhaps, and populated by the odd bigot or two, and you really wouldn't want to go there on holiday, or unless you had to (ie your plane got hijacked and diverted there)- the fact that Hyfud lives there hardly endears one more....
I don't like Rory particularly, or Barry McGuigan or the accent, the weather is worst than here...I don't think it proffers any culinary delights....it hasn't got any particularly innovative music or literary scene aside from sectarian ditties....in fact anything remotely likeable appears to be associated with south of the border rather than the 5 miserable counties....
I don't live in Northern Ireland, I live in Essex and am just on holiday there but despite your extremely rude dismissal of the entire province there are some excellent restaurants, great castles and historic houses and spectacular scenery and natural wonders, including Giant's Causeway which I am visiting tomorrow.
Plus, say what you like about the DUP but they do have a backbone
Yep, it’s a fantastic place. Everyone in GB should visit. I was last there in April. Carry on enjoying it.
Like it very much. Seriously thought about moving there but chance probably gone now. Particularly liked the area around Portrush, which is more or less where HYUFD is now. (Shouldn't be able to hear IDS's screams from there!)
Being told that if they don’t vote for the deal, whatever it is, they’ll be stripped of the Tory whip and expelled from the party, which means they won’t be able to run as Tory candidates in the GE that will be fast on the heels of their vote.
It might work.
It might work if Boris has got a Deal that avoids the backstop, if the Deal still includes the backstop there will be an eruption within the Tory Party and DUP of Vesuvius proportions by Saturday
I have no position on Northern Ireland's place in the UK/Ireland. I've never been there and I have precisely zero fucks to give about whether it stays or goes. But. Every time I see DUP folk speak I can't help but to root a little for Sinn Fein. I mean, I know there are good people in other unionist parties. Hell, there might even be some humans in the DUP itself. But gods what a dreadful sack of anuses the DUP are.
I mean most politicians are particularly ugly, strange looking people...very few exceptions..Zak Goldsmith, aside...but fuck me the DUP are an odd looking lot....
Oh and like you--I have no views on Northern Ireland--it already is one of the most heavily subsidised parts of the world per capita perhaps, and populated by the odd bigot or two, and you really wouldn't want to go there on holiday, or unless you had to (ie your plane got hijacked and diverted there)- the fact that Hyfud lives there hardly endears one more....
I don't like Rory particularly, or Barry McGuigan or the accent, the weather is worst than here...I don't think it proffers any culinary delights....it hasn't got any particularly innovative music or literary scene aside from sectarian ditties....in fact anything remotely likeable appears to be associated with south of the border rather than the 5 miserable counties....
I don't live in Northern Ireland, I live in Essex and am just on holiday there but despite your extremely rude dismissal of the entire province there are some excellent restaurants, great castles and historic houses and spectacular scenery and natural wonders, including Giant's Causeway which I am visiting tomorrow.
Plus, say what you like about the DUP but they do have a backbone
Yep, it’s a fantastic place. Everyone in GB should visit. I was last there in April. Carry on enjoying it.
Like it very much. Seriously thought about moving there but chance probably gone now. Particularly liked the area around Portrush, which is more or less where HYUFD is now. (Shouldn't be able to hear IDS's screams from there!)
As was previously discussed on here, Northern Ireland shares, with Southern Ireland and western Scotland, the remarkable meteorological record of being the most sunless region on earth, along with northern central Siberia and the Aleutian Islands. True fact.
You need some pretty fucking amazing castles to get over THAT.
If Antoinette Sandbach has indeed been deselected she might decide to go out in a Blaze of Glory. I wonder too about Amber Rudd if there is no way back.
Perhaps that 'influential Conservative MP' would like to consider what would happen if IDS and Owen Paterson had the whip removed and defected to the Brexit Party and half the Tory core vote and membership followed them?
Just looking in.
You've shifted your focus from a British nuclear attack on Madrid, apparently. Thank heaven for small mercies ....
I'm relieved because I'm in Madrid for a 4 day city break from Thursday. I'd not be happy to die at the sharp end of our nuclear deterrent.
