Joe Root: wicket was sub-standard for a test match.
That's nonsense. 303 in England second innings. 92 for nightwatchman. Ireland top order all getting a start but not pushing on in first innings. None of these point to batsman's graveyard.
What we had was England mental fragility in their first innings, Ireland showing inexperience in first innings, England posting adequate total balance n second but some not turning up, and total emotional collapse by Ireland chasing a gettable total for first Test victory. Nothing to do with the man in charge of the roller, for goodness sake.
Also the wickets (especially today) weren't due to uneven bounce / crazy spin, it was classic English overcast conditions where the ball nips around....and lots and lots of terrible shots.
Q4 adjusted from 2.2% to 1.1% seems pretty substantial.
WTF!? How do you make such a mammoth error?
Aren't those annualised figures, so the difference between growth on the quarter of 0.5% and 0.3%? That's larger than a normal revision, but not that much larger.
Some of these swings from CON to LD are phenomenal. As was the swing from Lab to PC. As I said before, some of those switching to the LDs are Remainer Tories in addition to many from Labour.
It would be interesting what Brecon & Radnorshire throws up.
Q4 adjusted from 2.2% to 1.1% seems pretty substantial.
WTF!? How do you make such a mammoth error?
Aren't those annualised figures, so the difference between growth on the quarter of 0.5% and 0.3%? That's larger than a normal revision, but not that much larger.
The Lib Dems have had half an hour to outline a five year programme... and managed to come up with one piece of legislation: PR. Which was the only well-known LD policy back in the 1980s.
You guys have a problem: we all know what you are against, Brexit. But what on earth are you for? Short and snappy, a la Tony. Don’t be shy.
You haven't been listening Stuart .....
"BOLLOCKS"
Oki doki, so far the Lib Dem pledgcard has: 1. PR 2. take a toke of this Camberwell Carrot man 3. BOLLOCKS!
What does PM Vicky Pollard do with the other 4 years 8 months in government?
Monthly alternate referenda on STV and compulsory beards for males over the age of 16.
And remember - don't forget to tip whoever's quickest in FP3 for pole.
The forecast for tomorrow is thunderstorms. It could be a long day for teams and drivers. Sunday is also looking wet, but not so severely so.
Hot and sunny today though.
Thanks for the intel - Hamilton's good in the wet I know that much.
Lewis has won all of the last eight races in which rain tyres featured. He’s definitely worth a look but I fear he’ll be evens or so if he’s close to the front of the grid, which is definitely too short for a wet race. I’d also look at safety car odds, looking for 10/1 or thereabouts for No SC.
Q4 adjusted from 2.2% to 1.1% seems pretty substantial.
WTF!? How do you make such a mammoth error?
Aren't those annualised figures, so the difference between growth on the quarter of 0.5% and 0.3%? That's larger than a normal revision, but not that much larger.
Yes, the US quarterly figures are annualised, so as you say it’s not quite the huge difference those figures suggest.
The Lib Dems have had half an hour to outline a five year programme... and managed to come up with one piece of legislation: PR. Which was the only well-known LD policy back in the 1980s.
You guys have a problem: we all know what you are against, Brexit. But what on earth are you for? Short and snappy, a la Tony. Don’t be shy.
You haven't been listening Stuart .....
"BOLLOCKS"
Oki doki, so far the Lib Dem pledgcard has: 1. PR 2. take a toke of this Camberwell Carrot man 3. BOLLOCKS!
What does PM Vicky Pollard do with the other 4 years 8 months in government?
Monthly alternate referenda on STV and compulsory beards for males over the age of 16.
And remember - don't forget to tip whoever's quickest in FP3 for pole.
The forecast for tomorrow is thunderstorms. It could be a long day for teams and drivers. Sunday is also looking wet, but not so severely so.
Hot and sunny today though.
Thanks for the intel - Hamilton's good in the wet I know that much.
Lewis has won all of the last eight races in which rain tyres featured. He’s definitely worth a look but I fear he’ll be evens or so if he’s close to the front of the grid, which is definitely too short for a wet race. I’d also look at safety car odds, looking for 10/1 or thereabouts for No SC.
Mr. Sandpit, Verstappen (each way) would be very tempting at 10 or so for the win, but that only went to top 2 last time I checked (for qualifying it's same odds but top 3).
64% of Scottish Leave voters still oppose Scottish independence even if 51% of Scottish Remain voters now back it, putting No to Scottish independence still narrowly ahead despite Brexit
I think there's quite a bit wishful thinking at work. A lot of people seem to think that the breakup of the UK would be a fitting punishment for having voted to leave the EU.
I don’t want the break up of the Union.
What I want is Brexit is seen as such an error that UK ends up rejoining the EU replete with membership of the Euro PDQ.
The reaction of Leavers would be awesome.
The break up of the UK is the most plausible way that England could end up in the Eurozone. I don't see the UK rejoining as the UK if we leave.
