> @HYUFD said: > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections > > Brexit Party 414 > LDs 76 > Lab 67 > SNP 54 > Greens 10 > Tories 1
It was just a joke. Hawk. Doves. Drug references. I don't give a shit that someone's tried something illicit. In fact, I have more respect for them than those who haven't.
> @rottenborough said: > Another top outing for Emma Barnett, who is emerging as the Andrew Neil replacement.
Her R5L show is excellent. She asks penetrating questions without being aggressive or looking for an argument. Gives the impression of actually listening to the answers too. Hard to figure her political leanings.
> @GIN1138 said: > > @HYUFD said: > > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections > > > > Brexit Party 414 > > LDs 76 > > Lab 67 > > SNP 54 > > Greens 10 > > Tories 1 > > Wonder who the one Tory would be?
In a banter world it's Ken Clarke, or John Bercow if the system counts him.
> @GIN1138 said: > > @Floater said: > > > @ah009 said: > > > > @The_Taxman said: > > > > I think Rory Stewart will have ended his aspirations with this admission on smoking opium. I don't think the Grass roots (No pun intended) will approve! > > > > > > > > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/29/rory-stewart-admits-smoking-opium-spell-iran-tells-telegraph/ > > > > > > People usually often refer to politicians as Hawks or Doves, but I didn't think they meant THIS kind of thing. > > > > FFS - who cares if he took drugs when he was younger. > > > > > > Con members probably will. > > Rory The Tory is interesting but come on he's not going to be PM in a few weeks time.
This fuss is crazy.
The article actually says this, whilst walking in Iran:
" “I was invited into the house, the opium pipe was passed around at a wedding. I thought – this is going be a very strange afternoon to walk – but it may be that the family was so poor they put very little opium in the pipe.” "
> @rottenborough said: > > @GIN1138 said: > > > @Floater said: > > > > @ah009 said: > > > > > @The_Taxman said: > > > > > I think Rory Stewart will have ended his aspirations with this admission on smoking opium. I don't think the Grass roots (No pun intended) will approve! > > > > > > > > > > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/29/rory-stewart-admits-smoking-opium-spell-iran-tells-telegraph/ > > > > > > > > People usually often refer to politicians as Hawks or Doves, but I didn't think they meant THIS kind of thing. > > > > > > FFS - who cares if he took drugs when he was younger. > > > > > > > > > > Con members probably will. > > > > Rory The Tory is interesting but come on he's not going to be PM in a few weeks time. > > This fuss is crazy. > > The article actually says this, whilst walking in Iran: > > " “I was invited into the house, the opium pipe was passed around at a wedding. I thought – this is going be a very strange afternoon to walk – but it may be that the family was so poor they put very little opium in the pipe.” " > > So, he was being polite.
> @GIN1138 said: > > @HYUFD said: > > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections > > > > Brexit Party 414 > > LDs 76 > > Lab 67 > > SNP 54 > > Greens 10 > > Tories 1 > > Wonder who the one Tory would be?
Imaginary. They only came second in one council area. Can't see how they would have won a seat anywhere. Edit. Assume it would be Bercow!!!
FFS - who cares if he took drugs when he was younger.
Well me, but ir's the choice of drug that's so bizarre. This is a man who has walked thru Afghanistan, administered Iraq, smoked opium, and...is he actually a time-displaced 19th century colonial administrator? Why don't we press the golden buzzer on him and send him straight thru to the finals?
> @GIN1138 said: > > @TGOHF said: > > Any politician who hasn’t done drugs or doesn’t drink should have their hard drives checked. > > I bet Theresa's never done drugs and doesn't drink much,..
Oh god, I just remember that "wheat fields" rubbish, and cringed in half again. What a disastrously weird person she is. Like, weird in all the wrong ways.
> @Benpointer said: > > @Jonathan said: > > > @GIN1138 said: > > > > @Jonathan said: > > > > Matt Hancock. Oh dear. What a shame. > > > > > > Clueless > > > > It’s painful to watch. > > For those of us not watching do please summarise
Didn't catch that one, but he was seductively interviewed by someone on PM who trapped him several times in between chatting about his dog - "You're Secretary of State for Social Care. We haven't heard anything about it for years. What do you do all day?" "Er..."
> @GIN1138 said: > > @HYUFD said: > > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections > > > > Brexit Party 414 > > LDs 76 > > Lab 67 > > SNP 54 > > Greens 10 > > Tories 1 > > Wonder who the one Tory would be? Looks like it could be Dumfrieshire, Clydesdale and Tweedale constituency where the Tories were neck and neck with the Brexit Party and not far behind the SNP at Dumfries and Galloway local authority level
Biden is 18 points clear of Bernie in new poll showing rest of the Democratic field lagging on single figures with less than a month until first primary debate
> @rottenborough said: > Johnson is a weak favourite and always has been. > > > > Can he really muster enough colleagues to be in the final list once the whittling down starts? I'm not sure he will. > > The membership will explode if he is not in final two (four?)...
