Now that we have two, non-YouGov polls without a Brexit Party lead it's interesting to note that there has only been one non-YouGov poll to show the Brexit Party with a poll lead.
The Conservative Party may have been panicked into electing Johnson as Prime Minister on the basis of a quirk of the opinion polls. This is quite remarkable.
Survation has the Tories tied with Labour under Johnson today but 3% behind Labour with Hunt so wrong
That is a miniscule difference. All you have proved is that Boris Johnson is currently more recognisable.
Wrong again.
Boris picks up more Brexit Party voters than he loses to the LDs.
Hunt loses voters to the Brexit Party without picking up any new voters from the LDs.
Hunt is also Foreign Secretary, hardly unrecognisable
That is a little rude for such a polite chap as you, but no, not wrong, because as I say Johnson is very highly recognisable, probably doubly so when compared to Hunt.
I will therefore ask again, the key question that needs to be asked: Please explain to us, other than your belief that he might be better at winning elections, WHY does the polemicist Mr Johnson have what it takes to be the Chief Executive of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?
It may have escaped you, but being a Chief Executive requires a bit more than just spouting populist drivel in puerile newspaper articles.
And being PM and winning an election and delivering Brexit requires more than being a cold fish businessman like Hunt, it actually requires some passion and belief in Brexit as Boris has
I refer you to my previous answer on Father Christmas and flat earthers. Please answer the question I would like to know. What skills does the celebrity polemicist Mr Johnson have that will make him a good Chief Executive?
We are not electing a chief executive we are electing a Prime Minister with charisma, conviction and belief who wants to deliver Brexit and has the campaigning skills to win a general election which Boris has
And thus deliver thebrexit which will probably destroy the Union and the Conservative and Unionist Party. But when the alternative is a swift decline and replacement by Farage and the Brexit Party, i can see the appeal
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Now that we have two, non-YouGov polls without a Brexit Party lead it's interesting to note that there has only been one non-YouGov poll to show the Brexit Party with a poll lead.
The Conservative Party may have been panicked into electing Johnson as Prime Minister on the basis of a quirk of the opinion polls. This is quite remarkable.
Survation has the Tories tied with Labour under Johnson today but 3% behind Labour with Hunt so wrong
That's the difference you're basing your support for Boris on?
I know die-hard Remainers who tend to be present on PB in large numbers want all 3 main parties to again have Remainers as Leader but I actually want a Leaver now who will deliver Brexit
Boris Johnson is not a "Leaver". He is an egotist. He saw that pretending to support leaving the UK as best way to support his egotistical ambitions. He would vociferously claim that Father Christmas was real and the earth was flat if he thought that enough Tory members believed such propositions. He is a serial liar, but worse than that he does not have the most fundamental skills to do the job which he is applying for.
Boris was key to Leave winning, had Farage rather than Boris been the Leave frontman Leave would have narrowly lost rather than narrowly won
You are stating speculation as fact rather than what it is; speculation.
Please answer the question on why Boris will make a good Chief Executive. Perhaps like many who are voting for him, you don't know what makes a good CE? That is OK, but please say so.
You are yet again assuming being elected a PM or President merely requires being a CEO, that is wrong, ask Mitt Romney
No, I do not. It requires being a CEO+++. Boris is just a celebrity- - -
Now that we have two, non-YouGov polls without a Brexit Party lead it's interesting to note that there has only been one non-YouGov poll to show the Brexit Party with a poll lead.
The Conservative Party may have been panicked into electing Johnson as Prime Minister on the basis of a quirk of the opinion polls. This is quite remarkable.
Survation has the Tories tied with Labour under Johnson today but 3% behind Labour with Hunt so wrong
That's the difference you're basing your support for Boris on?
I know die-hard Remainers who tend to be present on PB in large numbers want all 3 main parties to again have Remainers as Leader but I actually want a Leaver now who will deliver Brexit
Boris Johnson is not a "Leaver". He is an egotist. He saw that pretending to support leaving the UK as best way to support his egotistical ambitions. He would vociferously claim that Father Christmas was real and the earth was flat if he thought that enough Tory members believed such propositions. He is a serial liar, but worse than that he does not have the most fundamental skills to do the job which he is applying for.
Boris was key to Leave winning, had Farage rather than Boris been the Leave frontman Leave would have narrowly lost rather than narrowly won
You are stating speculation as fact rather than what it is; speculation.
Please answer the question on why Boris will make a good Chief Executive. Perhaps like many who are voting for him, you don't know what makes a good CE? That is OK, but please say so.
You are yet again assuming being elected a PM or President merely requires being a CEO, that is wrong, ask Mitt Romney
No, I do not. It requires being a CEO+++. Boris is just a celebrity- - -
No it doesn't, otherwise Dewey would have beaten Truman, Gore beaten Bush, Romney beaten Obama, Ford beaten Carter and here May clearly beaten Corbyn, Heath always beaten Wilson and Clegg beaten Miliband and Cameron
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Either you haven’t read or haven’t understood Nigel’s post. Have another try.
Mitt Romney would probably have been an excellent President. That he wasn't elected doesn't detract from that. The only thing you can claim for Johnson is that he *might* have a better chance of winning an election. Albeit of the two candidates he is the more likely to have to fight one in the immediate future. But, HYUFD, you've said absolutely nothing about why he would be any good at doing the job. Even the one thing you think he would deliver is doubtful given that his stated means of achieving it is based on absolute nonsense.
And in relation to the policy that you've made up for him - what happens if the Northern Ireland electorate reject the backstop???
