I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Essentially, you'd be betting on Andrew Adonis becoming Prime Minister.
Well Alastair Meeks pointed out that today Farage was matched at 44 to be next PM.
PM Farage will be be succeeded by a hard Remainer, so so someone like A.C. Grayling.
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
You honestly think we will have even left by then? Surely May's MV #4067 is pencilled in for March of that year?
It's funny you say that.
The person I struck the bet with back in 2016 thought it was a rare lapse by me, now he's convinced the only way he wins this bet is we don't Leave, as the bet was clearly for Rejoin
I am sure that there will be all kinds of off the record complaints about how May really has to go by January of that year. Bound to be. Even the 20th VONC will be getting talked about.
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
I'm yes. The recent methane discovery is promising
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
I'm yes. The recent methane discovery is promising
Interesting. I just think life would have resulted in higher oxygen levels, staining etc. The planet looks like it has been dead for millennia to me, possibly millions of years.
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
I'm yes. The recent methane discovery is promising
Interesting. I just think life would have resulted in higher oxygen levels, staining etc. The planet looks like it has been dead for millennia to me, possibly millions of years.
Well I'm not thinking of cities. But single cell life is very resilient and adaptable. I look at it as life is either nowhere else or everywhere else
From the Guardian Chelsea v Sparta Prague commentary.
“Rob,” says Ian Burch. “I seem to remember that Mr Bates wanted to introduce the electric fences after a full-scale riot when Sunderland knocked Chelsea out of a Milk Cup semi-final at the Bridge. Former Chelsea player Clive Walker raced through to score against his old club after being played onside by a mounted policeman on the pitch who was behind Chelsea’s back four at the time. God knows what VAR would have made of that.”
I hadn’t thought of that. Imagine VAR in English football in the 1980s! There would have been five riots per match, and you can imagine the equanimity with which Vinnie Jones might have responded upon hearing that VAR had ruled out his last-minute winner for GBH on the goalkeeper.
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
I'm yes. The recent methane discovery is promising
Interesting. I just think life would have resulted in higher oxygen levels, staining etc. The planet looks like it has been dead for millennia to me, possibly millions of years.
Well I'm not thinking of cities. But single cell life is very resilient and adaptable. I look at it as life is either nowhere else or everywhere else
The chances of anything coming from Mars is a million to one
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
I'm yes. The recent methane discovery is promising
Interesting. I just think life would have resulted in higher oxygen levels, staining etc. The planet looks like it has been dead for millennia to me, possibly millions of years.
Well I'm not thinking of cities. But single cell life is very resilient and adaptable. I look at it as life is either nowhere else or everywhere else
The chances of anything coming from Mars is a million to one
Hope you got similar odds!
Evens, a friends bet of a pony Slowly they are drawing their plans against us
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
I'm yes. The recent methane discovery is promising
Interesting. I just think life would have resulted in higher oxygen levels, staining etc. The planet looks like it has been dead for millennia to me, possibly millions of years.
Well I'm not thinking of cities. But single cell life is very resilient and adaptable. I look at it as life is either nowhere else or everywhere else
So you’re working on the basis it’s a godawful small affair?
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
I'm yes. The recent methane discovery is promising
Interesting. I just think life would have resulted in higher oxygen levels, staining etc. The planet looks like it has been dead for millennia to me, possibly millions of years.
Well I'm not thinking of cities. But single cell life is very resilient and adaptable. I look at it as life is either nowhere else or everywhere else
So you’re working on the basis it’s a godawful small affair?
The blue vs white question makes it seem like a binary division but the photo looks more like there is a continuous range from white to blue with various shades in between.
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
I'm yes. The recent methane discovery is promising
Interesting. I just think life would have resulted in higher oxygen levels, staining etc. The planet looks like it has been dead for millennia to me, possibly millions of years.
Well I'm not thinking of cities. But single cell life is very resilient and adaptable. I look at it as life is either nowhere else or everywhere else
So you’re working on the basis it’s a godawful small affair?
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
I have found an interesting comment from Vote UK Forum: 'It is the view of a few SNP MPs in this area - and I agree with them - that if it looks likely Labour will win the next election, Labour will take around a dozen seats off the SNP in the Clyde valley area.' People can make of that what they wish!
One makes as much of it as of any other anecdote which flies in the face of opinion poll and other local election evidence all of which suggests Labour is going backwards in Scotland.
The polling evidence - for Westminster elections in Scotland - is not that clear at all , but Labour have recently experienced two poor Local By election results there.
The most recent polls show both Tories and SNP stable or rising with Labour falling - so actually - very clear.
The blue vs white question makes it seem like a binary division but the photo looks more like there is a continuous range from white to blue with various shades in between.
Unified Germany plus USSR and Yugoslavia plants it firmly to 1991, which means it’s fairly old. If it’s been on display on a wall all that time the colours could be as mundane as a wider range having faded away to just two.
The blue vs white question makes it seem like a binary division but the photo looks more like there is a continuous range from white to blue with various shades in between.
Unified Germany plus USSR and Yugoslavia plants it firmly to 1991, which means it’s fairly old. If it’s been on display on a wall all that time the colours could be as mundane as a wider range having faded away to just two.
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
You honestly think we will have even left by then? Surely May's MV #4067 is pencilled in for March of that year?
Have a vote every year on March 29th, similar to how we used to have annual renewal of anti-terror legislation, and still, I think, annually renew the temporary income tax.
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
The numbers I crunched from early polling actually suggested a 6 way split for SW, which amused me.