> @TheScreamingEagles said: > Tory members didn't mind David Cameron all but admitting he did cocaine.
Yeah. But he had a GREAT idea for a referendum that would settle the European question and unite the Tory Party. I hope and trust he was completely off his tits at the time.
> @dixiedean said: > > @GIN1138 said: > > > @HYUFD said: > > > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections > > > > > > Brexit Party 414 > > > LDs 76 > > > Lab 67 > > > SNP 54 > > > Greens 10 > > > Tories 1 > > > > Wonder who the one Tory would be? > > Imaginary. They only came second in one council area. Can't see how they would have won a seat anywhere. > Edit. Assume it would be Bercow!!! >
Brexit Party would probably keep him on as Speaker. For the shitz'n'gigglez of watching him have to administer the passing of Brexit....
> @HYUFD said: > > @GIN1138 said: > > > @HYUFD said: > > > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections > > > > > > Brexit Party 414 > > > LDs 76 > > > Lab 67 > > > SNP 54 > > > Greens 10 > > > Tories 1 > > > > Wonder who the one Tory would be? > Looks like it could be Dumfrieshire, Clydesdale and Tweedale constituency where the Tories were neck and neck with the Brexit Party and not far behind the SNP at Dumfries and Galloway local authority level > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19QT5Hddz6W8ex4juQHAOv9tZdP5lWb8foJ4_atT8J-M/edit#gid=1116392851
So Secretary of State for Scotland David Mundell could be the only Tory MP left (at least the Tories could be assured they would finally have an openly gay UK leader)
> @ah009 said: > > @GIN1138 said: > > > @TGOHF said: > > > Any politician who hasn’t done drugs or doesn’t drink should have their hard drives checked. > > > > I bet Theresa's never done drugs and doesn't drink much,.. > > Oh god, I just remember that "wheat fields" rubbish, and cringed in half again. What a disastrously weird person she is. Like, weird in all the wrong ways.
Theresa was/is a very strange person. I'm not sure there was a single day when she didn't look tense and like a rabbit in headlights.
I'm pleased it's nearly all over for her and she'll be able to retire to a hill on Snowdonia and a life of obscurity,,,
One vague fantasy idea that I have is that Boris will become PM, deliver a No-Deal Brexit on 31st October, then messes up with some sort of blunder or scandal, then Rory becomes PM in November and leads the Conservative Party to a glorious landslide victory in 2022.
> @GIN1138 said: > > @ah009 said: > > > @GIN1138 said: > > > > @TGOHF said: > > > > Any politician who hasn’t done drugs or doesn’t drink should have their hard drives checked. > > > > > > I bet Theresa's never done drugs and doesn't drink much,.. > > > > Oh god, I just remember that "wheat fields" rubbish, and cringed in half again. What a disastrously weird person she is. Like, weird in all the wrong ways. > > Theresa was/is a very strange person. I'm not sure there was a single day when she didn't look tense and like a rabbit in headlights. > > I'm pleased it's nearly all over for her and she'll be able to retire to a hill on Snowdonia and a life of obscurity,,, > > Wonder what HMQ thought to her?
I'm sure a royal eyebrow was raised when she went to accept the post of PM in a yellow day-glo bum-flapper.....
Seems odd that we've heard almost nothing from Boris for the past week.
We've had Rory's walking holiday. Hunt making one blunder after another. Hancock being a moron as usual. Raab appearing here, there and everywhere. But nothing from Boris...
Makes me wonder if he's even going to stand in the end?
> @MarqueeMark said: > > @GIN1138 said: > > > @ah009 said: > > > > @GIN1138 said: > > > > > @TGOHF said: > > > > > Any politician who hasn’t done drugs or doesn’t drink should have their hard drives checked. > > > > > > > > I bet Theresa's never done drugs and doesn't drink much,.. > > > > > > Oh god, I just remember that "wheat fields" rubbish, and cringed in half again. What a disastrously weird person she is. Like, weird in all the wrong ways. > > > > Theresa was/is a very strange person. I'm not sure there was a single day when she didn't look tense and like a rabbit in headlights. > > > > I'm pleased it's nearly all over for her and she'll be able to retire to a hill on Snowdonia and a life of obscurity,,, > > > > Wonder what HMQ thought to her? > > I'm sure a royal eyebrow was raised when she went to accept the post of PM in a yellow day-glo bum-flapper.....
> @JohnLoony said: > One vague fantasy idea that I have is that Boris will become PM, deliver a No-Deal Brexit on 31st October, then messes up with some sort of blunder or scandal, then Rory becomes PM in November and leads the Conservative Party to a glorious landslide victory in 2022.
Rory Stewart is the top Remainer in the new ConHome Tory members next Tory leader poll on 6% ahead of Hunt on 4% but he still comes in 5th behind Leavers Boris, Raab, Gove and Baker in that order
> @JohnLoony said: > One vague fantasy idea that I have is that Boris will become PM, deliver a No-Deal Brexit on 31st October, then messes up with some sort of blunder or scandal, then Rory becomes PM in November and leads the Conservative Party to a glorious landslide victory in 2022.
