I struggle to find any redeeming qualities in Phillip Hammond.
No one complaining about unemployment. No one complaining about inflation. No one complaining about high interest rates. Chancellors in the past would have given their eye teeth for that.
He is the only adult in the room at Cabinet, which is why he is hated by the Brexiteers.
Most Tory MPs have already voted against revoke or EUref2 and indeed over half have already voted to Leave with No Deal, however in case you had not realised we have a hung Parliament, not a Tory majority of 150
Hate to break it to you but people really don't care what Con MPs voted for or what the Parliamentary arthirmatic happens to be.
All they see is the Tory government and a Prime Minister who never wanted to leave in the first place presiding over a process to stop Brexit.
Who carries the can then electorally? The Tories do!
Most Tory MPs have already voted against revoke or EUref2 and indeed over half have already voted to Leave with No Deal, however in case you had not realised we have a hung Parliament, not a Tory majority of 150
Yes and a Remainer pm and chancellor who did not listen to her ministers who actually campaigned to leave rather than hiding in the shadows like TM
Is anyone being "on the edge" of resigning really news nowadays?
Chris Grayling threatened it the other day, you would think with his record as Sec. of State he would be cautious as most bosses would jump at the chance to get rid of someone failing as much as he has done.
Commons votes by 123 to 488 to allow May to extend beyond May 21st if needed and thus to allow UK participation in the European Parliament elections if required
Most Tory MPs have already voted against revoke or EUref2 and indeed over half have already voted to Leave with No Deal, however in case you had not realised we have a hung Parliament, not a Tory majority of 150
Govt ammendment just fell by 180
Second biggest defeat of a government amendment ever, apparently. Second only to the MV. This government is setting records that will last a lot longer than it will.
If he doesn't have any skeletons and doesn't stick his foot in his mouth he looks like a very good candidate. He certainly seems to be reasonable and measured and singularly lacking in ideology for its own sake.
I am expecting a first debate surprise. But to be honest he is now 9 on BF for Dem nominee. Not sure I would go in at that price.
If he doesn't have any skeletons and doesn't stick his foot in his mouth he looks like a very good candidate. He certainly seems to be reasonable and measured and singularly lacking in ideology for its own sake.
I am expecting a first debate surprise. But to be honest he is now 9 on BF for Dem nominee. Not sure I would go in at that price.
Well, with Biden not standing, and Sanders managing to cut his head in the shower and looking even older than he is, the field is wide open.
My view:
Beto is this year's Rubio. Young and theoretically looks good, but an empty suit. Sell. Harris: With Biden and Sanders out (yeah, sue me), she's probably rightly the front runner. Hold. Warren: unpopular even in her own state. Sell. Booker. Who? Buttigieg. Could be... Klobuchar. Could be... Yang. Please god no. Castro. If he makes it to the debate, he'll get a good bounce. Impressive guy. A buy here. Hickenlooper. Fingers crossed... Gillibrand. Who? Insless. Who?
There seems to be an assumption that the people who voted Leave didn't know what they were voting for, and didn't really want to leave the EU... if we were to accept that argument, and the establishment managed somehow to wriggle out of actually leaving, what would they do to address the concerns of the majority of 2016 referendum voters?
It seems to me that a "business as usual" / "pretend it never happened" attitude prevails, the formation of Chuka/TIG being the most glaring example.
"...what would they do to address the concerns of the majority of 2016 referendum voters?"
Anyone?
You raise a very good point. I think this is worthy of a thread header. How do you think these concerns should be addressed?
Commons votes by 123 to 488 to allow May to extend beyond May 21st if needed and thus to allow UK participation in the European Parliament elections if required
Correction. TM to request (not allow). The EU will decide and it could be brutal the way this is going
Most Tory MPs have already voted against revoke or EUref2 and indeed over half have already voted to Leave with No Deal, however in case you had not realised we have a hung Parliament, not a Tory majority of 150
Hate to break it to you but people really don't care what Con MPs voted for or what the Parliamentary arthirmatic happens to be.
All they see is the Tory government and a Prime Minister who never wanted to leave in the first place presiding over a process to stop Brexit.
