I want the candidate who was outed for her antisemitic and hate-filled views to be defeated.
And I want all those Labour MPs who supported her after her bigotry was revealed to hang their heads in shame for working to get her elected. Shame on the lot of them.
They condemn antisemtism in one breath and enable it in the next.
If Labour do sneak this from BXP, will the Tory leadership contenders be happy or sad?
I don't know about the leadership contenders but I'm sad about any victory by Corbyn. At this time the country needs an honourable and serious opposition to hold the government to account. And we have an antisemitic Marxist instead.
Yep. A Lab loss could have given us a sliver of hope of a challenge this summer.
A labour win cements corbyn in for another year. Which is actually good for brexit and the the tories if they elect Boris
Don't the LibDems at the count usually tweet about now to say that they believe X is just ahead. They (or the Tories) are probably in the best position to give an objective view.
Maybe they've decided to fund the party by tweeting less and betting more.
What is odd about this market is the odd two quids still available to lay at 1000 on the also-rans. You'd not expect to see the pro's leaving money on the table like that. It might not be the big players playing.
Not that I can see. Are we talking Betfair exchange?
Yes -- they've just been taken now but see the @Quincel's screenshot.
I want the candidate who was outed for her antisemitic and hate-filled views to be defeated.
And I want all those Labour MPs who supported her after her bigotry was revealed to hang their heads in shame for working to get her elected. Shame on the lot of them.
They condemn antisemtism in one breath and enable it in the next.
Labour are on a roll. Having dumped a criminal, they may well have elected an anti-semite. Who is up next? A murderer?
As a Labour voter who does not support Corbyn. Quite clearly I want to see the Farage bandwagon stopped. Would be happy with LDs, Greens, or even Cons to win. But they aren't happening. Corbyn or Farage? Jezza every time.
Interesting quote from Labour List: 'A Labour fixer says: "If we pull this off, it will show that you can run a local campaign and beat a huge national issue. We have policing, fly-tipping and education; they have Brexit, Brexit and more Brexit' - illustrations of leaflets attacking the local Tory council etc. If true, the hint of normal politics would probably be good news for the country - one day we'll escape from the Brexit neurosis, perhaps.
I want the candidate who was outed for her antisemitic and hate-filled views to be defeated.
And I want all those Labour MPs who supported her after her bigotry was revealed to hang their heads in shame for working to get her elected. Shame on the lot of them.
They condemn antisemtism in one breath and enable it in the next.
Labour are on a roll. Having dumped a criminal, they may well have elected an anti-semite. Who is up next? A murderer?
And all the while on our midst on here Nick Palmer ignores it all.
As a Labour voter who does not support Corbyn. Quite clearly I want to see the Farage bandwagon stopped. Would be happy with LDs, Greens, or even Cons to win. But they aren't happening. Corbyn or Farage? Jezza every time.
A racist or a xenophobe and you go for the racist.
As a Labour voter who does not support Corbyn. Quite clearly I want to see the Farage bandwagon stopped. Would be happy with LDs, Greens, or even Cons to win. But they aren't happening. Corbyn or Farage? Jezza every time.
A racist or a xenophobe and you go for the racist.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Where is your beloved Tory Party? Ballsing the country as per.
If Labour win this, the big winner is Corbyn - no doubt about it. OK for Labour, but fabulous for Corbyn.
A Labour win is:
Terrible for Labour, bad for the country, good for Corbyn, great for hard Brexit. Is my reckoning.
Yes yes yes, Labour always want to win but I cannot ever seeing them winning a majority under Corbyn. Whereas under a new leader it is at least possible. Indeed very probable, if the leader tacks to the centre.
As a Labour voter who does not support Corbyn. Quite clearly I want to see the Farage bandwagon stopped. Would be happy with LDs, Greens, or even Cons to win. But they aren't happening. Corbyn or Farage? Jezza every time.
A racist or a xenophobe and you go for the racist.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Where is your beloved Tory Party? Ballsing the country as per.
I don't love the Tory party. Not under Theresa May, another xenophobe. I'm politically homeless at the minute and support no party.
Another big rejection of a No Deal Brexit if Labour wins.
If we believe Labour on the ground if they win its about policing, the local Tory council, waste collection and schools - not Brexit - as those are the issues they campaigned on.
This Week says Labour has said Labour core vote holding up but not enough but Brexit Party says they have been pipped by Labour core vote so still tight
According to the BBC journo there the Labour crowd at the count are claiming the Brexit party have probably won and the Brexit party crowd are saying Labour probably has?
