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  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Tom Steyer is trying to out-Sanders Sanders.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Cory Booker is a pretty impressive.

    OK. He ended up going on too long in the end and ended up a bit rambly.
    Cory Booker is a great candidate in theory but in practice no-one supports him. Like most of the candidates, he needs to thin the crowd without becoming one of the thinees himself.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    rcs1000 said:

    Tom Steyer is trying to out-Sanders Sanders.

    When he's passionate, he's suprisingly impressive.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Biden: "I would eliminate the capital gains tax. I would double the capital gains tax."

    What???

  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 613
    rcs1000 said:

    Warren. She's good at staying on point. She's good about personalising and making examples about specific people.

    It wears thin after a while. Remember Al Gore ?

    See 7 minutes in


  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited October 2019
    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."
  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 613
    PaulM said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Warren. She's good at staying on point. She's good about personalising and making examples about specific people.

    It wears thin after a while. Remember Al Gore ?

    See 7 minutes in
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDgRRVpemLo
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Warren is proposing a 2% wealth tax on those with more than $50m.

    She's is little Miss Give Away.
  • rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Tom Steyer is trying to out-Sanders Sanders.

    When he's passionate, he's suprisingly impressive.
    When he gets "passionate" he looks obsessed to me.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Kloubacher sensibly going after Trump.
  • Amy looks confident and comes across well, I think.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Harris is actually on now. Ummm... Ummm... Ummm.... Ummm...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    rcs1000 said:

    Harris is actually on now. Ummm... Ummm... Ummm.... Ummm...

    She's a bit boring.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    I'm not watching this debate but I think KLOBUCHAR is winning it
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151
    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    rcs1000 said:

    Harris is actually on now. Ummm... Ummm... Ummm.... Ummm...

    Dull delivery and too many numbers per answer. By the time voters have worked out whether Harris's highly specific proposal applies to them, they've forgotten what she said.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151
    edited October 2019
    AndyJS said:

    It'll be interesting to see what happens to the Brexit Party share in the opinion polls if we don't leave on 31st October. I seem to remember there was some previous polling which suggested it might go up to around 20%, mainly at the Tories' expense.

    https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1181462474115162113?s=20

    Of course Boris will sabotage extension, nominating a pro Brexit commissioner, sending a letter refusing extension as well as the one legally required to extend and even cutting defence cooperation with any nations that vote to agree extension.

    Though it seems he is still aiming for a Deal first he will still press for No Deal over further extension
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."


  • I'm not watching this debate but I think KLOBUCHAR is winning it

    Not so sure about that, but I think she's the most promising one among the ladies.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300





    I'm not watching this debate but I think KLOBUCHAR is winning it

    Not so sure about that, but I think she's the most promising one among the ladies.
    Amy's against Warren but why would you support Amy? She also gabbles but perhaps that is because she is not given much time.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."
    Yes well don't play me when in just over a year Trump arrives at his victory party having just been re elected after defeating Elizabeth Warren
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    It'll be interesting to see what happens to the Brexit Party share in the opinion polls if we don't leave on 31st October. I seem to remember there was some previous polling which suggested it might go up to around 20%, mainly at the Tories' expense.

    https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1181462474115162113?s=20

    Of course Boris will sabotage extension, nominating a pro Brexit commissioner, sending a letter refusing extension as well as the one legally required to extend and even cutting defence cooperation with any nations that vote to agree extension.

    Though it seems he is still aiming for a Deal first he will still press for No Deal over further extension
    Will he? It still seems to me like Boris wants to be forced into an extension and election.
  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 613
    Elizabeth Warren is making all kinds of promises which will be funded by a wealth tax, and Andrew Yang is the only one pointing out that it doesn't work. (Her tax strategist was proposing earlier today that the government could take shares in privately owned businesses as a way to get the taxes and then flip the stakes to someone else.)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."
    Yes well don't play me when in just over a year Trump arrives at his victory party having just been re elected after defeating Elizabeth Warren
    Warren would be a poor pick for the Dems. As would Biden.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    It'll be interesting to see what happens to the Brexit Party share in the opinion polls if we don't leave on 31st October. I seem to remember there was some previous polling which suggested it might go up to around 20%, mainly at the Tories' expense.

    https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1181462474115162113?s=20

    Of course Boris will sabotage extension, nominating a pro Brexit commissioner, sending a letter refusing extension as well as the one legally required to extend and even cutting defence cooperation with any nations that vote to agree extension.