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
Not now they aren't. Many people have realised what a disaster Brexit will be.
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
+1
I agree with you 100% about Boris!
I dont think people being interested in what Boris says should be mistaken for charisma. As soon as he has to make a decision people will turn against him. He is not a salesman or persuader IMO. He will fall flat on his face as he he blunders in front of the camaras.
Now that we have two, non-YouGov polls without a Brexit Party lead it's interesting to note that there has only been one non-YouGov poll to show the Brexit Party with a poll lead.
The Conservative Party may have been panicked into electing Johnson as Prime Minister on the basis of a quirk of the opinion polls. This is quite remarkable.
Survation has the Tories tied with Labour under Johnson today but 3% behind Labour with Hunt so wrong
That is a miniscule difference. All you have proved is that Boris Johnson is currently more recognisable.
Wrong again.
Boris picks up more Brexit Party voters than he loses to the LDs.
Hunt loses voters to the Brexit Party without picking up any new voters from the LDs.
Hunt is also Foreign Secretary, hardly unrecognisable
That is a little rude for such a polite chap as you, but no, not wrong, because as I say Johnson is very highly recognisable, probably doubly so when compared to Hunt.
I will therefore ask again, the key question that needs to be asked: Please explain to us, other than your belief that he might be better at winning elections, WHY does the polemicist Mr Johnson have what it takes to be the Chief Executive of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?
It may have escaped you, but being a Chief Executive requires a bit more than just spouting populist drivel in puerile newspaper articles.
And being PM and winning an election and delivering Brexit requires more than being a cold fish businessman like Hunt, it actually requires some passion and belief in Brexit as Boris has
I refer you to my previous answer on Father Christmas and flat earthers. Please answer the question I would like to know. What skills does the celebrity polemicist Mr Johnson have that will make him a good Chief Executive?
We are not electing a chief executive we are electing a Prime Minister with charisma, conviction and belief who wants to deliver Brexit and has the campaigning skills to win a general election which Boris has
God you sound more like Comical Ali as each day passes.
Now that we have two, non-YouGov polls without a Brexit Party lead it's interesting to note that there has only been one non-YouGov poll to show the Brexit Party with a poll lead.
The Conservative Party may have been panicked into electing Johnson as Prime Minister on the basis of a quirk of the opinion polls. This is quite remarkable.
Survation has the Tories tied with Labour under Johnson today but 3% behind Labour with Hunt so wrong
That is a miniscule difference. All you have proved is that Boris Johnson is currently more recognisable.
Wrong again.
Boris picks up more Brexit Party voters than he loses to the LDs.
Hunt loses voters to the Brexit Party without picking up any new voters from the LDs.
Hunt is also Foreign Secretary, hardly unrecognisable
That is a little rude for such a polite chap as you, but no, not wrong, because as I say Johnson is very highly recognisable, probably doubly so when compared to Hunt.
I will therefore ask again, the key question that needs to be asked: Please explain to us, other than your belief that he might be better at winning elections, WHY does the polemicist Mr Johnson have what it takes to be the Chief Executive of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?
It may have escaped you, but being a Chief Executive requires a bit more than just spouting populist drivel in puerile newspaper articles.
And being PM and winning an election and delivering Brexit requires more than being a cold fish businessman like Hunt, it actually requires some passion and belief in Brexit as Boris has
I refer you to my previous answer on Father Christmas and flat earthers. Please answer the question I would like to know. What skills does the celebrity polemicist Mr Johnson have that will make him a good Chief Executive?
We are not electing a chief executive we are electing a Prime Minister with charisma, conviction and belief who wants to deliver Brexit and has the campaigning skills to win a general election which Boris has
God you sound more like Comical Ali as each day passes.
His argument appears to be that because Boris has so successfully hoodwinked Tory MPs and most Tory members, he’ll surely be able to hoodwink the rest of us.
Mitt Romney would probably have been an excellent President. That he wasn't elected doesn't detract from that. The only thing you can claim for Johnson is that he *might* have a better chance of winning an election. Albeit of the two candidates he is the more likely to have to fight one in the immediate future. But, HYUFD, you've said absolutely nothing about why he would be any good at doing the job. Even the one thing you think he would deliver is doubtful given that his stated means of achieving it is based on absolute nonsense.
And in relation to the policy that you've made up for him - what happens if the Northern Ireland electorate reject the backstop???
If he gets the job Boris also has the belief in Brexit May and Hunt do not really have to deliver Brexit and a GB FTA with the EU out of the Single Market and Customs Union.
On the backstop if Northern Ireland voters reject it and vote for a hard border with the Republic of Ireland that is Barnier and Varadkar's problem not Boris' but it is likely Northern Ireland voters will vote for it given the polling there
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I am talking about who will be best as PM not Brexit!
Jeremy Hunt is articulate, well balanced and genuine.
Boris is a spoilt brat who is out of touch according to his partner. You dont get a better evaluation of someones character than by a partner...
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
My main problem with Boris is that there is no depth to him at all. It is clear that he does not believe a word of what he says. It's great not to take yourself too seriously but my sense of him is that he takes NOTHING seriously. There is nothing there other than a bluff entertaining persona, a decent vocabulary, and a gargantuan sense of entitlement.
Don't get me wrong, he's not pure poison like Trump, definitely not, but we really ought to be able to do better than this for Prime Minister.