Who carries the can then electorally? The Tories do!
May will not be leading the Tories at the next election, most likely the members will elect a hard Brexiteer like Boris, Raab or Patel.
However at the moment my main focus is trying to stop No Deal and the threat of the breakup of the Union and deep damage to the economy, those are irreversible or very hard to reverse while we will always have a centre right or rightwing party of some form whatever happens with Brexit
There seems to be an assumption that the people who voted Leave didn't know what they were voting for, and didn't really want to leave the EU... if we were to accept that argument, and the establishment managed somehow to wriggle out of actually leaving, what would they do to address the concerns of the majority of 2016 referendum voters?
It seems to me that a "business as usual" / "pretend it never happened" attitude prevails, the formation of Chuka/TIG being the most glaring example.
"...what would they do to address the concerns of the majority of 2016 referendum voters?"
Anyone?
You raise a very good point. I think this is worthy of a thread header. How do you think these concerns should be addressed?
Why on Earth would anyone in the political class give a **** about why people voted to leave?
You see the sneering arrogance about Leavers all the time. They think they;re the scum of the Earth and if they could find a way to take the franchise away from them altogether they would...
Tonight brexit has died ands faith in democracy and politicians in general has bit the dust . 17.4 million voters betrayed by a remain parliament
Had the ERG voted for the Deal in the first place we would have left the EU last Friday and not be in perpetual EU purgatory
Had labour not opposed Tm deal just for the sake of opposing for political gain we would have left by now . Labour has also blocked brexit more so than dup or erg
If he doesn't have any skeletons and doesn't stick his foot in his mouth he looks like a very good candidate. He certainly seems to be reasonable and measured and singularly lacking in ideology for its own sake.
I am expecting a first debate surprise. But to be honest he is now 9 on BF for Dem nominee. Not sure I would go in at that price.
Well, with Biden not standing, and Sanders managing to cut his head in the shower and looking even older than he is, the field is wide open.
My view:
Beto is this year's Rubio. Young and theoretically looks good, but an empty suit. Sell. Harris: With Biden and Sanders out (yeah, sue me), she's probably rightly the front runner. Hold. Warren: unpopular even in her own state. Sell. Booker. Who? Buttigieg. Could be... Klobuchar. Could be... Yang. Please god no. Castro. If he makes it to the debate, he'll get a good bounce. Impressive guy. A buy here. Hickenlooper. Fingers crossed... Gillibrand. Who? Insless. Who?
Harris is not frontrunner, Sanders is, he already has almost 3 times the support of Harris, better organisation in Iowa and NH and most of Biden's votes will go to Sanders not Harris as polling shows Sanders is Biden voters second preference
There seems to be an assumption that the people who voted Leave didn't know what they were voting for, and didn't really want to leave the EU... if we were to accept that argument, and the establishment managed somehow to wriggle out of actually leaving, what would they do to address the concerns of the majority of 2016 referendum voters?
It seems to me that a "business as usual" / "pretend it never happened" attitude prevails, the formation of Chuka/TIG being the most glaring example.
"...what would they do to address the concerns of the majority of 2016 referendum voters?"
Anyone?
You raise a very good point. I think this is worthy of a thread header. How do you think these concerns should be addressed?
Just had a look back at the comments myself. Was Hunchman the one who kept claiming there was an office in some London street with a million (I exaggerate) registered businesses which was the centre of some great evil masterplan?
Yes.
And he kept forecasting "The Great Sovereign Debt Crisis" that his Elliot Waves predicted.
Most Tory MPs have already voted against revoke or EUref2 and indeed over half have already voted to Leave with No Deal, however in case you had not realised we have a hung Parliament, not a Tory majority of 150
Hate to break it to you but people really don't care what Con MPs voted for or what the Parliamentary arthirmatic happens to be.
All they see is the Tory government and a Prime Minister who never wanted to leave in the first place presiding over a process to stop Brexit.
Who carries the can then electorally? The Tories do!
May will not be leading the Tories at the next election, most likely the members will elect a hard Brexiteer like Boris, Raab or Patel.