    Though it seems he is still aiming for a Deal first he will still press for No Deal over further extension
    Will he? It still seems to me like Boris wants to be forced into an extension and election.
    He will not win an election unless he sabotages extension, so that is what he will do if a Deal is not passed by Saturday night, it will then be all out war against diehard Remainers as far as the law allows and maybe even close to the line of breaking it too
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,151
    edited October 2019
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."
    Yes well don't play me when in just over a year Trump arrives at his victory party having just been re elected after defeating Elizabeth Warren
    Warren would be a poor pick for the Dems. As would Biden.
    If not Biden it will almost certainly be Warren the Dems pick in my view now
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 5,751
    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."
    Yes well don't play me when in just over a year Trump arrives at his victory party having just been re elected after defeating Elizabeth Warren
    Warren would be a poor pick for the Dems. As would Biden.
    Do I understand correctly that Warren wants to split the App Store away from Apple, AWS from Amazon and Google from Alphabet? Most politicians would kill to have just one such company driving high income jobs, domestic r&d and gdp. Why is she so keen to blow up the NASDAQ?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    PaulM said:

    Elizabeth Warren is making all kinds of promises which will be funded by a wealth tax, and Andrew Yang is the only one pointing out that it doesn't work. (Her tax strategist was proposing earlier today that the government could take shares in privately owned businesses as a way to get the taxes and then flip the stakes to someone else.)

    His comment about how wealth taxes had failed in other countries was an excellent one.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."
    Yes well don't play me when in just over a year Trump arrives at his victory party having just been re elected after defeating Elizabeth Warren
    Warren would be a poor pick for the Dems. As would Biden.
    Do I understand correctly that Warren wants to split the App Store away from Apple, AWS from Amazon and Google from Alphabet? Most politicians would kill to have just one such company driving high income jobs, domestic r&d and gdp. Why is she so keen to blow up the NASDAQ?
    She's not big on American success stories. I do wonder if she's too left wing for the Democrats this time around.

    Which means, step forward Me Pete Buttigieg.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Buttigieg is excellent on foreign policy. By far the most Presidential of the candidates.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    rcs1000 said:

    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."
    Yes well don't play me when in just over a year Trump arrives at his victory party having just been re elected after defeating Elizabeth Warren
    Warren would be a poor pick for the Dems. As would Biden.
    Do I understand correctly that Warren wants to split the App Store away from Apple, AWS from Amazon and Google from Alphabet? Most politicians would kill to have just one such company driving high income jobs, domestic r&d and gdp. Why is she so keen to blow up the NASDAQ?
    She's not big on American success stories. I do wonder if she's too left wing for the Democrats this time around.

    Which means, step forward Me Pete Buttigieg.
    Mayor Pete has the best speaking voice; he sounds presidential but what he stands for is still not clear.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Castro just had a great line about the current policy being locking kids up in cages while letting ISIS prisoners go free.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    rcs1000 said:

    PaulM said:

    Elizabeth Warren is making all kinds of promises which will be funded by a wealth tax, and Andrew Yang is the only one pointing out that it doesn't work. (Her tax strategist was proposing earlier today that the government could take shares in privately owned businesses as a way to get the taxes and then flip the stakes to someone else.)

    His comment about how wealth taxes had failed in other countries was an excellent one.

    Not really. He claimed it but gave no evidence, still less saying how the same thing would happen in the United States where there is less opportunity to move to the country next door. Maybe that is inevitable given this overcrowded debate stage.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    moonshine said:


    Do I understand correctly that Warren wants to split the App Store away from Apple, AWS from Amazon and Google from Alphabet? Most politicians would kill to have just one such company driving high income jobs, domestic r&d and gdp. Why is she so keen to blow up the NASDAQ?

    If I was an Amazon and an Alphabet shareholder I don't think I'd be that bothered about my two great companies being split up into four great companies. The concentration of power issues here are real.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Good to see the debate moderators have adopted Jeremy Corbyn's early PMQs crowdsourcing technique. :smile:
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300

    moonshine said:


    Do I understand correctly that Warren wants to split the App Store away from Apple, AWS from Amazon and Google from Alphabet? Most politicians would kill to have just one such company driving high income jobs, domestic r&d and gdp. Why is she so keen to blow up the NASDAQ?