LOL, we want to fund a 3rd runway for London like we want a hole in the head and given Tories hide in the back of blacked out range rovers and never see a member of the public one can only imagine the well wishers are the 13 brown noser MPs and the Colonel
+1 - given a choice between flying via London or via Schiphol give me Schiphol any day...
Terminal 4 at Heathrow, yes. Terminal 5 at Heathrow, absolutely not.
And I can get there in 45 minutes from where I live.
Terminal 5 is superb for British Airways business.
It takes half a day to get there from Scotland though so why any idiot would think we would want another runway is not right in the tattie.
To add to all the chaos over Brexit and Boris, it is reported today that Corbyn and his cabal are considering levying capital gains tax on all sales of private homes
What have we all done to deserve this abject failure of our politicians
Now that we have two, non-YouGov polls without a Brexit Party lead it's interesting to note that there has only been one non-YouGov poll to show the Brexit Party with a poll lead.
The Conservative Party may have been panicked into electing Johnson as Prime Minister on the basis of a quirk of the opinion polls. This is quite remarkable.
Survation has the Tories tied with Labour under Johnson today but 3% behind Labour with Hunt so wrong
That is a miniscule difference. All you have proved is that Boris Johnson is currently more recognisable.
Wrong again.
Boris picks up more Brexit Party voters than he loses to the LDs.
Hunt loses voters to the Brexit Party without picking up any new voters from the LDs.
Hunt is also Foreign Secretary, hardly unrecognisable
That is a little rude for such a polite chap as you, but no, not wrong, because as I say Johnson is very highly recognisable, probably doubly so when compared to Hunt.
I will therefore ask again, the key question that needs to be asked: Please explain to us, other than your belief that he might be better at winning elections, WHY does the polemicist Mr Johnson have what it takes to be the Chief Executive of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?
It may have escaped you, but being a Chief Executive requires a bit more than just spouting populist drivel in puerile newspaper articles.
And being PM and winning an election and delivering Brexit requires more than being a cold fish businessman like Hunt, it actually requires some passion and belief in Brexit as Boris has
I refer you to my previous answer on Father Christmas and flat earthers. Please answer the question I would like to know. What skills does the celebrity polemicist Mr Johnson have that will make him a good Chief Executive?
We are not electing a chief executive we are electing a Prime Minister with charisma, conviction and belief ....
Unless you count the conviction (and belief ?) that he should be PM, Boris only scores on one of those.
Mitt Romney would probably have been an excellent President. That he wasn't elected doesn't detract from that. The only thing you can claim for Johnson is that he *might* have a better chance of winning an election. Albeit of the two candidates he is the more likely to have to fight one in the immediate future. But, HYUFD, you've said absolutely nothing about why he would be any good at doing the job. Even the one thing you think he would deliver is doubtful given that his stated means of achieving it is based on absolute nonsense.
And in relation to the policy that you've made up for him - what happens if the Northern Ireland electorate reject the backstop???
If he gets the job Boris also has the belief in Brexit May and Hunt do not really have to deliver Brexit and a GB FTA with the EU out of the Single Market and Customs Union.
On the backstop if Northern Ireland voters reject it and vote for a hard border with the Republic of Ireland that is Barnier and Varadkar's problem not Boris'
Believing in nonsense isn’t going to help us any. You didn’t even vote for Brexit yourself, and you’re as gullible as they come.
Mitt Romney would probably have been an excellent President. That he wasn't elected doesn't detract from that. The only thing you can claim for Johnson is that he *might* have a better chance of winning an election. Albeit of the two candidates he is the more likely to have to fight one in the immediate future. But, HYUFD, you've said absolutely nothing about why he would be any good at doing the job. Even the one thing you think he would deliver is doubtful given that his stated means of achieving it is based on absolute nonsense.
And in relation to the policy that you've made up for him - what happens if the Northern Ireland electorate reject the backstop???
If he gets the job Boris also has the belief in Brexit May and Hunt do not really have to deliver a GB FTA.
On the backstop if Northern Ireland voters reject it and vote for a hard border that is Barnier and Varadkar problem not Boris
As I said earlier, believing that Boris "believes in Brexit" is like a child believing his parents believe in Father Christmas. Boris believes in "Project Boris's Ego" in the same way Trump believes in "Project Donald's Ego", anything else, (including argumentative girlfriends no doubt) is secondary to that priority. Electing egotists never ends well.
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Oh dear another groupie! Tell us why he has the qualities required to be a good PM?
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
My main problem with Boris is that there is no depth to him at all. It is clear that he does not believe a word of what he says. It's great not to take yourself too seriously but my sense of him is that he takes NOTHING seriously. There is nothing there other than a bluff entertaining persona, a decent vocabulary, and a gargantuan sense of entitlement.
Don't get me wrong, he's not pure poison like Trump, definitely not, but we really ought to be able to do better than this for Prime Minister.
Indeed, Boris does not seem to run on anything definitive. It is not good enough.
Give us a National Govt headed by Ken Clarke, David Cameron or Tony Blair any day!
To add to all the chaos over Brexit and Boris, it is reported today that Corbyn and his cabal are considering levying capital gains tax on all sales of private homes
What have we all done to deserve this abject failure of our politicians
Superb. It will lose them millions of votes.
Labour heading into massive overreach territory at this rate. These CGT changes follow from last week's IHT changes that would see scrapping of Osborne's £1m family home property exemption, scrapping of the 7 year rule and a lifetime cap of £125K.
A fascinating contrast with the old Brown/Blair model that you need to utterly bombproof your tax policy announcements in run up to a GE.
