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I don’t think that I ever believed that the Euro fanatics would let this go easily. But they have slowly gathered some courage from somewhere and stopped snivelling. It’s taken 3 years but they have got there.TOPPING said:
If only anyone had had any thoughts on June 2016 that this might happen.DavidL said:So not close after all. Maybe 12 Tories voting against the government? But we have a resolution under the FTPA which the opposition are not going to vote for. This farce stopped being funny longer ago than Monty Python.
Edit 21. Blimey. Completely ungovernable.0 -
Its how they do it in Germany.rottenborough said:Armando Iannucci will never work again if Boris proposes VoNC in himself and then whips to vote for it.
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All the right people are rattled tonight. Great success I’d say.0
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And I'm sure she'll be devastated by this sad result.HYUFD said:https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1168999813846896647?s=20
Theresa in the end was no traitor
In your crazy world.
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Just heard the news
Boris should do the following
Suspend the suspensions
Accept the no deal bill and obtain RA
Stand at the dispatch box and confirm that the election will take place on the 15th October
Seek the HOC consent for the GE
Oh - and sack Cummings0 -
Was Bozo a traitor the twice he voted against May?HYUFD said:https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1168999813846896647?s=20
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They've made Jezzer looks like an anti-Brexiteer. But its too late to garner any votes from that as the LDs are now squatting there...Foxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!0 -
Like I predicted, Labour rebels <5, not including Skinner. Good to see Berger, Field, Hermon and Shuker among the Yes votes. Personally, I'd be very pleased to see Berger and Shuker rejoin Labour. Field, I think, is one of nature's natural independents - I'd be surprised if he joined anyone again.Pulpstar said:Bebb, Benyon, Brine, Burt, Clark, Clarke, Gauke, Greening, Grieve, Gyimah, Hammond, Hammond, Harrington, James, Lee, Letwin, Milton, Nokes, Sandbach, Soames, Stewart, Vaizey are the 22 rebels.
Kate Hoey & John Mann 2 rebels on the Labour side.
Austin, Lewis & Elphicke joined the Gov't as independents
Allen, Berger, Boles, Field, Hermon!, Lloyd, Shuker, Smith joined the opposition as independents.
Gov't majority is now -45 I assume if all 22 will lose the whip0 -
Robert joining me in condemning the labour MPs elected to respect the referendum result then voting against every way of leaving was tonight’s personal high point. The predictable lack of condemnation of his view was beautiful.TOPPING said:0 -
You will get your wishFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!0 -
Siri - what does privileged, arrogant, entitlement look like?
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This is for the Boris FTPA election vote? They can vote for it, safe in knowledge that needs 2/3.Scott_P said:
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Bojo's government weak and frit!Peter_the_Punter said:Leadsome just suggested rebels will NOT lose the whip.
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I don't follow your point. The public being told things doesn't change the law, and we will no doubt very shortly get the opportunity for the public to express their outrage. They might well do so.isam said:The public were told their decision was final in the EU referendum. THEIR decision, NOT politicians.
They voted to leave.
MPs have voted 4 times to prevent it0 -
I understand why you're lashing out. Had you been an MP you would also have had to vote with your conscience against the government.HYUFD said:https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1168999813846896647?s=20
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As a result of tonights vote there are now only two possible outcomes, a GE or revoke. Any chance of any sort of negotiated deal is now dead.TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.rcs1000 said:Can we please have an election so that we have resolution one way or another.
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Voters will look at Corbyn now and see a slimey, politico back-slider.HYUFD said:
It does indeed, almost a Tory PPB tonightGIN1138 said:
Yes and Corbyn being very wishy washy on an election after spending two years demanding one looks absolutely dreadful...HYUFD said:This is excellent tactics by Boris, tonight in prime time on BBC1 and ITV and the news channels all the coverage was of Boris promising to deliver Brexit Deal or No Deal and of Corbyn committing to try and ban No Deal Brexit and extend again, costing him potentially millions of Labour Leave voters in the process whether to the Tories or the Brexit Party
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They have actually made Jezza look far from the voice of the people a la 2017 but now the voice of the establishment defying the will of the people. He will never recover from tonight in Leave areas in the North and MidlandsFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!2 -
High speed rail now connects Hubris and Nemesis in record time. A Grayling success story.Yellow_Submarine said:Hubris leads to Nemesis.