Ian Dale had Steve "Nobber" Norris on his LBC show tonight and it reminded me that it's been a while since the Tories had a really good sex scandal...
This recent unpersoning of Paul Mason by Bastani et al has driven them all crazy. Since then they've all been even more cult like and defensive. There's not even been any sort of "blairite coup" rumours that could explain it. Seems ever more likely that Corbyn will be undone by his own side tearing itself apart rather than being ousted by blairites or losing to the tories
> @GIN1138 said: > > @JohnLoony said: > > One vague fantasy idea that I have is that Boris will become PM, deliver a No-Deal Brexit on 31st October, then messes up with some sort of blunder or scandal, then Rory becomes PM in November and leads the Conservative Party to a glorious landslide victory in 2022. > > Ian Dale had Steve "Nobber" Norris on his LBC show tonight and it reminded me that it's been a while since the Tories had a really good sex scandal...
The Tory ladies around here were not impressed apparently as his wife used to take weekly teas with them and he was effectively deselected before the 1997 election as MP for Epping Forest as a result
> @GIN1138 said: > > @JohnLoony said: > > One vague fantasy idea that I have is that Boris will become PM, deliver a No-Deal Brexit on 31st October, then messes up with some sort of blunder or scandal, then Rory becomes PM in November and leads the Conservative Party to a glorious landslide victory in 2022. > > Ian Dale had Steve "Nobber" Norris on his LBC show tonight and it reminded me that it's been a while since the Tories had a really good sex scandal...
Bonking Boris will do the honours over the coming months!
> @AndreaParma_82 said: > Full recout in Ireland South Euro constituency asked by Sinn Fein who has been eliminatde being 300 votes behind the Greens.
That was after the 18th count!
The 200 polling staff must be so exhausted - they have already been working on the count for 4 days and now have to start all over again. There were 750,000 votes cast and the ballot paper is 2 foot long.
And whoever wins in the end out of Sinn Fein and the Greens will have to wait for Brexit to happen before they can take their seat in Brussels. Saying that at this rate the count might still be ongoing on Halloween.
They have also finally finished counting in Midlands north west - after only 13 counts.
> @GIN1138 said: > Seems odd that we've heard almost nothing from Boris for the past week. > > We've had Rory's walking holiday. Hunt making one blunder after another. Hancock being a moron as usual. Raab appearing here, there and everywhere. But nothing from Boris... > > Makes me wonder if he's even going to stand in the end?
Boris has already announced he will stand, he is keeping his head down and building up his MP and members' support and letting others make the gaffes sensibly and Hancock and Hunt have already obliged
Ooh I knew that in 2017 I'd bet on Amber Rudd for next Tory leader (I think I can write that money off now...) but I've just noticed I also laid Boris at 7.6 - made sense at the time but I assume that I'm soon going to be donating £200 to someone's holiday fund.
> @HYUFD said: > > @GIN1138 said: > > Seems odd that we've heard almost nothing from Boris for the past week. > > > > We've had Rory's walking holiday. Hunt making one blunder after another. Hancock being a moron as usual. Raab appearing here, there and everywhere. But nothing from Boris... > > > > Makes me wonder if he's even going to stand in the end? > > Boris has already announced he will stand, he is keeping his head down and building up his MP and members' support and letting others make the gaffes sensibly and Hancock and Hunt have already obliged
This is unlike Bozza. Lynton strategy? Let everyone else prove they are unfit for the role and win by making fewest errors? Good plan. But surely he has to appear somewhere somehow sometime?
> Full recout in Ireland South Euro constituency asked by Sinn Fein who has been eliminatde being 300 votes behind the Greens.
That was after the 18th count!
The 200 polling staff must be so exhausted - they have already been working on the count for 4 days and now have to start all over again. There were 750,000 votes cast and the ballot paper is 2 foot long.
And whoever wins in the end out of Sinn Fein and the Greens will have to wait for Brexit to happen before they can take their seat in Brussels. Saying that at this rate the count might still be ongoing on Halloween.
They have also finally finished counting in Midlands north west - after only 13 counts.
Another reason to keep FPTP: the sanity of those counting.
> @RobD said: > > @AndreaParma_82 said: > > > Full recout in Ireland South Euro constituency asked by Sinn Fein who has been eliminatde being 300 votes behind the Greens. > > > > That was after the 18th count! > > > > The 200 polling staff must be so exhausted - they have already been working on the count for 4 days and now have to start all over again. There were 750,000 votes cast and the ballot paper is 2 foot long. > > > > And whoever wins in the end out of Sinn Fein and the Greens will have to wait for Brexit to happen before they can take their seat in Brussels. Saying that at this rate the count might still be ongoing on Halloween. > > > > They have also finally finished counting in Midlands north west - after only 13 counts. > > Another reason to keep FPTP: the sanity of those counting.