However at the moment my main focus is trying to stop No Deal and the threat of the breakup of the Union and deep damage to the economy, those are irreversible or very hard to reverse while we will always have a centre right or rightwing party of some form whatever happens with Brexit
The big question is whether they can get to third reading tonight. The leavers are trying to call votes on everything for a reason. Hoyle so far doing a good job in keeping a lid on things.
If he doesn't have any skeletons and doesn't stick his foot in his mouth he looks like a very good candidate. He certainly seems to be reasonable and measured and singularly lacking in ideology for its own sake.
I am expecting a first debate surprise. But to be honest he is now 9 on BF for Dem nominee. Not sure I would go in at that price.
Well, with Biden not standing, and Sanders managing to cut his head in the shower and looking even older than he is, the field is wide open.
My view:
Beto is this year's Rubio. Young and theoretically looks good, but an empty suit. Sell. Harris: With Biden and Sanders out (yeah, sue me), she's probably rightly the front runner. Hold. Warren: unpopular even in her own state. Sell. Booker. Who? Buttigieg. Could be... Klobuchar. Could be... Yang. Please god no. Castro. If he makes it to the debate, he'll get a good bounce. Impressive guy. A buy here. Hickenlooper. Fingers crossed... Gillibrand. Who? Insless. Who?
Just had a look back at the comments myself. Was Hunchman the one who kept claiming there was an office in some London street with a million (I exaggerate) registered businesses which was the centre of some great evil masterplan?
Yes.
And he kept forecasting "The Great Sovereign Debt Crisis" that his Elliot Waves predicted.
Oh yes, which was always going to hit next October. Unless it was now October/November in which case it was now going to be NEXT October.
Commons votes by 123 to 488 to allow May to extend beyond May 21st if needed and thus to allow UK participation in the European Parliament elections if required
Correction. TM to request (not allow). The EU will decide and it could be brutal the way this is going
The main EU criteria for indefinite extension is the UK contests the EU Parliament elections, tonight's vote enables that and extension beyond May 22nd, that is very, very significant.
The other thing the EU asked for is for some indication of what the UK Parliament will back, the indicative votes help with that and May has already said she will effectively just go to the EU with what gets most votes in Parliament, majority or not and the EU has ultimately said it is negotiating with May, Parliament is just needed for the ratification. EU purgatory here we come
If he doesn't have any skeletons and doesn't stick his foot in his mouth he looks like a very good candidate. He certainly seems to be reasonable and measured and singularly lacking in ideology for its own sake.
I am expecting a first debate surprise. But to be honest he is now 9 on BF for Dem nominee. Not sure I would go in at that price.
Well, with Biden not standing, and Sanders managing to cut his head in the shower and looking even older than he is, the field is wide open.
My view:
Beto is this year's Rubio. Young and theoretically looks good, but an empty suit. Sell. Harris: With Biden and Sanders out (yeah, sue me), she's probably rightly the front runner. Hold. Warren: unpopular even in her own state. Sell. Booker. Who? Buttigieg. Could be... Klobuchar. Could be... Yang. Please god no. Castro. If he makes it to the debate, he'll get a good bounce. Impressive guy. A buy here. Hickenlooper. Fingers crossed... Gillibrand. Who? Insless. Who?
Harris is not frontrunner, Sanders is, he already has almost 3 times the support of Harris, better organisation in Iowa and NH and most of Biden's votes will go to Sanders not Harris as polling shows Sanders is Biden voters second preference
The big question is whether they can get to third reading tonight. The leavers are trying to call votes on everything for a reason. Hoyle so far doing a good job in keeping a lid on things.
In the 220-400 vote, Steve Baker and Bernard Jenkin were in the Noe lobby !
Labour Ayes Flint, Mann, Snell DUP Aye Pengelly Tory Ayes : Payroll + Some ERG (Chope)
That would explain the suddenly large margin. The vote was opposed by the opposition mis-trusting the government and the ERG not wanting to leave the government more ways to extend. The 220 is the government loyalist vote.
Would it be unpardonably frivolous of me to say that Corbyn’s new glasses really suit him? And that he is really quite fine looking for a 70 year old (tho’ his teeth could do with straightening)?
