It could have been no deal if we had started planning for no deal the moment we decided to leave. But you couldn't trust this lot to organise a child's birthday party, let alone a disorderly no deal Brexit. No deal cannot be allowed to take place. If that means revocation, so be it. If that means a second referendum, so be it. If that means a general election, so be it. But to crash out to no deal now would be an act of national vandalism bordering on treason.
I see no real world evidence that no deal will be more damaging than ongoing uncertainty for years or the damage to trust and confidence that a revocation would cause.
Parliament has a binary choice. If it wants to stop no deal then it can ratify the only deal before it. If it wants to reject the deal, we can go to no deal. It really needs to be one of those two options and the decision needs to be made within the next week - it would be grossly negligent to continue this farce beyond that.
Are we prepared for no deal? If so, what preparations have been taken for no deal? Can we be reasonably certain the economy won't fall off a cliff? Etc. I want to leave, but I want to leave in an orderly manner. If that's not possible then the other options, however unpalatable, have to be considered. There's a case for revoke now to reset the clock to prepare for an orderly no deal. I can't see the case for crashing out to no deal when as far as I can see the government have made no preparations for that event.
Of course if we crash out to no deal and it ends up being a black Wednesday event (something that looked terrible for the economy in the weeks following the event, but ultimately was the right decision for the economy) then I will be happy to eat my words. But right now the thought of no deal terrifies me. I've been fairly consistent here in supporting May's deal since it was first announced. But if Parliament isn't wiling to vote for it, I'm not willing to risk jumping off the edge into the unknown. For me, it's an unacceptable level of risk. I can't be the only leaver thinking this. Can I?
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said after meeting the EU’s Brexit negotiator that he will push ahead with Brexit and seek to renegotiate the terms of the divorce deal.
Corbyn’s meeting with Michel Barnier on Thursday came as Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to get her divorce deal through parliament and has asked the EU for an extension to negotiations.
“Our determination is to find an agreement, which means we prevent a no-deal Brexit, and that we have a future constructive relationship with the European Union that could be negotiated during an extension period,” Corbyn told reporters.
I know he's the messiah, but in 7 days....at the rate the EU operates...be more of a miracle than water into wine and the feed the 5000 from seven loaves and fishes.
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said after meeting the EU’s Brexit negotiator that he will push ahead with Brexit and seek to renegotiate the terms of the divorce deal.
Corbyn’s meeting with Michel Barnier on Thursday came as Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to get her divorce deal through parliament and has asked the EU for an extension to negotiations.
“Our determination is to find an agreement, which means we prevent a no-deal Brexit, and that we have a future constructive relationship with the European Union that could be negotiated during an extension period,” Corbyn told reporters.
Adding about 1000 per minute at the moment. Should get to 1m soon after 3pm...
Honestly, and without meaning to be rude .... but who cares? We already know there are many millions of remainers out there. A meaningless petition, and one without any verification of identity, is rather useless.
Indeed. It is yet another form of displacement activity.
If the Remainers in Parliament (and there abundantly many of them) don't want No Deal, they have the numbers to do something about it.
They have been outwitted by thickos like Francois.
Outwitted by a moron.
I presume you're including those supporters of Tessy's deal among the outwitted?
Off-topic, but interesting snippet in Kevin Maguire's New Statesman column:
"Lib Dem staff are launching a covert ABC campaign – Anyone But Charmless – with resignations predicted should the brusque Jo “charmless” Swinson replace Vince Cable. My snout claims the Karl Marx of Twickenham was driven to despair by his deputy. I’m told he secretly favours Oxford’s Layla Moran."
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said after meeting the EU’s Brexit negotiator that he will push ahead with Brexit and seek to renegotiate the terms of the divorce deal.
Corbyn’s meeting with Michel Barnier on Thursday came as Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to get her divorce deal through parliament and has asked the EU for an extension to negotiations.
“Our determination is to find an agreement, which means we prevent a no-deal Brexit, and that we have a future constructive relationship with the European Union that could be negotiated during an extension period,” Corbyn told reporters.