Wouldn't it be possible to scan the ballots papers into a computer and let it do all the work?
Any thoughts on why Leadsom has so few declared supporters so far (excluding herself just two per Guido, three per Wiki) and how this fits with her odds having come in so much in last few days that she is now joint 3rd favourite at 8.2?
> @MikeL said: > Any thoughts on why Leadsom has so few declared supporters so far (two per Guido, three per Wiki) and how this fits with her odds having come in so much in last few days that she is now joint 3rd favourite at 8.2?
I don't understand it at all unless she has a lot of undeclared supporters amongst the roughly 50% of Tory MPs who haven't endorsed a candidate yet.
> @YBarddCwsc said: > > @Scott_P said: > > Suggested elsewhere, it should not be illegal to lie in a campaign, but it should bar you from holding public office again... > > ---- > > That is what happens now. > > 1. You lie (see N. Clegg). > > 2. Your political opponents nail the lie. > > 3. Electoral disaster looms (see N. Clegg). > > 4. You lose your seat (see N. Clegg). > > In the case of B. Johnston, the Remainers should nail his lie by ensuring he loses his seat. > > The fifth stage is of course > > 5. Sell out and get a massive salary to lie professionally for others (see N. Clegg). > > I expect B. Johnston's trajectory will be the same as N. Clegg's.
"Rory Stewart’s nerdiness means he is just the sort of oddball the British love
The Tory leadership hopeful gives impassioned speeches in the house about hedgehogs, and sees himself as the second coming of TE Lawrence. What’s not to like?"
> @AndyJS said: > > @RobD said: > > > @AndreaParma_82 said: > > > > > Full recout in Ireland South Euro constituency asked by Sinn Fein who has been eliminatde being 300 votes behind the Greens. > > > > > > > > That was after the 18th count! > > > > > > > > The 200 polling staff must be so exhausted - they have already been working on the count for 4 days and now have to start all over again. There were 750,000 votes cast and the ballot paper is 2 foot long. > > > > > > > > And whoever wins in the end out of Sinn Fein and the Greens will have to wait for Brexit to happen before they can take their seat in Brussels. Saying that at this rate the count might still be ongoing on Halloween. > > > > > > > > They have also finally finished counting in Midlands north west - after only 13 counts. > > > > Another reason to keep FPTP: the sanity of those counting. > > Wouldn't it be possible to scan the ballots papers into a computer and let it do all the work?
It is possible. It would be expensive to roll out the technology but not excessive. But in many countries the public and politicians are worry about accuracy/reliability and security of electronic counting systems.
> @RobD said: > > @AndreaParma_82 said: > > > Full recout in Ireland South Euro constituency asked by Sinn Fein who has been eliminatde being 300 votes behind the Greens. > > > > That was after the 18th count! > > > > The 200 polling staff must be so exhausted - they have already been working on the count for 4 days and now have to start all over again. There were 750,000 votes cast and the ballot paper is 2 foot long. > > > > And whoever wins in the end out of Sinn Fein and the Greens will have to wait for Brexit to happen before they can take their seat in Brussels. Saying that at this rate the count might still be ongoing on Halloween. > > > > They have also finally finished counting in Midlands north west - after only 13 counts. > > Another reason to keep FPTP: the sanity of those counting.
Do you know that those polling staff are exhausted and becoming insane, or just presuming it?
> @rottenborough said: > Johnson is a weak favourite and always has been. > > > > Can he really muster enough colleagues to be in the final list once the whittling down starts? I'm not sure he will. > > The membership will explode if he is not in final two (four?)... I presume you don't mean that literally, unfortunately.
Comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSozvePvdek
> > @The_Taxman said:
> > I think Rory Stewart will have ended his aspirations with this admission on smoking opium. I don't think the Grass roots (No pun intended) will approve!
> >
> > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/29/rory-stewart-admits-smoking-opium-spell-iran-tells-telegraph/
>
> People usually often refer to politicians as Hawks or Doves, but I didn't think they meant THIS kind of thing.
FFS - who cares if he took drugs when he was younger.
Brexit Party 414
LDs 76
Lab 67
SNP 54
Greens 10
Tories 1
> > @ah009 said:
> > > @The_Taxman said:
> > > I think Rory Stewart will have ended his aspirations with this admission on smoking opium. I don't think the Grass roots (No pun intended) will approve!
> > >
> > > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/29/rory-stewart-admits-smoking-opium-spell-iran-tells-telegraph/
> >
> > People usually often refer to politicians as Hawks or Doves, but I didn't think they meant THIS kind of thing.
>
> FFS - who cares if he took drugs when he was younger.
>
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Con members probably will.
Rory The Tory is interesting but come on he's not going to be PM in a few weeks time.
> A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections
>
> Brexit Party 414
> LDs 76
> Lab 67
> SNP 54
> Greens 10
> Tories 1
Wonder who the one Tory would be?
> > @ah009 said:
> > > @The_Taxman said:
> > > I think Rory Stewart will have ended his aspirations with this admission on smoking opium. I don't think the Grass roots (No pun intended) will approve!