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
You will find that delivering Brexit and uniting the country are utterly incompatible. Quite possibly not delivering Brexit and uniting the country are also incompatible, but that’s the fault of the right wing fanatics that have pushed us down this path in the first place.
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Oh dear another groupie! Tell us why he has the qualities required to be a good PM?
Time will tell Nigel , time will tell , let’s see where we are in six months , if we have a conservative majority humble pie may be required .
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
You will find that delivering Brexit and uniting the country are utterly incompatible. Quite possibly not delivering Brexit and uniting the country are also incompatible, but that’s the fault of the right wing fanatics that have pushed us down this path in the first place.
And a certain intellectually challenged left winger who inadequately did his job as LoTO
I see the CGT story comes from the same report as the IHT stuff. The report's main finding is on a Land Value Tax, which seems far more sensible and vote catching than attacking family home owners.
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Oh dear another groupie! Tell us why he has the qualities required to be a good PM?
Or just tell us how Brexit unites the country. It only got 52% three years ago, and appears to be rather less popular now.
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Oh dear another groupie! Tell us why he has the qualities required to be a good PM?
Time will tell Nigel , time will tell , let’s see where we are in six months , if we have a conservative majority humble pie may be required .
Once again, I ask the question, not can he win an election, but how does he have the qualities to do the job? Winning elections is only the first bit. It is like winning a job at interview. You then have to do it. What qualities does this polemicist/journalist/celebrity politician have to be First Among Equals in a cabinet that is the executive of our country?
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Well said
Not very well said at all. To talk about "purging remainers" and also uniting the country is just plain thick. Sorry to say it how it is.
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
Yes, it's simply not true that all Leavers are barking. Many who are not post here and put a case that is at least coherent even if not universally accepted.
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Oh dear another groupie! Tell us why he has the qualities required to be a good PM?
Time will tell Nigel , time will tell , let’s see where we are in six months , if we have a conservative majority humble pie may be required .
Once again, I ask the question, not can he win an election, but how does he have the qualities to do the job? Winning elections is only the first bit. It is like winning a job at interview. You then have to do it. What qualities does this polemicist/journalist/celebrity politician have to be First Among Equals in a cabinet that is the executive of our country?
What qualities did John Major have or Tony Blair or Gordon Brown or Cameron. A Cabinet of all the talents is what makes good government . Boris is more than capable of leading such a cabinet . He did ok in London he can do ok for the UK
Johnson is facing five plots to derail his premiership before it has even started:
● Tory MPs plan to write to May saying they will not vote for Johnson in a motion of no confidence, making it difficult for her to recommend that the Queen invites him to form a government because he will not be able to command a majority in the House of Commons.
● Dominic Grieve, the former attorney- general, yesterday confirmed that even if this does not work, a sizeable group of Tory MPs is prepared to vote with Labour to bring down the government if Johnson persists with his plan to leave the EU by October 31 come what may. He said another Tory could be summoned to the palace instead.
I though Dominic Grieve lost a local party no-confidence vote. Has he just decided to ignore that vote now as well as the referendum?
The brains trust that forms the membership of both our main parties has failed to understand that when you deselect someone you lose your leverage over them. What’s he got to lose? If this parliament lasts, as it could, for another three years Grieve can do what he wants in that time and then go back to the Bar.
Grieve has not been deselected - though the threat is clearly there.
I'm still waiting Mr HYUFD. I am still a member of the party that used to claim to be Conservative and Unionist, and I have a vote in this highly undemocratic process. Tell me why I should think Boris should be PM (not just leader of the Party), or at the very least why I should not fear his incompetence in that position?
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Oh dear another groupie! Tell us why he has the qualities required to be a good PM?
Time will tell Nigel , time will tell , let’s see where we are in six months , if we have a conservative majority humble pie may be required .
Once t bit. It is like winning a job at interview. You then have to do it. What qualities does this polemicist/journalist/celebrity politician have to be First Among Equals in a cabinet that is the executive of our country?
What qualities did John Major have or Tony Blair or Gordon Brown or Cameron. A Cabinet of all the talents is what makes good government . Boris is more than capable of leading such a cabinet . He did ok in London he can do ok for the UK
Erm, the Mayoralty is largely a ceremonial function but even so he had some well-publicised failures of which I think the Garden Bridge and Water Cannons were the most famous.
He screwed up as Foreigh Secretary too. It's not a great record in office.
Mr HYUFD, I am sure you are a nice man, but really, you are naïve in the extreme. Look at any effective leaders from around the world and they need executive capability, leadership, eye for detail, decisiveness, and the really good ones also have consistency and principles. Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and even Blair had most of these things in spade loads. Charisma is nice, but it is worthless without the other characteristics. Boris is hopeless on all fronts and his so-called charisma (don't see it myself) will melt in the first heat of action. He will simply look like the buffoon, poseur and spoilt little liar that he is, and he will drag his party and the country down with his overwhelming incompetence. Maybe he should win so he and the people that voted for him and Brexit can reap the effects of the shitstorm that you claim he is responsible for, but I cannot wish that on my fellow countrymen.
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Oh dear another groupie! Tell us why he has the qualities required to be a good PM?
Time will tell Nigel , time will tell , let’s see where we are in six months , if we have a conservative majority humble pie may be required .
Once again, I ask the question, not can he win an election, but how does he have the qualities to do the job? Winning elections is only the first bit. It is like winning a job at interview. You then have to do it. What qualities does this polemicist/journalist/celebrity politician have to be First Among Equals in a cabinet that is the executive of our country?