Macron suggesting if MP s reject her deal again, we are en route to no deal, rather than long extension
fuck fuck fuck fuck...
Unless we revoke presumable...
Which rather demolishes the "don't worry, there are moves afoot. There's zero chance the EU will push us into no deal" comment I got from a source about an hour ago.
Things are slipping away from both May and May's succcessor's options at an increasing rate of knots.
Deal No Deal Revoke
Whatever option - it'll all be over next Friday. No extension.
A delay I would have thought needs full legislation because the exit date is already on the Statute Book with Royal Assent. So what new is going to be achieved with more time? Business will quite soon invest if we press on now. We will look back and wonder what all the fuss was about. A bit more British spirit rather than metropolitan liberal snowflake spirit needed.
The Withdrawal Act talks about "Exit Day", and although it is set as March 29th, that can be amended by a minister "by regulation", which I think we've established needs a simple vote in each house.
While we're in statute book corner, the FTPA says a replacement government can obtain the confidence of the House *within* the fortnight before an election's called:
An early parliamentary general election is also to take place if— (a)the House of Commons passes a motion in the form set out in subsection (4), and (b)the period of 14 days after the day on which that motion is passed ends without the House passing a motion in the form set out in subsection (5).
Adding about 1000 per minute at the moment. Should get to 1m soon after 3pm...
Honestly, and without meaning to be rude .... but who cares? We already know there are many millions of remainers out there. A meaningless petition, and one without any verification of identity, is rather useless.
Indeed. It is yet another form of displacement activity.
If the Remainers in Parliament (and there abundantly many of them) don't want No Deal, they have the numbers to do something about it.
They have been outwitted by thickos like Francois.
Outwitted by a moron.
I presume you're including those supporters of Tessy's deal among the outwitted?
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said after meeting the EU’s Brexit negotiator that he will push ahead with Brexit and seek to renegotiate the terms of the divorce deal.
Corbyn’s meeting with Michel Barnier on Thursday came as Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to get her divorce deal through parliament and has asked the EU for an extension to negotiations.
“Our determination is to find an agreement, which means we prevent a no-deal Brexit, and that we have a future constructive relationship with the European Union that could be negotiated during an extension period,” Corbyn told reporters.
Macron suggesting if MP s reject her deal again, we are en route to no deal, rather than long extension
fuck fuck fuck fuck...
Unless we revoke presumable...
I think you should make it clear where LK's comments stop and yours start. I nearly had heart failure thinking she said the 2nd sentence (if that can be called a sentence)
Macron suggesting if MP s reject her deal again, we are en route to no deal, rather than long extension
fuck fuck fuck fuck...
Unless we revoke presumable...
Which rather demolishes the "don't worry, there are moves afoot. There's zero chance the EU will push us into no deal" comment I got from a source about an hour ago.
Things are slipping away from both May and May's succcessor's options at an increasing rate of knots.
Deal No Deal Revoke
Whatever option - it'll all be over next Friday. No extension.
The EU are right to demand a decision, rather than giving more time to faff around.
Off-topic, but interesting snippet in Kevin Maguire's New Statesman column:
"Lib Dem staff are launching a covert ABC campaign – Anyone But Charmless – with resignations predicted should the brusque Jo “charmless” Swinson replace Vince Cable. My snout claims the Karl Marx of Twickenham was driven to despair by his deputy. I’m told he secretly favours Oxford’s Layla Moran."
Personally I agree. Jo doesn't have the reach needed to be an effective third party leader; she's obsessed with identity politics, and can be intensely irritating. Layla is by far the better choice, if a gamble as the chance has come her way rather earlier than would be ideal.
Adding about 1000 per minute at the moment. Should get to 1m soon after 3pm...
Honestly, and without meaning to be rude .... but who cares? We already know there are many millions of remainers out there. A meaningless petition, and one without any verification of identity, is rather useless.
Indeed. It is yet another form of displacement activity.