The break up of the union in the case of no deal Brexit is seen by a group of Scots including myself as making the best of a bad situation. I still intend to vote Tory for MSPs and council elections but need the certainty for my business. It is the movement of key voters such as businessmen and farmers which could tip the balance in the end. The Scottish economy cant afford to take a further hit based on long term notions of taking back control.
64% of Scottish Leave voters still oppose Scottish independence even if 51% of Scottish Remain voters now back it, putting No to Scottish independence still narrowly ahead despite Brexit
I think there's quite a bit wishful thinking at work. A lot of people seem to think that the breakup of the UK would be a fitting punishment for having voted to leave the EU.
I don’t want the break up of the Union.
What I want is Brexit is seen as such an error that UK ends up rejoining the EU replete with membership of the Euro PDQ.
The reaction of Leavers would be awesome.
The break up of the UK is the most plausible way that England could end up in the Eurozone. I don't see the UK rejoining as the UK if we leave.
The break up of the union in the case of no deal Brexit is seen by a group of Scots including myself as making the best of a bad situation. I still intend to vote Tory for MSPs and council elections but need the certainty for my business. It is the movement of key voters such as businessmen and farmers which could tip the balance in the end. The Scottish economy cant afford to take a further hit based on long term notions of taking back control.
The Podsmead local by-election result is very interesting. It's an example of exactly what I, and others, were arguing about in terms of tactical voting. If a few voters who had voted Lib Dem had decided to vote "tactically" for Labour, because Labour won the ward at the previous election, then the Conservatives would have sneaked it just ahead of the Lib Dems.
I think that potential for confusion gives Johnson a great chance of winning a majority.
Let me get this straight.
Podsmead (Gloucester) result: LDEM: 30.0% (+30.0) CON: 29.6% (-18.5) LAB: 18.0% (-33.9) BREX: 16.4% (+16.4) GRN: 4.3% (+4.3) UKIP: 1.6% (+1.6) Liberal Democrat GAIN from Labour.
You are basing your argument on what might have happened if people had voted differently - but didn't. Is that correct?
And remember - don't forget to tip whoever's quickest in FP3 for pole.
The forecast for tomorrow is thunderstorms. It could be a long day for teams and drivers. Sunday is also looking wet, but not so severely so.
Hot and sunny today though.
Thanks for the intel - Hamilton's good in the wet I know that much.
Lewis has won all of the last eight races in which rain tyres featured. He’s definitely worth a look but I fear he’ll be evens or so if he’s close to the front of the grid, which is definitely too short for a wet race. I’d also look at safety car odds, looking for 10/1 or thereabouts for No SC.
He's 1.77 at the moment. I might have taken evens
That’s way too short, even for a driver of Hamilton’s ability, given the weather is likely to be highly variable. I’d be tempted to initially lay at that price, then keep a careful eye on the in-play prices on Saturday and Sunday.
64% of Scottish Leave voters still oppose Scottish independence even if 51% of Scottish Remain voters now back it, putting No to Scottish independence still narrowly ahead despite Brexit
I think there's quite a bit wishful thinking at work. A lot of people seem to think that the breakup of the UK would be a fitting punishment for having voted to leave the EU.
I don’t want the break up of the Union.
What I want is Brexit is seen as such an error that UK ends up rejoining the EU replete with membership of the Euro PDQ.
The reaction of Leavers would be awesome.
The break up of the UK is the most plausible way that England could end up in the Eurozone. I don't see the UK rejoining as the UK if we leave.
The break up of the union in the case of no deal Brexit is seen by a group of Scots including myself as making the best of a bad situation. I still intend to vote Tory for MSPs and council elections but need the certainty for my business. It is the movement of key voters such as businessmen and farmers which could tip the balance in the end. The Scottish economy cant afford to take a further hit based on long term notions of taking back control.
The Scottish economy will take an even bigger hit on the break up of the union. Lay off the kool aid.
I am wondering if the plan of BJ is to extend the backstop to include Scotland under agreement that Scottish MPs don't vote on English trade issues with EC. This gets him his Brexit without hard border in Ireland.
It's an impressive run. Whether it shows more than the fact that the Lib Dems have got a well-oiled campaigning machine I'm not sure.
I'm guessing here, but I'd suspect that every party that has gone on to win a general election has done well in local elections beforehand, but that not every party that has done well in local elections has then gone on to win the general election.
In a technical sense you would call this a necessary, but not sufficient condition.
So, it's good, as far as it goes, for the Lib Dems, and bad for Labour.
Mr. Ace, that'd be demented. It'd be even worse than the backstop. It'd put the border in Great Britain and institutionalise another divide between Scotland and England/Wales.
Given how daft it is, the blonde fool might do it.
I am wondering if the plan of BJ is to extend the backstop to include Scotland under agreement that Scottish MPs don't vote on English trade issues with EC. This gets him his Brexit without hard border in Ireland.
