I'm not sure why Philip Lee actually stood for the Conservatives in 2017, if Brexit was intolerable to him.
If Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems he'll need to find a more winnable seat. He wouldn't stand a chance in Bracknell. It's not like they aren't keen on Brexit down there.
He’s more yellow than the contents of Jo Swinsons wardrobe.
And being on telly is meant to be his strongest suit. Perhaps this is on Gavin's advice (but who wants to be governed by someone who takes advice from Gavin?)
I think it’s not that he’s a coward (though he may be) but more that he’s arrogant.
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
Hancock withdrawing, plus the three candidates eliminated means that there are now 50 MPs up for grabs who backed one of the candidates no longer in the race.
If I had said Rory would be 3rd fav a month ago, you would have laughed and asked me if I was on the opium.
I don't see how he makes it past the next round. There's not many new votes going, some of whom are bound to go to the top tier and some of who were backing the hardest leaver candidate in the race, and how many switchers from other candidates are we really expecting, even if Hancock pulls out? MPs are not likely to switch en masse even if he puts in a barnstorming performance in any debate.
My MP backed Hancock according to the Wikipedia list. I'm tempted to email him and suggest that Rory would be worth a vote, although given he'll probably on the deselection target list before long I expect he has other things on his mind. I could suggest it might persuade me to vote Tory again if he were leader, but given the safety of the seat that would hardly be a persuasive argument.
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
Boris an amoral sociopathic snake, and would quite likely win an election, IMHO.
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
I've accused Boris of being a "lying, two faced, adulterous bastard", I have said (on here, today) they he is not my choice, that he will quite probably be a disaster, that in an ideal world I would far prefer Rory Stewart to be leader (and I would). If these are the words of a "fan", in your eyes, then I hope you don't get any "enemies".
But we are where we are. Brexit has to be delivered to save our democracy. Boris might just do it. In the absence of any feasible alternatives.
I'm not sure why Philip Lee actually stood for the Conservatives in 2017, if Brexit was intolerable to him.
If Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems he'll need to find a more winnable seat. He wouldn't stand a chance in Bracknell. It's not like they aren't keen on Brexit down there.
Bracknell would be an easy regain
It’s pretty close there . It was 53/47 for Leave. He hasn’t got much to lose now though as he won’t be the Tory candidate at the next GE.
He’s more yellow than the contents of Jo Swinsons wardrobe.
And being on telly is meant to be his strongest suit. Perhaps this is on Gavin's advice (but who wants to be governed by someone who takes advice from Gavin?)
I think it’s not that he’s a coward (though he may be) but more that he’s arrogant.
The man who had his outriders saying it would be an outrage if the rules were not changed to put more than 2 candidates to the members, when there was a concern he might not make it to the final 2, arrogant? Surely not.
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
Boris an amoral sociopathic snake, and would quite likely win an election, IMHO.
Yep, that's pretty much my view.
And given the choice of an amoral, sociopathic snake - alias Boris Johnson - and Jeremy "Hezbollah, Hamas, IRA, Press TV, Al Qaeda" Corbyn, which would you choose?
I'm not sure why Philip Lee actually stood for the Conservatives in 2017, if Brexit was intolerable to him.
If Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems he'll need to find a more winnable seat. He wouldn't stand a chance in Bracknell. It's not like they aren't keen on Brexit down there.
Bracknell would be an easy regain
It’s pretty close there . It was 53/47 for Leave. He hasn’t got much to lose now though as he won’t be the Tory candidate at the next GE.
Sure, he's burned his bridges with his association.
There are a few Tories of my acquaintance who have for some time been incensed at the idea the members might not be consulted, furious it did not happen last time, and who also happen to be big Boris fans. I am eagerly waiting to see if their anger at the idea of the members not being consulted alters in any way now.
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
Boris an amoral sociopathic snake, and would quite likely win an election, IMHO.
Yep, that's pretty much my view.