On holiday in Madrid? What are you, some kind of Europhile? (spit)
Please take a leaf out of HYUFD's book, and holiday in ESSEX. But to be on the safe side, avoid any places with a record of being colonised by Foreigners - for example, Danes, Anglo-Saxons, Romans, and - as I say, to be on the safe side - Celts.
Yes. People like him and Fintan O’Toole and Tony Connelly of RTE are suddenly finding they’ve got a vastly wider audience, outwith Eire. Their views are sought by French, German, Italian media, the London Guardian commissions their articles, the BBC and CNN want to get them on screen.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Would be fun if, after the spartans engineered the downfall of one PM, half of them end up getting deselected by Boris and then he rams through May's deal.
Perhaps that 'influential Conservative MP' would like to consider what would happen if IDS and Owen Paterson had the whip removed and defected to the Brexit Party and half the Tory core vote and membership followed them?
Just looking in.
You've shifted your focus from a British nuclear attack on Madrid, apparently. Thank heaven for small mercies ....
I'm relieved because I'm in Madrid for a 4 day city break from Thursday. I'd not be happy to die at the sharp end of our nuclear deterrent.
On holiday in Madrid? What are you, some kind of Europhile? (spit)
Please take a leaf out of HYUFD's book, and holiday in ESSEX. But to be on the safe side, avoid any places with a record of being colonised by Foreigners - for example, Danes, Anglo-Saxons, Romans, and - as I say, to be on the safe side - Celts.
This year I have travelled to Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Scotland, Portugal, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
If I only visited places which always voted Tory I would not even visit the ward I live in as it has 3 LD councillors!
Yes. People like him and Fintan O’Toole and Tony Connelly of RTE are suddenly finding they’ve got a vastly wider audience, outwith Eire. Their views are sought by French, German, Italian media, the London Guardian commissions their articles, the BBC and CNN want to get them on screen.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Worth remembering that there are LOTS of people who have a vested interest in Brexit continuing as a clusterfuck. They’re not necessarily Remain or Leave, they just depend on Brexit to be an unhealed wound.
Amongst this crowd are unexpectedly influential Irish journalists, all Lib Dems, several notable Tweeters, a smattering of legal experts (hello David Allen Green), Ms Gina Miller, a cabal of bloggers, Ireland in Europe, loads of Scot Nats, probably Jolyon Maugham QC, others.
To be fair to Tom Connelly and Lisa O'Carroll they've been a good source of news on Brexit rather than the god awful clickbait/opinion found elsewhere.
Perhaps that 'influential Conservative MP' would like to consider what would happen if IDS and Owen Paterson had the whip removed and defected to the Brexit Party and half the Tory core vote and membership followed them?
Just looking in.
You've shifted your focus from a British nuclear attack on Madrid, apparently. Thank heaven for small mercies ....
I'm relieved because I'm in Madrid for a 4 day city break from Thursday. I'd not be happy to die at the sharp end of our nuclear deterrent.
On holiday in Madrid? What are you, some kind of Europhile? (spit)
Please take a leaf out of HYUFD's book, and holiday in ESSEX. But to be on the safe side, avoid any places with a record of being colonised by Foreigners - for example, Danes, Anglo-Saxons, Romans, and - as I say, to be on the safe side - Celts.
This year I have travelled to Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Scotland, Portugal, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland
I've been to Skegness Cleethorpes and Scunthorpe!!
Sterling continuing to rise. Goldmans telling traders to cover their sterling shorts.
As a Goldman Sachs alum, I think what you meant to say was "Goldman Sachs FX Strategist xxx advises clients and traders to close sterling shorts."
There will be hundreds of traders at Goldman with sterling positions - some will be long, some will be short. Management doesn't tell traders what positions they run*.
* With some exceptions.
More short than long across the market.
I am in that world too.
When you sell sterling short (or indeed any asset) you create an additional holder too. This is more obvious with shares. Say you want to bet on IBM going down: well, you need to borrow some IBM and then sell it.
So, before you short IBM:
Holders of IBM: 1,000 shares
You then borrow 100 shares of IBM and sell it.
Holders of IBM: 1,100 shares. IBM shorts: -100 shares.