What qualities did John Major have or Tony Blair or Gordon Brown or Cameron. A Cabinet of all the talents is what makes good government . Boris is more than capable of leading such a cabinet . He did ok in London he can do ok for the UK
Much good that did Mrs May. Who had the pick of the same people, including Boris himself.
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
I'm still waiting Mr HYUFD. I am still a member of the party that used to claim to be Conservative and Unionist, and I have a vote in this highly undemocratic process. Tell me why I should think Boris should be PM (not just leader of the Party), or at the very least why I should not fear his incompetence in that position?
I have told you umpteen times as he believes in Brexit and will deliver it and a FTA for GB.
However as you are a diehard Remainer you will obviously be voting for Hunt so it is pointless discussing it further with you
So, in early/mid September, the polls are showing Cons 25, Lab 23, BP, 22 and LibDems 17, and the EU ain’t giving an inch. Does PM Johnson seek to call an election? Would his Cabinet/MPs and allow him when the risks are so great?
OK, an alliance with the BP then? Excellent.... but which Conservative MPs are going to voluntarily - or be compelled to - stand aside from their safe seats so that the BP can have a reasonable shot at having a respectable contingent in the Commons? Nigel ain’t so daft as to agree that they will only stand in seats held by Labour, LibDem etc.
The idea that Scots will flock to independence after the car crash of Brexit over the last three years, which the breakup of the UK would make look like a picnic, is fanciful in the extreme.
Mr kjohnw, Gordon Brown would be a good comparison with Boris. The others had the qualities of executive leadership, decisiveness, hard work, eye for detail, knowledge of different departments either in opposition or government. Fundamentally they knew how to command a brief. Boris is an abject failure in the departments he has "worked" in. I wouldn't put him in charge of a parish council.
So, in early/mid September, the polls are showing Cons 25, Lab 23, BP, 22 and LibDems 17, and the EU ain’t giving an inch. Does PM Johnson seek to call an election? Would his Cabinet/MPs and allow him when the risks are so great?
OK, an alliance with the BP then? Excellent.... but which Conservative MPs are going to voluntarily - or be compelled to - stand aside from their safe seats so that the BP can have a reasonable shot at having a respectable contingent in the Commons? Nigel ain’t so daft as to agree that they will only stand in seats held by Labour, LibDem etc.
“Dear Sir Graham....”
An election is no way out for anyone.
It would lead to a Parliament even more hung and incapacitated than this one is.
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Oh dear another groupie! Tell us why he has the qualities required to be a good PM?
Time will tell Nigel , time will tell , let’s see where we are in six months , if we have a conservative majority humble pie may be required .
Once again, I ask the question, not can he win an election, but how does he have the qualities to do the job? Winning elections is only the first bit. It is like winning a job at interview. You then have to do it. What qualities does this polemicist/journalist/celebrity politician have to be First Among Equals in a cabinet that is the executive of our country?
What qualities did John Major have or Tony Blair or Gordon Brown or Cameron. A Cabinet of all the talents is what makes good government . Boris is more than capable of leading such a cabinet . He did ok in London he can do ok for the UK
Much good that did Mrs May. Who had the pick of the same people, including Boris himself.
The current Leaver master plan involves Boris Johnson discarding any talent who is not seen as a pH 14 Leaver. So a government of a quarter of the talents.
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
I used to think there was considerable merit in the argument that only Boris can beat Jezza.
But Boris's performance so far has been poor. Low energy and shifty. Lacking the old mojo and clearly under strict orders to avoid the media, public etc.
If he campaigns in a GE like this then he will lose.
To add to all the chaos over Brexit and Boris, it is reported today that Corbyn and his cabal are considering levying capital gains tax on all sales of private homes
What have we all done to deserve this abject failure of our politicians
Superb. It will lose them millions of votes.
Labour heading into massive overreach territory at this rate. These CGT changes follow from last week's IHT changes that would see scrapping of Osborne's £1m family home property exemption, scrapping of the 7 year rule and a lifetime cap of £125K.
A fascinating contrast with the old Brown/Blair model that you need to utterly bombproof your tax policy announcements in run up to a GE.
The Tory campaign materials write themselves.
Of course it might only have traction in Tory v. labour marginals. Elsewhere hitherto safeish Tory seats could be vulnerable to the LDs on a "make it stop" message.
The idea that Scots will flock to independence after the car crash of Brexit over the last three years, which the breakup of the UK would make look like a picnic, is fanciful in the extreme.
I’m not sure that “we’ve wrecked the UK, now don’t you see why Scotland should stay part of it” is a referendum-winning platform.
The idea that Scots will flock to independence after the car crash of Brexit over the last three years, which the breakup of the UK would make look like a picnic, is fanciful in the extreme.
The one thing that will turn wavering Tory members back to Boris is wee nippy sweetie sticking her oar in
Without charisma you lose anyway and do not get the chance to lead or deliver anything, again ask Mitt Romney.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
Boris is the only one who can deliver brexit now and unite the country. He’s far from perfect , but despite a one off survation poll, he will beat Corbyn (and do labour a favour) and get the tories a majority back so they aren’t reliant on the DUP and purge put the ultra remainers or at least make them powerless to prevent brexit . Hunt cannot achieve this . This is why Boris is hated because they fear him and know he will destroy remain , and labour .
Oh dear another groupie! Tell us why he has the qualities required to be a good PM?
Time will tell Nigel , time will tell , let’s see where we are in six months , if we have a conservative majority humble pie may be required .