And given the choice of an amoral, sociopathic snake - alias Boris Johnson - and Jeremy "Hezbollah, Hamas, IRA, Press TV, Al Qaeda" Corbyn, which would you choose?
Exactly.
I live in a safe seat, I don't have to choose either and don't have to worry about sharing in the blame if they are awful. One reason I voted Tory in 2017 despite them being expected to win and definitely winning in my area, was so I could not avoid blame for things if they turned out badly, given I had been clear I thought Corbyn should be opposed. This time I won't care. Millions of people will rapturously vote for Corbyn or Boris either way.
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
I've accused Boris of being a "lying, two faced, adulterous bastard", I have said (on here, today) they he is not my choice, that he will quite probably be a disaster, that in an ideal world I would far prefer Rory Stewart to be leader (and I would). If these are the words of a "fan", in your eyes, then I hope you don't get any "enemies".
But we are where we are. Brexit has to be delivered to save our democracy. Boris might just do it. In the absence of any feasible alternatives.
I agree, Boris is best chance for the Tories to win the next election
There are a few Tories of my acquaintance who have for some time been incensed at the idea the members might not be consulted, furious it did not happen last time, and who also happen to be big Boris fans. I am eagerly waiting to see if their anger at the idea of the members not being consulted alters in any way now.
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
Boris an amoral sociopathic snake, and would quite likely win an election, IMHO.
Yep, that's pretty much my view.
And given the choice of an amoral, sociopathic snake - alias Boris Johnson - and Jeremy "Hezbollah, Hamas, IRA, Press TV, Al Qaeda" Corbyn, which would you choose?
Exactly.
That is a false choice, other parties are available...
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
Boris an amoral sociopathic snake, and would quite likely win an election, IMHO.
Yep, that's pretty much my view.
And given the choice of an amoral, sociopathic snake - alias Boris Johnson - and Jeremy "Hezbollah, Hamas, IRA, Press TV, Al Qaeda" Corbyn, which would you choose?
Exactly.
That is a false choice, other parties are available...
Gauke on Newsnight saying he won't serve in a Boris cabinet.
Hardly surprising . I’m beginning to think that this leadership contest under the guise of a leader that can unite the party is going to end up with Bozo who will be such a hostage to the ERG that all out war is going to happen in the party .
Why the hold up with other likely defectors? How long does it take to see if the LDs will push aside any local candidates to allow you to fight the seat in their colours?
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
Boris an amoral sociopathic snake, and would quite likely win an election, IMHO.
Yep, that's pretty much my view.
And given the choice of an amoral, sociopathic snake - alias Boris Johnson - and Jeremy "Hezbollah, Hamas, IRA, Press TV, Al Qaeda" Corbyn, which would you choose?
Exactly.
That is a false choice, other parties are available...
Not really. One of them is the BXP led by Farage, with literally zero policies (and some deeply troubling connections, on both wings). The other is the LDs which want to actively revoke A50, which I think would rip the democratic fabric into pieces. Catastrophe.
Given these choices, between a spoonful of shit (Boris), a cup of shit (LDs), a tankard of shit (BXP), and a vat of shit (Corbyn), I go for Boris, leading the Tories. Wince, grimace, hold your nose, and swallow the spoonful.
I'm not sure why Philip Lee actually stood for the Conservatives in 2017, if Brexit was intolerable to him.
If Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems he'll need to find a more winnable seat. He wouldn't stand a chance in Bracknell. It's not like they aren't keen on Brexit down there.
Bracknell would be an easy regain
It’s pretty close there . It was 53/47 for Leave. He hasn’t got much to lose now though as he won’t be the Tory candidate at the next GE.
Sure, he's burned his bridges with his association.
54/46 to Leave and 55% Conservative in 2017 with the LDs nowhere. Maybe Vince can persuade him to stand in Wokingham against Redwood
Why the hold up with other likely defectors? How long does it take to see if the LDs will push aside any local candidates to allow you to fight the seat in their colours?