Tonight brexit has died ands faith in democracy and politicians in general has bit the dust . 17.4 million voters betrayed by a remain parliament
Had the ERG voted for the Deal in the first place we would have left the EU last Friday and not be in perpetual EU purgatory
The Deal is perpetual EU purgatory.
"If you had already eaten this shit sandwich I wouldn't be forcing you to eat this shit sandwich"
To be honest I would prefer EU purgatory for the rest of my lifetime than No Deal, I will accept Brexit with a Deal of any form but am very reluctant to accept No Deal
Have to say that Jezza could not have done a better job of sh@f$ing the Conservatives than May. The MPs do not seem to realise they are totally frit...no more fat pay cheques, pensions, expenses etc. Once it slowly dawns they will start their CV updates asap and they will be looking for new careers before they leave the HoC...maybe also some northern Labour MPs as well.
The big question is whether they can get to third reading tonight. The leavers are trying to call votes on everything for a reason. Hoyle so far doing a good job in keeping a lid on things.
Does parliament have a cut off time ?
Normally 7.30 pm but that has clearly been extended already for this debate. I expect it must be possible to suspend SOs to sit for longer, but i am not sure.
There is some business due after this, which will surely fall
Would it be unpardonably frivolous of me to say that Corbyn’s new glasses really suit him? And that he is really quite fine looking for a 70 year old (tho’ his teeth could do with straightening)?
He's taken Cameron's mother's advise on smartening up.
He's still a dogmatic socialist, but he looks Prime Ministerial now.
Tonight brexit has died ands faith in democracy and politicians in general has bit the dust . 17.4 million voters betrayed by a remain parliament
Had the ERG voted for the Deal in the first place we would have left the EU last Friday and not be in perpetual EU purgatory
Had labour not opposed Tm deal just for the sake of opposing for political gain we would have left by now . Labour has also blocked brexit more so than dup or erg
10 to 15 Labour MPs were ready to back May's Deal last Friday until they saw it would lose thanks to the ERG and chickened out, there is no point rebelling if you lose
Commons votes by 123 to 488 to allow May to extend beyond May 21st if needed and thus to allow UK participation in the European Parliament elections if required
Correction. TM to request (not allow). The EU will decide and it could be brutal the way this is going
The main EU criteria for indefinite extension is the UK contests the EU Parliament elections, tonight's vote enables that and extension beyond May 22nd, that is very, very significant.
The other thing the EU asked for is for some indication of what the UK Parliament will back, the indicative votes help with that and May has already said she will effectively just go to the EU with what gets most votes in Parliament, majority or not and the EU has ultimately said it is negotiating with May, Parliament is just needed for the ratification. EU purgatory here we come
The EU require the WDA passed by a majority by monday or it is a referendum, GE or revoke
Continuing to argue over brexit is not acceptable to the EU
Exactly and I did say at the time they were premature
Though they were right. May should have gone then.
They were not right and their stupid action put TM in charge until December
Brexiteers are just not good at thinking
They were right which too many stupid Tory MPs who didn't realise it yet now realise.
Tory MPs can be too clever by half sometimes! I mean the 2001 leadership election for instance, they put Ken Clarke and IDS in the run off. I voted for Ken Clarke despite his European views and the problems it may cause within PCP as I did not think IDS was a serious politician then or now or anytime between.
If he doesn't have any skeletons and doesn't stick his foot in his mouth he looks like a very good candidate. He certainly seems to be reasonable and measured and singularly lacking in ideology for its own sake.
I am expecting a first debate surprise. But to be honest he is now 9 on BF for Dem nominee. Not sure I would go in at that price.
Well, with Biden not standing, and Sanders managing to cut his head in the shower and looking even older than he is, the field is wide open.
My view:
Beto is this year's Rubio. Young and theoretically looks good, but an empty suit. Sell. Harris: With Biden and Sanders out (yeah, sue me), she's probably rightly the front runner. Hold. Warren: unpopular even in her own state. Sell. Booker. Who? Buttigieg. Could be... Klobuchar. Could be... Yang. Please god no. Castro. If he makes it to the debate, he'll get a good bounce. Impressive guy. A buy here. Hickenlooper. Fingers crossed... Gillibrand. Who? Insless. Who?