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
My MP Dame Eleanor Laing as Deputy Speaker is certainly in the running to succeed Bercow and would do an excellent job (she was also a Leaver but backed May's Deal)
The blue vs white question makes it seem like a binary division but the photo looks more like there is a continuous range from white to blue with various shades in between.
Unified Germany plus USSR and Yugoslavia plants it firmly to 1991, which means it’s fairly old. If it’s been on display on a wall all that time the colours could be as mundane as a wider range having faded away to just two.
Only blue is usually the first colour to fade.
Different colour that faded to blue? I dunno how the half-lives of pigments work so it's just a guess!
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
My longest bet ever is that the sitting US President doesn't confirm the discovery of alien life by 2020. Placed in early 2013 with Paddy Power at 2/1.
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
I'd expect a result in the South West along the lines of Brexit, Conservative, Labour, Brexit, Lib Dem or Green, Conservative.
It does look like I was completely wrong about the potential for confusion between Farage, UKIP and the Brexit party. Recent opinion polls would suggest that the Brexit party will obliterate UKIP.
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
My longest bet ever is that the sitting US President doesn't confirm the discovery of alien life by 2020. Placed in early 2013 with Paddy Power at 2/1.
It does look like I was completely wrong about the potential for confusion between Farage, UKIP and the Brexit party. Recent opinion polls would suggest that the Brexit party will obliterate UKIP.
Theres also every UKIP TV appearance being a train wreck of far right awfulness
The blue vs white question makes it seem like a binary division but the photo looks more like there is a continuous range from white to blue with various shades in between.
Unified Germany plus USSR and Yugoslavia plants it firmly to 1991, which means it’s fairly old. If it’s been on display on a wall all that time the colours could be as mundane as a wider range having faded away to just two.
Could it be as simple as white shows the countries where said client was operating in 1991?
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
My longest bet ever is that the sitting US President doesn't confirm the discovery of alien life by 2020. Placed in early 2013 with Paddy Power at 2/1.
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
My longest bet ever is that the sitting US President doesn't confirm the discovery of alien life by 2020. Placed in early 2013 with Paddy Power at 2/1.
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
I'd expect a result in the South West along the lines of Brexit, Conservative, Labour, Brexit, Lib Dem or Green, Conservative.
I will be very surprised indeed if the Greens don't take at least one seat in the SW. I would have said there's a non-trivial chance they could outflank Labour from the left and pick up two. Bristol and Stroud are happy hunting grounds for them, while there are going to be a lot of seriously pissed off lefties in Bournemouth plus students in Exeter and Plymouth to target as the only unambiguously pro-Remain party untainted by previous disasters.
If they lose their seat, they've had a pretty dismal night.
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
The numbers I crunched from early polling actually suggested a 6 way split for SW, which amused me.
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
It's a low income region. Polls show lower income people are the more concerned about no deal Brexit.
The blue vs white question makes it seem like a binary division but the photo looks more like there is a continuous range from white to blue with various shades in between.
Unified Germany plus USSR and Yugoslavia plants it firmly to 1991, which means it’s fairly old. If it’s been on display on a wall all that time the colours could be as mundane as a wider range having faded away to just two.
The blue vs white question makes it seem like a binary division but the photo looks more like there is a continuous range from white to blue with various shades in between.
Unified Germany plus USSR and Yugoslavia plants it firmly to 1991, which means it’s fairly old. If it’s been on display on a wall all that time the colours could be as mundane as a wider range having faded away to just two.
Only blue is usually the first colour to fade.
Different colour that faded to blue? I dunno how the half-lives of pigments work so it's just a guess!
If the blue-white division were meaningful it would be explained with a key. If there were a key there would be no mystery. Therefore it must be faded colours
The shade of blue looks very much like the cyan used in most paper printing. Therefore the yellow and magenta have faded to nothing.
The blue vs white question makes it seem like a binary division but the photo looks more like there is a continuous range from white to blue with various shades in between.
There is. It's an old map, that has been in a light spot on a wall for a long time. Originally each country had a unique colour, but the ink has faded and the blue pigment has outlast the other inks that have faded away.
Actually the second on the Labour EM list sounds decent too, Leonie Mathers. Hucknall born, former aide to Yvette Cooper. That may well be where my tactical vote goes. Under Dehondt a second Labour MEP may well be a a better outcome than the rather less likely Green or LD.
The Labour MEP selections are quite interesting and give some hope to those of us who hope that the party is not completely lost to the Corbynites. There has been no attempt to deselect sitting MEPs, despite the fact that hardly any of them are Corbyn supporters and the selection of Adonis, marmite though he is, in a potentially winnable position sends quite a powerful message to remainers and PV campaigners who might be thinking about switching to TIG or the Lib Dems.
There's been almost no deselections at Westminster level either - 11 deselected themselves, admittedly in some cases after votes of no confidence.
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
The numbers I crunched from early polling actually suggested a 6 way split for SW, which amused me.
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
It's a low income region. Polls show lower income people are the more concerned about no deal Brexit.
I think that's an unhelpful generalisation. The South West is pretty diverse. You have Cornwall, which I think is the poorest county in England and heavily reliant on tourism, but you have Bournemouth and Bristol which are both wealthy.
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
Actually the second on the Labour EM list sounds decent too, Leonie Mathers. Hucknall born, former aide to Yvette Cooper. That may well be where my tactical vote goes. Under Dehondt a second Labour MEP may well be a a better outcome than the rather less likely Green or LD.
The Labour MEP selections are quite interesting and give some hope to those of us who hope that the party is not completely lost to the Corbynites. There has been no attempt to deselect sitting MEPs, despite the fact that hardly any of them are Corbyn supporters and the selection of Adonis, marmite though he is, in a potentially winnable position sends quite a powerful message to remainers and PV campaigners who might be thinking about switching to TIG or the Lib Dems.