The same is true of currencies. To bet on the price falling, I need to find someone to lend me some Sterling and then sell it. There therefore end up being an additional long position in sterling, as there is (a) the person who lent you the sterling, and (b) the person who bought the sterling off you.
I have no position on Northern Ireland's place in the UK/Ireland. I've never been there and I have precisely zero fucks to give about whether it stays or goes. But. Every time I see DUP folk speak I can't help but to root a little for Sinn Fein. I mean, I know there are good people in other unionist parties. Hell, there might even be some humans in the DUP itself. But gods what a dreadful sack of anuses the DUP are.
I mean most politicians are particularly ugly, strange looking people...very few exceptions..Zak Goldsmith, aside...but fuck me the DUP are an odd looking lot....
Oh and like you--I have no views on Northern Ireland--it already is one of the most heavily subsidised parts of the world per capita perhaps, and populated by the odd bigot or two, and you really wouldn't want to go there on holiday, or unless you had to (ie your plane got hijacked and diverted there)- the fact that Hyfud lives there hardly endears one more....
I don't like Rory particularly, or Barry McGuigan or the accent, the weather is worst than here...I don't think it proffers any culinary delights....it hasn't got any particularly innovative music or literary scene aside from sectarian ditties....in fact anything remotely likeable appears to be associated with south of the border rather than the 5 miserable counties....
I don't live in Northern Ireland, I live in Essex and am just on holiday there but despite your extremely rude dismissal of the entire province there are some excellent restaurants, great castles and historic houses and spectacular scenery and natural wonders, including Giant's Causeway which I am visiting tomorrow.
Plus, say what you like about the DUP but they do have a backbone
Yep, it’s a fantastic place. Everyone in GB should visit. I was last there in April. Carry on enjoying it.
Yes it is, so to be fair is the Republic after having visited Sligo and Donegal today
Yep - if you get the chance go to Carlingford, too, then get the ferry back into NI. It’s a stunning journey.
Perhaps that 'influential Conservative MP' would like to consider what would happen if IDS and Owen Paterson had the whip removed and defected to the Brexit Party and half the Tory core vote and membership followed them?
Just looking in.
You've shifted your focus from a British nuclear attack on Madrid, apparently. Thank heaven for small mercies ....
I'm relieved because I'm in Madrid for a 4 day city break from Thursday. I'd not be happy to die at the sharp end of our nuclear deterrent.
On holiday in Madrid? What are you, some kind of Europhile? (spit)
Please take a leaf out of HYUFD's book, and holiday in ESSEX. But to be on the safe side, avoid any places with a record of being colonised by Foreigners - for example, Danes, Anglo-Saxons, Romans, and - as I say, to be on the safe side - Celts.
This year I have travelled to Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Scotland, Portugal, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland
I've been to Skegness Cleethorpes and Scunthorpe!!
Perhaps that 'influential Conservative MP' would like to consider what would happen if IDS and Owen Paterson had the whip removed and defected to the Brexit Party and half the Tory core vote and membership followed them?
Just looking in.
You've shifted your focus from a British nuclear attack on Madrid, apparently. Thank heaven for small mercies ....
I'm relieved because I'm in Madrid for a 4 day city break from Thursday. I'd not be happy to die at the sharp end of our nuclear deterrent.
On holiday in Madrid? What are you, some kind of Europhile? (spit)
Please take a leaf out of HYUFD's book, and holiday in ESSEX. But to be on the safe side, avoid any places with a record of being colonised by Foreigners - for example, Danes, Anglo-Saxons, Romans, and - as I say, to be on the safe side - Celts.
This year I have travelled to Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Scotland, Portugal, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland
I've been to Skegness Cleethorpes and Scunthorpe!!
Yes. People like him and Fintan O’Toole and Tony Connelly of RTE are suddenly finding they’ve got a vastly wider audience, outwith Eire. Their views are sought by French, German, Italian media, the London Guardian commissions their articles, the BBC and CNN want to get them on screen.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
No more than the filthy Micks deserve, yes?
You think being "ironic" gives you a licence to spout that shit?
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
So, is this apparent new deal the same deal as was on offer in December 2017? The one that the then PM with the current PM sitting beside her and nodding along said no British PM could accept? The one that is worse than May’s deal?