Patience, Mr Kle4, patience!
I'm an instant gratification kind of political junkie. You'd think I'd be more susceptible the charms of Boris and the 'it's all easy peasy' brigade.
It seems remarkable that there is very little information on how exactly someone actually attacked the tankers today. If it is limpet mines, which is suggested, where exactly did these mines turn up?
Its there that you can source and interdict the attacks.
False flag?
It does all have more than a whiff of Gulf of Tonkin...
“Not much evidence” says Mark Urban on Newsnight. I agree with him.
Of course it’s entirely possible that Iran is responsible, but it’s hardly slam dunk. And there is the cui bono question.
Gauke on Newsnight saying he won't serve in a Boris cabinet.
Hardly surprising . I’m beginning to think that this leadership contest under the guise of a leader that can unite the party is going to end up with Bozo who will be such a hostage to the ERG that all out war is going to happen in the party .
The Tory ultra Remainers may defect to the LDs but as Chuka's move tonight confirms they are already defecting from Labour to the LDs anyway
Gauke on Newsnight saying he won't serve in a Boris cabinet.
Hardly surprising . I’m beginning to think that this leadership contest under the guise of a leader that can unite the party is going to end up with Bozo who will be such a hostage to the ERG that all out war is going to happen in the party .
I don't know about all out war but all these flaky ex-Cabinet ministers knocking around on the backbenches makes an Autumn election all the more likely IMO.
Gauke on Newsnight saying he won't serve in a Boris cabinet.
He’s also making the point that those Tories talking about proroguing Parliament are making it easier for Corbyn to take such a step to push through an unpopular / extremist policy and impossible for them to criticise him.
Is there anyone in the Tories capable of thinking more than 5 minutes ahead?
Rory Stewart definitely won’t pull out . He’s the only one ruling out no deal and he might pick up some more votes .
The 18 who supported him are clearly now the rock solid anti no dealers . I think he’ll do well in the Channel 4 debate and won’t miss that opportunity to throw a few more barbs at Bozo .
I'm not sure why Philip Lee actually stood for the Conservatives in 2017, if Brexit was intolerable to him.
If Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems he'll need to find a more winnable seat. He wouldn't stand a chance in Bracknell. It's not like they aren't keen on Brexit down there.
Bracknell would be an easy regain
It’s pretty close there . It was 53/47 for Leave. He hasn’t got much to lose now though as he won’t be the Tory candidate at the next GE.
Sure, he's burned his bridges with his association.
54/46 to Leave and 55% Conservative in 2017 with the LDs nowhere. Maybe Vince can persuade him to stand in Wokingham against Redwood
LOL. Yes you’d have to go a long way from Bracknell to find an LD winnable seat. Guildford maybe?
Gauke on Newsnight saying he won't serve in a Boris cabinet.
Hardly surprising . I’m beginning to think that this leadership contest under the guise of a leader that can unite the party is going to end up with Bozo who will be such a hostage to the ERG that all out war is going to happen in the party .
Yep. If it is unity they are after it isn't Boris for sure. Did mention at the time hearing Pauline Latham, a big Esther cheerleader. She ruled out 3 as "unsuitable". The obvious, for one from the Right, was Rory. The other 2'were Raab and Boris. Quite frankly the most obvious places for her to transfer to. Do wonder if Bozza will be transfer friendly. Hence the urgency to shorten the process.
Rory Stewart definitely won’t pull out . He’s the only one ruling out no deal and he might pick up some more votes .
The 18 who supported him are clearly now the rock solid anti no dealers . I think he’ll do well in the Channel 4 debate and won’t miss that opportunity to throw a few more barbs at Bozo .
Indeed, I could see Hancock endorsing Stewart tomorrow, though the likelihood is he will back Hunt
AIUI, Boris has been asked precisely 6 questions during this campaign. Failed to answer any of them. OK that's enough scrutiny folks...