There's been almost no deselections at Westminster level either - 11 deselected themselves, admittedly in some cases after votes of no confidence.
Well, we all know votes of no-confidence, even of five to one, are not binding in Labour.
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
The numbers I crunched from early polling actually suggested a 6 way split for SW, which amused me.
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
It's a low income region. Polls show lower income people are the more concerned about no deal Brexit.
I think that's an unhelpful generalisation. The South West is pretty diverse. You have Cornwall, which I think is the poorest county in England and heavily reliant on tourism, but you have Bournemouth and Bristol which are both wealthy.
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
Christ, you know you are having a bad day when you get called insular and parochial by a Welshman.
You are right, mind you. I regard everything east of Exeter as abroad.
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
The numbers I crunched from early polling actually suggested a 6 way split for SW, which amused me.
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
It's a low income region. Polls show lower income people are the more concerned about no deal Brexit.
I think that's an unhelpful generalisation. The South West is pretty diverse. You have Cornwall, which I think is the poorest county in England and heavily reliant on tourism, but you have Bournemouth and Bristol which are both wealthy.
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
Celtic innit. Its the British in them fighting the English over eastwards
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
My longest bet ever is that the sitting US President doesn't confirm the discovery of alien life by 2020. Placed in early 2013 with Paddy Power at 2/1.
Not a fan of the disclosure movement then?!
Indeed! Also yet another reason I'd have preferred President Clinton. You never know what Trump will announce next...
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
Christ, you know you are having a bad day when you get called insular and parochial by a Welshman.
You are right, mind you. I regard everything east of Exeter as abroad.
It's even worse than that. I'm a Welshman who was brought up in the Forest of Dean. There 'local' is the village, and further afield is 'way off.'
Edit - true story. Many years ago I met a man in Kingham in Gloucestershire who must have been approaching sixty, who said he had only left Kingham once in his life. I was rather startled and asked where he had gone. 'Oh, way off,' he said. 'It were Chipping Norton.'
I remember not so long ago PB Leavers said Brexit would have been a success if Mrs May was replaced by David Davis or if Mrs May had let David Davis get on with Brexit.
What fools.
The Brexit inquiry will see the likes of David Davis and Stewart Jackson locked up.
You wanting a bet on that?
Sure.
Come up with some terms/time frames and we can talk.
We need to cover the option if they recant their views or if there’s a drumhead style trial.
Ok, its a long bet but if I will offer you evens on neither being convicted (let alone imprisoned) of a Brexit related offence within 5 years of this date. £50?
Make it a decade.
After all the publication of the Chilcot report was 12 years after Blair persuaded Parliament to support the invasion of Iraq.
Ah, but I may not be alive by then. 5 years is a long, long time on an internet bet.
I think the longest bet I have is a private bet that we'll have rejoined the EU by 2030.
I've got about 6 years left on a 25 year bet that evidence of current life on Mars will be discovered
Which side are you on? I would be on the "no" side. I suspect if we were going to find it we would have found traces of it by now.
My longest bet ever is that the sitting US President doesn't confirm the discovery of alien life by 2020. Placed in early 2013 with Paddy Power at 2/1.
Not a fan of the disclosure movement then?!
Indeed! Also yet another reason I'd have preferred President Clinton. You never know what Trump will announce next...
Clinton's campaign director and Bill's chief of staff John Podesta is a big pusher for disclosure, Clinton of the Bill variety dropped a famously big hint about the supposed cover up in Ireland, he referred to a letter from a young boy about Roswell saying he hadn't been told either and he wants to know. The letter doesn't actually exist it transpires
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
The numbers I crunched from early polling actually suggested a 6 way split for SW, which amused me.
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
It's a low income region. Polls show lower income people are the more concerned about no deal Brexit.
I think that's an unhelpful generalisation. The South West is pretty diverse. You have Cornwall, which I think is the poorest county in England and heavily reliant on tourism, but you have Bournemouth and Bristol which are both wealthy.
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
The Lib Dems in the South West did not realise that a lot of their voters were eurosceptic.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
I shook on a bet, whose take up was conditional on Scottish independence, that an independent Scotland woul have a Conservative or successor party government within 20 years of going it alone.
Even though the condition that would have triggered the bet into life was not met, I feel very well vindicated by Scottish Polling these days.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
"Oh no, you did NOT shoot that green shit at me!" - Will Smith in "Independence Day".
I have found an interesting comment from Vote UK Forum: 'It is the view of a few SNP MPs in this area - and I agree with them - that if it looks likely Labour will win the next election, Labour will take around a dozen seats off the SNP in the Clyde valley area.' People can make of that what they wish!
One makes as much of it as of any other anecdote which flies in the face of opinion poll and other local election evidence all of which suggests Labour is going backwards in Scotland.
The polling evidence - for Westminster elections in Scotland - is not that clear at all , but Labour have recently experienced two poor Local By election results there.
The most recent polls show both Tories and SNP stable or rising with Labour falling - so actually - very clear.
The most regular pollsters in Scotland appear to be Survation and Panelbase. Survation's most recent surveys - 01/03/19 - 04/03/19 - SNP 40 Con 24 Lab 23 LD 8 09/11/18 - 13/11/18 - SNP 39 Con26 Lab 24 LD 8 20/10/18 - 02/11/18 - SNP 40 Con 27 Lab 23 LD 7 18/10/18 - 21/10/18 - SNP 36.5 Con 27.5 Lab 26 LD 7.5 03/10/18 - 05/10/18 - SNP 37 Con 28 Lab 26 LD 6 28/09/18 - 02/10/18 - SNP 41 Con 26 Lab 24 LD 7 05/07/18 - 10/07/18 - SNP 42 Con 24 Lab 23 LD 8
I am not sure that I can see a clear trend over that 8 month period.