Look we all like being Scottish but there's no need to break up the political union of the these islands of the north atalantic cus you like singing Flower of Scotland.
Just turned on the cricket thought it was rained off for today.
Did anyone seriously think England would let Ireland win this one?
How close to a record is getting 85 first time out and still winning a completed match?
According to BBC it is "the fifth-lowest first innings score to then win a Test and the lowest since 1907."
But back then you could encounter some really bad wickets - think a thin crust on a pitch of mud. The range of conditions a batsman might encounter was rather more extreme than today.
To move from sport to politics, does anyone agree that Boris’s idea of a binding commitment on EU citizens’ rights is going to be a useful way of eating up Parliamentary time in September?
He’ll propose something with clear cross-party support, and the Grievers won’t be able to amend it - as doing so would explicitly deny those rights to EU citizens in the event of no deal?
The Podsmead local by-election result is very interesting. It's an example of exactly what I, and others, were arguing about in terms of tactical voting. If a few voters who had voted Lib Dem had decided to vote "tactically" for Labour, because Labour won the ward at the previous election, then the Conservatives would have sneaked it just ahead of the Lib Dems.
I think that potential for confusion gives Johnson a great chance of winning a majority.
Let me get this straight.
Podsmead (Gloucester) result: LDEM: 30.0% (+30.0) CON: 29.6% (-18.5) LAB: 18.0% (-33.9) BREX: 16.4% (+16.4) GRN: 4.3% (+4.3) UKIP: 1.6% (+1.6) Liberal Democrat GAIN from Labour.
You are basing your argument on what might have happened if people had voted differently - but didn't. Is that correct?
Yes. Labour have dropped from first to third, so it would have been mistaken to see them as best placed to defeat the Tories.
I think they could drop to third in some of the marginal seats they currently hold, given present opinion polls.
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
Just turned on the cricket thought it was rained off for today.
Did anyone seriously think England would let Ireland win this one?
How close to a record is getting 85 first time out and still winning a completed match?
According to BBC it is "the fifth-lowest first innings score to then win a Test and the lowest since 1907."
But back then you could encounter some really bad wickets - think a thin crust on a pitch of mud. The range of conditions a batsman might encounter was rather more extreme than today.
England actually won the match in which they made their lowest ever score of 45.
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
The Courts do hand down severe sentences for people who try to undermine the proper administration of justice.
As far as I know, he did not claim diminished responsibility.
And remember - don't forget to tip whoever's quickest in FP3 for pole.
The forecast for tomorrow is thunderstorms. It could be a long day for teams and drivers. Sunday is also looking wet, but not so severely so.
Hot and sunny today though.
No one other than Hamilton has won a wet race since 2014.
Verstappen was having a good race in the wet in Brazil a year or so ago - back when I was a pleb and had to listen on the radio so can't remember if he was leading or not.
I am wondering if the plan of BJ is to extend the backstop to include Scotland under agreement that Scottish MPs don't vote on English trade issues with EC. This gets him his Brexit without hard border in Ireland.
How does “Parliament stop no deal”? What are mechanics of how this comes about?
VONC if nothing else works. It's clear that some Tories will vote to bring down their own government if its the only way of stopping no deal. Though I suspect something slightly less drastic will be cooked up in Sept/Oct. I'm not an expert in procedure but at least 400 of 650 MPs, a huge majority in the Lords and a large majority of voters oppose no deal - the politics of that are clear. The Commons will find a way I have no doubt.
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
Entirely well deserved. He obstructed justice, led the police on several wild goose chases, harmed in an appallingly cruel way those who were wrongly accused and diminished the suffering of those who have been genuinely abused.
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
The Courts do hand down severe sentences for people who try to undermine the proper administration of justice.
As far as I know, he did not claim diminished responsibility.
Going to be an interesting judgement to read.
Also serious questions to answer from a lot of people involved with ‘Nick’ over the years - yes, including Tom Watson.
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
Entirely well deserved. He obstructed justice, led the police on several wild goose chases, harmed in an appallingly cruel way those who were wrongly accused and diminished the suffering of those who have been genuinely abused.
Yeah: 18 years is about right.
Tom Watson should be tried as an accomplice, be given half of that.
And remember - don't forget to tip whoever's quickest in FP3 for pole.
The forecast for tomorrow is thunderstorms. It could be a long day for teams and drivers. Sunday is also looking wet, but not so severely so.
Hot and sunny today though.
No one other than Hamilton has won a wet race since 2014.
Verstappen was having a good race in the wet in Brazil a year or so ago - back when I was a pleb and had to listen on the radio so can't remember if he was leading or not.
He came from the back to the podium, but Lewis still won the race.
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
The Courts do hand down severe sentences for people who try to undermine the proper administration of justice.
As far as I know, he did not claim diminished responsibility.