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When danger reared its ugly head, Sir Boris bravely turned his tail and fled:DougSeal said:
Apparently they are not losing the whip after all. Weird - I thought BJ was strictly a man of his word.Philip_Thompson said:
7 fewer Tories lost tonight than May's election.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Henry Zeffman @hzeffman
now
21 TORY REBELS
Bebb
Benyon
Brine
Burt
Clark
Clarke
Gauke
Greening
Grieve
Gyimah
Hammond P
Hammond S
Harrington
James
Letwin
Milton
Nokes
Sandbach
Soames
Stewart
Vaizey
2 LABOUR REBELS
Hoey
Mann
So long!
https://youtu.be/BZwuTo7zKM8
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Andrea Leadsom to believe that Pathetic Bunter has folded on removing the whip from the Tory rebellion.
Absolutely first class bottling by Bottler Billy Bunter, Mug Punter.0 -
I think the BXP and the LDs will cancel themselves out. Plus Nigel has a narrative: don't trust the Tories to deliver Brexit.Philip_Thompson said:
Unlikely.TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.rcs1000 said:Can we please have an election so that we have resolution one way or another.
If a GE returned the same number of MPs by party as last time it would be a Tory+DUP effective majority on a vote like tonight. Each party will be 'purer' next time.0 -
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Several people on multiple occasions over recent weeks have suggested Boris wanted parliament to stop him so he could have a parliament vs the people election, that if they could not stop him he gets no deal and if they stop him he gets an election he can win, so stick your arrogant sanctimony about how 'you people' do not understand where it belongs. Some just disagree.basicbridge said:
He is saying it was framed in such a way that it didnt matter whether he lost or not.DougSeal said:
Again, you’re saying he deliberately lost the vote tonight?HYUFD said:
He lost the battle to win the war, this was exactly the image Cummings wanted, MPs voting to enable the blocking of Brexit against the wishes of the PMDougSeal said:
So he set out to lose tonight?HYUFD said:This is excellent tactics by Boris, tonight in prime time on BBC1 and ITV and the news channels all the coverage was of Boris promising to deliver Brexit Deal or No Deal and of Corbyn committing to try and ban No Deal Brexit and extend again, costing him potentially millions of Labour Leave voters in the process whether to the Tories or the Brexit Party
"Head i win, tails you lose". And STILL you people dont understand....0 -
A basic lack of understanding. "Parliamentary Sovereignty" is something so often championed by people who have no idea what it is.kle4 said:
I don't follow your point. The public being told things doesn't change the law, and we will no doubt very shortly get the opportunity for the public to express their outrage. They might well do so.isam said:The public were told their decision was final in the EU referendum. THEIR decision, NOT politicians.
They voted to leave.
MPs have voted 4 times to prevent it0 -
Consent withheld until GE secured?0
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TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.
I'm not convinced. I have a feeling the country will swing very decisively one way or another... Either to end this constant debate by giving Boris a majority to implement Brexit... Or by giving Corbyn a mjaority to stop Brexit.0 -
Maybe. But who wouldn't jump at another go at the WA?Richard_Tyndall said:
As a result of tonights vote there are now only two possible outcomes, a GE or revoke. Any chance of any sort of negotiated deal is now dead.TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.rcs1000 said:Can we please have an election so that we have resolution one way or another.
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It's a shame the game is tennis.Gallowgate said:
Cummings playing 4D chess alright.Peter_the_Punter said:Leadsome just suggested rebels will NOT lose the whip.
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You would make a much wiser advisor to the PM than Mr Cummings.Big_G_NorthWales said:Just heard the news
Boris should do the following
Suspend the suspensions
Accept the no deal bill and obtain RA
Stand at the dispatch box and confirm that the election will take place on the 15th October
Seek the HOC consent for the GE
Oh - and sack Cummings0 -
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Well, quite.Big_G_NorthWales said:Just heard the news
Boris should do the following
Suspend the suspensions
Accept the no deal bill and obtain RA
Stand at the dispatch box and confirm that the election will take place on the 15th October
Seek the HOC consent for the GE
Oh - and sack Cummings0 -
It is clear you dont understand what has happened.Gallowgate said:All the right people are rattled tonight. Great success I’d say.