How does “Election Winner Boris” expect to get through a GE hidden away May style ?
Or even do PMQs.
He won't Boris was front and centre of 2 Mayoral elections and the referendum campaign as the Leave frontman and answered plenty of Ministerial Questions in the Commons as Foreign Secretary
Rory Stewart definitely won’t pull out . He’s the only one ruling out no deal and he might pick up some more votes .
The 18 who supported him are clearly now the rock solid anti no dealers . I think he’ll do well in the Channel 4 debate and won’t miss that opportunity to throw a few more barbs at Bozo .
The problem for Rory is he won't pick up many votes from Leadsom and McVey. He might get a few from Harper, and also from Hancock if he pulls out.
There is an irony that the most pro-european party has been rescued from deep slumber by european elections that no other party wanted (except Greens/SNP).
Rory Stewart definitely won’t pull out . He’s the only one ruling out no deal and he might pick up some more votes .
The 18 who supported him are clearly now the rock solid anti no dealers . I think he’ll do well in the Channel 4 debate and won’t miss that opportunity to throw a few more barbs at Bozo .
Indeed, I could see Hancock endorsing Stewart tomorrow, though the likelihood is he will back Hunt
rory has the big mo, none of the other non-boris candidates do.
AIUI, Boris has been asked precisely 6 questions during this campaign. Failed to answer any of them. OK that's enough scrutiny folks...
How does “Election Winner Boris” expect to get through a GE hidden away May style ?
Or even do PMQs.
He won't Boris was front and centre of 2 Mayoral elections and the referendum campaign as the Leave frontman and answered plenty of Ministerial Questions in the Commons as Foreign Secretary
He was crap in the referendum debates on tv - no wonder Gavin has told him to hide behind the sofa.
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
Boris an amoral sociopathic snake, and would quite likely win an election, IMHO.
Yep, that's pretty much my view.
And given the choice of an amoral, sociopathic snake - alias Boris Johnson - and Jeremy "Hezbollah, Hamas, IRA, Press TV, Al Qaeda" Corbyn, which would you choose?
Exactly.
That is a false choice, other parties are available...
Translation: We are worried how a series of night after night hustings with baying crowds of Blue Momentum whackos chanting 'WTO' and yobs shouting at journalists, will look to the rest of the country if we go the full distance on the leadership election.
I'm not sure why Philip Lee actually stood for the Conservatives in 2017, if Brexit was intolerable to him.
If Philip Lee joins the Lib Dems he'll need to find a more winnable seat. He wouldn't stand a chance in Bracknell. It's not like they aren't keen on Brexit down there.
Bracknell would be an easy regain
It’s pretty close there . It was 53/47 for Leave. He hasn’t got much to lose now though as he won’t be the Tory candidate at the next GE.
Sure, he's burned his bridges with his association.
54/46 to Leave and 55% Conservative in 2017 with the LDs nowhere. Maybe Vince can persuade him to stand in Wokingham against Redwood
LOL. Yes you’d have to go a long way from Bracknell to find an LD winnable seat. Guildford maybe?
Yes, Sue Doughty won it for the LDs in 2001. Ann Milton won it back for the Conservatives in 2005 and has held it ever since.
What if Boris Johnson's support amongst MPs has actually pretty much topped out in this first round and his numbers don't rise much in subsequent rounds? Sure he will be one of the two going forward but thats not exactly a supine bunch at Westminster that he will have to deal with.
Part of me is counting down to some kind of revelation about him doing the rounds soon. Contrary to Matthew Parris' observation about everything being baked in regarding Johnson, there is always the possibility of something.
From what I understand, every skeleton in Boris's cupboard has now done a modest dance around the bedroom. His womanising is priced in. Likewise his sometimes unreliable relationship with the truth.
WYSIWYG. Boris is a lying, two faced, adulterous bastard with a ruthless streak.
He is ALSO a genuinely funny. charming, optimistic politician, with - somehow - the common touch.