    If I was an Amazon and an Alphabet shareholder I don't think I'd be that bothered about my two great companies being split up into four great companies. The concentration of power issues here are real.
    There are monopolies or as the Americans say antitrust issues. More interestingly though is these companies are really old-fashioned conglomerates of the type we've been told for decades, not least by corporate raiders, are inefficient.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,869
    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."
    Yes well don't play me when in just over a year Trump arrives at his victory party having just been re elected after defeating Elizabeth Warren
    Warren would be a poor pick for the Dems. As would Biden.
    If not Biden it will almost certainly be Warren the Dems pick in my view now
    A very rare chance to agree with one of HY’s predictions.

    Meanwhile a Brexit extension is looking ever more likely, and with it Mr Glenn’s chances of winning his £1000.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Just scanned 538's coverage and it is interesting their pundits are split (like pb) on whether Amy Klobuchar is having a good debate.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708

    moonshine said:


    Do I understand correctly that Warren wants to split the App Store away from Apple, AWS from Amazon and Google from Alphabet? Most politicians would kill to have just one such company driving high income jobs, domestic r&d and gdp. Why is she so keen to blow up the NASDAQ?

    If I was an Amazon and an Alphabet shareholder I don't think I'd be that bothered about my two great companies being split up into four great companies. The concentration of power issues here are real.
    There are monopolies or as the Americans say antitrust issues. More interestingly though is these companies are really old-fashioned conglomerates of the type we've been told for decades, not least by corporate raiders, are inefficient.
    Yup, exactly. I mean, I doubt anything run by Jeff Bezos is inefficient, but he won't be there forever. And "Alphabet" is a sprawling mess propped up by a couple of cash cows, from what I hear.
  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 613

    Just scanned 538's coverage and it is interesting their pundits are split (like pb) on whether Amy Klobuchar is having a good debate.

    I do think the format has the effect of making most of the candidates seem small and underwhelming. The candidates are fielding questions, but they aren't debating each other much.

  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    edited October 2019

    Just scanned 538's coverage and it is interesting their pundits are split (like pb) on whether Amy Klobuchar is having a good debate.

    One tension here is that going on the attack against other Democrats is unpopular, obviously especially among that person's supporters, but also in general. However, going on the attack is the only way to get attention, and if you can't get attention you just disappear.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237

    moonshine said:


    Do I understand correctly that Warren wants to split the App Store away from Apple, AWS from Amazon and Google from Alphabet? Most politicians would kill to have just one such company driving high income jobs, domestic r&d and gdp. Why is she so keen to blow up the NASDAQ?

    If I was an Amazon and an Alphabet shareholder I don't think I'd be that bothered about my two great companies being split up into four great companies. The concentration of power issues here are real.
    There are monopolies or as the Americans say antitrust issues. More interestingly though is these companies are really old-fashioned conglomerates of the type we've been told for decades, not least by corporate raiders, are inefficient.
    Yup, exactly. I mean, I doubt anything run by Jeff Bezos is inefficient, but he won't be there forever. And "Alphabet" is a sprawling mess propped up by a couple of cash cows, from what I hear.
    YouTube was a crazy money pit for a decade. But it's now an extraordinary cash cow.
  • PaulMPaulM Posts: 613
    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."
    Yes well don't play me when in just over a year Trump arrives at his victory party having just been re elected after defeating Elizabeth Warren
    Warren would be a poor pick for the Dems. As would Biden.
    Do I understand correctly that Warren wants to split the App Store away from Apple, AWS from Amazon and Google from Alphabet? Most politicians would kill to have just one such company driving high income jobs, domestic r&d and gdp. Why is she so keen to blow up the NASDAQ?
    Now saying she wants to break up the big Pharmaceutical companies, the big banks, the big oil companies and the big media companies as well.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    PaulM said:

    moonshine said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    rcs1000 said:

    HYUFD said:

    AndyJS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    AndyJS said:

    Biden: "I'd like to eliminate capital gains tax — no, I'd like to double it."