Panelbase most recent surveys- 28/02/19 - 06/03/19 - SNP 37 Con 27 Lab 22 LD 7 30/11/18 - 05/12/18 - SNP 37 Con 26 Lab 26 LD 6 02/11/18 - 07/11/18 - SNP 37 Con 28 Lab 25 LD 7 28/09/18 - 04/10/18 - SNP 38 Con 27 Lab 24 LD 6 21/06/18 - 26/06/18 - SNP 38 Con 27 Lab 25 LD 7
Again , there is not much which stands out there - maybe a slight dip in Labour support at beginning of March but that coincided with the TIG defections and the latest anti-Semitic row and was reflected in a drop in Labour support across GB with the Tories taking a clear lead for a few weeks. Nothing Scotland specific there - and there has been no recent polling.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
"Oh no, you did NOT shoot that green shit at me!" - Will Smith in "Independence Day".
Clinton's campaign director and Bill's chief of staff John Podesta is a big pusher for disclosure, Clinton of the Bill variety dropped a famously big hint about the supposed cover up in Ireland, he referred to a letter from a young boy about Roswell saying he hadn't been told either and he wants to know. The letter doesn't actually exist it transpires
The key difference in my mind is that Trump might announce it as soon as he was told, whereas Clinton would have spent 6-12 months waiting on formal confirmation if it was a new discovery or probably gone along with the coverup if they know already.
Clinton's campaign director and Bill's chief of staff John Podesta is a big pusher for disclosure, Clinton of the Bill variety dropped a famously big hint about the supposed cover up in Ireland, he referred to a letter from a young boy about Roswell saying he hadn't been told either and he wants to know. The letter doesn't actually exist it transpires
The key difference in my mind is that Trump might announce it as soon as he was told, whereas Clinton would have spent 6-12 months waiting on formal confirmation if it was a new discovery or probably gone along with the coverup if they know already.
Clinton is very deep state so yeah she'd do as shes told! Trump is a loose cannon for sure
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
A few years ago the University of Lund published a study focused on what personal steps make the biggest difference. One of the 5 big hitters was, surprisingly, moving to green energy. And for me at least the cost difference is well under £50 per year via the price comparison sites. The others were (in no order):
1. Ditching a car; 2. Going vegan; 3. Stopping flying ('Cutting one transatlantic flight per year'); and 4. Having one fewer child (By far the most controversial and possibly the most significant).
Even if you ignore #4 as harder to measure and more unpredictable (who knows what lifestyle choices they will make and what technology will be available to them) I think the others are a solid evidence-based roadmap for trying to have a serious impact on a personal level. I'm up to about 2.5 out of 4 (not vegan or even veggie, still fly sometimes, green electricity but gas heating). I hope to stop flying after a family trip this year, but it can be surprisingly difficult societally to turn down certain family or work trips.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
Humanity could just have a mass suicide pact! That'd solve the problem!
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
The numbers I crunched from early polling actually suggested a 6 way split for SW, which amused me.
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
It's a low income region. Polls show lower income people are the more concerned about no deal Brexit.
I think that's an unhelpful generalisation. The South West is pretty diverse. You have Cornwall, which I think is the poorest county in England and heavily reliant on tourism, but you have Bournemouth and Bristol which are both wealthy.
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
LOL "The South West is pretty diverse..." followed by "...people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial"
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
Humanity could just have a mass suicide pact! That'd solve the problem!
If you believe some reports then we already do. Other reports are less alarmist, but the consensus ones are plenty bad imho.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
A few years ago the University of Lund published a study focused on what personal steps make the biggest difference. One of the 5 big hitters was, surprisingly, moving to green energy. And for me at least the cost difference is well under £50 per year via the price comparison sites. The others were (in no order):
1. Ditching a car; 2. Going vegan; 3. Stopping flying ('Cutting one transatlantic flight per year'); and 4. Having one fewer child (By far the most controversial and possibly the most significant).
Even if you ignore #4 as harder to measure and more unpredictable (who knows what lifestyle choices they will make and what technology will be available to them) I think the others are a solid evidence-based roadmap for trying to have a serious impact on a personal level. I'm up to about 3 out of 4 (not vegan or even veggie, still fly sometimes, green electricity but gas heating).
Thanks. I will get onto renewable tariffs tomorrow. It will be embarrassing if the difference is that small. My wife's car is clapped out. We will look to replace it with at least a hybrid. She almost exclusively does town driving so that should work. Veganism is frankly not going to happen and my contribution to population growth (3) is already fixed. But more fish and less meat is already indicated.
My MP Dame Eleanor Laing as Deputy Speaker is certainly in the running to succeed Bercow and would do an excellent job (she was also a Leaver but backed May's Deal)
I guess a Labour candidate is likely to win if the contest is held in the current parliament. It is Labour's turn to provide a speaker, and they will be more likely to unite behind one of their own than the Tories, who will inevitably see the contest through the prism of Brexit and try to elect a leaver.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
Humanity could just have a mass suicide pact! That'd solve the problem!
Or there's always the giant comet associated with the Taurid meteor stream...
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
Humanity could just have a mass suicide pact! That'd solve the problem!
Labour candidates for Euro elections South West Region
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
The numbers I crunched from early polling actually suggested a 6 way split for SW, which amused me.
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
It's a low income region. Polls show lower income people are the more concerned about no deal Brexit.