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Does Google Translate speak HYUFD?HYUFD said:
They have actually made Jezza look far from the voice of the people a la 2017 but now the voice of the establishment defying the will of the peopleFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!0 -
Did he vote against her in a confidence motion?SandyRentool said:
Was Bozo a traitor the twice he voted against May?HYUFD said:https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1168999813846896647?s=20
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Millions upon millions do and will think that.Beibheirli_C said:
Playing with himself, more likely.Gallowgate said:
Cummings playing 4D chess alright.Peter_the_Punter said:Leadsome just suggested rebels will NOT lose the whip.
This is ridiculous. How can anybody think this shower could govern?0 -
So the MPs doing what, according to you, Boris wanted them to do are traitors?HYUFD said:https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1168999813846896647?s=20
Theresa in the end was no traitor, unlike some of her colleagues0 -
Most likely not. The parties this time around would be elected under such terms that one has to consider it likely that a majority either to prosecute Brexit or to wriggle out of it would emerge.TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.rcs1000 said:Can we please have an election so that we have resolution one way or another.
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You'd like to think that he might be reflecting that that champagne party after he and his fellow morons voted against Brexit was just maybe a mistake. But he’s too arrogant.SouthamObserver said:Siri - what does privileged, arrogant, entitlement look like?
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The floggings will continue until morale improves.Scott_P said:0 -
Seems pretty clear to me.Chris said:
Does Google Translate speak HYUFD?HYUFD said:
They have actually made Jezza look far from the voice of the people a la 2017 but now the voice of the establishment defying the will of the peopleFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!
And spot on.....0 -
Monday, I suggest.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
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As 2015 and 2017 have shown the betting markets known fuck all about British GEs or do you live in the reality where Ed Miliband won most seats in 2015 and May got a large majority in 2017?basicbridge said:Well who'd have guessed it?! Another TSE article telling us all that Johnson is a Bozo and a loser. What a surprise Meanwhile con maj odds at the next GE continue to shorten....
Into the echo chamber....0 -
Is that a trick question? Virtually everyone.TOPPING said:
Maybe. But who wouldn't jump at another go at the WA?Richard_Tyndall said:
As a result of tonights vote there are now only two possible outcomes, a GE or revoke. Any chance of any sort of negotiated deal is now dead.TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.rcs1000 said:Can we please have an election so that we have resolution one way or another.
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Good. If we are to have realignment, let’s get on with it. Enough faffing. WE DON’T HAVE ANY TIME LEFTScott_P said:0 -
And Andrea Leadsom has been demoted to tea lady ...Scott_P said:0 -
Corbyn's message is a Labour deal. It will resonate as the only deal to date, a Tory deal, has been shown to be a fiasco.HYUFD said:
Boris was brilliant, clear, decisive and with a snappy message, Brexit with me Deal or No Deal, or no Brexit with CorbynDougSeal said:Boris is a surprisingly poor at the despatch box. Not sure it matters much these days but he doesn’t sound particularly confident.
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Well you clearly do!kle4 said:
Several people on multiple occasions over recent weeks have suggested Boris wanted parliament to stop him so he could have a parliament vs the people election, that if they could not stop him he gets no deal and if they stop him he gets an election he can win, so stick your arrogant sanctimony about how 'you people' do not understand where it belongs. Some just disagree.basicbridge said:
He is saying it was framed in such a way that it didnt matter whether he lost or not.DougSeal said:
Again, you’re saying he deliberately lost the vote tonight?HYUFD said:
He lost the battle to win the war, this was exactly the image Cummings wanted, MPs voting to enable the blocking of Brexit against the wishes of the PMDougSeal said:
So he set out to lose tonight?HYUFD said:This is excellent tactics by Boris, tonight in prime time on BBC1 and ITV and the news channels all the coverage was of Boris promising to deliver Brexit Deal or No Deal and of Corbyn committing to try and ban No Deal Brexit and extend again, costing him potentially millions of Labour Leave voters in the process whether to the Tories or the Brexit Party
"Head i win, tails you lose". And STILL you people dont understand....0 -
Sounds like the end of the union.Theuniondivvie said:0 -
What's the size of the pure core that you are aiming for?Philip_Thompson said:
7 fewer Tories lost tonight than May's election.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Henry Zeffman @hzeffman
now
21 TORY REBELS
Bebb
Benyon
Brine
Burt
Clark
Clarke
Gauke
Greening
Grieve
Gyimah
Hammond P
Hammond S
Harrington
James
Letwin
Milton
Nokes
Sandbach
Soames
Stewart
Vaizey
2 LABOUR REBELS
Hoey
Mann
So long!0 -
BBC Scotland doing a wee background visualisation of BJ Brexit for ye.