Or is it that no-one knows and is just making stuff up?
Yes. People like him and Fintan O’Toole and Tony Connelly of RTE are suddenly finding they’ve got a vastly wider audience, outwith Eire. Their views are sought by French, German, Italian media, the London Guardian commissions their articles, the BBC and CNN want to get them on screen.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
No more than the filthy Micks deserve, yes?
You think being "ironic" gives you a licence to spout that shit?
Just unpacking the obvious message in a wholly helpful way. A public service, if you will.
I have no position on Northern Ireland's place in the UK/Ireland. I've never been there and I have precisely zero fucks to give about whether it stays or goes. But. Every time I see DUP folk speak I can't help but to root a little for Sinn Fein. I mean, I know there are good people in other unionist parties. Hell, there might even be some humans in the DUP itself. But gods what a dreadful sack of anuses the DUP are.
I mean most politicians are particularly ugly, strange looking people...very few exceptions..Zak Goldsmith, aside...but fuck me the DUP are an odd looking lot....
Oh and like you--I have no views on Northern Ireland--it already is one of the most heavily subsidised parts of the world per capita perhaps, and populated by the odd bigot or two, and you really wouldn't want to go there on holiday, or unless you had to (ie your plane got hijacked and diverted there)- the fact that Hyfud lives there hardly endears one more....
I don't like Rory particularly, or Barry McGuigan or the accent, the weather is worst than here...I don't think it proffers any culinary delights....it hasn't got any particularly innovative music or literary scene aside from sectarian ditties....in fact anything remotely likeable appears to be associated with south of the border rather than the 5 miserable counties....
I don't live in Northern Ireland, I live in Essex and am just on holiday there but despite your extremely rude dismissal of the entire province there are some excellent restaurants, great castles and historic houses and spectacular scenery and natural wonders, including Giant's Causeway which I am visiting tomorrow.
Plus, say what you like about the DUP but they do have a backbone
Yep, it’s a fantastic place. Everyone in GB should visit. I was last there in April. Carry on enjoying it.
Yes it is, so to be fair is the Republic after having visited Sligo and Donegal today
Yep - if you get the chance go to Carlingford, too, then get the ferry back into NI. It’s a stunning journey.
Probably don't have time now unfortunately but will keep in mind for future trips
You can’t expect Boris to remember the lies he told well over a decade ago.
It’s hard enough keeping them consistent in real time.
Wasn't he talked about being stopped in the street, rather than having to present ID to do something (presumably he already does it to enter a country or pick up a parcel)?
Perhaps that 'influential Conservative MP' would like to consider what would happen if IDS and Owen Paterson had the whip removed and defected to the Brexit Party and half the Tory core vote and membership followed them?
Just looking in.
You've shifted your focus from a British nuclear attack on Madrid, apparently. Thank heaven for small mercies ....
I'm relieved because I'm in Madrid for a 4 day city break from Thursday. I'd not be happy to die at the sharp end of our nuclear deterrent.
On holiday in Madrid? What are you, some kind of Europhile? (spit)
Please take a leaf out of HYUFD's book, and holiday in ESSEX. But to be on the safe side, avoid any places with a record of being colonised by Foreigners - for example, Danes, Anglo-Saxons, Romans, and - as I say, to be on the safe side - Celts.
This year I have travelled to Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Scotland, Portugal, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland
I've been to Skegness Cleethorpes and Scunthorpe!!
Well am sure you got some hearty meals
I have a poorly hearty that's why I have to tour shitholes rather than proper holidays.
Anyway goodnight hope your boy gets this deal done.
NI will be creaming it in from all directions as well as getting benefits from EU SM and CU as well as UK FTA with EU and other countries.
DUP would be mad to turn this down.
They will turn it down if it is a NI only backstop in all but name, the original Boris plan was as far as the DUP would go.
Which means we are back to needing a Tory majority for a Brexit Deal
Do you think Boris would settle for a backstop in all but name? Would you settle for that?