I think that's an unhelpful generalisation. The South West is pretty diverse. You have Cornwall, which I think is the poorest county in England and heavily reliant on tourism, but you have Bournemouth and Bristol which are both wealthy.
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
LOL "The South West is pretty diverse..." followed by "...people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial"
Damn
Although in all seriousness, one reason it is so diverse is because it is so parochial.
It's more amusing really that I've criticised somebody else for generalising...
Clare Moody MEP Andrew Adonis Jayne Kirkham Neil Guild Yvonne Atkinson Sadik Al Hassan
So he's only second. Good chance he won't get elected anyway.
In the South west, he's almost certain not to be elected.
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
There are actually six seats up in the SW region!
Oops
The numbers I crunched from early polling actually suggested a 6 way split for SW, which amused me.
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
It's a low income region. Polls show lower income people are the more concerned about no deal Brexit.
I think that's an unhelpful generalisation. The South West is pretty diverse. You have Cornwall, which I think is the poorest county in England and heavily reliant on tourism, but you have Bournemouth and Bristol which are both wealthy.
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
LOL "The South West is pretty diverse..." followed by "...people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial"
Damn
Although in all seriousness, one reason it is so diverse is because it is so parochial.
It's more amusing really that I've criticised somebody else for generalising...
We all do it.
This part of the SW (Dorset) is not especially anti-London imo because quite a few people have moved here from London and many others work or used to work in London.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
A few years ago the University of Lund published a study focused on what personal steps make the biggest difference. One of the 5 big hitters was, surprisingly, moving to green energy. And for me at least the cost difference is well under £50 per year via the price comparison sites. The others were (in no order):
1. Ditching a car; 2. Going vegan; 3. Stopping flying ('Cutting one transatlantic flight per year'); and 4. Having one fewer child (By far the most controversial and possibly the most significant).
Even if you ignore #4 as harder to measure and more unpredictable (who knows what lifestyle choices they will make and what technology will be available to them) I think the others are a solid evidence-based roadmap for trying to have a serious impact on a personal level. I'm up to about 2.5 out of 4 (not vegan or even veggie, still fly sometimes, green electricity but gas heating). I hope to stop flying after a family trip this year, but it can be surprisingly difficult societally to turn down certain family or work trips.
This part of the SW (Dorset) is not especially anti-London imo because quite a few people have moved here from London and many others work or used to work in London.
And yet elsewhere that is itself a source of tension because incomers push up property prices (or buy second homes/holiday lets) which freeze out the locals.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
A few years ago the University of Lund published a study focused on what personal steps make the biggest difference. One of the 5 big hitters was, surprisingly, moving to green energy. And for me at least the cost difference is well under £50 per year via the price comparison sites. The others were (in no order):
1. Ditching a car; 2. Going vegan; 3. Stopping flying ('Cutting one transatlantic flight per year'); and 4. Having one fewer child (By far the most controversial and possibly the most significant).
Even if you ignore #4 as harder to measure and more unpredictable (who knows what lifestyle choices they will make and what technology will be available to them) I think the others are a solid evidence-based roadmap for trying to have a serious impact on a personal level. I'm up to about 3 out of 4 (not vegan or even veggie, still fly sometimes, green electricity but gas heating).
Thanks. I will get onto renewable tariffs tomorrow. It will be embarrassing if the difference is that small. My wife's car is clapped out. We will look to replace it with at least a hybrid. She almost exclusively does town driving so that should work. Veganism is frankly not going to happen and my contribution to population growth (3) is already fixed. But more fish and less meat is already indicated.
I salute your attitude. Veganism does not have to happen to make a contribution. Try one meal a week to start with. The range, quality and availability of ingredients has improved markedly recently. Quorn sausage toad in the hole is good, as is quorn curry with coconut milk. And there are plenty of types of tofu in supermarkets for stir fries.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
A few years ago the University of Lund published a study focused on what personal steps make the biggest difference. One of the 5 big hitters was, surprisingly, moving to green energy. And for me at least the cost difference is well under £50 per year via the price comparison sites. The others were (in no order):
1. Ditching a car; 2. Going vegan; 3. Stopping flying ('Cutting one transatlantic flight per year'); and 4. Having one fewer child (By far the most controversial and possibly the most significant).
Even if you ignore #4 as harder to measure and more unpredictable (who knows what lifestyle choices they will make and what technology will be available to them) I think the others are a solid evidence-based roadmap for trying to have a serious impact on a personal level. I'm up to about 3 out of 4 (not vegan or even veggie, still fly sometimes, green electricity but gas heating).
Thanks. I will get onto renewable tariffs tomorrow. It will be embarrassing if the difference is that small. My wife's car is clapped out. We will look to replace it with at least a hybrid. She almost exclusively does town driving so that should work. Veganism is frankly not going to happen and my contribution to population growth (3) is already fixed. But more fish and less meat is already indicated.
Re: cars I'd also suggest considering an e-bike. You can get trailers/pannier bags etc for cargo, and I know lot of people who have tried them for replacing one car have been converts. Not sure if you can hire one for a month or something to trial it.
This part of the SW (Dorset) is not especially anti-London imo because quite a few people have moved here from London and many others work or used to work in London.
And yet elsewhere that is itself a source of tension because incomers push up property prices (or buy second homes/holiday lets) which freeze out the locals.
Good night one and all.
Yes, it is a source of tension but it does also add to the diversity of views; the incomers have a vote too!
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
Humanity could just have a mass suicide pact! That'd solve the problem!
Or just maybe Thanos had a point.