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Corbyn the Marxist now on the side of Parliament's establishment against the people...Scott_P said:
What would Tony Bean have said about that...0 -
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You can survive a lot of setbacks, but a loss of respect is usually fatal.
Our current govt might want to reflect on that.0 -
He hasnt folded.Anabobazina said:Andrea Leadsom to believe that Pathetic Bunter has folded on removing the whip from the Tory rebellion.
Absolutely first class bottling by Bottler Billy Bunter, Mug Punter.
It is tactics. Do you really not understand that?!0 -
If that is true, and I’m not saying it isn’t, is it important to now secure that election soonest to cash in on the moment? How long does such a moment last until it’s replaced by another moment, such as the moment Boris will find himself in next month if there isn’t a GE?HYUFD said:This is excellent tactics by Boris, tonight in prime time on BBC1 and ITV and the news channels all the coverage was of Boris promising to deliver Brexit Deal or No Deal and of Corbyn committing to try and ban No Deal Brexit and extend again, costing him potentially millions of Labour Leave voters in the process whether to the Tories or the Brexit Party
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The Commons voting confidence in a government they have defeated on their main policy is a joke. The FTPA truly was constitutional vandalism. It should be scrapped ASAP..0
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Rees-Mogg is going to regret that image for a long time.SouthamObserver said:Siri - what does privileged, arrogant, entitlement look like?
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Go on then - tell us what it means!basicbridge said:
Seems pretty clear to me.Chris said:
Does Google Translate speak HYUFD?HYUFD said:
They have actually made Jezza look far from the voice of the people a la 2017 but now the voice of the establishment defying the will of the peopleFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!
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It wasn't exactly Churchillian was it? for example this response to Ken Clarke:HYUFD said:
Boris was brilliant, clear, decisive and with a snappy message, Brexit with me Deal or No Deal, or no Brexit with CorbynDougSeal said:Boris is a surprisingly poor at the despatch box. Not sure it matters much these days but he doesn’t sound particularly confident.
https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1168906137506385926?s=09
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So are they losing the whip or not? To not do it now will be fatal after all of the warnings.0
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I would but they won't. Corbyn wants his election and the Remainers want revocation. Neither group will now support the WA.TOPPING said:
Maybe. But who wouldn't jump at another go at the WA?Richard_Tyndall said:
As a result of tonights vote there are now only two possible outcomes, a GE or revoke. Any chance of any sort of negotiated deal is now dead.TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.rcs1000 said:Can we please have an election so that we have resolution one way or another.
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I think Boris is getting a sharp lesson tonight in not having it all his own way.
His disdain for people whose votes he needs has resulted in a worse-than-inevitable defeat in the HoC, which may be a useful take-out for him ahead of a general election campaign. He’ll probably have most of the (sizeable) Farage crowd eating from his hand, but a lot of moderate, business-minded people will not feel obliged to meet him halfway.
Meanwhile, the HoC looks like treating him in much the way a cat does a captive mouse. Not willing to kill him off because it gets more utility from a still-wriggling near-corpse.0 -
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No, Rees Mogg a Patriot unlike MPs like Turley showing true arrogance, entitlement, disrespect and contempt for the will of the peopleSouthamObserver said:Siri - what does privileged, arrogant, entitlement look like?