If the Remainers in Parliament (and there abundantly many of them) don't want No Deal, they have the numbers to do something about it.
They have been outwitted by thickos like Francois.
Outwitted by a moron.
I presume you're including those supporters of Tessy's deal among the outwitted?
Yes.
It is remarkable that No Deal has support of maybe 75 odd MPs, yet it looks like we may well be getting it.
If true, then both Tessy Dealers and Remainers have screwed up big time.
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said after meeting the EU’s Brexit negotiator that he will push ahead with Brexit and seek to renegotiate the terms of the divorce deal.
Corbyn’s meeting with Michel Barnier on Thursday came as Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to get her divorce deal through parliament and has asked the EU for an extension to negotiations.
“Our determination is to find an agreement, which means we prevent a no-deal Brexit, and that we have a future constructive relationship with the European Union that could be negotiated during an extension period,” Corbyn told reporters.
The idiot is talking about the future relationship. He doesn't even know what he's doing
It might not be a bad idea to invite Barnier to address Parliament ASAP and have him explain what the negotiations are about, because it seems abundantly clear to me that a lot of people are mixing up the withdrawal, transition, and future free trade deal.
Chris Hanretty, Professor of Politics, Royal Holloway.
"Unfortunately for bremainers, the constituencies which have been most supportive of this petition are also the places that voted most strongly for Remain. I’ve been able to remap the results of last Thursday’s referendum onto Westminster constituencies (currently for England and Wales only). Using that, I can work out the association between the percentage voting to leave, and the percentage of the electorate who have signed the petition.
The correlation between the percentage of voters who voted Remain and the proportion of the electorate who have signed the petition is extremely high (r=0.93). There’s little to cut against the idea that this petition comes from people who lost and are unhappy about the result."
Adding about 1000 per minute at the moment. Should get to 1m soon after 3pm...
Honestly, and without meaning to be rude .... but who cares? We already know there are many millions of remainers out there. A meaningless petition, and one without any verification of identity, is rather useless.
Indeed. It is yet another form of displacement activity.
If the Remainers in Parliament (and there abundantly many of them) don't want No Deal, they have the numbers to do something about it.
They have been outwitted by thickos like Francois.
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said after meeting the EU’s Brexit negotiator that he will push ahead with Brexit and seek to renegotiate the terms of the divorce deal.
Corbyn’s meeting with Michel Barnier on Thursday came as Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to get her divorce deal through parliament and has asked the EU for an extension to negotiations.
“Our determination is to find an agreement, which means we prevent a no-deal Brexit, and that we have a future constructive relationship with the European Union that could be negotiated during an extension period,” Corbyn told reporters.
The idiot is talking about the future relationship. He doesn't even know what he's doing
It might not be a bad idea to invite Barnier to address Parliament ASAP and have him explain what the negotiations are about, because it seems abundantly clear to me that a lot of people are mixing up the withdrawal, transition, and future free trade deal.
Certainly it should be clearly laid out do the electorate can see the games being played here
Without a weekend recall there is indeed very little time for the Commons to organise and vote for anything. There is incredibly little time left.
We are going to be seeing MPs vote at 10pm on the 29th aren't we?
"With less than hour to go before we leave the EU in a No Deal Brexit, we go over live to the House of Commons for the result of the MPs third vote on Theresa May's Deal....."
Off-topic, but interesting snippet in Kevin Maguire's New Statesman column:
"Lib Dem staff are launching a covert ABC campaign – Anyone But Charmless – with resignations predicted should the brusque Jo “charmless” Swinson replace Vince Cable. My snout claims the Karl Marx of Twickenham was driven to despair by his deputy. I’m told he secretly favours Oxford’s Layla Moran."
Personally I agree. Jo doesn't have the reach needed to be an effective third party leader; she's obsessed with identity politics, and can be intensely irritating. Layla is by far the better choice, if a gamble as the chance has come her way rather earlier than would be ideal.