Once again, I ask the question, not can he win an election, but how does he have the qualities to do the job? Winning elections is only the first bit. It is like winning a job at interview. You then have to do it. What qualities does this polemicist/journalist/celebrity politician have to be First Among Equals in a cabinet that is the executive of our country?
What qualities did John Major have or Tony Blair or Gordon Brown or Cameron. A Cabinet of all the talents is what makes good government . Boris is more than capable of leading such a cabinet . He did ok in London he can do ok for the UK
Much good that did Mrs May. Who had the pick of the same people, including Boris himself.
The current Leaver master plan involves Boris Johnson discarding any talent who is not seen as a pH 14 Leaver. So a government of a quarter of the talents.
Fox will be gone. He has developed an annoying habit of engaging with trade rules reality.
I'm still waiting Mr HYUFD. I am still a member of the party that used to claim to be Conservative and Unionist, and I have a vote in this highly undemocratic process. Tell me why I should think Boris should be PM (not just leader of the Party), or at the very least why I should not fear his incompetence in that position?
I have told you umpteen times as he believes in Brexit and will deliver it and a FTA for GB.
However as you are a diehard Remainer you will obviously be voting for Hunt so it is pointless discussing it further with you
I may well not vote at all, but you still have not answered my question. Yes you see everything through the prism of Brexit, that much is obvious, but if Boris groupies want to be sure he gets the job then he needs to demonstrate he can do the job of being PM, not just cheerleader in chief for Brexit. By-the-way, I accept that we have to go through with the madness known as Brexit, and that Boris Johnson is partly responsible for that calamity. Hunt has also promised to deliver on this, and it is difficult to see how he can retreat from that. Personally if I were you I would trust his integrity rather more than Johnson, because Boris Johnson has none of that particular commodity!
She has a pin sharp, simple message (eat the rich) and the ability to answer any question with her message which think connects with the Democratic base.
As Biden continues to fuck up his enourmas lead has to go somewhere and I don't see Biden backers switching to Sanders.
She has a pin sharp, simple message (eat the rich) and the ability to answer any question with her message which think connects with the Democratic base.
As Biden continues to fuck up his enourmas lead has to go somewhere and I don't see Biden backers switching to Sanders.
Not sure Biden is exactly f***ing up. A minor wobble or two so far I'd say. TV debates this coming week, so we will know a lot more by Friday.
That’s hardly a PPB for the Labour Party when it was your very own Gordon Brown who gleefully saved the bankers.
But rest-assured that the SNP will be using this Boris quote. Boris is quite simply a gift that keeps on giving. Ruth is in despair.
Saving the bankers came with saving the banks. That was absolutely necessary and is not the same thing as being their friends. However, putting that aside I think you'll struggle to argue that the Labour party now is led by the same kind of people who were leading it in 2008. Totally agree on Johnson and Scotland. The right-wing English nationalism he has embraced at the behest of Bannon and the utter uselessness of Scottish Labour are both gifts to the SNP. I suspect the LibDems may also benefit.
The Brexit Party were second in Scotland in the European Parliament elections
Er... which is relevant how?
We were talking about the Boris bankers gaffe, Gordon Brown and Scottish independence.
Some of your Scottish comments are a bit freestyle/surreal. BXP fixation.
I think that was true last year. I think the damage to democracy has already happened. We may well be better able to repair it inside the EU than out of it.
OK being very sunny side up -
Another referendum which Remain wins by a big margin - none of this 52/48 business - and so we stay in the EU but get something sorted on free movement.
Subsequent GE sees a party advocating Leave again and they do poorly.
Onwards and upwards.
Something like this would be good from here. But I have to force myself to believe it.
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
I don't think that's true at all.
Voters would rally around Hunt to stop Corbyn.
Whereas many would consider Corbyn to stop Boris. I’d think about it myself.
The idea that Scots will flock to independence after the car crash of Brexit over the last three years, which the breakup of the UK would make look like a picnic, is fanciful in the extreme.
I’m not sure that “we’ve wrecked the UK, now don’t you see why Scotland should stay part of it” is a referendum-winning platform.
Dunno, 'HMG comprehensively fucked up Brexit and would even more comprehensively fuck up Scoxit' seems like a winner to me.
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
Why is it about the Tory party rather than what’s best for the country?
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
Why is it about the Tory party rather than what’s best for the country?
I'm still waiting Mr HYUFD. I am still a member of the party that used to claim to be Conservative and Unionist, and I have a vote in this highly undemocratic process. Tell me why I should think Boris should be PM (not just leader of the Party), or at the very least why I should not fear his incompetence in that position?
I have told you umpteen times as he believes in Brexit and will deliver it and a FTA for GB.
However as you are a diehard Remainer you will obviously be voting for Hunt so it is pointless discussing it further with you
If there is no point in discussing it with people who have established positions why are Hunt and Boris on a 20+ date tour of the country?
Your problem is that you have chosen to believe one set of pronouncements by Boris and are taking that as gospel whereas you know perfectly well you can’t trust a thing he says.
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
Why is it about the Tory party rather than what’s best for the country?
That's the only thing it's been about for some time now.
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
Why is it about the Tory party rather than what’s best for the country?
Always has been, always will be.
Yes we had the referendum to stop the tories losing seats. They should have said if the country wants leave the Eu they can vote for a party with that policy. It wouldn’t have happened but the tories might have lost, who knows but it’s better than where we are now
We are not electing a chief executive we are electing a Prime Minister with charisma, conviction and belief who wants to deliver Brexit and has the campaigning skills to win a general election which Boris has
She has a pin sharp, simple message (eat the rich) and the ability to answer any question with her message which think connects with the Democratic base.
