The government has bought a $15.9m (£12m) seven bedroom luxury New York apartment for a senior British civil servant charged with signing fresh trade deals in a post-Brexit world, the Guardian can reveal.
The foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt oversaw the purchase of a 5,893 sq ft (574 sq metre) apartment as the official residence for Antony Phillipson, the UK trade commissioner for North America and consul general in New York.
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
Which is why it is a wrecking amendment from MPs that are trying to duck the real choices the country faces.
A rare point of agreement. Bercow needs to select only the proposals that have a realistic proposition of success. Anything that proposes changes to the WA needs to be ignored.
Yes that's what I thought but then again... with a sufficient extension anything's possible (ooh-er!).
I think you're right though - it would be a reasonable criteria for Bercow to use.
Wonder if we'll see a Boris/Nicky "dream ticket" when Tess gets the boot?
How can I live in a world where apparently sane people believe the Malthouse Compromise is an actual real thing?
Because MPs have been given a task that is beyond their abilities and they are engaging in displacement activity until time runs out or they produce an impossible solution, at which point they will blame the EU.
Begs the question what's Malthouse Compromise Plan B?
One in a series of airport novels. Titles in the series include:
Malthouse Compromise Chequers Plan Letwin Amendment Norway Option
Harry Potter and the ...goes before all of them. In which our intrepid band of MPs come up with ever more incredible wheezes to ensure they are defeated...
Off-topic:
Many years ago, Mrs J and I realised that you could replace the last word in every title of the Harry Potter series with the word 'cum' and get a very different set of books: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's ... Harry Potter and the Chamber of ... Harry Potter and the Prisoner of ... Harry Potter and the Goblet of ... Harry Potter and the Order of the ... Harry Potter and the Half-Blood ... Harry Potter and the Deathly ...
Although some work better with the word in the middle: for instance, 'Harry Potter and the Cum of the Phoenix' is a rather mind-boggling title ...
Works for Indiana Jones of course
Raiders of the lost ... Temple of ... The last ...
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
Which is why it is a wrecking amendment from MPs that are trying to duck the real choices the country faces.
A rare point of agreement. Bercow needs to select only the proposals that have a realistic proposition of success. Anything that proposes changes to the WA needs to be ignored.
Yes that's what I thought but then again... with a sufficient extension anythings possible (ooh-er!).
I think you're right though - it would be a reasonable criteria for Bercow to use.
So that rules out the Customs Union amendment then.
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
Which is why it is a wrecking amendment from MPs that are trying to duck the real choices the country faces.
A rare point of agreement. Bercow needs to select only the proposals that have a realistic proposition of success. Anything that proposes changes to the WA needs to be ignored.
Yes that's what I thought but then again... with a sufficient extension anythings possible (ooh-er!).
I think you're right though - it would be a reasonable criteria for Bercow to use.
So that rules out the Customs Union amendment then.
No, because that says we pass the existing WA and bind the government to seek a customs union as the long term trade deal. I disagree with it, but it is definitely possible as it requires changes to the political statement, not the WA.
Or does Bercow rule it out as it's already been rejected?
Or does it not need to be on the list tomorrow on the basis that the Govt will bring it back separately if / when it so desires?
Everything tomorrow has been rejected already by the Commons, except Malthouse which was approved once already and straight revoke which has never been proposed yet. The indicative votes are giving a chance for everyone to address all issues at once, so ruling out any based on prior votes wouldn't make sense.
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
We head to the No Deal exit. At which point the shit hits the fan. The shit needs to fly before people get serious. Will it mean May's Deal? Perhaps. EU elections and long extension? Perhaps. Revoke Article 50? That would take courage, but it would be the only more or less definitive outcome. The other two are storing up problems and decisions for later.
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
Which is why it is a wrecking amendment from MPs that are trying to duck the real choices the country faces.
A rare point of agreement. Bercow needs to select only the proposals that have a realistic proposition of success. Anything that proposes changes to the WA needs to be ignored.
Yes that's what I thought but then again... with a sufficient extension anythings possible (ooh-er!).
I think you're right though - it would be a reasonable criteria for Bercow to use.
So that rules out the Customs Union amendment then.
No, because that says we pass the existing WA and bind the government to seek a customs union as the long term trade deal. I disagree with it, but it is definitely possible as it requires changes to the political statement, not the WA.