It's a good observation, It reminds me of something interesting, something relevant, something, oh, oh, let me think, oh I know! (snaps fingers)
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
Christ, you know you are having a bad day when you get called insular and parochial by a Welshman.
You are right, mind you. I regard everything east of Exeter as abroad.
It's even worse than that. I'm a Welshman who was brought up in the Forest of Dean. There 'local' is the village, and further afield is 'way off.'
Edit - true story. Many years ago I met a man in Kingham in Gloucestershire who must have been approaching sixty, who said he had only left Kingham once in his life. I was rather startled and asked where he had gone. 'Oh, way off,' he said. 'It were Chipping Norton.'
Actually the second on the Labour EM list sounds decent too, Leonie Mathers. Hucknall born, former aide to Yvette Cooper. That may well be where my tactical vote goes. Under Dehondt a second Labour MEP may well be a a better outcome than the rather less likely Green or LD.
The Labour MEP selections are quite interesting and give some hope to those of us who hope that the party is not completely lost to the Corbynites. There has been no attempt to deselect sitting MEPs, despite the fact that hardly any of them are Corbyn supporters and the selection of Adonis, marmite though he is, in a potentially winnable position sends quite a powerful message to remainers and PV campaigners who might be thinking about switching to TIG or the Lib Dems.
Possibly, there were strong rumours of attempted shenanigans, though these were defeated.
Blunt is wasting his time. Bercow is protected by Tory Remainers like Grieve, Letwin and Clarke acting alongside Labour etc. Trying to remove him is a sign of the intellectual bankruptcy of MPs on all sides of the House just as allowing him to stay despite his evident bias on matters like Brexit brings British politics into disrepute and makes it at international laughing stock.
So the anger at pivoting to trying a deal with labour.. how do they propose to pass a deal without that given they cannot make the EU give the DUP what they want? Given no deal will not be supported either.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
Humanity could just have a mass suicide pact! That'd solve the problem!
If you believe some reports then we already do. Other reports are less alarmist, but the consensus ones are plenty bad imho.
Yes, Med temperatures in the South, saving on holiday bills and a boost for English wine, albeit with greater risk of flooding too.
In any case it is China, the USA and India who need to move to more renewables, what we do will make little difference either way
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
A few years ago the University of Lund published a study focused on what personal steps make the biggest difference. One of the 5 big hitters was, surprisingly, moving to green energy. And for me at least the cost difference is well under £50 per year via the price comparison sites. The others were (in no order):
1. Ditching a car; 2. Going vegan; 3. Stopping flying ('Cutting one transatlantic flight per year'); and 4. Having one fewer child (By far the most controversial and possibly the most significant).
Even if you ignore #4 as harder to measure and more unpredictable (who knows what lifestyle choices they will make and what technology will be available to them) I think the others are a solid evidence-based roadmap for trying to have a serious impact on a personal level. I'm up to about 3 out of 4 (not vegan or even veggie, still fly sometimes, green electricity but gas heating).
Thanks. I will get onto renewable tariffs tomorrow. It will be embarrassing if the difference is that small. My wife's car is clapped out. We will look to replace it with at least a hybrid. She almost exclusively does town driving so that should work. Veganism is frankly not going to happen and my contribution to population growth (3) is already fixed. But more fish and less meat is already indicated.
I salute your attitude. Veganism does not have to happen to make a contribution. Try one meal a week to start with. The range, quality and availability of ingredients has improved markedly recently. Quorn sausage toad in the hole is good, as is quorn curry with coconut milk. And there are plenty of types of tofu in supermarkets for stir fries.
Ps, I speak as a lapsed vegan.
Linda McCartney sausages are far better than quorn, and make a fine toad in the hole.
My MP Dame Eleanor Laing as Deputy Speaker is certainly in the running to succeed Bercow and would do an excellent job (she was also a Leaver but backed May's Deal)
I guess a Labour candidate is likely to win if the contest is held in the current parliament. It is Labour's turn to provide a speaker, and they will be more likely to unite behind one of their own than the Tories, who will inevitably see the contest through the prism of Brexit and try to elect a leaver.
Bercow has effectively already been a Labour Speaker, the Tories wanted Sir George Young and before Bercow we had 2 more Labour Speakers, Michael Martin and Betty Boothroyd
So the anger at pivoting to trying a deal with labour.. how do they propose to pass a deal without that given they cannot make the EU give the DUP what they want? Given no deal will not be supported either.
It does not need to be supported, No Deal is the default still if the Withdrawal Agreement is not passed by the end of October, the Commons can request another extension but that relies on the EU agreeing again and Macron not vetoing this time
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
Humanity could just have a mass suicide pact! That'd solve the problem!
If you believe some reports then we already do. Other reports are less alarmist, but the consensus ones are plenty bad imho.
Yes, Med temperatures in the South, saving on holiday bills and a boost for English wine, albeit with greater risk of flooding too.
In any case it is China, the USA and India who need to move to more renewables, what we do will make little difference either way
Very complacent attitude, and quite a lot of progress on climate change with many emerging economies. Trump is a selfish dumbass but we all knew that already.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
A few years ago the University of Lund published a study focused on what personal steps make the biggest difference. One of the 5 big hitters was, surprisingly, moving to green energy. And for me at least the cost difference is well under £50 per year via the price comparison sites. The others were (in no order):
1. Ditching a car; 2. Going vegan; 3. Stopping flying ('Cutting one transatlantic flight per year'); and 4. Having one fewer child (By far the most controversial and possibly the most significant).
Even if you ignore #4 as harder to measure and more unpredictable (who knows what lifestyle choices they will make and what technology will be available to them) I think the others are a solid evidence-based roadmap for trying to have a serious impact on a personal level. I'm up to about 3 out of 4 (not vegan or even veggie, still fly sometimes, green electricity but gas heating).