Personally I would settle for the GB backstop being removed but the DUP will not if some of the NI backstop remains and nor will some of the ERG so without a Tory majority I doubt it will pass unless at least 20 to 30 Labour MPs vote for it
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
They’ve routinely showed our hacks up, though, by being far better connected in Brussels, getting top scoops and understanding how things work. Maybe they’ve had to work harder to get to where they are.
Bottom line - vast majority of Con MPs and Leave supporters couldn't care less about the terms of the deal.
All they care about is just to get it done - anything will do.
That would make a change. And is not quite true or theyd being back the May deal now more labour say they'll vote for it. If the terms would not matter anymore theyd consider it at least. But the terms do still matter to a degree even if some will swallow options they would not before.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about?
To spell it out for you, as you need to be "talked through" it - you're behaving in an appallingly xenophobic way, and you should think about it, and stop it. Please, show some respect.
‘One person briefed on the negotiations said the DUP was asking for “billions not millions” for Northern Ireland’
BUT THEY ARE BEING BOUGHT
Fair enough. They have some catching up still before they get to the billions Scotland has had..... Can't blame them for milking the Golden Teat handed to them by the electorate.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
They’ve routinely showed our hacks up, though, by being far better connected in Brussels, getting top scoops and understanding how things work. Maybe they’ve had to work harder to get to where they are.
No, it’s a function of the smallness of Ireland. It’s almost certain the top hacks at RTE and the Irish Times know the main players in Dublin and ‘Irish Brussels’ personally. There are no levels intermediating. They get the gossip in the Irish pub in Luxembourg the moment it is created.
If London can feel like Westminster village, Dublin is a miniature hamlet of 6 people.
NI will be creaming it in from all directions as well as getting benefits from EU SM and CU as well as UK FTA with EU and other countries.
DUP would be mad to turn this down.
They will turn it down if it is a NI only backstop in all but name, the original Boris plan was as far as the DUP would go.
Which means we are back to needing a Tory majority for a Brexit Deal
Do you think Boris would settle for a backstop in all but name? Would you settle for that?
Personally I would settle for the GB backstop being removed but the DUP will not if some of the NI backstop remains and nor will some of the ERG so without a Tory majority I doubt it will pass unless at least 20 to 30 Labour MPs vote for it
So where will that leave dear Boris? Should the Tories try another new leader? Jacob? Michael? Dominic (Raabe - don't get too excited)? Priti? Andrea?
If dear Boris betrays them, really, whom can they trust?
Bottom line - vast majority of Con MPs and Leave supporters couldn't care less about the terms of the deal.
All they care about is just to get it done - anything will do.
That would make a change. And is not quite true or theyd being back the May deal now more labour say they'll vote for it. If the terms would not matter anymore theyd consider it at least. But the terms do still matter to a degree even if some will swallow options they would not before.
But it would look silly and be too embarrassing to bring back the May deal.
So it's now just a question of cobbling something together - literally anything, just to get it done.
If you said to Boris now that a deal will be done and it will pass the Commons then I'm quite sure he would accept anything.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about?
To spell it out for you, as you need to be "talked through" it - you're behaving in an appallingly xenophobic way, and you should think about it, and stop it. Please, show some respect.
Please tell me - for entertainment purposes - how I am being ‘appallingly xenophobic’ - for making the factual observation that Ireland is a very small country of 5 million people?
Would you prefer it if I said ‘Ireland has a population of 390 million people, and will soon overtake China’. Maybe I could say ‘Ireland is a vast, hi-tech Himalayan country, prone to cyber plagues, which has ambitions to conquer Neptune’?
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
They’ve routinely showed our hacks up, though, by being far better connected in Brussels, getting top scoops and understanding how things work. Maybe they’ve had to work harder to get to where they are.
No, it’s a function of the smallness of Ireland. It’s almost certain the top hacks at RTE and the Irish Times know the main players in Dublin and ‘Irish Brussels’ personally. There are no levels intermediating. They get the gossip in the Irish pub in Luxembourg the moment it is created.
If London can feel like Westminster village, Dublin is a miniature hamlet of 6 people.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about?
To spell it out for you, as you need to be "talked through" it - you're behaving in an appallingly xenophobic way, and you should think about it, and stop it. Please, show some respect.