It is difficult, because anyone contending he is sane is faced with the question: "OK, so give me just one example of a sane motive for doing what he did." There was afaik no suggestion of blackmail.
I would not be amazed if there were a kernel of truth underlying his claims (emphatically *not* involving any of the individuals named by him) and this was an attempt to get some kind of retribution from the universe.
How does “Parliament stop no deal”? What are mechanics of how this comes about?
VONC if nothing else works. It's clear that some Tories will vote to bring down their own government if its the only way of stopping no deal. Though I suspect something slightly less drastic will be cooked up in Sept/Oct. I'm not an expert in procedure but at least 400 of 650 MPs, a huge majority in the Lords and a large majority of voters oppose no deal - the politics of that are clear. The Commons will find a way I have no doubt.
Bringing down their own government isn't enough unless they're prepared to install a new government . . . and Corbyn looks in no mood to endorse anybody else, not when he can either let the Tories own a crash out and still get his election or be installed himself as the only alternative.
So are there enough Tories and other MPs willing to install Corbyn as PM?
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
The Courts do hand down severe sentences for people who try to undermine the proper administration of justice.
As far as I know, he did not claim diminished responsibility.
Going to be an interesting judgement to read.
Also serious questions to answer from a lot of people involved with ‘Nick’ over the years - yes, including Tom Watson.
Exaro have rather more questions to answer than Watson. And may also have committed offences as well.
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
Entirely well deserved. He obstructed justice, led the police on several wild goose chases, harmed in an appallingly cruel way those who were wrongly accused and diminished the suffering of those who have been genuinely abused.
Yeah: 18 years is about right.
Tom Watson should be tried as an accomplice, be given half of that.
He is now trying to claim that he had nothing to do with anything beyond encouraging him to contact the plod....him standing up in HoC talking about VIP paedo rings and being on the news seemingly every other day about this must be my imagination.
64% of Scottish Leave voters still oppose Scottish independence even if 51% of Scottish Remain voters now back it, putting No to Scottish independence still narrowly ahead despite Brexit
By sticking to polls with the 'standard' referendum question, that neatly excludes the only poll (Panelbase) to specifically put Indyref2 in the context of No-Deal and WDA Brexit scenarios. This poll put the Scottish Remain voters for independence at 63/62% respectively.
And remember - don't forget to tip whoever's quickest in FP3 for pole.
The forecast for tomorrow is thunderstorms. It could be a long day for teams and drivers. Sunday is also looking wet, but not so severely so.
Hot and sunny today though.
No one other than Hamilton has won a wet race since 2014.
Verstappen was having a good race in the wet in Brazil a year or so ago - back when I was a pleb and had to listen on the radio so can't remember if he was leading or not.
He came from the back to the podium, but Lewis still won the race.
might be worth a punt if it does rain then.
I've kept my F1 betting on break-even for a good few years just by backing Hamilton so it would be quite a change of style for me.
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
Entirely well deserved. He obstructed justice, led the police on several wild goose chases, harmed in an appallingly cruel way those who were wrongly accused and diminished the suffering of those who have been genuinely abused.
Yeah: 18 years is about right.
Interesting comment, thanks. To a lay person it seemed harsh, even given the obvious gravity of the offences.
Oh, and many congratulations on the well-deserved praise for your excellent piece the other day
Just turned on the cricket thought it was rained off for today.
Did anyone seriously think England would let Ireland win this one?
How close to a record is getting 85 first time out and still winning a completed match?
According to BBC it is "the fifth-lowest first innings score to then win a Test and the lowest since 1907."
But back then you could encounter some really bad wickets - think a thin crust on a pitch of mud. The range of conditions a batsman might encounter was rather more extreme than today.
England actually won the match in which they made their lowest ever score of 45.
How does “Parliament stop no deal”? What are mechanics of how this comes about?
VONC if nothing else works. It's clear that some Tories will vote to bring down their own government if its the only way of stopping no deal. Though I suspect something slightly less drastic will be cooked up in Sept/Oct. I'm not an expert in procedure but at least 400 of 650 MPs, a huge majority in the Lords and a large majority of voters oppose no deal - the politics of that are clear. The Commons will find a way I have no doubt.
Bringing down their own government isn't enough unless they're prepared to install a new government . . . and Corbyn looks in no mood to endorse anybody else, not when he can either let the Tories own a crash out and still get his election or be installed himself as the only alternative.
So are there enough Tories and other MPs willing to install Corbyn as PM?
Why not? He won't be able to pass any legislation they don't approve of and can vonc him any time
Just turned on the cricket thought it was rained off for today.
Did anyone seriously think England would let Ireland win this one?
How close to a record is getting 85 first time out and still winning a completed match?
According to BBC it is "the fifth-lowest first innings score to then win a Test and the lowest since 1907."
But back then you could encounter some really bad wickets - think a thin crust on a pitch of mud. The range of conditions a batsman might encounter was rather more extreme than today.