Harris is not frontrunner, Sanders is, he already has almost 3 times the support of Harris, better organisation in Iowa and NH and most of Biden's votes will go to Sanders not Harris as polling shows Sanders is Biden voters second preference
Look at this image and tell me that Sanders is a front runner:
The big question is whether they can get to third reading tonight. The leavers are trying to call votes on everything for a reason. Hoyle so far doing a good job in keeping a lid on things.
Commons votes by 123 to 488 to allow May to extend beyond May 21st if needed and thus to allow UK participation in the European Parliament elections if required
Correction. TM to request (not allow). The EU will decide and it could be brutal the way this is going
The main EU criteria for indefinite extension is the UK contests the EU Parliament elections, tonight's vote enables that and extension beyond May 22nd, that is very, very significant.
The other thing the EU asked for is for some indication of what the UK Parliament will back, the indicative votes help with that and May has already said she will effectively just go to the EU with what gets most votes in Parliament, majority or not and the EU has ultimately said it is negotiating with May, Parliament is just needed for the ratification. EU purgatory here we come
The EU require the WDA passed by a majority by monday or it is a referendum, GE or revoke
Continuing to argue over brexit is not acceptable to the EU
That is not necessarily true, the only conclusion of the EU27 at the European Council was for further extension the UK must contest the European Parliament elections and Parliament give some indication of what it would back, ultimately they decide, whatever EU bureaucrats may say afterwards
Tonight brexit has died ands faith in democracy and politicians in general has bit the dust . 17.4 million voters betrayed by a remain parliament
Had the ERG voted for the Deal in the first place we would have left the EU last Friday and not be in perpetual EU purgatory
Had labour not opposed Tm deal just for the sake of opposing for political gain we would have left by now . Labour has also blocked brexit more so than dup or erg
10 to 15 Labour MPs were ready to back May's Deal last Friday until they saw it would lose thanks to the ERG and chickened out, there is no point rebelling if you lose
Had corbyn acted in the national interest we would have left by now. But TM deal is not great and she could have got a better deal if she had listened to her cabinet
If he doesn't have any skeletons and doesn't stick his foot in his mouth he looks like a very good candidate. He certainly seems to be reasonable and measured and singularly lacking in ideology for its own sake.
I am expecting a first debate surprise. But to be honest he is now 9 on BF for Dem nominee. Not sure I would go in at that price.
Well, with Biden not standing, and Sanders managing to cut his head in the shower and looking even older than he is, the field is wide open.
My view:
Beto is this year's Rubio. Young and theoretically looks good, but an empty suit. Sell. Harris: With Biden and Sanders out (yeah, sue me), she's probably rightly the front runner. Hold. Warren: unpopular even in her own state. Sell. Booker. Who? Buttigieg. Could be... Klobuchar. Could be... Yang. Please god no. Castro. If he makes it to the debate, he'll get a good bounce. Impressive guy. A buy here. Hickenlooper. Fingers crossed... Gillibrand. Who? Insless. Who?
Harris is not frontrunner, Sanders is, he already has almost 3 times the support of Harris, better organisation in Iowa and NH and most of Biden's votes will go to Sanders not Harris as polling shows Sanders is Biden voters second preference
Look at this image and tell me that Sanders is a front runner:
If he doesn't have any skeletons and doesn't stick his foot in his mouth he looks like a very good candidate. He certainly seems to be reasonable and measured and singularly lacking in ideology for its own sake.
I am expecting a first debate surprise. But to be honest he is now 9 on BF for Dem nominee. Not sure I would go in at that price.
Well, with Biden not standing, and Sanders managing to cut his head in the shower and looking even older than he is, the field is wide open.
My view:
Beto is this year's Rubio. Young and theoretically looks good, but an empty suit. Sell. Harris: With Biden and Sanders out (yeah, sue me), she's probably rightly the front runner. Hold. Warren: unpopular even in her own state. Sell. Booker. Who? Buttigieg. Could be... Klobuchar. Could be... Yang. Please god no. Castro. If he makes it to the debate, he'll get a good bounce. Impressive guy. A buy here. Hickenlooper. Fingers crossed... Gillibrand. Who? Insless. Who?