What we need for extra kicks and giggles is a caught on microphone comment from a corbynite about holding firm and we can pin it all on the Tories. I wouldn't be remotely shocked if one were 'manufactured'
Macron suggesting if MP s reject her deal again, we are en route to no deal, rather than long extension
fuck fuck fuck fuck...
Unless we revoke presumable...
I think you should make it clear where LK's comments stop and yours start. I nearly had heart failure thinking she said the 2nd sentence (if that can be called a sentence)
Chris Hanretty, Professor of Politics, Royal Holloway.
"Unfortunately for bremainers, the constituencies which have been most supportive of this petition are also the places that voted most strongly for Remain. I’ve been able to remap the results of last Thursday’s referendum onto Westminster constituencies (currently for England and Wales only). Using that, I can work out the association between the percentage voting to leave, and the percentage of the electorate who have signed the petition.
The correlation between the percentage of voters who voted Remain and the proportion of the electorate who have signed the petition is extremely high (r=0.93). There’s little to cut against the idea that this petition comes from people who lost and are unhappy about the result."
Chris Hanretty, Professor of Politics, Royal Holloway.
"Unfortunately for bremainers, the constituencies which have been most supportive of this petition are also the places that voted most strongly for Remain. I’ve been able to remap the results of last Thursday’s referendum onto Westminster constituencies (currently for England and Wales only). Using that, I can work out the association between the percentage voting to leave, and the percentage of the electorate who have signed the petition.
The correlation between the percentage of voters who voted Remain and the proportion of the electorate who have signed the petition is extremely high (r=0.93). There’s little to cut against the idea that this petition comes from people who lost and are unhappy about the result."
Chris Hanretty, Professor of Politics, Royal Holloway.
"Unfortunately for bremainers, the constituencies which have been most supportive of this petition are also the places that voted most strongly for Remain. I’ve been able to remap the results of last Thursday’s referendum onto Westminster constituencies (currently for England and Wales only). Using that, I can work out the association between the percentage voting to leave, and the percentage of the electorate who have signed the petition.
The correlation between the percentage of voters who voted Remain and the proportion of the electorate who have signed the petition is extremely high (r=0.93). There’s little to cut against the idea that this petition comes from people who lost and are unhappy about the result."
But that is a 3 year old article that you are pretending is about today's petition. Good try but zero bananas.
In other news buy bananas now - future supplies are unknown...
There's a 0.96 r correlation between the 2nd ref and revoke petitions. The idea there is a whole heap of leavers for revoke out there is for the birds.
Off-topic, but interesting snippet in Kevin Maguire's New Statesman column:
"Lib Dem staff are launching a covert ABC campaign – Anyone But Charmless – with resignations predicted should the brusque Jo “charmless” Swinson replace Vince Cable. My snout claims the Karl Marx of Twickenham was driven to despair by his deputy. I’m told he secretly favours Oxford’s Layla Moran."
Personally I agree. Jo doesn't have the reach needed to be an effective third party leader; she's obsessed with identity politics, and can be intensely irritating. Layla is by far the better choice, if a gamble as the chance has come her way rather earlier than would be ideal.
I think Moran has the potential to be every bit as irritating as Swinson, possibly more so.
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said after meeting the EU’s Brexit negotiator that he will push ahead with Brexit and seek to renegotiate the terms of the divorce deal.
Corbyn’s meeting with Michel Barnier on Thursday came as Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to get her divorce deal through parliament and has asked the EU for an extension to negotiations.
“Our determination is to find an agreement, which means we prevent a no-deal Brexit, and that we have a future constructive relationship with the European Union that could be negotiated during an extension period,” Corbyn told reporters.
Chris Hanretty, Professor of Politics, Royal Holloway.
"Unfortunately for bremainers, the constituencies which have been most supportive of this petition are also the places that voted most strongly for Remain. I’ve been able to remap the results of last Thursday’s referendum onto Westminster constituencies (currently for England and Wales only). Using that, I can work out the association between the percentage voting to leave, and the percentage of the electorate who have signed the petition.