England actually won the match in which they made their lowest ever score of 45.
My PT was talking this morning about the really hot weather and got onto a discussion, a monologue really, about global warming. He then talked about how this might lead to the gulf stream breaking down (I understand that this is in fact quite unlikely but when you're in the middle of a set of split squats you don't feel inclined to argue). Pursuing his thesis, he suggested that the earth may have stabilising mechanisms to counteract our actions.
Recovering between sets, I rummaged around the lumber room of my memory and retrieved the Gaia hypothesis, which is the idea that the earth is a single self-correcting system. He had not heard of this before and was intrigued.
I got back to my desk and refreshed my memory about the Gaia hypothesis. It was originally proposed by James Lovelock.
James Lovelock is 100 today. I have not thought of him or his theory for at least 20 years. For him to come back to mind today on his 100th birthday is quite a coincidence.
And remember - don't forget to tip whoever's quickest in FP3 for pole.
The forecast for tomorrow is thunderstorms. It could be a long day for teams and drivers. Sunday is also looking wet, but not so severely so.
Hot and sunny today though.
No one other than Hamilton has won a wet race since 2014.
Verstappen was having a good race in the wet in Brazil a year or so ago - back when I was a pleb and had to listen on the radio so can't remember if he was leading or not.
He came from the back to the podium, but Lewis still won the race.
might be worth a punt if it does rain then.
I've kept my F1 betting on break-even for a good few years just by backing Hamilton so it would be quite a change of style for me.
Oh he’s certainly the favourite, just not odds-on with a weekend of thunderstorms forecast.
One mistimed red flag and he might start at the back, to be involved in someone else’s accident during the race.
My PT was talking this morning about the really hot weather and got onto a discussion, a monologue really, about global warming. He then talked about how this might lead to the gulf stream breaking down (I understand that this is in fact quite unlikely but when you're in the middle of a set of split squats you don't feel inclined to argue). Pursuing his thesis, he suggested that the earth may have stabilising mechanisms to counteract our actions.
Recovering between sets, I rummaged around the lumber room of my memory and retrieved the Gaia hypothesis, which is the idea that the earth is a single self-correcting system. He had not heard of this before and was intrigued.
I got back to my desk and refreshed my memory about the Gaia hypothesis. It was originally proposed by James Lovelock.
James Lovelock is 100 today. I have not thought of him or his theory for at least 20 years. For him to come back to mind today on his 100th birthday is quite a coincidence.
Anyway, happy birthday Mr Lovelock.
And if you listen to him these days he remains perfectly lucid (notwithstanding your view of Gaia Theory).
And remember - don't forget to tip whoever's quickest in FP3 for pole.
The forecast for tomorrow is thunderstorms. It could be a long day for teams and drivers. Sunday is also looking wet, but not so severely so.
Hot and sunny today though.
No one other than Hamilton has won a wet race since 2014.
Verstappen was having a good race in the wet in Brazil a year or so ago - back when I was a pleb and had to listen on the radio so can't remember if he was leading or not.
He came from the back to the podium, but Lewis still won the race.
might be worth a punt if it does rain then.
I've kept my F1 betting on break-even for a good few years just by backing Hamilton so it would be quite a change of style for me.
Oh he’s certainly the favourite, just not odds-on with a weekend of thunderstorms forecast.
One mistimed red flag and he might start at the back, to be involved in someone else’s accident during the race.
As I said - I might have taken evens - we're not in disagreement - and even Bottas fan Morris likes my tactics
The Podsmead local by-election result is very interesting. It's an example of exactly what I, and others, were arguing about in terms of tactical voting. If a few voters who had voted Lib Dem had decided to vote "tactically" for Labour, because Labour won the ward at the previous election, then the Conservatives would have sneaked it just ahead of the Lib Dems.
I think that potential for confusion gives Johnson a great chance of winning a majority.
Let me get this straight.
Podsmead (Gloucester) result: LDEM: 30.0% (+30.0) CON: 29.6% (-18.5) LAB: 18.0% (-33.9) BREX: 16.4% (+16.4) GRN: 4.3% (+4.3) UKIP: 1.6% (+1.6) Liberal Democrat GAIN from Labour.
You are basing your argument on what might have happened if people had voted differently - but didn't. Is that correct?
Yes. Labour have dropped from first to third, so it would have been mistaken to see them as best placed to defeat the Tories.
I think they could drop to third in some of the marginal seats they currently hold, given present opinion polls.
This council seat was probably a bad example to choose because the LibDems didn't have a candidate last time. This makes their achievement even more impressive. I think you're right that we could see some really interesting results in a General Election, but not just on the Labour side.
Just turned on the cricket thought it was rained off for today.
Did anyone seriously think England would let Ireland win this one?
How close to a record is getting 85 first time out and still winning a completed match?
According to BBC it is "the fifth-lowest first innings score to then win a Test and the lowest since 1907."