It says "any WA and PD negotiated with the EU must include, as a minimum, a commitment to negotiate a permanent and comprehensive UK-wide customs union with the EU".
The existing WA doesn't have that commitment so it would need to be renegotiated.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. It virtually guarantees no deal. I have comprehensively criticised Leavers for twisting on 18, and must criticise these misbegotten Remainers on the same grounds. This is juvenile behaviour. Just when you think MPs couldn't get lower in my estimation, they dig a deeper hole. Silly, petty, children.
It seems increasingly clear that the ERG et al. are expecting May to come along to the '22 at 5pm tomorrow and pre-announce her resignation. Yet every previously trailed dramatic announcement from May (tbf the 2017 GE excepted) has resulted in yet another "nothing has changed" homily. I can't see such going down too well tomorrow?
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
Which is why it is a wrecking amendment from MPs that are trying to duck the real choices the country faces.
A rare point of agreement. Bercow needs to select only the proposals that have a realistic proposition of success. Anything that proposes changes to the WA needs to be ignored.
Yes that's what I thought but then again... with a sufficient extension anythings possible (ooh-er!).
I think you're right though - it would be a reasonable criteria for Bercow to use.
So that rules out the Customs Union amendment then.
No, because that says we pass the existing WA and bind the government to seek a customs union as the long term trade deal. I disagree with it, but it is definitely possible as it requires changes to the political statement, not the WA.
It says "any WA and PD negotiated with the EU must include, as a minimum, a commitment to negotiate a permanent and comprehensive UK-wide customs union with the EU".
The existing WA doesn't have that commitment so it would need to be renegotiated.
Jezza has done the groundwork Eu will bite our hand off
Begs the question what's Malthouse Compromise Plan B?
One in a series of airport novels. Titles in the series include:
Malthouse Compromise Chequers Plan Letwin Amendment Norway Option
Harry Potter and the ...goes before all of them. In which our intrepid band of MPs come up with ever more incredible wheezes to ensure they are defeated...
Off-topic:
Many years ago, Mrs J and I realised that you could replace the last word in every title of the Harry Potter series with the word 'cum' and get a very different set of books: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's ... Harry Potter and the Chamber of ... Harry Potter and the Prisoner of ... Harry Potter and the Goblet of ... Harry Potter and the Order of the ... Harry Potter and the Half-Blood ... Harry Potter and the Deathly ...
Although some work better with the word in the middle: for instance, 'Harry Potter and the Cum of the Phoenix' is a rather mind-boggling title ...
Works for Indiana Jones of course
Raiders of the lost ... Temple of ... The last ...
Which gives a whole new perspective to the 'He chose unwisely' scene ...
It seems increasingly clear that the ERG et al. are expecting May to come along to the '22 at 5pm tomorrow and pre-announce her resignation. Yet every previously trailed dramatic announcement from May (tbf the 2017 GE excepted) has resulted in yet another "nothing has changed" homily. I can't see such going down too well tomorrow?
In fairness whenever it is trailed that the ERG or DUP might be wavering they never deliver either.
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
Which is why it is a wrecking amendment from MPs that are trying to duck the real choices the country faces.
A rare point of agreement. Bercow needs to select only the proposals that have a realistic proposition of success. Anything that proposes changes to the WA needs to be ignored.
Yes that's what I thought but then again... with a sufficient extension anythings possible (ooh-er!).
I think you're right though - it would be a reasonable criteria for Bercow to use.
So that rules out the Customs Union amendment then.
No, because that says we pass the existing WA and bind the government to seek a customs union as the long term trade deal. I disagree with it, but it is definitely possible as it requires changes to the political statement, not the WA.
It says "any WA and PD negotiated with the EU must include, as a minimum, a commitment to negotiate a permanent and comprehensive UK-wide customs union with the EU".
The existing WA doesn't have that commitment so it would need to be renegotiated.
You could include it as an additional thing in another declaration. I think they've done that before with a different thing but I forget what.
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
We head to the No Deal exit. At which point the shit hits the fan. The shit needs to fly before people get serious. Will it mean May's Deal? Perhaps. EU elections and long extension? Perhaps. Revoke Article 50? That would take courage, but it would be the only more or less definitive outcome. The other two are storing up problems and decisions for later.