The correlation between the percentage of voters who voted Remain and the proportion of the electorate who have signed the petition is extremely high (r=0.93). There’s little to cut against the idea that this petition comes from people who lost and are unhappy about the result."
16.4 million to go - and it would still be just a petition even then.
I hope that no one who was holding up the Shamima Begum petition as a powerful indication of the national mood is now belittling the notion of petitions.
Chris Hanretty, Professor of Politics, Royal Holloway.
"Unfortunately for bremainers, the constituencies which have been most supportive of this petition are also the places that voted most strongly for Remain. I’ve been able to remap the results of last Thursday’s referendum onto Westminster constituencies (currently for England and Wales only). Using that, I can work out the association between the percentage voting to leave, and the percentage of the electorate who have signed the petition.
The correlation between the percentage of voters who voted Remain and the proportion of the electorate who have signed the petition is extremely high (r=0.93). There’s little to cut against the idea that this petition comes from people who lost and are unhappy about the result."
Other possible game changers - 500,000 remainers trash London on the weekend. Senior politician is caught saying something inflammatory about Brexit. VONC causes timeout. May refuses to act on parliaments vote and holds on till 11pm 29th. EU intervene and rule out any extension
Without a weekend recall there is indeed very little time for the Commons to organise and vote for anything. There is incredibly little time left.
Eight days left but for the Commons the long weekend is sacrosanct. Incredible.
A fair point. However, the government has no business it deems important enough to bring forward. We don't even know the business for next week. They could just sit there I suppose.
16.4 million to go - and it would still be just a petition even then.
I hope that no one who was holding up the Shamima Begum petition as a powerful indication of the national mood is now belittling the notion of petitions.
If Theresa May were to go to the EU and ask for a long extension on the basis that she's throwing in the towel and a new PM would take over, would they agree?
I'd suggest probably yes, although it wouldn't be guaranteed. Dunno if she'd do it though, still less whether it would resolve anything, and a leadership contest in current circumstances would not be a pretty sight.
My guess would be that she's not up for the optics of that, and would either drive over the cliff at 85mph, or would quit/indicate she planned to, then let Lidington as her deputy, Hunt as Foreign Sec (or Barclay - though I suspect he'd be off too) go into bat.
Revoking will cause avoid a proper national emergency
Corrected that for you.
You're welcome.
Yes because revoking without a referendum will be wildly popular and cause no unrest at all
Any evidence to back that up? If we revoke there will be a general election afterwards because the government has failed and a replacement with proper mandate would be required.
Revoking will cause avoid a proper national emergency
Corrected that for you.
You're welcome.
Yes because revoking without a referendum will be wildly popular and cause no unrest at all
Any evidence to back that up? If we revoke there will be a general election afterwards because the government has failed and a replacement with proper mandate would be required.
I don't have a crystal ball but I'd say it's a fairly likely outcome given the heat of division and numbers that voted to leave The 'revoke will be fine' mob are as bad as the 'no deal no problem' gang
Without a weekend recall there is indeed very little time for the Commons to organise and vote for anything. There is incredibly little time left.
Eight days left but for the Commons the long weekend is sacrosanct. Incredible.
A fair point. However, the government has no business it deems important enough to bring forward. We don't even know the business for next week. They could just sit there I suppose.
'The government has no business it deems important enough to bring forward.' Just incredible.
BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British Labour opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn said after meeting the EU’s Brexit negotiator that he will push ahead with Brexit and seek to renegotiate the terms of the divorce deal.
Corbyn’s meeting with Michel Barnier on Thursday came as Prime Minister Theresa May is struggling to get her divorce deal through parliament and has asked the EU for an extension to negotiations.
“Our determination is to find an agreement, which means we prevent a no-deal Brexit, and that we have a future constructive relationship with the European Union that could be negotiated during an extension period,” Corbyn told reporters.
Chris Hanretty, Professor of Politics, Royal Holloway.