But back then you could encounter some really bad wickets - think a thin crust on a pitch of mud. The range of conditions a batsman might encounter was rather more extreme than today.
England actually won the match in which they made their lowest ever score of 45.
I have to admit I'm a bit confused about the lib dem position. Labour wants to try to renegotiate a softer Brexit, then put that to a referendum. As far as I understand the difference with the lib dems is they want to do just the referendum, not the renegotiation.
Given that, if Leave wins this second referendum, do the lib dems want us to leave under May's deal? If so, surely that makes Labour the more remainy party. And if not, what deal would we be leaving under? One that has no democratic mandate because they decided to vote for it before deciding what it was, which is surely the mistake the Tories made that put us in this mess in the first place.
My PT was talking this morning about the really hot weather and got onto a discussion, a monologue really, about global warming. He then talked about how this might lead to the gulf stream breaking down (I understand that this is in fact quite unlikely but when you're in the middle of a set of split squats you don't feel inclined to argue). Pursuing his thesis, he suggested that the earth may have stabilising mechanisms to counteract our actions.
Recovering between sets, I rummaged around the lumber room of my memory and retrieved the Gaia hypothesis, which is the idea that the earth is a single self-correcting system. He had not heard of this before and was intrigued.
I got back to my desk and refreshed my memory about the Gaia hypothesis. It was originally proposed by James Lovelock.
James Lovelock is 100 today. I have not thought of him or his theory for at least 20 years. For him to come back to mind today on his 100th birthday is quite a coincidence.
Mr. Thompson, it's entirely legitimate if they believe May's deal to be better than no deal.
Mr. Sandpit, yeah, from last year. I got 9 on Hamilton amass 92+ wins. He's about 11 shy at the moment. I expect to collect in the first half of next year.
How does “Parliament stop no deal”? What are mechanics of how this comes about?
VONC if nothing else works. It's clear that some Tories will vote to bring down their own government if its the only way of stopping no deal. Though I suspect something slightly less drastic will be cooked up in Sept/Oct. I'm not an expert in procedure but at least 400 of 650 MPs, a huge majority in the Lords and a large majority of voters oppose no deal - the politics of that are clear. The Commons will find a way I have no doubt.
Bringing down their own government isn't enough unless they're prepared to install a new government . . . and Corbyn looks in no mood to endorse anybody else, not when he can either let the Tories own a crash out and still get his election or be installed himself as the only alternative.
So are there enough Tories and other MPs willing to install Corbyn as PM?
That is the key question.
IMO, the number of Tories for Corbyn would be in very low single figures.
Ooh, what a surprise! A Guardian hit-piece on Dominic Cummings, that could mostly have been written three years ago after he masterminded the Vote Leave campaign.
Mr. Thompson, it's entirely legitimate if they believe May's deal to be better than no deal.
Mr. Sandpit, yeah, from last year. I got 9 on Hamilton amass 92+ wins. He's about 11 shy at the moment. I expect to collect in the first half of next year.
That’s an awesome bet, well done!
P2 finishing early, after Pierre Gasly gives his mechanics a very long evening.
ttps://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1154746796352122881 18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
That’s a severe sentence! Did he not claim mental illness or diminished responsibility? Even if he did what he did maliciously, he didn’t actually kill anyone.
The Courts do hand down severe sentences for people who try to undermine the proper administration of justice.
As far as I know, he did not claim diminished responsibility.
It is difficult, because anyone contending he is sane is faced with the question: "OK, so give me just one example of a sane motive for doing what he did." There was afaik no suggestion of blackmail.
I would not be amazed if there were a kernel of truth underlying his claims (emphatically *not* involving any of the individuals named by him) and this was an attempt to get some kind of retribution from the universe.
Two young women told lies about Stefan Kizcko that got him wrongly imprisoned for murder. For some reason, they were never prosecuted.
Some people just seem to take pleasure from making purely malicious allegations against innocent people.
All these "principled" resignations are from people who served under "No deal is better than a bad deal" May for years.
Why is no deal 2.5 years into the 2 year window of Article 50 so unacceptable, but it was acceptable to state as your option for years?
Or was it just on an assumption that May was lying to everyone and would never follow through whereas Boris might be telling the truth?
May's No Deal threat was only ever in the absence of a deal, not in the absence of a majority. Read the manifesto.
No, it was in the absence of a good deal. Parliament has three times dismissed the deal as a bad deal and now the PM has killed it off, so there is no deal. No point flogging the dead horse anymore.
Ooh, what a surprise! A Guardian hit-piece on Dominic Cummings, that could mostly have been written three years ago after he masterminded the Vote Leave campaign.
The Vote Leave campaign is one of the main reasons that Brexit has been a complete car crash for the last three years. Nigel Farage has far more political nous than Dominic Cummings.
All these "principled" resignations are from people who served under "No deal is better than a bad deal" May for years.