I am increasingly confident that if it comes down to a no deal v revoke choice, up against the wall, Parliament will revoke. May knows this too, hence the statement within her speech yesterday.
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
Which is why it is a wrecking amendment from MPs that are trying to duck the real choices the country faces.
Which makes me wonder why Nicky Morgan signed it.
Why did she make Amanda Spielman, a disastrous failure at OFQUAL, with no experience of working in schools and no understanding of something so basic as safeguarding procedures, HMCI?
What should have been a process to force MPs to address the difficult choices facing the country is turning into a farcical dilemma for Bercow as every half baked crackpot way forward lands on his desk being put forward by this or that MP in a pitiful attempt to duck out of making said choices.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. It virtually guarantees no deal. I have comprehensively criticised Leavers for twisting on 18, and must criticise these misbegotten Remainers on the same grounds. This is juvenile behaviour. Just when you think MPs couldn't get lower in my estimation, they dig a deeper hole. Silly, petty, children.
Surely the amendment has it backwards anyway. At the last moment there should be a vote to revoke, if that fails we exit with no deal. Not the other way around.
Boris live on Sky just now engineering his move to back TM deal
It is comical watching ERG going into full throttle reverse and funnier still if it is too late
Yes, I think they may have foolishly missed the bus, and that peak TM deal was at the 2nd attempt. However the real problem of course is not the ERG, but that Labour won't vote for the the deal, or at leadt abstain, given that there is nothing in TMs deal they actually don't agree with. The DUP have been giving the strong impression that actually they want to oppose any deal at all of the TM type and 'Remain', as long as they don't have to take any blame for it. In which case TMs deal was always doomed.
What should have been a process to force MPs to address the difficult choices facing the country is turning into a farcical dilemma for Bercow as every half baked crackpot way forward lands on his desk being put forward by this or that MP in a pitiful attempt to duck out of making said choices.
The HOC has to agree a brexit that commands majority support in the HOC but that is also able to meet the 12th April deadline
TM deal, (or similar), and no deal are the only relative straight forward ones
The rest including revoke, anthing with a referendum, or a GE requires the HOC to mandate the UK EU elections, starting on the 12th April as confirmed by Mark Stone, Sky's Europe editor, today
So in 17 days we have to have reach a majority agreement for a course of action, some complicated by the EU elections, and pass relevant legislation to enact the decision
No deal or TM deal still remain the most likely by the 12th April
Boris hinting he'll vote for the WA if May agrees to go.
The problem has always been that when she agrees to that it becomes public about 5 seconds later. While it is very obvious that her time as PM is effectively over in any case, I can understand procedurally things being a bit tricky if it is known that she has already stated she will leave on 1 May or whatever.
Begs the question what's Malthouse Compromise Plan B?
One in a series of airport novels. Titles in the series include:
Malthouse Compromise Chequers Plan Letwin Amendment Norway Option
Those were the names of some of the Global Thermonuclear War scenarios that the WOPR computer runs through at the end of the film Wargames
"Strange game. The only winning move is not to play. Would you like a nice game of chess?"
(Incidentally I found out the other day that the professor is an able-bodied expy of Hawking, hence the name - Falken/falcon)
They actually approached Hawking to be in the film but he turned the role down. Amusing considering later in life how happy he was to be in television shows etc that broadened dramatically his popular appeal.
The HOC has to agree a brexit that commands majority support in the HOC but that is also able to meet the 12th April deadline
TM deal, (or similar), and no deal are the only relative straight forward ones
The rest including revoke, anthing with a referendum, or a GE requires the HOC to mandate the UK EU elections, starting on the 12th April as confirmed by Mark Stone, Sky's Europe editor, today
So in 17 days we have to have reach a majority agreement for a course of action, some complicated by the EU elections, and pass relevant legislation to enact the decision
No deal or TM deal still remain the most likely by the 12th April
#CCU replaces dead as a Do Do Deal tomorrow night IMO
I wonder how the EU would react if Malthouse got a majority in the Commons again and nothing else did again.
We head to the No Deal exit. At which point the shit hits the fan. The shit needs to fly before people get serious. Will it mean May's Deal? Perhaps. EU elections and long extension? Perhaps. Revoke Article 50? That would take courage, but it would be the only more or less definitive outcome. The other two are storing up problems and decisions for later.