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Hope OGH's hearing aid was working for Johnson's humiliation.0
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Jezza still gets to befuddle. Vote for us for a Labour deal.Black_Rook said:
Most likely not. The parties this time around would be elected under such terms that one has to consider it likely that a majority either to prosecute Brexit or to wriggle out of it would emerge.TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.rcs1000 said:Can we please have an election so that we have resolution one way or another.
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One for the thread headers to come.Benpointer said:
Rees-Mogg is going to regret that image for a long time.SouthamObserver said:Siri - what does privileged, arrogant, entitlement look like?
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TOPPING said:
The country is fine. It’s suffering moderate damage because our political class cannot make a decision but it will survive. Needs a better political class though.0 -
I usually deprecate foul language, but I am pretty certain I speak for the vast majority of the PB community in inviting you to fuck off.basicbridge said:
He hasnt folded.Anabobazina said:Andrea Leadsom to believe that Pathetic Bunter has folded on removing the whip from the Tory rebellion.
Absolutely first class bottling by Bottler Billy Bunter, Mug Punter.
It is tactics. Do you really not understand that?!
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Crazy times.....kle4 said:
Millions upon millions do and will think that.Beibheirli_C said:
Playing with himself, more likely.Gallowgate said:
Cummings playing 4D chess alright.Peter_the_Punter said:Leadsome just suggested rebels will NOT lose the whip.
This is ridiculous. How can anybody think this shower could govern?0 -
Quite.HYUFD said:
They have actually made Jezza look far from the voice of the people a la 2017 but now the voice of the establishment defying the will of the people. He will never recover from tonight in Leave areas in the North and MidlandsFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!
Corbyn has no chance of getting close to a majority now. Odds on a Con maj have shortened over the last 24 hours.
I think we could be looking at a Lab wipeout. Losing seats in the NW and Midlands to the Cons, and in the scotland , the south, university towns and the west to the LDs.0 -
It is when it wins the PR warRecidivist said:
It isn't a characteristic of charismatic election winning leaders backed up by strategic geniuses to lose their first vote whilst splitting their party.TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
This is the what the entitled establishment looks like:HYUFD said:
They have actually made Jezza look far from the voice of the people a la 2017 but now the voice of the establishment defying the will of the peopleFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!
https://twitter.com/annaturley/status/1168980398166237185?s=20
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U-turn on the U-turn. Shambolic.Scott_P said:0 -
I've been having fun all day. I just got back in. It appears something has happened of great import. I would ask you to describe it but I suspect by the time you finished writing it will have changed again. I shall just assume its a massive clusterfuck and go on from there...
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Would it be an exaggeration to say he holds all the cards, do you think?basicbridge said:
He hasnt folded.Anabobazina said:Andrea Leadsom to believe that Pathetic Bunter has folded on removing the whip from the Tory rebellion.
Absolutely first class bottling by Bottler Billy Bunter, Mug Punter.
It is tactics. Do you really not understand that?!0 -
It would be ironic if the only way Boris gets his Brexit majority is by Scotland leaving.Theuniondivvie said:0 -
There was clearly no u-turn.SandyRentool said:
U-turn on the U-turn. Shambolic.Scott_P said:0 -
Yes. Remainers, understandably, have their dander up. They won’t stop, now, til Brexit is killed off. And they will likely succeed.Richard_Tyndall said:
I would but they won't. Corbyn wants his election and the Remainers want revocation. Neither group will now support the WA.TOPPING said:
Maybe. But who wouldn't jump at another go at the WA?Richard_Tyndall said:
As a result of tonights vote there are now only two possible outcomes, a GE or revoke. Any chance of any sort of negotiated deal is now dead.TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.rcs1000 said:Can we please have an election so that we have resolution one way or another.