Thanks. I will get onto renewable tariffs tomorrow. It will be embarrassing if the difference is that small. My wife's car is clapped out. We will look to replace it with at least a hybrid. She almost exclusively does town driving so that should work. Veganism is frankly not going to happen and my contribution to population growth (3) is already fixed. But more fish and less meat is already indicated.
So the anger at pivoting to trying a deal with labour.. how do they propose to pass a deal without that given they cannot make the EU give the DUP what they want? Given no deal will not be supported either.
It does not need to be supported, No Deal is the default still if the Withdrawal Agreement is not passed by the end of October, the Commons can request another extension but that relies on the EU agreeing again and Macron not vetoing this time
Which I do not think he would. Why then if not now? The EU blinked and allowed a blind extension, theyd do it again. And the point about no deal not being g supported is that if means a government trying for it will fail- wed get another Letwin Cooper Bill, and if the EU look like saying no if we dont provide a reason the commons would come up with something.
Attenborough. A slightly annoying mixture of the portentous and the alarming. But still.
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
Humanity could just have a mass suicide pact! That'd solve the problem!
If you believe some reports then we already do. Other reports are less alarmist, but the consensus ones are plenty bad imho.
Yes, Med temperatures in the South, saving on holiday bills and a boost for English wine, albeit with greater risk of flooding too.
In any case it is China, the USA and India who need to move to more renewables, what we do will make little difference either way
Very complacent attitude, and quite a lot of progress on climate change with many emerging economies. Trump is a selfish dumbass but we all knew that already.
Blunt is wasting his time. Bercow is protected by Tory Remainers like Grieve, Letwin and Clarke acting alongside Labour etc. Trying to remove him is a sign of the intellectual bankruptcy of MPs on all sides of the House just as allowing him to stay despite his evident bias on matters like Brexit brings British politics into disrepute and makes it at international laughing stock.
Seeing as it has been stated that the Government is onside with getting rid of him, I thought that proposition would be. Leave now and you can be a Lord. Do not leave now and the Tory party will not sanction that elevation.
So the anger at pivoting to trying a deal with labour.. how do they propose to pass a deal without that given they cannot make the EU give the DUP what they want? Given no deal will not be supported either.
It does not need to be supported, No Deal is the default still if the Withdrawal Agreement is not passed by the end of October, the Commons can request another extension but that relies on the EU agreeing again and Macron not vetoing this time
Which I do not think he would. Why then if not now? The EU blinked and allowed a blind extension, theyd do it again. And the point about no deal not being g supported is that if means a government trying for it will fail- wed get another Letwin Cooper Bill, and if the EU look like saying no if we dont provide a reason the commons would come up with something.
Quite. The EU will not want to kick a member out - France might huff and puff but the fact is that turning the UK into a humiliated supplicant unable to decide how, or even if, to leave is actually a very good result for the EU27. The UK will be shorn of political influence but still paying the bills - what's not to like for the 27?
Blunt is wasting his time. Bercow is protected by Tory Remainers like Grieve, Letwin and Clarke acting alongside Labour etc. Trying to remove him is a sign of the intellectual bankruptcy of MPs on all sides of the House just as allowing him to stay despite his evident bias on matters like Brexit brings British politics into disrepute and makes it at international laughing stock.
Seeing as it has been stated that the Government is onside with getting rid of him, I thought that proposition would be. Leave now and you can be a Lord. Do not leave now and the Tory party will not sanction that elevation.
Blunt is wasting his time. Bercow is protected by Tory Remainers like Grieve, Letwin and Clarke acting alongside Labour etc. Trying to remove him is a sign of the intellectual bankruptcy of MPs on all sides of the House just as allowing him to stay despite his evident bias on matters like Brexit brings British politics into disrepute and makes it at international laughing stock.
Seeing as it has been stated that the Government is onside with getting rid of him, I thought that proposition would be. Leave now and you can be a Lord. Do not leave now and the Tory party will not sanction that elevation.
That would be a poor move, because you can be sure the next government will sanction it and they'll look petty as well. Fact is not all Tories are in board with getting rid of Bercow and not enough others are. Indeed, for some he could do anything and be supported because hes more useful in place
Blunt is wasting his time. Bercow is protected by Tory Remainers like Grieve, Letwin and Clarke acting alongside Labour etc. Trying to remove him is a sign of the intellectual bankruptcy of MPs on all sides of the House just as allowing him to stay despite his evident bias on matters like Brexit brings British politics into disrepute and makes it at international laughing stock.
Seeing as it has been stated that the Government is onside with getting rid of him, I thought that proposition would be. Leave now and you can be a Lord. Do not leave now and the Tory party will not sanction that elevation.
The government is actively seeking a Buckingham byelection?
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https://twitter.com/M_PaulMcNamara/status/1118932991592554497
PM Farage will be be succeeded by a hard Remainer, so so someone like A.C. Grayling.
“Rob,” says Ian Burch. “I seem to remember that Mr Bates wanted to introduce the electric fences after a full-scale riot when Sunderland knocked Chelsea out of a Milk Cup semi-final at the Bridge. Former Chelsea player Clive Walker raced through to score against his old club after being played onside by a mounted policeman on the pitch who was behind Chelsea’s back four at the time. God knows what VAR would have made of that.”
I hadn’t thought of that. Imagine VAR in English football in the 1980s! There would have been five riots per match, and you can imagine the equanimity with which Vinnie Jones might have responded upon hearing that VAR had ruled out his last-minute winner for GBH on the goalkeeper.