    Does anyone other than @HYUFD think he's charismatic?
    He has a sort of faded charisma, to put it charitably.
    He is also more centrist and appeals more to Independent and African Americans, without them turning out and voting Democrat Trump will likely be re elected
    "And a third thing. Oh second. No third."
    Yes well don't play me when in just over a year Trump arrives at his victory party having just been re elected after defeating Elizabeth Warren
    Warren would be a poor pick for the Dems. As would Biden.
    Do I understand correctly that Warren wants to split the App Store away from Apple, AWS from Amazon and Google from Alphabet? Most politicians would kill to have just one such company driving high income jobs, domestic r&d and gdp. Why is she so keen to blow up the NASDAQ?
    Now saying she wants to break up the big Pharmaceutical companies, the big banks, the big oil companies and the big media companies as well.
    This used to be uncontroversial. Monopolies are bad for capitalism.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Booker wants to create a cabinet level position of Reproductive Freedom.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Biden is good on reproductive rights and the Supreme Court. He's strengthened as the debate has gone on.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Buttigieg good on the Supreme Court. He's got a way of appearing serious and sincere, which was a real Reagan skill.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    rcs1000 said:

    Buttigieg good on the Supreme Court. He's got a way of appearing serious and sincere, which was a real Reagan skill.

    Yes but what is Mayor Pete's policy? He said something should be done, outlined a few options but did not commit to any of them.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    I take it back. Biden's gone all incomprehensble again.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237

    rcs1000 said:

    Buttigieg good on the Supreme Court. He's got a way of appearing serious and sincere, which was a real Reagan skill.

    Yes but what is Mayor Pete's policy? He said something should be done, outlined a few options but did not commit to any of them.
    You see that as a weakness, I see it as a strength.

    Great candidates are blank slates on which voters project their hopes.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Warren is waffling now. Waffling. Waffing Waffling.
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    rcs1000 said:

    I take it back. Biden's gone all incomprehensble again.

    Biden is fine but his frequent slips of the tongue, inconsequential in themselves, confirm his opponents' attacks.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237

    rcs1000 said:

    I take it back. Biden's gone all incomprehensble again.

    Biden is fine but his frequent slips of the tongue, inconsequential in themselves, confirm his opponents' attacks.
    Agreed.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    That Kloubacher smirk is really annoying. Much worse than Priti.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    OT but hats off to Harry Dunn's parents for their dignified response to Trump's attempt to bounce them into meeting the wife of the US diplomat involved in their son's death:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7577013/Parents-UK-crash-victim-seek-justice-White-House.html
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    OT the Conservative Party's new social media operation.
    The Tories' 24-hour meme machine plotting to win the next election
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/10/15/revealed-tories-24-hour-meme-machine-plotting-win-next-election/
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,237
    Scott_P said:
    Young Cardinal prefers old Pope shocker.

    Sanders was at just 5% in the last Iowa poll.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    "Harry Dunn parents: Trump shocked us by revealing Sacoolas was in next room

    Charlotte Charles says president dropped ‘bombshell’ as grieving parents visited White House"

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/15/harry-dunn-parents-trump-white-house-anne-sacoolas
  • rcs1000 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Buttigieg good on the Supreme Court. He's got a way of appearing serious and sincere, which was a real Reagan skill.

    Yes but what is Mayor Pete's policy? He said something should be done, outlined a few options but did not commit to any of them.
    You see that as a weakness, I see it as a strength.

    Great candidates are blank slates on which voters project their hopes.
    I think that's unquestionably an important skill, in order to appeal to as broad a selection of the electorate as possible, but I think it's as important that he manages to create the impression that he understands the limitations of the office very well, that American presidents can shape policies in some fields more actively than in others, that political capital is not an unlimited resource, and how important it is to be realistic and be competent enough to pick his spots and focus on the 'doable' rather than the 'grand vision'.
  • MangoMango Posts: 1,019
    Brom said:



    A reasonable deal won't damage much either so at worst your man from Hartlepool will wonder what all the fuss was about. Hopefully all but the most ardent remainers come on board when they see the opportunities and realise Britain won't turn into Bulgaria.

    Perhaps you'd like to list those "opportunities".
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    rcs1000 said:

    Andrew Yang very passionate about automation. Warren seems to want to give everybody money.

    I had high hopes for Gabbard, but god she's dull.

    rcs1000 said:

    Andrew Yang very passionate about automation. Warren seems to want to give everybody money.

    I had high hopes for Gabbard, but god she's dull.

    Also a massive Assad apologist.
  • MuninMunin Posts: 7
    A previous post showed just how bad betting markets have been at predicting important political events, like Trump and Brexit.
    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2019/09/10/when-the-betting-markets-got-it-wrong/

    Is there any solid evidence on the predictive power of political betting markets?
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