I am increasingly confident that if it comes down to a no deal v revoke choice, up against the wall, Parliament will revoke. May knows this too, hence the statement within her speech yesterday.
I know I'm a bitter Remoaner but revocation is genuinely the best of a set of bad choices. The alternatives are all extremely problematic. Which is not to say countermanding a democratically determined decision is good. But in business or any other way of life if you can't make a decision stack up, you put it on hold. You would be a fool to plough on regardless, simply because of the way you made the decision.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. It virtually guarantees no deal. I have comprehensively criticised Leavers for twisting on 18, and must criticise these misbegotten Remainers on the same grounds. This is juvenile behaviour. Just when you think MPs couldn't get lower in my estimation, they dig a deeper hole. Silly, petty, children.
Surely the amendment has it backwards anyway. At the last moment there should be a vote to revoke, if that fails we exit with no deal. Not the other way around.
You're applying common sense and rational analysis to a circumstance signally lacking in both...
The HOC has to agree a brexit that commands majority support in the HOC but that is also able to meet the 12th April deadline
TM deal, (or similar), and no deal are the only relative straight forward ones
The rest including revoke, anthing with a referendum, or a GE requires the HOC to mandate the UK EU elections, starting on the 12th April as confirmed by Mark Stone, Sky's Europe editor, today
So in 17 days we have to have reach a majority agreement for a course of action, some complicated by the EU elections, and pass relevant legislation to enact the decision
No deal or TM deal still remain the most likely by the 12th April
#CCU replaces dead as a Do Do Deal tomorrow night IMO
I feel like the poor dodo gets overmentioned as far as extinct, flightless birds go. Perhaps it could be dead as a great auk instead?
The other two are storing up problems and decisions for later.
There are always problems and decisions for later.
Indeed. But here we have politicians who are not solving anything now because it is genuinely a bad set of choices saying, never mind, we will deal with it ALL later. Revocation at least delivers a concrete outcome now.
Begs the question what's Malthouse Compromise Plan B?
One in a series of airport novels. Titles in the series include:
Malthouse Compromise Chequers Plan Letwin Amendment Norway Option
Those were the names of some of the Global Thermonuclear War scenarios that the WOPR computer runs through at the end of the film Wargames
"Strange game. The only winning move is not to play. Would you like a nice game of chess?"
(Incidentally I found out the other day that the professor is an able-bodied expy of Hawking, hence the name - Falken/falcon)
They actually approached Hawking to be in the film but he turned the role down. Amusing considering later in life how happy he was to be in television shows etc that broadened dramatically his popular appeal.
The entire US media seems to think he will. Is that wishful thinking because he has a decent chance of beating Trump if he does run or are they attempting to give an unvarnished assessment of what they see as a racing cert.
The power of government to duck the hard choices facing the country has simply moved to MPs who are doing their best to duck the same hard choices. Bercow could force MPs back to reality but does he have the political capital to be able to do so, when so many are in denial?
The HOC has to agree a brexit that commands majority support in the HOC but that is also able to meet the 12th April deadline
TM deal, (or similar), and no deal are the only relative straight forward ones
The rest including revoke, anthing with a referendum, or a GE requires the HOC to mandate the UK EU elections, starting on the 12th April as confirmed by Mark Stone, Sky's Europe editor, today
So in 17 days we have to have reach a majority agreement for a course of action, some complicated by the EU elections, and pass relevant legislation to enact the decision
No deal or TM deal still remain the most likely by the 12th April
#CCU replaces dead as a Do Do Deal tomorrow night IMO
I feel like the poor dodo gets overmentioned as far as extinct, flightless birds go. Perhaps it could be dead as a great auk instead?
Begs the question what's Malthouse Compromise Plan B?
One in a series of airport novels. Titles in the series include:
Malthouse Compromise Chequers Plan Letwin Amendment Norway Option
Harry Potter and the ...goes before all of them. In which our intrepid band of MPs come up with ever more incredible wheezes to ensure they are defeated...