Please tell me - for entertainment purposes - how I am being ‘appallingly xenophobic’ - for making the factual observation that Ireland is a very small country of 5 million people?
Would you prefer it if I said ‘Ireland has a population of 390 million people, and will soon overtake China’. Maybe I could say ‘Ireland is a vast, hi-tech Himalayan country, prone to cyber plagues, which has ambitions to conquer Neptune’?
A friendly word of advice - just don't say it front of the doctors.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
They’ve routinely showed our hacks up, though, by being far better connected in Brussels, getting top scoops and understanding how things work. Maybe they’ve had to work harder to get to where they are.
No, it’s a function of the smallness of Ireland. It’s almost certain the top hacks at RTE and the Irish Times know the main players in Dublin and ‘Irish Brussels’ personally. There are no levels intermediating. They get the gossip in the Irish pub in Luxembourg the moment it is created.
If London can feel like Westminster village, Dublin is a miniature hamlet of 6 people.
They get the scoops.
Yes, they do. I’m not denying that. The guy from RTE - Connelly - has been particularly good. I’m positing a reason WHY.
First we heard there wouldn't be a deal. Now it seems there will be a deal but we'll have to have a technical extension to next year.
I still think the EU wants us gone for the start of Empress Ursula's resign on 1st November so if a way can be found to shove us out the door have a feeling it will be...
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
They’ve routinely showed our hacks up, though, by being far better connected in Brussels, getting top scoops and understanding how things work. Maybe they’ve had to work harder to get to where they are.
No, it’s a function of the smallness of Ireland. It’s almost certain the top hacks at RTE and the Irish Times know the main players in Dublin and ‘Irish Brussels’ personally. There are no levels intermediating. They get the gossip in the Irish pub in Luxembourg the moment it is created.
If London can feel like Westminster village, Dublin is a miniature hamlet of 6 people.
They probably were all shared by the same priest..
NI will be creaming it in from all directions as well as getting benefits from EU SM and CU as well as UK FTA with EU and other countries.
DUP would be mad to turn this down.
They will turn it down if it is a NI only backstop in all but name, the original Boris plan was as far as the DUP would go.
Which means we are back to needing a Tory majority for a Brexit Deal
It will be a NI only backstop or more precisely NI staying in the SM and EU CU. No need of a backstop. The DUP will vote for it miraculously after receiving GBP 400m per vote.
NI will be creaming it in from all directions as well as getting benefits from EU SM and CU as well as UK FTA with EU and other countries.
DUP would be mad to turn this down.
They will turn it down if it is a NI only backstop in all but name, the original Boris plan was as far as the DUP would go.
Which means we are back to needing a Tory majority for a Brexit Deal
Do you think Boris would settle for a backstop in all but name? Would you settle for that?
Personally I would settle for the GB backstop being removed but the DUP will not if some of the NI backstop remains and nor will some of the ERG so without a Tory majority I doubt it will pass unless at least 20 to 30 Labour MPs vote for it
So where will that leave dear Boris? Should the Tories try another new leader? Jacob? Michael? Dominic (Raabe - don't get too excited)? Priti? Andrea?
If dear Boris betrays them, really, whom can they trust?
If Boris gets a Deal through even with a few Labour MPs he would likely stay leader but if not enough Labour MPs back him to avoid the need for DUP support he will likely have to go back to a No Deal position until the EU remove the backstop
NI will be creaming it in from all directions as well as getting benefits from EU SM and CU as well as UK FTA with EU and other countries.
DUP would be mad to turn this down.
They will turn it down if it is a NI only backstop in all but name, the original Boris plan was as far as the DUP would go.
Which means we are back to needing a Tory majority for a Brexit Deal
It will be a NI only backstop or more precisely NI staying in the SM and EU CU. No need of a backstop. The DUP will vote for it miraculously after receiving GBP 400m per vote.
If Boris gets a Deal through even with a few Labour MPs he would likely stay leader but if not enough Labour MPs back him to avoid the need for DUP support he will likely have to go back to a No Deal position until the EU remove the backstop
This is quite a weird position. If he's just negotiated a deal and recommended the deal to the House of Commons, and it fails because he has a few rebels on his side and also loses the DUP, and gets no help from the opposition, isn't the obvious next move to say, let's have an election so the voters can give me a majority to pass my deal??? It's not like he can get No Deal through with the current parliament either.