"Unfortunately for bremainers, the constituencies which have been most supportive of this petition are also the places that voted most strongly for Remain. I’ve been able to remap the results of last Thursday’s referendum onto Westminster constituencies (currently for England and Wales only). Using that, I can work out the association between the percentage voting to leave, and the percentage of the electorate who have signed the petition.
The correlation between the percentage of voters who voted Remain and the proportion of the electorate who have signed the petition is extremely high (r=0.93). There’s little to cut against the idea that this petition comes from people who lost and are unhappy about the result."
But that is a 3 year old article that you are pretending is about today's petition. Good try but zero bananas.
In other news buy bananas now - future supplies are unknown...
There's a 0.96 r correlation between the 2nd ref and revoke petitions. The idea there is a whole heap of leavers for revoke out there is for the birds.
So just me and Wor Lass then? Both signed the Revoke petition.
I would not like to choose between deal - no deal - revoke
Deal is ready and moves us on, the other two are very controversial
All very true. But the deal is unpopular. And every time the PM opens her mouth to sell it, she puts her foot in it. So the choice is stark...and there will be no "Middle Way".
Revoking will cause avoid a proper national emergency
Corrected that for you.
You're welcome.
Yes because revoking without a referendum will be wildly popular and cause no unrest at all
I'll concede that there will be a group of confused old guys wandering around somewhere in the North at the moment who won't be best pleased.
That's not what will happen. No deal or revoke will cause chaos and civil unrest
No - it will cause a huge storm in the political world but about 99% of people are fed up to the back teeth with Brexit and will be happy to see the back of it. A small minority hold "die in the ditch" positions on either side but the vast majority of people do not. The usual nutters may try to stir things up but recent efforts by leave supporters to mobilise people on the streets have been a flop - Farage's risible march being the latest example.
Sorry, but her behaviour this last 24 hours (appealing directly to the public rather than to MPs, suddenly putting out videos with captions after usually being so averse to social media) only makes sense if she is planning a general election.
Whether her own MPs would allow her to lead them into an election is another matter. She seems to have gone completely deranged to me.
Revoking will cause avoid a proper national emergency
Corrected that for you.
You're welcome.
Yes because revoking without a referendum will be wildly popular and cause no unrest at all
I'll concede that there will be a group of confused old guys wandering around somewhere in the North at the moment who won't be best pleased.
That's not what will happen. No deal or revoke will cause chaos and civil unrest
No - it will cause a huge storm in the political world but about 99% of people are fed up to the back teeth with Brexit and will be happy to see the back of it. A small minority hold "die in the ditch" positions on either side but the vast majority of people do not. The usual nutters may try to stir things up but recent efforts by leave supporters to mobilise people on the streets have been a flop - Farage's risible march being the latest example.
I think that the electoral consequences would be unpleasant for MPs who backed Revoke, which is why it has not been attempted.
A vote to revoke would require a degree of courage which MPs have so far failed to display.
Now, if they could revoke while passing the buck...…..
Is it even legally clear whether the Commons can unilaterally revoke without government involvement? Surely it is not.
That's why I think they'd have to pass a VONC, and then presumably, a resolution requesting revocation. I expect the EU would grant an extension in that situation.
A vote to revoke would require a degree of courage which MPs have so far failed to display.
Now, if they could revoke while passing the buck...…..
Is it even legally clear whether the Commons can unilaterally revoke without government involvement? Surely it is not.
No, the PM would have to enact it using the prerogative. If she refuses parliament cannot force her, only no confidence and try and get a new PM before 11pm 29th to do it. Or HMQ herself but she would never do it
Revoking will cause avoid a proper national emergency
Corrected that for you.
You're welcome.
Yes because revoking without a referendum will be wildly popular and cause no unrest at all
I'll concede that there will be a group of confused old guys wandering around somewhere in the North at the moment who won't be best pleased.
That's not what will happen. No deal or revoke will cause chaos and civil unrest
No - it will cause a huge storm in the political world but about 99% of people are fed up to the back teeth with Brexit and will be happy to see the back of it. A small minority hold "die in the ditch" positions on either side but the vast majority of people do not. The usual nutters may try to stir things up but recent efforts by leave supporters to mobilise people on the streets have been a flop - Farage's risible march being the latest example.