Off-topic:
Many years ago, Mrs J and I realised that you could replace the last word in every title of the Harry Potter series with the word 'cum' and get a very different set of books: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's ... Harry Potter and the Chamber of ... Harry Potter and the Prisoner of ... Harry Potter and the Goblet of ... Harry Potter and the Order of the ... Harry Potter and the Half-Blood ... Harry Potter and the Deathly ...
Although some work better with the word in the middle: for instance, 'Harry Potter and the Cum of the Phoenix' is a rather mind-boggling title ...
The power of government to duck the hard choices facing the country has simply moved to MPs who are doing their best to duck the same hard choices. Bercow could force MPs back to reality but does he have the political capital to be able to do so, when so many are in denial?
Revocation is looking increasingly sensible.
The country already made the hard choice. So has the government to a degree... parliament is making the easy choice of ignoring it and hoping it will go away, like a smoker deciding not to give up after the doctor told him to... it will catch up with them in the end
The power of government to duck the hard choices facing the country has simply moved to MPs who are doing their best to duck the same hard choices.
Hang on, at least let them have the votes first, at least there's a plan to move from straight votes to whatever ranking preference plan they're coming up with to try and find some sort of consensus.
The power of government to duck the hard choices facing the country has simply moved to MPs who are doing their best to duck the same hard choices. Bercow could force MPs back to reality but does he have the political capital to be able to do so, when so many are in denial?
Stupid, stupid, stupid. It virtually guarantees no deal. I have comprehensively criticised Leavers for twisting on 18, and must criticise these misbegotten Remainers on the same grounds. This is juvenile behaviour. Just when you think MPs couldn't get lower in my estimation, they dig a deeper hole. Silly, petty, children.
Surely the amendment has it backwards anyway. At the last moment there should be a vote to revoke, if that fails we exit with no deal. Not the other way around.
You can tell if an amendment might pass by the signatories. Letwin is probably around the median vote and hasn't put his name to the amendment.
Boris hinting he'll vote for the WA if May agrees to go.
Which further proves that Boris is an unprincipled chancer willing to sacrifice the national interest for his own personal advancement. Either the deal is in the national interest, in which case he should support it. Or it is not, in which case he should oppose it. The identity of the PM has no bearing on the acceptability of the deal.
The HOC has to agree a brexit that commands majority support in the HOC but that is also able to meet the 12th April deadline
TM deal, (or similar), and no deal are the only relative straight forward ones
The rest including revoke, anthing with a referendum, or a GE requires the HOC to mandate the UK EU elections, starting on the 12th April as confirmed by Mark Stone, Sky's Europe editor, today
So in 17 days we have to have reach a majority agreement for a course of action, some complicated by the EU elections, and pass relevant legislation to enact the decision
No deal or TM deal still remain the most likely by the 12th April
#CCU replaces dead as a Do Do Deal tomorrow night IMO
I feel like the poor dodo gets overmentioned as far as extinct, flightless birds go. Perhaps it could be dead as a great auk instead?
Or Tibbles, the lighthouse owner's cat, who reputedly single-handedly made the Stephens Island Wren extinct. (Tibbles may have had some help from other feral cats.)
Ffsake 2nd ref is now being labelled as "confirmatory"...
If Corbyn wins the next GE do we get a confirmatory referendum where he 'll need over 50% to approve him getting in ? Obviously the alternative is the Tory status quo.
The HOC has to agree a brexit that commands majority support in the HOC but that is also able to meet the 12th April deadline
TM deal, (or similar), and no deal are the only relative straight forward ones
The rest including revoke, anthing with a referendum, or a GE requires the HOC to mandate the UK EU elections, starting on the 12th April as confirmed by Mark Stone, Sky's Europe editor, today
So in 17 days we have to have reach a majority agreement for a course of action, some complicated by the EU elections, and pass relevant legislation to enact the decision
No deal or TM deal still remain the most likely by the 12th April
#CCU replaces dead as a Do Do Deal tomorrow night IMO
I feel like the poor dodo gets overmentioned as far as extinct, flightless birds go. Perhaps it could be dead as a great auk instead?
Or Tibbles, the lighthouse owner's cat, who reputedly single-handedly made the Stephens Island Wren extinct. (Tibbles may have had some help from other feral cats.)
You sound like legal defence for poor Tibbles trying to argue reasonable doubt.