Why is no deal 2.5 years into the 2 year window of Article 50 so unacceptable, but it was acceptable to state as your option for years?
Or was it just on an assumption that May was lying to everyone and would never follow through whereas Boris might be telling the truth?
It's a good question. I think it was that once reality hit May it became obvious that the rhetoric couldn't be sustained. But yes, it was a f***ing stupid thing to have said.
My PT was talking this morning about the really hot weather and got onto a discussion, a monologue really, about global warming. He then talked about how this might lead to the gulf stream breaking down (I understand that this is in fact quite unlikely but when you're in the middle of a set of split squats you don't feel inclined to argue). Pursuing his thesis, he suggested that the earth may have stabilising mechanisms to counteract our actions.
Recovering between sets, I rummaged around the lumber room of my memory and retrieved the Gaia hypothesis, which is the idea that the earth is a single self-correcting system. He had not heard of this before and was intrigued.
I got back to my desk and refreshed my memory about the Gaia hypothesis. It was originally proposed by James Lovelock.
James Lovelock is 100 today. I have not thought of him or his theory for at least 20 years. For him to come back to mind today on his 100th birthday is quite a coincidence.
Anyway, happy birthday Mr Lovelock.
Spooky. This is my favourite personal coincidence. I once inexplicably forgot my cashpoint PIN; however, the friend I was with was able to tell me it because he'd looked over my shoulder and memorized it on a previous occasion (for some strange reason). Anyway, with cash in hand we went to the pub. As we sat down with our drinks 'Roxanne' by The Police was playing on the jukebox. The disc number/track number was also being displayed. It was the same number as my PIN.
Ooh, what a surprise! A Guardian hit-piece on Dominic Cummings, that could mostly have been written three years ago after he masterminded the Vote Leave campaign.
The Vote Leave campaign is one of the main reasons that Brexit has been a complete car crash for the last three years. Nigel Farage has far more political nous than Dominic Cummings.
That's just sour grapes because Vote Leave ran circles around your side and won.
Ooh, what a surprise! A Guardian hit-piece on Dominic Cummings, that could mostly have been written three years ago after he masterminded the Vote Leave campaign.
I wouldn't call that a hit piece. It's balanced and fair.
All these "principled" resignations are from people who served under "No deal is better than a bad deal" May for years.
Why is no deal 2.5 years into the 2 year window of Article 50 so unacceptable, but it was acceptable to state as your option for years?
Or was it just on an assumption that May was lying to everyone and would never follow through whereas Boris might be telling the truth?
It's a good question. I think it was that once reality hit May it became obvious that the rhetoric couldn't be sustained. But yes, it was a f***ing stupid thing to have said.
But she kept up with the rhetoric until she left. Fair enough to change your mind, but was she lying when she continued to say it even recently she was still insisting no deal must be an option.
Ooh, what a surprise! A Guardian hit-piece on Dominic Cummings, that could mostly have been written three years ago after he masterminded the Vote Leave campaign.
The Vote Leave campaign is one of the main reasons that Brexit has been a complete car crash for the last three years. Nigel Farage has far more political nous than Dominic Cummings.
That's just sour grapes because Vote Leave ran circles around your side and won.
I was disenfranchised in the referendum. Cameron's Remain was a Eurosceptic campaign.
Ooh, what a surprise! A Guardian hit-piece on Dominic Cummings, that could mostly have been written three years ago after he masterminded the Vote Leave campaign.
The Vote Leave campaign is one of the main reasons that Brexit has been a complete car crash for the last three years. Nigel Farage has far more political nous than Dominic Cummings.
The Vote Leave campaign operated under the parameters of the question and legislation they were given by the 2015 Parliament. It’s not a campaigner’s fault that Parliament left the question so open-ended.
All these "principled" resignations are from people who served under "No deal is better than a bad deal" May for years.
Why is no deal 2.5 years into the 2 year window of Article 50 so unacceptable, but it was acceptable to state as your option for years?
Or was it just on an assumption that May was lying to everyone and would never follow through whereas Boris might be telling the truth?
It's a good question. I think it was that once reality hit May it became obvious that the rhetoric couldn't be sustained. But yes, it was a f***ing stupid thing to have said.
But she kept up with the rhetoric until she left. Fair enough to change your mind, but was she lying when she continued to say it even recently she was still insisting no deal must be an option.
Ooh, what a surprise! A Guardian hit-piece on Dominic Cummings, that could mostly have been written three years ago after he masterminded the Vote Leave campaign.
The Vote Leave campaign is one of the main reasons that Brexit has been a complete car crash for the last three years. Nigel Farage has far more political nous than Dominic Cummings.
The Vote Leave campaign operates under the parameters of the question and legislation they were given by the 2015 Parliament. It’s not a campaigner’s fault that Parliament left the question so open-ended.
Vote Leave came up with a very clear, clean and straightforward way of leaving. Lets hope we finally do it now.