As Biden continues to fuck up his enourmas lead has to go somewhere and I don't see Biden backers switching to Sanders.
She can continue to rise at the expense of Sanders. Biden’s support is of a different order, and will be resilient to gaffes... until it isn’t. Or rather, until older Democrats start to doubt that he is their best chance of beating Trump.
In fact, Biden’s comments might reinforce one thing some black voters like about him: Biden might be relatable to people with some racist views, making Biden more electable than, say, a black candidate. It’s hard to get at these dynamics in formal polls. But in interviews I’ve done (and other reporters have found this as well), black voters often express the view that the U.S. elections in 2008 and 2012 were somewhat of an anomaly (that Americans would elect a black president). For them, 2016 was a return to normal (Americans elected a president who had expressed some anti-black sentiments). One of the challenges for Harris’s campaign in particular has been that many African-Americans voters, having watched the hatred of Obama from some Republicans and then Trump’s victory, believe that America is too racist and sexist to elect a black female president....
It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Yes we know almost all the Remainers on PB would vote for Jeremy Hunt by a landslide but most Tory members and indeed 52% of the voters are Leavers
I'm a Leaver and I'd vote for Hunt.
And Hunt would lose to Corbyn and probably end up revoking brexit , the BXP would then destroy what is left of the Tory party . Its Boris or nothing
Why is it about the Tory party rather than what’s best for the country?
Because that’s politics , the Tory party is essentially an election winning machine . It is the raison d'être For why they exist. And to stop us becoming a socialist republic of ofcourse
The Tory civil war is still in full stride. Going on for over three decades now. The end is nigh.
Its interesting that Dr Fox tells us the truth at this point: he hasn't called out any of the leave BS before. None of these bloody people put the country first, its all about self-interest.
The Tory civil war is still in full stride. Going on for over three decades now. The end is nigh.
Though the leavers haven’t been fighting each other for three decades....
Civil war is like that. The organisation(s) involved eventually eat themselves. Look at how complicated many internal conflicts become. Libya good modern example.
Yes we had the referendum to stop the tories losing seats. They should have said if the country wants leave the Eu they can vote for a party with that policy. It wouldn’t have happened but the tories might have lost, who knows but it’s better than where we are now
What, 'chaos with Ed Miliband' would have been better than this? Surely not!
A question for all the experts on here. If I wanted to wipe out the Conservative Party, could you beat this scenario -
- A rival party on the right with a grievance to play on that resonates with Tory supporters. - A Labour Party with a programme that appeals strongly to its base and which motivates its activists. - A controversial leader with a backstory that repels large chunks of potential supporters. - A Lib Dem revival on the back of advocating a policy that appeals to a large chunk of the Tory base which is located in geographical areas where the Conservatives hold a lot of seats.
The Tory civil war is still in full stride. Going on for over three decades now. The end is nigh.
Though the leavers haven’t been fighting each other for three decades....
Civil war is like that. The organisation(s) involved eventually eat themselves. Look at how complicated many internal conflicts become. Libya good modern example.
Unless a Napoleon, Cromwell or Lenin figure gets a grip and puts to the sword the more radical of their own side. Can’t see Boris rising to that challenge, for sure.
A question for all the experts on here. If I wanted to wipe out the Conservative Party, could you beat this scenario -
- A rival party on the right with a grievance to play on that resonates with Tory supporters. - A Labour Party with a programme that appeals strongly to its base and which motivates its activists. - A controversial leader with a backstory that repels large chunks of potential supporters. - A Lib Dem revival on the back of advocating a policy that appeals to a large chunk of the Tory base which is located in geographical areas where the Conservatives hold a lot of seats.
A Tony Blair type figure (for the current age) would be a better bet at point two.
A question for all the experts on here. If I wanted to wipe out the Conservative Party, could you beat this scenario -
- A rival party on the right with a grievance to play on that resonates with Tory supporters. - A Labour Party with a programme that appeals strongly to its base and which motivates its activists. - A controversial leader with a backstory that repels large chunks of potential supporters. - A Lib Dem revival on the back of advocating a policy that appeals to a large chunk of the Tory base which is located in geographical areas where the Conservatives hold a lot of seats.
A Tony Blair type figure (for the current age) would be a better bet at point two.
Better for the Labour vote certainly. But it might not cost the blues quite so many seats.
A question for all the experts on here. If I wanted to wipe out the Conservative Party, could you beat this scenario -
- A rival party on the right with a grievance to play on that resonates with Tory supporters. - A Labour Party with a programme that appeals strongly to its base and which motivates its activists. - A controversial leader with a backstory that repels large chunks of potential supporters. - A Lib Dem revival on the back of advocating a policy that appeals to a large chunk of the Tory base which is located in geographical areas where the Conservatives hold a lot of seats.
You forgot to add in a ticking clock where something has to happen, and delay incurs a huge political cost.
A question for all the experts on here. If I wanted to wipe out the Conservative Party, could you beat this scenario -
- A rival party on the right with a grievance to play on that resonates with Tory supporters. - A Labour Party with a programme that appeals strongly to its base and which motivates its activists. - A controversial leader with a backstory that repels large chunks of potential supporters. - A Lib Dem revival on the back of advocating a policy that appeals to a large chunk of the Tory base which is located in geographical areas where the Conservatives hold a lot of seats.