No good choices in Peterborough. But at least it means you can take pleasure in who loses.
It was unfortunate for the LDs that a by-election was being held in one of their worst seats in that general area, where they got just 3% last time. Most Cambridgeshire seats are pretty good for the party of course.
According to the BBC journo there the Labour crowd at the count are claiming the Brexit party have probably won and the Brexit party crowd are saying Labour probably has?
This is taking spinning and expectations management to a whole new level.
Car full of Monentum helpers back in Chesterfield say Lab went on Farage NHS views and his Thatcherite views in morning leaflet. The BXT leaflet showing Lab neck and neck seen as big own goal with many green and ld voters 2 weeks ago switching back.
Looks like the top close to call comments could be spot on
Yes - BXP now back in front on the Exchange. But look at the volumes moving the odds - as I write, just £8 would move Labour from 2.78 to 3. I think it's a couple of guys playing the market rather than any solid info.
As a Labour voter who does not support Corbyn. Quite clearly I want to see the Farage bandwagon stopped. Would be happy with LDs, Greens, or even Cons to win. But they aren't happening. Corbyn or Farage? Jezza every time.
A racist or a xenophobe and you go for the racist.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Where is your beloved Tory Party? Ballsing the country as per.
I don't love the Tory party. Not under Theresa May, another xenophobe. I'm politically homeless at the minute and support no party.
Well then, fair enough my friend. Corbyn or Farage? It is a judgement call. And I know which I choose.
According to the BBC journo there the Labour crowd at the count are claiming the Brexit party have probably won and the Brexit party crowd are saying Labour probably has?
This is taking spinning and expectations management to a whole new level.
Labour's expectation management has always been superb before now.
This was probably Labour’s last chance to ditch corbyn before the next GE. If labour win Corbyn is back on front foot and labour is saddled with Marxist antisemite
Car full of Monentum helpers back in Chesterfield say Lab went on Farage NHS views and his Thatcherite views in morning leaflet. The BXT leaflet showing Lab neck and neck seen as big own goal with many green and ld voters 2 weeks ago switching back.
As I said at the time it was a really strange leaflet after going to all the effort to build up Brexit v.s. Lib Dem.
Labour think high turnout helps them - because of their postal vote operation and because low turnout is usually middle class turnout.
I think that model is broken. A lot of the postal vote operation is older people, who are Brexity, and the working class aren't Labour's core vote any more either.
If Labour do win, it will be, as we saw in the Euros, in no small part down to the BME vote remaining relatively loyal in a fairly diverse constituency. Labour will be lucky there was no Galloway.
As a Labour voter who does not support Corbyn. Quite clearly I want to see the Farage bandwagon stopped. Would be happy with LDs, Greens, or even Cons to win. But they aren't happening. Corbyn or Farage? Jezza every time.
A racist or a xenophobe and you go for the racist.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Where is your beloved Tory Party? Ballsing the country as per.
I don't love the Tory party. Not under Theresa May, another xenophobe. I'm politically homeless at the minute and support no party.
Well then, fair enough my friend. Corbyn or Farage? It is a judgement call. And I know which I choose.
If it had choose between the two, it would be Farage.
I suppose it depends what areas come in first. I expect there are massive differences between wards and boxes in terms of Labour vs BXP depending on the demographics.
Earlier boxes and piles could be very misleading - maybe that kay tweet was right with the more urban Labour Asian areas coming in first and the more BXP friendly wards coming in later?
Sounds at least like Labour did better than a lot of people were expecting. A win would be great but a very close contest would beat the expectations at least.
Car full of Monentum helpers back in Chesterfield say Lab went on Farage NHS views and his Thatcherite views in morning leaflet. The BXT leaflet showing Lab neck and neck seen as big own goal with many green and ld voters 2 weeks ago switching back.
As I said at the time it was a really strange leaflet after going to all the effort to build up Brexit v.s. Lib Dem.
I suppose it depends what areas come in first. I expect there are massive differences between wards and boxes in terms of Labour vs BXP depending on the demographics.
Earlier boxes and piles could be very misleading.
Very much so at the count for the EU referendum in Luton. One side would seem to be storming ahead, and then a load of votes would come back for the other.
Car full of Monentum helpers back in Chesterfield say Lab went on Farage NHS views and his Thatcherite views in morning leaflet. The BXT leaflet showing Lab neck and neck seen as big own goal with many green and ld voters 2 weeks ago switching back.
Yeah. Seemed obvious to me. If you are leading, don't identify your main challenger. Doesn't mean a Labour hold though.