I mean, in theory he could say that the deal he just negotiated, which he just told parliament was great, was in fact sub-optimal because parliament took No Deal off the table, so now he wants to win a majority, take the latest deal off the table, put No Deal back on the table, and negotiate a *third* deal which will be better than the first one and the second one, but that lacks the refreshing clarity that he started out with, to put it mildly.
The huge wodge of cash isn't to buy off the DUP ( in a transactional sense ). It's to reinforce and transfer the majority support the old backstop had to the new frontstop agreement ( they are replacing the backstop with a NI specific endstate ) The DUP will privately hate the money because when the amount is announced it will put them in a pincer movement between the nationalist/non aligned parties and the UK Government.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
They’ve routinely showed our hacks up, though, by being far better connected in Brussels, getting top scoops and understanding how things work. Maybe they’ve had to work harder to get to where they are.
Plus generally the UK media over in Brussels are not the top of the tree in their organisations and the EU know this.
Parts of ERG showing, once again, that they can't bear the thought of the UK leaving the EU.
I'm curious as to how many of the Baker-Francois gang have never wanted to leave the EU and how many thought they wanted to leave only to discover that without the EU to complain about they would have no purpose in life.
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
Rule, Xenophobia! Xenophobia rule the waves!
Can you talk me through this response. Ta.
No need. We can all spot unalloyed misplaced nationalism.
What the fucking fuck are you on about? Ireland is a very small country. 5m people. Its hacks are obscure. For that reason. I’ve merely stated the case.
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
They’ve routinely showed our hacks up, though, by being far better connected in Brussels, getting top scoops and understanding how things work. Maybe they’ve had to work harder to get to where they are.
No, it’s a function of the smallness of Ireland. It’s almost certain the top hacks at RTE and the Irish Times know the main players in Dublin and ‘Irish Brussels’ personally. There are no levels intermediating. They get the gossip in the Irish pub in Luxembourg the moment it is created.
If London can feel like Westminster village, Dublin is a miniature hamlet of 6 people.
They get the scoops.
Yes, they do. I’m not denying that. The guy from RTE - Connelly - has been particularly good. I’m positing a reason WHY.
Different understanding of their jobs. Mr Connelly is basically reporting facts that he becomes aware of. British "hacks" are basically that, they write what their audience likes to read.
Did anything happen around 2016 that would cause such a thing?
[innocent face]
Learn to read a graph.
The fall starts in 2008.
But crossover in 2016...
The crossover is because it is measured in 2015 constant prices which means that nominal earnings are rising faster than real earnings ie what they almost always do because of inflation.
The huge wodge of cash isn't to buy off the DUP ( in a transactional sense ). It's to reinforce and transfer the majority support the old backstop had to the new frontstop agreement ( they are replacing the backstop with a NI specific endstate ) The DUP will privately hate the money because when the amount is announced it will put them in a pincer movement between the nationalist/non aligned parties and the UK Government.
And there's always the threat that current subsidies to NI might be reduced which would mean that the Union loses some of its attraction.
Biden is slurring his words slightly. And he keeps forgetting what he's saying. When he gets on his talking points, he's good. But oh my... (Cleverly saying that the Hunter Biden allegations show how Trump is scared of him.) He also keeps saying "the fact of the matter is..."
Sanders looks fine. Doesn't appear to have any ill effects from the heart attack. He's better at staying on topic than Biden.
Tom Steyer waiting for applause after a not very interesting comment. He's sensibly going after Trump. But the man is going nowhere.
Andrew Yang. Wear a tie man! He's claiming that the Democrats killed 300,000 manufacturing jobs. His intonation is off. The man is going nowhere.
Beto O'Rourke. Odd mannerisms. Talks too much.
The losers debate...it is really ridiculous that there are still 12 candidates debating. There is hardly any light when there are only 2 people, let alone 12.
It'll be interesting to see what happens to the Brexit Party share in the opinion polls if we don't leave on 31st October. I seem to remember there was some previous polling which suggested it might go up to around 20%, mainly at the Tories' expense.