I think that the electoral consequences would be unpleasant for MPs who backed Revoke, which is why it has not been attempted.
How many MPs who voted against invoking Article 50 suffered for it in the 2017 General Election?
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Of course if we crash out to no deal and it ends up being a black Wednesday event (something that looked terrible for the economy in the weeks following the event, but ultimately was the right decision for the economy) then I will be happy to eat my words. But right now the thought of no deal terrifies me. I've been fairly consistent here in supporting May's deal since it was first announced. But if Parliament isn't wiling to vote for it, I'm not willing to risk jumping off the edge into the unknown. For me, it's an unacceptable level of risk. I can't be the only leaver thinking this. Can I?
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Macron suggesting if MP s reject her deal again, we are en route to no deal, rather than long extension
fuck fuck fuck fuck...
Unless we revoke presumable...
"Lib Dem staff are launching a covert ABC campaign – Anyone But Charmless – with resignations predicted should the brusque Jo “charmless” Swinson replace Vince Cable. My snout claims the Karl Marx of Twickenham was driven to despair by his deputy. I’m told he secretly favours Oxford’s Layla Moran."
Things are slipping away from both May and May's succcessor's options at an increasing rate of knots.
Deal
No Deal
Revoke
Whatever option - it'll all be over next Friday. No extension.
While we're in statute book corner, the FTPA says a replacement government can obtain the confidence of the House *within* the fortnight before an election's called:
An early parliamentary general election is also to take place if—
(a)the House of Commons passes a motion in the form set out in subsection (4), and
(b)the period of 14 days after the day on which that motion is passed ends without the House passing a motion in the form set out in subsection (5).
It is remarkable that No Deal has support of maybe 75 odd MPs, yet it looks like we may well be getting it.
If true, then both Tessy Dealers and Remainers have screwed up big time.
"Unfortunately for bremainers, the constituencies which have been most supportive of this petition are also the places that voted most strongly for Remain. I’ve been able to remap the results of last Thursday’s referendum onto Westminster constituencies (currently for England and Wales only). Using that, I can work out the association between the percentage voting to leave, and the percentage of the electorate who have signed the petition.
The correlation between the percentage of voters who voted Remain and the proportion of the electorate who have signed the petition is extremely high (r=0.93). There’s little to cut against the idea that this petition comes from people who lost and are unhappy about the result."
https://medium.com/@chrishanretty/are-we-bremorseful-yet-e0506c826ad2
"With less than hour to go before we leave the EU in a No Deal Brexit, we go over live to the House of Commons for the result of the MPs third vote on Theresa May's Deal....."
In other news buy bananas now - future supplies are unknown...
Owen Jones, outrider for the inner circle says what we all know 'reinforcing the EU’s anti-democratic grip on economic policy'
They want a No-Deal....
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1108743846488403970
https://twitter.com/chrishanretty/status/1108701393836302336
You're welcome.
They could just sit there I suppose.
Deal it is then
Now, if they could revoke while passing the buck...…..
Parliament on Theresa May: "She forced us to do it."
Deal is ready and moves us on, the other two are very controversial
The 'revoke will be fine' mob are as bad as the 'no deal no problem' gang
Just incredible.
Do we have to let her back in?
But the deal is unpopular. And every time the PM opens her mouth to sell it, she puts her foot in it.
So the choice is stark...and there will be no "Middle Way".
The idea the Commons could revoke Article 50 and then all would be calm down and go back to normal is mad.
The Saj to revoke her citizenship while she's out
He has form after all
Whether her own MPs would allow her to lead them into an election is another matter. She seems to have gone completely deranged to me.
Or HMQ herself but she would never do it
(Again. I'm liking this Blitz spirit humour from PB.)
https://twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1108748072744636416
I'm surprised this hasn't been considered sooner.