Ooh, what a surprise! A Guardian hit-piece on Dominic Cummings, that could mostly have been written three years ago after he masterminded the Vote Leave campaign.
The Vote Leave campaign is one of the main reasons that Brexit has been a complete car crash for the last three years. Nigel Farage has far more political nous than Dominic Cummings.
The Vote Leave campaign operates under the parameters of the question and legislation they were given by the 2015 Parliament. It’s not a campaigner’s fault that Parliament left the question so open-ended.
Vote Leave came up with a very clear, clean and straightforward way of leaving. Lets hope we finally do it now.
You sure about that? This was their laughable 'plan':
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It would be interesting what Brecon & Radnorshire throws up.
As with others, I agree today's results, in consistent sun with significantly higher temperatures, mean very little.
The break up of the union in the case of no deal Brexit is seen by a group of Scots including myself as making the best of a bad situation. I still intend to vote Tory for MSPs and council elections but need the certainty for my business. It is the movement of key voters such as businessmen and farmers which could tip the balance in the end. The Scottish economy cant afford to take a further hit based on long term notions of taking back control.
Construct where none currently exist.
And where they do, construct more.
Podsmead (Gloucester) result:
LDEM: 30.0% (+30.0)
CON: 29.6% (-18.5)
LAB: 18.0% (-33.9)
BREX: 16.4% (+16.4)
GRN: 4.3% (+4.3)
UKIP: 1.6% (+1.6)
Liberal Democrat GAIN from Labour.
You are basing your argument on what might have happened if people had voted differently - but didn't.
Is that correct?
Luckily compulsory speed restrictors on vehicles will soon make physical bumps and barriers redundant.
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1154746073388331012?s=19
In a technical sense you would call this a necessary, but not sufficient condition.
So, it's good, as far as it goes, for the Lib Dems, and bad for Labour.
I think I need a lie down .........
Given how daft it is, the blonde fool might do it.
He’ll propose something with clear cross-party support, and the Grievers won’t be able to amend it - as doing so would explicitly deny those rights to EU citizens in the event of no deal?
18 years....ouch. Paging Tom Watson.
I think they could drop to third in some of the marginal seats they currently hold, given present opinion polls.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/17702/scorecard/62420/australia-vs-england-1st-test-england-tour-of-australia-1886-87
As far as I know, he did not claim diminished responsibility.
(IANAL, obvs)
Yeah: 18 years is about right.
Her being retired, out of Westminster, out of Downing Street and enjoying the cricket is a very good luck charm for the nation.
Also serious questions to answer from a lot of people involved with ‘Nick’ over the years - yes, including Tom Watson.
I would not be amazed if there were a kernel of truth underlying his claims (emphatically *not* involving any of the individuals named by him) and this was an attempt to get some kind of retribution from the universe.
So are there enough Tories and other MPs willing to install Corbyn as PM?
I've kept my F1 betting on break-even for a good few years just by backing Hamilton so it would be quite a change of style for me.
Oh, and many congratulations on the well-deserved praise for your excellent piece the other day
Recovering between sets, I rummaged around the lumber room of my memory and retrieved the Gaia hypothesis, which is the idea that the earth is a single self-correcting system. He had not heard of this before and was intrigued.
I got back to my desk and refreshed my memory about the Gaia hypothesis. It was originally proposed by James Lovelock.
James Lovelock is 100 today. I have not thought of him or his theory for at least 20 years. For him to come back to mind today on his 100th birthday is quite a coincidence.
Anyway, happy birthday Mr Lovelock.
One mistimed red flag and he might start at the back, to be involved in someone else’s accident during the race.
There's more potential for a big change to the pecking order when the regulations are significantly changed, though.
Why is no deal 2.5 years into the 2 year window of Article 50 so unacceptable, but it was acceptable to state as your option for years?
Or was it just on an assumption that May was lying to everyone and would never follow through whereas Boris might be telling the truth?
I think you're right that we could see some really interesting results in a General Election, but not just on the Labour side.
That seems unusual too!
Given that, if Leave wins this second referendum, do the lib dems want us to leave under May's deal? If so, surely that makes Labour the more remainy party. And if not, what deal would we be leaving under? One that has no democratic mandate because they decided to vote for it before deciding what it was, which is surely the mistake the Tories made that put us in this mess in the first place.
If you'd opted in to receive emails from the Conservatives under May or Cameron that will continue through to Boris.
Mr. Sandpit, yeah, from last year. I got 9 on Hamilton amass 92+ wins. He's about 11 shy at the moment. I expect to collect in the first half of next year.
IMO, the number of Tories for Corbyn would be in very low single figures.
P2 finishing early, after Pierre Gasly gives his mechanics a very long evening.
Some people just seem to take pleasure from making purely malicious allegations against innocent people.
https://twitter.com/vote_leave/status/744138949384278016