> > >
> > > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/29/rory-stewart-admits-smoking-opium-spell-iran-tells-telegraph/
> >
> > People usually often refer to politicians as Hawks or Doves, but I didn't think they meant THIS kind of thing.
>
> FFS - who cares if he took drugs when he was younger.
It was just a joke. Hawk. Doves. Drug references. I don't give a shit that someone's tried something illicit. In fact, I have more respect for them than those who haven't.
> Another top outing for Emma Barnett, who is emerging as the Andrew Neil replacement.
Her R5L show is excellent. She asks penetrating questions without being aggressive or looking for an argument. Gives the impression of actually listening to the answers too. Hard to figure her political leanings.
> > @HYUFD said:
> > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections
> >
> > Brexit Party 414
> > LDs 76
> > Lab 67
> > SNP 54
> > Greens 10
> > Tories 1
>
> Wonder who the one Tory would be?
In a banter world it's Ken Clarke, or John Bercow if the system counts him.
> James Cleverly on now and says there can be no further delay to Brexit
Never realised it was that simple! Glad he's got it all in hand.
> > @Floater said:
> > > @ah009 said:
> > > > @The_Taxman said:
> > > > I think Rory Stewart will have ended his aspirations with this admission on smoking opium. I don't think the Grass roots (No pun intended) will approve!
> > > >
> > > > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/29/rory-stewart-admits-smoking-opium-spell-iran-tells-telegraph/
> > >
> > > People usually often refer to politicians as Hawks or Doves, but I didn't think they meant THIS kind of thing.
> >
> > FFS - who cares if he took drugs when he was younger.
> >
> >
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> Con members probably will.
>
> Rory The Tory is interesting but come on he's not going to be PM in a few weeks time.
This fuss is crazy.
The article actually says this, whilst walking in Iran:
" “I was invited into the house, the opium pipe was passed around at a wedding. I thought – this is going be a very strange afternoon to walk – but it may be that the family was so poor they put very little opium in the pipe.” "
So, he was being polite.
> > @GIN1138 said:
> > > @Floater said:
> > > > @ah009 said:
> > > > > @The_Taxman said:
> > > > > I think Rory Stewart will have ended his aspirations with this admission on smoking opium. I don't think the Grass roots (No pun intended) will approve!
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/29/rory-stewart-admits-smoking-opium-spell-iran-tells-telegraph/
> > > >
> > > > People usually often refer to politicians as Hawks or Doves, but I didn't think they meant THIS kind of thing.
> > >
> > > FFS - who cares if he took drugs when he was younger.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Con members probably will.
> >
> > Rory The Tory is interesting but come on he's not going to be PM in a few weeks time.
>
> This fuss is crazy.
>
> The article actually says this, whilst walking in Iran:
>
> " “I was invited into the house, the opium pipe was passed around at a wedding. I thought – this is going be a very strange afternoon to walk – but it may be that the family was so poor they put very little opium in the pipe.” "
>
> So, he was being polite.
Who doesn't like to have a puff at a wedding.
Can he really muster enough colleagues to be in the final list once the whittling down starts? I'm not sure he will.
> Any politician who hasn’t done drugs or doesn’t drink should have their hard drives checked.
I bet Theresa's never done drugs and doesn't drink much,..
> > @HYUFD said:
> > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections
> >
> > Brexit Party 414
> > LDs 76
> > Lab 67
> > SNP 54
> > Greens 10
> > Tories 1
>
> Wonder who the one Tory would be?
Imaginary. They only came second in one council area. Can't see how they would have won a seat anywhere.
Edit. Assume it would be Bercow!!!
Which drugs did she take I wonder...
> > @TGOHF said:
> > Any politician who hasn’t done drugs or doesn’t drink should have their hard drives checked.
>
> I bet Theresa's never done drugs and doesn't drink much,..
Oh god, I just remember that "wheat fields" rubbish, and cringed in half again. What a disastrously weird person she is. Like, weird in all the wrong ways.
> > @Jonathan said:
> > > @GIN1138 said:
> > > > @Jonathan said:
> > > > Matt Hancock. Oh dear. What a shame.
> > >
> > > Clueless
> >
> > It’s painful to watch.
>
> For those of us not watching do please summarise
Didn't catch that one, but he was seductively interviewed by someone on PM who trapped him several times in between chatting about his dog - "You're Secretary of State for Social Care. We haven't heard anything about it for years. What do you do all day?" "Er..."
> Leadsom back at 3rd fav.
>
> Which drugs did she take I wonder...
According to her cv she discovered penicillin, if that's any help.
> > @HYUFD said:
> > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections
> >
> > Brexit Party 414
> > LDs 76
> > Lab 67
> > SNP 54
> > Greens 10
> > Tories 1
>
> Wonder who the one Tory would be?