Harris is not frontrunner, Sanders is, he already has almost 3 times the support of Harris, better organisation in Iowa and NH and most of Biden's votes will go to Sanders not Harris as polling shows Sanders is Biden voters second preference
Look at this image and tell me that Sanders is a front runner:
Easily, he is what the Democratic base wants.
Plenty of even Presidents have had bandages from time to time
Exactly and I did say at the time they were premature
Though they were right. May should have gone then.
They were not right and their stupid action put TM in charge until December
Brexiteers are just not good at thinking
They were right which too many stupid Tory MPs who didn't realise it yet now realise.
Tory MPs can be too clever by half sometimes! I mean the 2001 leadership election for instance, they put Ken Clarke and IDS in the run off. I voted for Ken Clarke despite his European views and the problems it may cause within PCP as I did not think IDS was a serious politician then or now or anytime between.
That's where I disagree totally with the idea of "war gaming" one's vote. You almost always end up outsmarting yourself. If you want something, vote for it. If you don't want it, vote against it.
Would it be unpardonably frivolous of me to say that Corbyn’s new glasses really suit him? And that he is really quite fine looking for a 70 year old (tho’ his teeth could do with straightening)?
He's taken Cameron's mother's advise on smartening up.
He's still a dogmatic socialist, but he looks Prime Ministerial now.
Can't believe they didn't get a money shot of him arriving at and going into Downing St to tell Theresa May what's what though.
That was very poor... Can you imagine Blair and Ali Campbell not milking a moment like that for all its worth?
Jezza does need to up his game on the media side. In 2017 the amateurishness of it all had a certain charm especially against the Maybot but I don't think that will wash again for Labour in another election.
Would it be unpardonably frivolous of me to say that Corbyn’s new glasses really suit him? And that he is really quite fine looking for a 70 year old (tho’ his teeth could do with straightening)?
He looks the part. Just imagine this. He gets in and does well. Tory nightmare.
It is increasingly looking on tonight's votes even if we end up with final votes on No Deal or Revoke, No Deal at most will get about 200 if slightly less, Revoke would get around 400 and win
Exactly and I did say at the time they were premature
Though they were right. May should have gone then.
They were not right and their stupid action put TM in charge until December
Brexiteers are just not good at thinking
They were right which too many stupid Tory MPs who didn't realise it yet now realise.
Tory MPs can be too clever by half sometimes! I mean the 2001 leadership election for instance, they put Ken Clarke and IDS in the run off. I voted for Ken Clarke despite his European views and the problems it may cause within PCP as I did not think IDS was a serious politician then or now or anytime between.
Indeed. I first joined the Party after the 2001 election as I was that disgusted by IDS beating Ckarke and wanted a vote next time. Voted Cameron in 2005. Membership has lapsed now so won't be voting this year (it's probably already too late to rejoin and get a vote I guess).
Would it be unpardonably frivolous of me to say that Corbyn’s new glasses really suit him? And that he is really quite fine looking for a 70 year old (tho’ his teeth could do with straightening)?
He looks the part. Just imagine this. He gets in and does well. Tory nightmare.
Why Tory nightmare? It would be a massive relief. Unfortunately there's zero hope that he'd do well.
In the 220-400 vote, Steve Baker and Bernard Jenkin were in the Noe lobby !
Labour Ayes Flint, Mann, Snell DUP Aye Pengelly Tory Ayes : Payroll + Some ERG (Chope)
Ugh, Gareth Snell is just the worst. Atleast Caroline Flint and John Mann were man/woman enough to make a choice and vote for May's deal; I think Snell might be the only MP who has basically voted for nothing (he was against May's deal, against No Deal, against a referendum, against the Common Market, mostly against extensions).
It is increasingly looking on tonight's votes even if we end up with final votes on No Deal or Revoke, No Deal at most will get about 200 if slightly less, Revoke would get around 400 and win
No Deal v Extension absolutely.
No Deal v Revoke would be a totally different game.