You forgot to add in a ticking clock where something has to happen, and delay incurs a huge political cost.
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It is time for Tory members to ditch the rose tinted specticles and see Boris for the inarticulate bufoon the rest of us can see. He has poor judgement, impulsive behaviour and no empathy for the people he intends to govern. He is completely out of touch with those who make or break political parties in marginal seats at a GE.
Jeremy Hunt is by far the better candidate. Tory members should back him.
Churchill, Blair and Thatcher all had charisma as well as other executive skills
And in relation to the policy that you've made up for him - what happens if the Northern Ireland electorate reject the backstop???
https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/can-warren-continue-rise#431
I agree with you 100% about Boris!
I dont think people being interested in what Boris says should be mistaken for charisma. As soon as he has to make a decision people will turn against him. He is not a salesman or persuader IMO. He will fall flat on his face as he he blunders in front of the camaras.
As John McTern said in Reaction online magazine, don't come between an MP and their seat.
On the backstop if Northern Ireland voters reject it and vote for a hard border with the Republic of Ireland that is Barnier and Varadkar's problem not Boris' but it is likely Northern Ireland voters will vote for it given the polling there
Jeremy Hunt is articulate, well balanced and genuine.
Boris is a spoilt brat who is out of touch according to his partner. You dont get a better evaluation of someones character than by a partner...
https://twitter.com/election_data/status/1142750742861758465
Don't get me wrong, he's not pure poison like Trump, definitely not, but we really ought to be able to do better than this for Prime Minister.
Quite right. I agree.
When the truth is he has a hardcore of groupies who would drink Kool Aid if he told them to.
The rest of the public can’t stand him. Hunt is beige but much less divisive and won’t trash the UKs reputation .
People wouldn’t walk over hot coals to vote against him but they certainly will with Bozo .
Give us a National Govt headed by Ken Clarke, David Cameron or Tony Blair any day!
A fascinating contrast with the old Brown/Blair model that you need to utterly bombproof your tax policy announcements in run up to a GE.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9355770/corbyns-labour-mulling-new-proposal-to-grab-more-tax-from-homeowners/
He screwed up as Foreigh Secretary too. It's not a great record in office.
However as you are a diehard Remainer you will obviously be voting for Hunt so it is pointless discussing it further with you
OK, an alliance with the BP then? Excellent.... but which Conservative MPs are going to voluntarily - or be compelled to - stand aside from their safe seats so that the BP can have a reasonable shot at having a respectable contingent in the Commons? Nigel ain’t so daft as to agree that they will only stand in seats held by Labour, LibDem etc.
“Dear Sir Graham....”
The idea that Scots will flock to independence after the car crash of Brexit over the last three years, which the breakup of the UK would make look like a picnic, is fanciful in the extreme.
It would lead to a Parliament even more hung and incapacitated than this one is.
Voters would rally around Hunt to stop Corbyn.
But Boris's performance so far has been poor. Low energy and shifty. Lacking the old mojo and clearly under strict orders to avoid the media, public etc.
If he campaigns in a GE like this then he will lose.
Of course it might only have traction in Tory v. labour marginals. Elsewhere hitherto safeish Tory seats could be vulnerable to the LDs on a "make it stop" message.
She has a pin sharp, simple message (eat the rich) and the ability to answer any question with her message which think connects with the Democratic base.
As Biden continues to fuck up his enourmas lead has to go somewhere and I don't see Biden backers switching to Sanders.
We were talking about the Boris bankers gaffe, Gordon Brown and Scottish independence.
Some of your Scottish comments are a bit freestyle/surreal. BXP fixation.
Another referendum which Remain wins by a big margin - none of this 52/48 business - and so we stay in the EU but get something sorted on free movement.
Subsequent GE sees a party advocating Leave again and they do poorly.
Onwards and upwards.
Something like this would be good from here. But I have to force myself to believe it.
The Tory civil war is still in full stride. Going on for over three decades now. The end is nigh.
https://twitter.com/nwbrux/status/1142667436178759680
Your problem is that you have chosen to believe one set of pronouncements by Boris and are taking that as gospel whereas you know perfectly well you can’t trust a thing he says.
Biden’s support is of a different order, and will be resilient to gaffes... until it isn’t. Or rather, until older Democrats start to doubt that he is their best chance of beating Trump.
538 have a good piece on this, which seems intuitively correct:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-will-bidens-latest-comments-affect-his-standing-in-the-democratic-primary/
In fact, Biden’s comments might reinforce one thing some black voters like about him: Biden might be relatable to people with some racist views, making Biden more electable than, say, a black candidate. It’s hard to get at these dynamics in formal polls. But in interviews I’ve done (and other reporters have found this as well), black voters often express the view that the U.S. elections in 2008 and 2012 were somewhat of an anomaly (that Americans would elect a black president). For them, 2016 was a return to normal (Americans elected a president who had expressed some anti-black sentiments). One of the challenges for Harris’s campaign in particular has been that many African-Americans voters, having watched the hatred of Obama from some Republicans and then Trump’s victory, believe that America is too racist and sexist to elect a black female president....
raison d'être For why they exist. And to stop us becoming a socialist republic of ofcourse
- A rival party on the right with a grievance to play on that resonates with Tory supporters.
- A Labour Party with a programme that appeals strongly to its base and which motivates its activists.
- A controversial leader with a backstory that repels large chunks of potential supporters.
- A Lib Dem revival on the back of advocating a policy that appeals to a large chunk of the Tory base which is located in geographical areas where the Conservatives hold a lot of seats.
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