Hope you got similar odds!
Slowly they are drawing their plans against us
There are only four seats up. Brexit will top the polls, and so get first shot at the second seat. And then there are the greens, the conservatives and the libdems.
The only real question is whether the libdems/greens get the fourth seat, or whether brexit gets it
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/04/18/toxic-theresa-tory-election-candidates-refusing-mention-mays/
But again caveat: I used 2014 regional strengths and not early poillng subsets suggesting Brexit doing somewhat better in South and somewhat worse in North than 2014, and thus further suggesting the type of pure Tory -> Farage swing that was posited but didn't quite happen for GE 2015.
I'd fully expect Brexit to gain at least 2 MEPs in SW, maybe even 3.
If they lose their seat, they've had a pretty dismal night.
The shade of blue looks very much like the cyan used in most paper printing. Therefore the yellow and magenta have faded to nothing.
The more pertinent point I would suggest is people across the whole area from Tewkesbury in the north right down to Falmouth tend to be very insular and parochial. What matters to them is what happens in their neighbourhood. Anywhere else, not of interest. They regard London with suspicion and freuqently dislike, never mind Brussels. Which is I would suggest why it has been one and the same time a Liberal Democrat stronghold and happy hunting ground for Brexit.
Just ask Mr Corbyn.
You are right, mind you. I regard everything east of Exeter as abroad.
Edit - true story. Many years ago I met a man in Kingham in Gloucestershire who must have been approaching sixty, who said he had only left Kingham once in his life. I was rather startled and asked where he had gone. 'Oh, way off,' he said. 'It were Chipping Norton.'
(Anyone who doesn't get it, look at a map.)
I need to stop buying air freighted vegetables. Should they have to bear a logo showing that they are?
I need to cut back on beef (lamb already off the agenda for health reasons).
I need to think seriously about and investigate the cost of renewable energy tariffs.
I will not buy another diesel car.
What else? There must be more. Most of the damage to the climate is not happening here. Surely our aid budget should be focused on reducing the extent of climate change by protecting forests, improving recycling in the third world, helping them to develop renewable energy systems etc.
Even though the condition that would have triggered the bet into life was not met, I feel very well vindicated by Scottish Polling these days.
- Will Smith in "Independence Day".
Survation's most recent surveys -
01/03/19 - 04/03/19 - SNP 40 Con 24 Lab 23 LD 8
09/11/18 - 13/11/18 - SNP 39 Con26 Lab 24 LD 8
20/10/18 - 02/11/18 - SNP 40 Con 27 Lab 23 LD 7
18/10/18 - 21/10/18 - SNP 36.5 Con 27.5 Lab 26 LD 7.5
03/10/18 - 05/10/18 - SNP 37 Con 28 Lab 26 LD 6
28/09/18 - 02/10/18 - SNP 41 Con 26 Lab 24 LD 7
05/07/18 - 10/07/18 - SNP 42 Con 24 Lab 23 LD 8
I am not sure that I can see a clear trend over that 8 month period.
Panelbase most recent surveys-
28/02/19 - 06/03/19 - SNP 37 Con 27 Lab 22 LD 7
30/11/18 - 05/12/18 - SNP 37 Con 26 Lab 26 LD 6
02/11/18 - 07/11/18 - SNP 37 Con 28 Lab 25 LD 7
28/09/18 - 04/10/18 - SNP 38 Con 27 Lab 24 LD 6
21/06/18 - 26/06/18 - SNP 38 Con 27 Lab 25 LD 7
Again , there is not much which stands out there - maybe a slight dip in Labour support at beginning of March but that coincided with the TIG defections and the latest anti-Semitic row and was reflected in a drop in Labour support across GB with the Tories taking a clear lead for a few weeks. Nothing Scotland specific there - and there has been no recent polling.
1. Ditching a car;
2. Going vegan;
3. Stopping flying ('Cutting one transatlantic flight per year'); and
4. Having one fewer child (By far the most controversial and possibly the most significant).
Even if you ignore #4 as harder to measure and more unpredictable (who knows what lifestyle choices they will make and what technology will be available to them) I think the others are a solid evidence-based roadmap for trying to have a serious impact on a personal level. I'm up to about 2.5 out of 4 (not vegan or even veggie, still fly sometimes, green electricity but gas heating). I hope to stop flying after a family trip this year, but it can be surprisingly difficult societally to turn down certain family or work trips.
https://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/article/the-four-lifestyle-choices-that-most-reduce-your-carbon-footprint
Although in all seriousness, one reason it is so diverse is because it is so parochial.
It's more amusing really that I've criticised somebody else for generalising...
This part of the SW (Dorset) is not especially anti-London imo because quite a few people have moved here from London and many others work or used to work in London.
Human extinction is the best solution to the earth's problems.
Good night one and all.
Ps, I speak as a lapsed vegan.
Pause.
Oh, bugger...
They've had three in a row now, stretching back almost 30 years.
https://twitter.com/sarah_richens/status/1118215909385101314?s=19
After Attenborough, I may think a little harder.I may go Green. I am no fan of Newton Dunn who is top on the LD list.
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1118994344449650688?s=20
In any case it is China, the USA and India who need to move to more renewables, what we do will make little difference either way
100% renewable energy, globally, is a big ask - but it is technically quite feasible.
There’s a very good (and lengthy) recent study here:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Manish_Ram2/publication/320934766_Global_Energy_System_based_on_100_Renewable_Energy_-_Power_Sector/links/5bbdae9e299bf1049b78a3b2/Global-Energy-System-based-on-100-Renewable-Energy-Power-Sector.pdf?origin=publication_detail