Right now I think people are desperate for any ray of sunshine. If Boris is it? What the hell. Take it.
He might well be a disaster. Indeed, probably. But I can see why he will appeal.
SeanT was also a Boris fan if I recall, could be just coincidence of course Byronic 'I can't believe he's not SeanT'
Boris an amoral sociopathic snake, and would quite likely win an election, IMHO.
Yep, that's pretty much my view.
And given the choice of an amoral, sociopathic snake - alias Boris Johnson - and Jeremy "Hezbollah, Hamas, IRA, Press TV, Al Qaeda" Corbyn, which would you choose?
Exactly.
That is a false choice, other parties are available...
To form a government?
Not so
To hold the balance of power with the SNP, and to moderate the nutters running the two major parties.
Gauke on Newsnight saying he won't serve in a Boris cabinet.
He’s also making the point that those Tories talking about proroguing Parliament are making it easier for Corbyn to take such a step to push through an unpopular / extremist policy and impossible for them to criticise him.
Is there anyone in the Tories capable of thinking more than 5 minutes ahead?
Clearly there are. Just very, very few of them.
Emma Barnett on Newsnight gave the Hunt surrogate a pretty brutal going over, and Gauke a fairly hard time, too. She is good.
The interesting figure here is Javid. There was a sense he under-performed today. But. He had a well-received, if overshadowed launch, and has held high office for a while. Very few seem to actively dislike him, and he doesn't have many obvious negatives. He may be the transfer friendly candidate who could move through the midfield.
AIUI, Boris has been asked precisely 6 questions during this campaign. Failed to answer any of them. OK that's enough scrutiny folks...
How does “Election Winner Boris” expect to get through a GE hidden away May style ?
Or even do PMQs.
He won't Boris was front and centre of 2 Mayoral elections and the referendum campaign as the Leave frontman and answered plenty of Ministerial Questions in the Commons as Foreign Secretary
Your faith in those two Mayoral elections when his policies and political positioning were the complete opposite of what they are now is touching, if deluded.
He was poor at answering questions at City Hall and not particularly good in the Commons either.
His team’s reason for not exposing him to scrutiny - that he might say something stupid or reveal himself to be an arse - unwittingly reveals a critical weakness reinforcing peoples’ doubts about his fitness for office.
AIUI, Boris has been asked precisely 6 questions during this campaign. Failed to answer any of them. OK that's enough scrutiny folks...
How does “Election Winner Boris” expect to get through a GE hidden away May style ?
Or even do PMQs.
He won't Boris was front and centre of 2 Mayoral elections and the referendum campaign as the Leave frontman and answered plenty of Ministerial Questions in the Commons as Foreign Secretary
He was crap in the referendum debates on tv - no wonder Gavin has told him to hide behind the sofa.
AIUI, Boris has been asked precisely 6 questions during this campaign. Failed to answer any of them. OK that's enough scrutiny folks...
How does “Election Winner Boris” expect to get through a GE hidden away May style ?
Or even do PMQs.
He won't Boris was front and centre of 2 Mayoral elections and the referendum campaign as the Leave frontman and answered plenty of Ministerial Questions in the Commons as Foreign Secretary
Your faith in those two Mayoral elections when his policies and political positioning were the complete opposite of what they are now is touching, if deluded.
He was poor at answering questions at City Hall and not particularly good in the Commons either.
His team’s reason for not exposing him to scrutiny - that he might say something stupid or reveal himself to be an arse - unwittingly reveals a critical weakness reinforcing peoples’ doubts about his fitness for office.
They weren't, Boris won in the suburbs and with a tough on crime message, not the Remain central inner city.
Boris is probably the best campaigner in British politics today, if he had not been fronting the Leave campaign Remain would likely have won
Gauke on Newsnight saying he won't serve in a Boris cabinet.
He’s also making the point that those Tories talking about proroguing Parliament are making it easier for Corbyn to take such a step to push through an unpopular / extremist policy and impossible for them to criticise him.