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325+ willing to vote with the whip on confidence matters.OblitusSumMe said:
What's the size of the pure core that you are aiming for?Philip_Thompson said:
7 fewer Tories lost tonight than May's election.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Henry Zeffman @hzeffman
now
21 TORY REBELS
Bebb
Benyon
Brine
Burt
Clark
Clarke
Gauke
Greening
Grieve
Gyimah
Hammond P
Hammond S
Harrington
James
Letwin
Milton
Nokes
Sandbach
Soames
Stewart
Vaizey
2 LABOUR REBELS
Hoey
Mann
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Scotland won't leave in time to save Boris...Gabs2 said:
It would be ironic if the only way Boris gets his Brexit majority is by Scotland leaving.Theuniondivvie said:0 -
I think the goal of the Johnson/Cummings administration has been to provoke a 'people vs the politicians' election and from that point of view perhaps today is indeed a case of a lost battle but a step towards winning the war, as others suggest. However, if parliament manages to hold off demands for an election until a delay is forced on the government, then it gets hard to see BXP staying out of the election, and with Remainers emboldened the strategy of uniting the right and splitting the left looks in jeopardy. Even more so with the Tory party starting to fracture.
My sense is the next step in this game is the government advising HMQ not to give assent to the delay bill, which will be when the constitutional shit really hits the fan.0 -
Has he given the dog a good kicking?0
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They all need to sit down, have a cup of tea and think about it for a bit.Richard_Tyndall said:
I would but they won't. Corbyn wants his election and the Remainers want revocation. Neither group will now support the WA.TOPPING said:
Maybe. But who wouldn't jump at another go at the WA?Richard_Tyndall said:
As a result of tonights vote there are now only two possible outcomes, a GE or revoke. Any chance of any sort of negotiated deal is now dead.TOPPING said:
A GE atm would see us right back to where we started ie stalemate.rcs1000 said:Can we please have an election so that we have resolution one way or another.
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Again this must have been entirely expected from the moment he started talking about "do or die" on 31st October. Sooner or later it was going to come to the crunch when this Parliament would vote to take no deal of the table.Harris_Tweed said:I think Boris is getting a sharp lesson tonight in not having it all his own way.
His disdain for people whose votes he needs has resulted in a worse-than-inevitable defeat in the HoC, which may be a useful take-out for him ahead of a general election campaign. He’ll probably have most of the (sizeable) Farage crowd eating from his hand, but a lot of moderate, business-minded people will not feel obliged to meet him halfway.
Meanwhile, the HoC looks like treating him in much the way a cat does a captive mouse. Not willing to kill him off because it gets more utility from a still-wriggling near-corpse.
If he'd wanted to compromise he could have done. This is entirely what was expected to happen and its now Parliament Vs The Poeple and Parliament has written his script for him.0 -
He is playing a poor hand pretty well.Chris said:
Would it be an exaggeration to say he holds all the cards, do you think?basicbridge said:
He hasnt folded.Anabobazina said:Andrea Leadsom to believe that Pathetic Bunter has folded on removing the whip from the Tory rebellion.
Absolutely first class bottling by Bottler Billy Bunter, Mug Punter.
It is tactics. Do you really not understand that?!0 -
The entitled establishment has again defied the will of the people tonight but their day of reckoning will soon be coming!!!Benpointer said:
This is the what the entitled establishment looks like:HYUFD said:
They have actually made Jezza look far from the voice of the people a la 2017 but now the voice of the establishment defying the will of the peopleFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!
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Very likely yesbasicbridge said:
Quite.HYUFD said:
They have actually made Jezza look far from the voice of the people a la 2017 but now the voice of the establishment defying the will of the people. He will never recover from tonight in Leave areas in the North and MidlandsFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!
Corbyn has no chance of getting close to a majority now. Odds on a Con maj have shortened over the last 24 hours.
I think we could be looking at a Lab wipeout. Losing seats in the NW and Midlands to the Cons, and in the scotland , the south, university towns and the west to the LDs.0 -
Rees-Mogg is not adapting well to ministerial office. That photo will become iconic.0
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What will you do if the people re-elect the entitled establishment?HYUFD said:
The entitled establishment has again defied the will of the people tonight but their day of reckoning will soon be coming!!!Benpointer said:
This is the what the entitled establishment looks like:HYUFD said:
They have actually made Jezza look far from the voice of the people a la 2017 but now the voice of the establishment defying the will of the peopleFoxy said:
As long as A50 is extended or revoked first, bring it on.Byronic said:How long can Corbyn credibly resist the offer of a cleansing election? Not long. Mere days, I suggest.
Bozo, Cummings and Lord Snooty have managed to make Jezza look like a statesman. Tough job, well done!
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