As a Labour voter who does not support Corbyn. Quite clearly I want to see the Farage bandwagon stopped. Would be happy with LDs, Greens, or even Cons to win. But they aren't happening. Corbyn or Farage? Jezza every time.
A racist or a xenophobe and you go for the racist.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Where is your beloved Tory Party? Ballsing the country as per.
I don't love the Tory party. Not under Theresa May, another xenophobe. I'm politically homeless at the minute and support no party.
Well then, fair enough my friend. Corbyn or Farage? It is a judgement call. And I know which I choose.
For me that is influenza v a cold.
I'd rather not either but one is worse. An actual racist, vs a panderer to racists. A friend of terrorists, vs a friend of Trump.
Ideally they could both lose. But ultimately if Corbyn goes he could be replaced by better. If Farage goes he isn't likely to be replaced by better.
As a Labour voter who does not support Corbyn. Quite clearly I want to see the Farage bandwagon stopped. Would be happy with LDs, Greens, or even Cons to win. But they aren't happening. Corbyn or Farage? Jezza every time.
A racist or a xenophobe and you go for the racist.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. Where is your beloved Tory Party? Ballsing the country as per.
I don't love the Tory party. Not under Theresa May, another xenophobe. I'm politically homeless at the minute and support no party.
Well then, fair enough my friend. Corbyn or Farage? It is a judgement call. And I know which I choose.
If it had choose between the two, it would be Farage.
Another big rejection of a No Deal Brexit if Labour wins.
And acceptance of corbynite anti semitism
Yep, unfortunately. But when all voters have are crap choices they’re going to make crap choices. Farage is every bit as racist as Corbyn.
Farage is not as racist as Corbyn. Jeremy Corbyn is an out-and-out anti-Semite. He REALLY dislikes Jews and is not even ashamed of it,
I'd have Farage as an ethnocentric "patriot". He FAVOURS his own people/tribe/whatever.
I find them both distasteful, but Corbyn is the only one happily embracing terrorists. working for gay-hanging Iranian TV without shame, etc.
Jews all ... is antisemitic. Muslims all ... is depressingly common in this thread.
Well, I agree, and I wish neither were anywhere near power. But my point is good. Farage is a "passive" defender of what he perceives to be his people (however misjudged). He defends his view of *Britain*. By contrast, I think Corbyn goes considerably further, and actively dislikes Jews - wherever they are.
How sad that British politics has come to this. Farage v Corbyn.
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They condemn antisemtism in one breath and enable it in the next.
Corbyn or Farage?
Jezza every time.
Which is completely different to the £ 20 pound bet .
Can anyone help explain this ?
Where is your beloved Tory Party? Ballsing the country as per.
Terrible for Labour, bad for the country, good for Corbyn, great for hard Brexit. Is my reckoning.
Yes yes yes, Labour always want to win but I cannot ever seeing them winning a majority under Corbyn. Whereas under a new leader it is at least possible. Indeed very probable, if the leader tacks to the centre.
Hey ho. The world will continue.
GOTV with over 500 activists is still important.
RIP Mac Rebbenack, better known as Dr John.
Looks like the top close to call comments could be spot on
https://www.twitter.com/ElectionsGB1/status/1136773458103275520?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed&ref_url=http://vote-2012.proboards.com/thread/12019/peterborough?page=76
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1136772640910315520
Our Glorious Leader may have triumphed in the most important by-election since the D Day landings freed Europe from capitalism.
(shome mistake surely?)
One of my faves!
I think that model is broken. A lot of the postal vote operation is older people, who are Brexity, and the working class aren't Labour's core vote any more either.
If Labour do win, it will be, as we saw in the Euros, in no small part down to the BME vote remaining relatively loyal in a fairly diverse constituency. Labour will be lucky there was no Galloway.
Earlier boxes and piles could be very misleading - maybe that kay tweet was right with the more urban Labour Asian areas coming in first and the more BXP friendly wards coming in later?
I think they will after a recount!! (Hows that for expectation management)
I'd have Farage as an ethnocentric "patriot". He FAVOURS his own people/tribe/whatever.
I find them both distasteful, but Corbyn is the only one happily embracing terrorists. working for gay-hanging Iranian TV without shame, etc.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1136778947356700673?s=20
I'd rather not either but one is worse. An actual racist, vs a panderer to racists. A friend of terrorists, vs a friend of Trump.
Ideally they could both lose. But ultimately if Corbyn goes he could be replaced by better. If Farage goes he isn't likely to be replaced by better.
How sad that British politics has come to this. Farage v Corbyn.
It's a great thing this cashout thing!!