Is there anyone in the Tories capable of thinking more than 5 minutes ahead?
Clearly there are. Just very, very few of them.
Emma Barnett on Newsnight gave the Hunt surrogate a pretty brutal going over, and Gauke a fairly hard time, too. She is good.
Emma Barnett is getting a very good reputation as an interviewer.
She surprised a few politicians when she was on Women’s Hour a couple of years ago, they thought they were going to get a “This Morning” sofa interview and didn’t realise she was a serious journalist who did her research and had difficult questions. Spent a decade at the Telegraph.
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Was it really? Things move fast.
Bracknell would be an easy regain
I don’t see how Boris has a majority in the Commons.
But we are where we are. Brexit has to be delivered to save our democracy. Boris might just do it. In the absence of any feasible alternatives.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/28504/at-least-one-oil-tanker-is-on-fire-in-the-sea-of-oman-reports
Including stating that one ship was attacked twice 3 hours apart.
It’s pretty close there . It was 53/47 for Leave. He hasn’t got much to lose now though as he won’t be the Tory candidate at the next GE.
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-06-13/why-tory-members-ballot-on-boris-johnson-may-be-culled-or-truncated-writes-robert-peston/
And given the choice of an amoral, sociopathic snake - alias Boris Johnson - and Jeremy "Hezbollah, Hamas, IRA, Press TV, Al Qaeda" Corbyn, which would you choose?
Exactly.
Sure, he's burned his bridges with his association.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/141604554855825408?s=19
BF don't lie.
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1139290407249022981
OK that's enough scrutiny folks...
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.125574963
Priti, Francois and JRM in.
Will BE TSEs worst nightmare
Given these choices, between a spoonful of shit (Boris), a cup of shit (LDs), a tankard of shit (BXP), and a vat of shit (Corbyn), I go for Boris, leading the Tories. Wince, grimace, hold your nose, and swallow the spoonful.
54/46 to Leave and 55% Conservative in 2017 with the LDs nowhere. Maybe Vince can persuade him to stand in Wokingham against Redwood
Of course it’s entirely possible that Iran is responsible, but it’s hardly slam dunk. And there is the cui bono question.
https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/chuka-umunna/4128
I mean, I can see for the current Parliamentary battle, it is useful for the LibDems to have more MPs.
But, after this Parliament is dissolved, do the LibDems care much about whether Lee (or Chuka) survive?
A defecting MP is for Christmas, not for life.
Is there anyone in the Tories capable of thinking more than 5 minutes ahead?
The 18 who supported him are clearly now the rock solid anti no dealers . I think he’ll do well in the Channel 4 debate and won’t miss that opportunity to throw a few more barbs at Bozo .
The other 2'were Raab and Boris. Quite frankly the most obvious places for her to transfer to.
Do wonder if Bozza will be transfer friendly. Hence the urgency to shorten the process.
Not so
Translation: We are worried how a series of night after night hustings with baying crowds of Blue Momentum whackos chanting 'WTO' and yobs shouting at journalists, will look to the rest of the country if we go the full distance on the leadership election.
Emma Barnett on Newsnight gave the Hunt surrogate a pretty brutal going over, and Gauke a fairly hard time, too. She is good.
A seconder would also be required, and he would not get many, if any, members votes at present
He was poor at answering questions at City Hall and not particularly good in the Commons either.
His team’s reason for not exposing him to scrutiny - that he might say something stupid or reveal himself to be an arse - unwittingly reveals a critical weakness reinforcing peoples’ doubts about his fitness for office.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXuvsShIDjo
Boris is probably the best campaigner in British politics today, if he had not been fronting the Leave campaign Remain would likely have won
She surprised a few politicians when she was on Women’s Hour a couple of years ago, they thought they were going to get a “This Morning” sofa interview and didn’t realise she was a serious journalist who did her research and had difficult questions. Spent a decade at the Telegraph.