Looks like it could be Dumfrieshire, Clydesdale and Tweedale constituency where the Tories were neck and neck with the Brexit Party and not far behind the SNP at Dumfries and Galloway local authority level
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19QT5Hddz6W8ex4juQHAOv9tZdP5lWb8foJ4_atT8J-M/edit#gid=1116392851
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7083989/Biden-18-points-ahead-Bernie-new-poll-rest-Democratic-field-lags-single-figures.html
> Biden is 18 points clear of Bernie in new poll showing rest of the Democratic field lagging on single figures with less than a month until first primary debate
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7083989/Biden-18-points-ahead-Bernie-new-poll-rest-Democratic-field-lags-single-figures.html
Biden is the only Democrat candidate who can win the Rust Belt IMO.
> Johnson is a weak favourite and always has been.
>
>
>
> Can he really muster enough colleagues to be in the final list once the whittling down starts? I'm not sure he will.
>
> The membership will explode if he is not in final two (four?)...
Maybe, but maybe not
> Tory members didn't mind David Cameron all but admitting he did cocaine.
Yeah. But he had a GREAT idea for a referendum that would settle the European question and unite the Tory Party.
I hope and trust he was completely off his tits at the time.
> > @GIN1138 said:
> > > @HYUFD said:
> > > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections
> > >
> > > Brexit Party 414
> > > LDs 76
> > > Lab 67
> > > SNP 54
> > > Greens 10
> > > Tories 1
> >
> > Wonder who the one Tory would be?
>
> Imaginary. They only came second in one council area. Can't see how they would have won a seat anywhere.
> Edit. Assume it would be Bercow!!!
>
Brexit Party would probably keep him on as Speaker. For the shitz'n'gigglez of watching him have to administer the passing of Brexit....
> Biden is 18 points clear of Bernie in new poll showing rest of the Democratic field lagging on single figures with less than a month until first primary debate
>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7083989/Biden-18-points-ahead-Bernie-new-poll-rest-Democratic-field-lags-single-figures.html
Though Sanders was tied with Biden in an Iowa poll last week
> > @rottenborough said:
> > Biden is 18 points clear of Bernie in new poll showing rest of the Democratic field lagging on single figures with less than a month until first primary debate
> >
> > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7083989/Biden-18-points-ahead-Bernie-new-poll-rest-Democratic-field-lags-single-figures.html
>
> Biden is the only Democrat candidate who can win the Rust Belt IMO.
Yep. Unless someone can convince me there is another route to the WH, it has to be Biden this time. (sorry OGH).
> > @GIN1138 said:
> > > @HYUFD said:
> > > A Peston researcher has done a forecast of how a general election would look if people voted the same way as in the European elections
> > >
> > > Brexit Party 414
> > > LDs 76
> > > Lab 67
> > > SNP 54
> > > Greens 10
> > > Tories 1
> >
> > Wonder who the one Tory would be?
> Looks like it could be Dumfrieshire, Clydesdale and Tweedale constituency where the Tories were neck and neck with the Brexit Party and not far behind the SNP at Dumfries and Galloway local authority level
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19QT5Hddz6W8ex4juQHAOv9tZdP5lWb8foJ4_atT8J-M/edit#gid=1116392851
So Secretary of State for Scotland David Mundell could be the only Tory MP left (at least the Tories could be assured they would finally have an openly gay UK leader)
> > @GIN1138 said:
> > > @TGOHF said:
> > > Any politician who hasn’t done drugs or doesn’t drink should have their hard drives checked.
> >
> > I bet Theresa's never done drugs and doesn't drink much,..
>
> Oh god, I just remember that "wheat fields" rubbish, and cringed in half again. What a disastrously weird person she is. Like, weird in all the wrong ways.
Theresa was/is a very strange person. I'm not sure there was a single day when she didn't look tense and like a rabbit in headlights.
I'm pleased it's nearly all over for her and she'll be able to retire to a hill on Snowdonia and a life of obscurity,,,
Wonder what HMQ thought to her?
https://twitter.com/mac123_m/status/1133100535723249666
https://twitter.com/scotlandtonight/status/1133857767708680192?s=21
https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/1133762744266711040
> The madness just gets worse in Labour:
>
> https://twitter.com/mac123_m/status/1133100535723249666
what an obvious binary choice...
Am sure it will happen just like that
> > @ah009 said:
> > > @GIN1138 said:
> > > > @TGOHF said:
> > > > Any politician who hasn’t done drugs or doesn’t drink should have their hard drives checked.
> > >
> > > I bet Theresa's never done drugs and doesn't drink much,..
> >
> > Oh god, I just remember that "wheat fields" rubbish, and cringed in half again. What a disastrously weird person she is. Like, weird in all the wrong ways.
>
> Theresa was/is a very strange person. I'm not sure there was a single day when she didn't look tense and like a rabbit in headlights.
>
> I'm pleased it's nearly all over for her and she'll be able to retire to a hill on Snowdonia and a life of obscurity,,,
>
> Wonder what HMQ thought to her?
I'm sure a royal eyebrow was raised when she went to accept the post of PM in a yellow day-glo bum-flapper.....