Commons votes by 123 to 488 to allow May to extend beyond May 21st if needed and thus to allow UK participation in the European Parliament elections if required
Correction. TM to request (not allow). The EU will decide and it could be brutal the way this is going
The main EU criteria for indefinite extension is the UK contests the EU Parliament elections, tonight's vote enables that and extension beyond May 22nd, that is very, very significant.
The other thing the EU asked for is for some indication of what the UK Parliament will back, the indicative votes help with that and May has already said she will effectively just go to the EU with what gets most votes in Parliament, majority or not and the EU has ultimately said it is negotiating with May, Parliament is just needed for the ratification. EU purgatory here we come
The EU require the WDA passed by a majority by monday or it is a referendum, GE or revoke
Continuing to argue over brexit is not acceptable to the EU
That is not necessarily true, the only conclusion of the EU27 at the European Council was for further extension the UK must contest the European Parliament elections and Parliament give some indication of what it would back, ultimately they decide, whatever EU bureaucrats may say afterwards
most of Biden's votes will go to Sanders not Harris as polling shows Sanders is Biden voters second preference
Did you piss off an old gypsy psephologist lady because you seem to be cursed with knowing what all the polling numbers are, but not knowing what any of them mean
Would it be unpardonably frivolous of me to say that Corbyn’s new glasses really suit him? And that he is really quite fine looking for a 70 year old (tho’ his teeth could do with straightening)?
He looks the part. Just imagine this. He gets in and does well. Tory nightmare.
If he "gets in and does well", it will because of 200 of his MPs staying his hand......
Not all the tabled amendments were taken, as per the announcement at the beginning of the committee session. I expect Rentoul is working from the BBC's full list.
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All they see is the Tory government and a Prime Minister who never wanted to leave in the first place presiding over a process to stop Brexit.
Who carries the can then electorally? The Tories do!
Happy now?
My view:
Beto is this year's Rubio. Young and theoretically looks good, but an empty suit. Sell.
Harris: With Biden and Sanders out (yeah, sue me), she's probably rightly the front runner. Hold.
Warren: unpopular even in her own state. Sell.
Booker. Who?
Buttigieg. Could be...
Klobuchar. Could be...
Yang. Please god no.
Castro. If he makes it to the debate, he'll get a good bounce. Impressive guy. A buy here.
Hickenlooper. Fingers crossed...
Gillibrand. Who?
Insless. Who?
Brexiteers are just not good at thinking
However at the moment my main focus is trying to stop No Deal and the threat of the breakup of the Union and deep damage to the economy, those are irreversible or very hard to reverse while we will always have a centre right or rightwing party of some form whatever happens with Brexit
You see the sneering arrogance about Leavers all the time. They think they;re the scum of the Earth and if they could find a way to take the franchise away from them altogether they would...
"If you had already eaten this shit sandwich I wouldn't be forcing you to eat this shit sandwich"
And he kept forecasting "The Great Sovereign Debt Crisis" that his Elliot Waves predicted.
Labour Ayes Flint, Mann, Snell
DUP Aye Pengelly
Tory Ayes : Payroll + Some ERG (Chope)
The other thing the EU asked for is for some indication of what the UK Parliament will back, the indicative votes help with that and May has already said she will effectively just go to the EU with what gets most votes in Parliament, majority or not and the EU has ultimately said it is negotiating with May, Parliament is just needed for the ratification. EU purgatory here we come
Great work guys.
What a set of tw*ts.
"I only raped that woman your honour because she didn't consent to have sex with me"
We made that decision three years ago.
https://www.facebook.com/1586671888254288/posts/2300387296882740?sfns=mo
Grayling is, I'm sure, on the verge of resignation.
There is some business due after this, which will surely fall
He's still a dogmatic socialist, but he looks Prime Ministerial now.
Continuing to argue over brexit is not acceptable to the EU
Plenty of even Presidents have had bandages from time to time
That was very poor... Can you imagine Blair and Ali Campbell not milking a moment like that for all its worth?
Jezza does need to up his game on the media side. In 2017 the amateurishness of it all had a certain charm especially against the Maybot but I don't think that will wash again for Labour in another election.
Third reading!
Objections from ERG to third reading
No Deal v Revoke would be a totally different game.