Thought that might happen with Labour. They don't really want Brexit with a Customs Union, they just needed to differentiate themselves from the Tories once May went down the soft Brexit route. Thus they've moved their attention to another alternative which has no chance of passing.
Ffsake 2nd ref is now being labelled as "confirmatory"...
If Corbyn wins the next GE do we get a confirmatory referendum where he 'll need over 50% to approve him getting in ? Obviously the alternative is the Tory status quo.
People seem to have hit on the idea that using confirmatory sells better than 'remain remain remain, no matter how we get it'. Though that last one is increasing in popuarity anyway.
Thought that might happen with Labour. They don't really want Brexit with a Customs Union, they just needed to differentiate themselves from the Tories once May went down the soft Brexit route. Thus they've moved their attention to another alternative which has no chance of passing.
Cynical, but possibly effective, and as you say very predictable.
Ffsake 2nd ref is now being labelled as "confirmatory"...
If Corbyn wins the next GE do we get a confirmatory referendum where he 'll need over 50% to approve him getting in ? Obviously the alternative is the Tory status quo.
The idea a second referendum will feature in any GE post 12th April assumes we will have sitting MEPs
Thought that might happen with Labour. They don't really want Brexit with a Customs Union, they just needed to differentiate themselves from the Tories once May went down the soft Brexit route. Thus they've moved their attention to another alternative which has no chance of passing.
The front bench is an absolute disgrace. At least Lucy Powell, Stephen Kinnock and a few others have genuinely been trying to work cross party on the most important matter in years in the house.
Stupid, stupid, stupid. It virtually guarantees no deal. I have comprehensively criticised Leavers for twisting on 18, and must criticise these misbegotten Remainers on the same grounds. This is juvenile behaviour. Just when you think MPs couldn't get lower in my estimation, they dig a deeper hole. Silly, petty, children.
Surely the amendment has it backwards anyway. At the last moment there should be a vote to revoke, if that fails we exit with no deal. Not the other way around.
Much easier for MPs to say they voted against No Deal rather than for Revoke.
The power of government to duck the hard choices facing the country has simply moved to MPs who are doing their best to duck the same hard choices.
Hang on, at least let them have the votes first, at least there's a plan to move from straight votes to whatever ranking preference plan they're coming up with to try and find some sort of consensus.
May doesn't do consensus. Corbyn doesn't do consensus. The SNP doesn't do consensus.
The power of government to duck the hard choices facing the country has simply moved to MPs who are doing their best to duck the same hard choices.
Hang on, at least let them have the votes first, at least there's a plan to move from straight votes to whatever ranking preference plan they're coming up with to try and find some sort of consensus.
May doesn't do consensus. Corbyn doesn't do consensus. The SNP doesn't do consensus.
Ranking unicorns by height won't solve anything.
Does one rank unicorns by height with or without the horn?
The House of Commons is a, & is in, complete disgrace.
The grandest establishment of the land is acting like a celebrity getting off a ban for speeding on a technicality by hiring an expensive lawyer, filibustering the voters in order to deny them what was promised to be ‘your decision’ in a ‘once in a generation vote’. Absolutely disgusting.
The power of government to duck the hard choices facing the country has simply moved to MPs who are doing their best to duck the same hard choices.
Hang on, at least let them have the votes first, at least there's a plan to move from straight votes to whatever ranking preference plan they're coming up with to try and find some sort of consensus.
May doesn't do consensus. Corbyn doesn't do consensus. The SNP doesn't do consensus.
Ranking unicorns by height won't solve anything.
Does one rank unicorns by height with or without the horn?
Best to keep your unicorn proclivities and fantasies to yourself
Ffsake 2nd ref is now being labelled as "confirmatory"...
If Corbyn wins the next GE do we get a confirmatory referendum where he 'll need over 50% to approve him getting in ? Obviously the alternative is the Tory status quo.
The idea a second referendum will feature in any GE post 12th April assumes we will have sitting MEPs
Which the public may not like. But politicians do. They like elections. They also like well-paid jobs for the party faithful. Not convinced it is an insurmountable hurdle. Besides. If we are still in, we should have representatives. To not have would be the worst of all outcomes.
Ffsake 2nd ref is now being labelled as "confirmatory"...
If Corbyn wins the next GE do we get a confirmatory referendum where he 'll need over 50% to approve him getting in ? Obviously the alternative is the Tory status quo.