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You need some pretty fucking amazing castles to get over THAT.
Please take a leaf out of HYUFD's book, and holiday in ESSEX. But to be on the safe side, avoid any places with a record of being colonised by Foreigners - for example, Danes, Anglo-Saxons, Romans, and - as I say, to be on the safe side - Celts.
https://twitter.com/PatLeahyIT/status/1184222473530859522
https://twitter.com/PatLeahyIT/status/1184222821259579394
If Brexit is done, they go back to being obscure hacks from a tiny country. Poignant.
If I only visited places which always voted Tory I would not even visit the ward I live in as it has 3 LD councillors!
DUP would be mad to turn this down.
Xenophobia rule the waves!
So, before you short IBM:
Holders of IBM: 1,000 shares
You then borrow 100 shares of IBM and sell it.
Holders of IBM: 1,100 shares.
IBM shorts: -100 shares.
The same is true of currencies. To bet on the price falling, I need to find someone to lend me some Sterling and then sell it. There therefore end up being an additional long position in sterling, as there is (a) the person who lent you the sterling, and (b) the person who bought the sterling off you.
You can’t expect Boris to remember the lies he told well over a decade ago.
It’s hard enough keeping them consistent in real time.
Which means we are back to needing a Tory majority for a Brexit Deal
- Huge move towards GE 2020 or later
- But little move re Brexit Date
These bizarre and touchy responses are more telling about the responder.
Or is it that no-one knows and is just making stuff up?
https://twitter.com/GerryHassan/status/1184236834974511104?s=20
‘One person briefed on the negotiations said the DUP was asking for “billions not millions” for Northern Ireland’
BUT THEY ARE BEING BOUGHT
Anyway goodnight hope your boy gets this deal done.
All they care about is just to get it done - anything will do.
https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1184223966690459648?s=20
Good night!
If London can feel like Westminster village, Dublin is a miniature hamlet of 6 people.
If dear Boris betrays them, really, whom can they trust?
So it's now just a question of cobbling something together - literally anything, just to get it done.
If you said to Boris now that a deal will be done and it will pass the Commons then I'm quite sure he would accept anything.
Would you prefer it if I said ‘Ireland has a population of 390 million people, and will soon overtake China’. Maybe I could say ‘Ireland is a vast, hi-tech Himalayan country, prone to cyber plagues, which has ambitions to conquer Neptune’?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/brexit-will-be-delayed-until-next-year-even-if-deal-is-reached-tonight-9qhrflxfv
First we heard there wouldn't be a deal. Now it seems there will be a deal but we'll have to have a technical extension to next year.
I still think the EU wants us gone for the start of Empress Ursula's resign on 1st November so if a way can be found to shove us out the door have a feeling it will be...
https://news.sky.com/story/family-of-harry-dunn-are-paying-a-visit-to-white-house-11836452
Did anything happen around 2016 that would cause such a thing?
[innocent face]
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/16/tory-brexit-rebel-antoinette-sandbach-loses-confidence-vote
Chortle.
The fall starts in 2008.
I mean, in theory he could say that the deal he just negotiated, which he just told parliament was great, was in fact sub-optimal because parliament took No Deal off the table, so now he wants to win a majority, take the latest deal off the table, put No Deal back on the table, and negotiate a *third* deal which will be better than the first one and the second one, but that lacks the refreshing clarity that he started out with, to put it mildly.
Likewise with Farage and his gang.
British "hacks" are basically that, they write what their audience likes to read.
Tulsi Gabbard is sensible but sadly dull.
Tom Steyer waiting for applause after a not very interesting comment. He's sensibly going after Trump. But the man is going nowhere.
Andrew Yang. Wear a tie man! He's claiming that the Democrats killed 300,000 manufacturing jobs. His intonation is off. The man is going nowhere.
Beto O'Rourke. Odd mannerisms. Talks too much.
Sanders looks fine. Doesn't appear to have any ill effects from the heart attack. He's better at staying on topic than Biden.
And even Bernie looks livelier than him.
I had high hopes for Gabbard, but god she's dull.