> This is the future that Labour now want. Dissent against the Great Leader is an attack on all of us.
>
> https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/1133762744266711040
The Jesus Army has disbanded. The Jezza Army is becoming more cult-like with every passing tweet
We've had Rory's walking holiday. Hunt making one blunder after another. Hancock being a moron as usual. Raab appearing here, there and everywhere. But nothing from Boris...
Makes me wonder if he's even going to stand in the end?
> > @GIN1138 said:
> > > @ah009 said:
> > > > @GIN1138 said:
> > > > > @TGOHF said:
> > > > > Any politician who hasn’t done drugs or doesn’t drink should have their hard drives checked.
> > > >
> > > > I bet Theresa's never done drugs and doesn't drink much,..
> > >
> > > Oh god, I just remember that "wheat fields" rubbish, and cringed in half again. What a disastrously weird person she is. Like, weird in all the wrong ways.
> >
> > Theresa was/is a very strange person. I'm not sure there was a single day when she didn't look tense and like a rabbit in headlights.
> >
> > I'm pleased it's nearly all over for her and she'll be able to retire to a hill on Snowdonia and a life of obscurity,,,
> >
> > Wonder what HMQ thought to her?
>
> I'm sure a royal eyebrow was raised when she went to accept the post of PM in a yellow day-glo bum-flapper.....
Yeah that was an omen...
> One vague fantasy idea that I have is that Boris will become PM, deliver a No-Deal Brexit on 31st October, then messes up with some sort of blunder or scandal, then Rory becomes PM in November and leads the Conservative Party to a glorious landslide victory in 2022.
Rory Stewart is the top Remainer in the new ConHome Tory members next Tory leader poll on 6% ahead of Hunt on 4% but he still comes in 5th behind Leavers Boris, Raab, Gove and Baker in that order
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2019/05/our-survey-next-tory-leader-so-much-excitement-so-little-change-johnson-maintains-his-lead.html
> One vague fantasy idea that I have is that Boris will become PM, deliver a No-Deal Brexit on 31st October, then messes up with some sort of blunder or scandal, then Rory becomes PM in November and leads the Conservative Party to a glorious landslide victory in 2022.
Ian Dale had Steve "Nobber" Norris on his LBC show tonight and it reminded me that it's been a while since the Tories had a really good sex scandal...
> > @JohnLoony said:
> > One vague fantasy idea that I have is that Boris will become PM, deliver a No-Deal Brexit on 31st October, then messes up with some sort of blunder or scandal, then Rory becomes PM in November and leads the Conservative Party to a glorious landslide victory in 2022.
>
> Ian Dale had Steve "Nobber" Norris on his LBC show tonight and it reminded me that it's been a while since the Tories had a really good sex scandal...
The Tory ladies around here were not impressed apparently as his wife used to take weekly teas with them and he was effectively deselected before the 1997 election as MP for Epping Forest as a result
> > @JohnLoony said:
> > One vague fantasy idea that I have is that Boris will become PM, deliver a No-Deal Brexit on 31st October, then messes up with some sort of blunder or scandal, then Rory becomes PM in November and leads the Conservative Party to a glorious landslide victory in 2022.
>
> Ian Dale had Steve "Nobber" Norris on his LBC show tonight and it reminded me that it's been a while since the Tories had a really good sex scandal...
Bonking Boris will do the honours over the coming months!
> Full recout in Ireland South Euro constituency asked by Sinn Fein who has been eliminatde being 300 votes behind the Greens.
That was after the 18th count!
The 200 polling staff must be so exhausted - they have already been working on the count for 4 days and now have to start all over again. There were 750,000 votes cast and the ballot paper is 2 foot long.
And whoever wins in the end out of Sinn Fein and the Greens will have to wait for Brexit to happen before they can take their seat in Brussels. Saying that at this rate the count might still be ongoing on Halloween.
They have also finally finished counting in Midlands north west - after only 13 counts.
> Seems odd that we've heard almost nothing from Boris for the past week.
>
> We've had Rory's walking holiday. Hunt making one blunder after another. Hancock being a moron as usual. Raab appearing here, there and everywhere. But nothing from Boris...
>
> Makes me wonder if he's even going to stand in the end?
Boris has already announced he will stand, he is keeping his head down and building up his MP and members' support and letting others make the gaffes sensibly and Hancock and Hunt have already obliged
> > @GIN1138 said:
> > Seems odd that we've heard almost nothing from Boris for the past week.
> >
> > We've had Rory's walking holiday. Hunt making one blunder after another. Hancock being a moron as usual. Raab appearing here, there and everywhere. But nothing from Boris...
> >
> > Makes me wonder if he's even going to stand in the end?
>
> Boris has already announced he will stand, he is keeping his head down and building up his MP and members' support and letting others make the gaffes sensibly and Hancock and Hunt have already obliged
This is unlike Bozza. Lynton strategy? Let everyone else prove they are unfit for the role and win by making fewest errors?