Also, does this apply whenever the public appears to change its mind on anything they had a vote on. i.e. whoever wins the GE do we get the opportunity to vote again as soon as the opinion polls turn against the government of the day?
The House of Commons is a, & is in, complete disgrace.
The grandest establishment of the land is acting like a celebrity getting off a ban for speeding on a technicality by hiring an expensive lawyer, filibustering the voters in order to deny them what was promised to be ‘your decision’ in a ‘once in a generation vote’. Absolutely disgusting.
The power of government to duck the hard choices facing the country has simply moved to MPs who are doing their best to duck the same hard choices.
Hang on, at least let them have the votes first, at least there's a plan to move from straight votes to whatever ranking preference plan they're coming up with to try and find some sort of consensus.
May doesn't do consensus. Corbyn doesn't do consensus. The SNP doesn't do consensus.
Ranking unicorns by height won't solve anything.
Does one rank unicorns by height with or without the horn?
Best to keep your unicorn proclivities and fantasies to yourself
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The government has bought a $15.9m (£12m) seven bedroom luxury New York apartment for a senior British civil servant charged with signing fresh trade deals in a post-Brexit world, the Guardian can reveal.
The foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt oversaw the purchase of a 5,893 sq ft (574 sq metre) apartment as the official residence for Antony Phillipson, the UK trade commissioner for North America and consul general in New York.
Clever Clever stuff from Corbyn again.
I think you're right though - it would be a reasonable criteria for Bercow to use.
But sure, its all Corbyn's idea. Of course it is.
Raiders of the lost ...
Temple of ...
The last ...
None of them will win - deadlock beckons
Seriously
Time to get behind #CorbynsCustomsUnion Big G
Or does Bercow rule it out as it's already been rejected?
Or does it not need to be on the list tomorrow on the basis that the Govt will bring it back separately if / when it so desires?
And you are deluded if you think Corbyn wants anything to do with the EU. He seeks no deal
Presumably there are many who want all other options to fail, so that one like this must be used.
The existing WA doesn't have that commitment so it would need to be renegotiated.
Haha
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Brexit
(What the Brexiteers promised)
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Brexit
(The HoC at the moment)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Brexit
(Which we all are)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Brexit
(Give us back our British Goblets!)
Harry Potter and the Order of the Brexit
(The new name for the ERG)
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Brexit
(Because leavers are too old and decrepit to fight properly)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Brexit
(Enuf said).
For the same reason.
Because she's an idiot.
What the hell is wrong with the Clarke, Letwin #CCU proposal.
If its just because its #CCU. You need to grow up
(Incidentally I found out the other day that the professor is an able-bodied expy of Hawking, hence the name - Falken/falcon)
The HOC has to agree a brexit that commands majority support in the HOC but that is also able to meet the 12th April deadline
TM deal, (or similar), and no deal are the only relative straight forward ones
The rest including revoke, anthing with a referendum, or a GE requires the HOC to mandate the UK EU elections, starting on the 12th April as confirmed by Mark Stone, Sky's Europe editor, today
So in 17 days we have to have reach a majority agreement for a course of action, some complicated by the EU elections, and pass relevant legislation to enact the decision
No deal or TM deal still remain the most likely by the 12th April
I particularly liked: "Kissing Cum", "Millions of women are waiting to meet cum", and "The marks of cum"
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is us without any alcohol.
CCU is pointless and we are better revoking and remaining than that
Revocation is looking increasingly sensible.
There's zero intention to honour either the referendum result or the 2017 manifesto.
If Corbyn wins the next GE do we get a confirmatory referendum where he 'll need over 50% to approve him getting in ? Obviously the alternative is the Tory status quo.
The argument for a GE, which just might produce a majority government, or at least a working coalition grows by the hour.
Corbyn doesn't do consensus.
The SNP doesn't do consensus.
Ranking unicorns by height won't solve anything.
The grandest establishment of the land is acting like a celebrity getting off a ban for speeding on a technicality by hiring an expensive lawyer, filibustering the voters in order to deny them what was promised to be ‘your decision’ in a ‘once in a generation vote’. Absolutely disgusting.
Besides. If we are still in, we should have representatives. To not have would be the worst of all outcomes.