Good plan. But surely he has to appear somewhere somehow sometime?
> https://twitter.com/MSmithsonPB/status/1133850024872488960
>
>
>
> Three is enough. We need someone who went to a grammar school in Grantham or similar.
1 of the remaining 7 has merely endorsed another Etonian
https://twitter.com/NSoames/status/1133832256706027521?s=20
> > @AndreaParma_82 said:
>
> > Full recout in Ireland South Euro constituency asked by Sinn Fein who has been eliminatde being 300 votes behind the Greens.
>
>
>
> That was after the 18th count!
>
>
>
> The 200 polling staff must be so exhausted - they have already been working on the count for 4 days and now have to start all over again. There were 750,000 votes cast and the ballot paper is 2 foot long.
>
>
>
> And whoever wins in the end out of Sinn Fein and the Greens will have to wait for Brexit to happen before they can take their seat in Brussels. Saying that at this rate the count might still be ongoing on Halloween.
>
>
>
> They have also finally finished counting in Midlands north west - after only 13 counts.
>
> Another reason to keep FPTP: the sanity of those counting.
Wouldn't it be possible to scan the ballots papers into a computer and let it do all the work?
> How many of the candidates didn't go to a private school? (Like 93% of the population).
Raab, Javid, McVey, Leadsom, Harper I believe
> Any thoughts on why Leadsom has so few declared supporters so far (two per Guido, three per Wiki) and how this fits with her odds having come in so much in last few days that she is now joint 3rd favourite at 8.2?
I don't understand it at all unless she has a lot of undeclared supporters amongst the roughly 50% of Tory MPs who haven't endorsed a candidate yet.
https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1133882529335980032
https://twitter.com/SteveBakerHW/status/1133859828424568832?s=20
++++++++++++++
Here's why this isn't such a great idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc0FwoIsDMI
> > @Scott_P said:
> > Suggested elsewhere, it should not be illegal to lie in a campaign, but it should bar you from holding public office again...
>
> ----
>
> That is what happens now.
>
> 1. You lie (see N. Clegg).
>
> 2. Your political opponents nail the lie.
>
> 3. Electoral disaster looms (see N. Clegg).
>
> 4. You lose your seat (see N. Clegg).
>
> In the case of B. Johnston, the Remainers should nail his lie by ensuring he loses his seat.
>
> The fifth stage is of course
>
> 5. Sell out and get a massive salary to lie professionally for others (see N. Clegg).
>
> I expect B. Johnston's trajectory will be the same as N. Clegg's.
Good summary.
The Tory leadership hopeful gives impassioned speeches in the house about hedgehogs, and sees himself as the second coming of TE Lawrence. What’s not to like?"
https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2019/may/29/rory-stewarts-nerdiness-means-he-is-just-the-sort-of-oddball-the-british-love
https://twitter.com/addadc/status/1133428126221033473
> > @RobD said:
> > > @AndreaParma_82 said:
> >
> > > Full recout in Ireland South Euro constituency asked by Sinn Fein who has been eliminatde being 300 votes behind the Greens.
> >
> >
> >
> > That was after the 18th count!
> >
> >
> >
> > The 200 polling staff must be so exhausted - they have already been working on the count for 4 days and now have to start all over again. There were 750,000 votes cast and the ballot paper is 2 foot long.
> >
> >
> >
> > And whoever wins in the end out of Sinn Fein and the Greens will have to wait for Brexit to happen before they can take their seat in Brussels. Saying that at this rate the count might still be ongoing on Halloween.
> >
> >
> >
> > They have also finally finished counting in Midlands north west - after only 13 counts.
> >
> > Another reason to keep FPTP: the sanity of those counting.
>
> Wouldn't it be possible to scan the ballots papers into a computer and let it do all the work?
It is possible. It would be expensive to roll out the technology but not excessive. But in many countries the public and politicians are worry about accuracy/reliability and security of electronic counting systems.
> > @AndreaParma_82 said:
>
> > Full recout in Ireland South Euro constituency asked by Sinn Fein who has been eliminatde being 300 votes behind the Greens.
>
>
>
> That was after the 18th count!
>
>
>
> The 200 polling staff must be so exhausted - they have already been working on the count for 4 days and now have to start all over again. There were 750,000 votes cast and the ballot paper is 2 foot long.
>
>
>
> And whoever wins in the end out of Sinn Fein and the Greens will have to wait for Brexit to happen before they can take their seat in Brussels. Saying that at this rate the count might still be ongoing on Halloween.
>
>
>
> They have also finally finished counting in Midlands north west - after only 13 counts.
>
> Another reason to keep FPTP: the sanity of those counting.
Do you know that those polling staff are exhausted and becoming insane, or just presuming it?
> Johnson is a weak favourite and always has been.
>
>
>
> Can he really muster enough colleagues to be in the final list once the whittling down starts? I'm not sure he will.
>
> The membership will explode if he is not in final two (four?)...
I presume you don't mean that literally, unfortunately.