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edited December 2018 in General

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Confidence vote watch. I know it’s a dangerous game to play and Sir Graham is keeper of the list. But my ERG sources pretty confident now that 48 trigger been breached. Of course Sir Graham won’t announce while PM out of country – and we’ve been here before. But mood hardening

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  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    Yeah it is on.

    The CJEU ruling was a game changer.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    48th!
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,127
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    All you need is Gove.....

    ....

    ....

    Gove is all you need.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,042
    Pundit on Sky News just said 5 letters submitted today. Perhaps.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    You can't hurry Gove
    No you just have to wait
    Gove don't come easy
    It's a game of give and take
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,738
    FPT
    Stark_Dawning said:

    I feel a bit sorry for Theresa. Those who praised her ABBA dance only a short time ago now come to destroy her.

    She could try Kylie Minogue next.

    It's a crazy situation
    You always keep be waiting
    Because it's only make believe
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    Embattled, the PM leaves London to negotiate with European leaders, insisting that she will carry on as normal. But she has misjudged her MPs. That night, No10's erratic, desperate briefings exacerbate the mutiny. The next day, she rushes back. Too late. Nov 22 1990: she resigns.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,042
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    A modern-day Lady Jane Grey.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    edited December 2018
    It's time. It was time a long time ago, but now the time really is time.

    Remainers see their chance under a new leader. Hard leavers frankly should have sent letters ages ago, as should anyone who quit cabinet. It's too much.
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,914
    grabcocque said:

    Embattled, the PM leaves London to negotiate with European leaders, insisting that she will carry on as normal. But she has misjudged her MPs. That night, No10's erratic, desperate briefings exacerbate the mutiny. The next day, she rushes back. Too late. Nov 22 1990: she resigns.

    Yes, quite a parallel.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,895
    Cos you got Gove
    Gove
    Gove on your side
    Cos you got Gove
    Gove
    Gove on your side
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    grabcocque said:

    Embattled, the PM leaves London to negotiate with European leaders, insisting that she will carry on as normal. But she has misjudged her MPs. That night, No10's erratic, desperate briefings exacerbate the mutiny. The next day, she rushes back. Too late. Nov 22 1990: she resigns.

    Though Thatcher remained PM until Nov 28th 1990 when Major succeeded her.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,992
    I thought the new thread would be about how Theresa May had lost Big G.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,676
    Too much Gove will kill you.
    Give will tear us apart again.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    SandyRentool said:

    Pundit on Sky News just said 5 letters submitted today. Perhaps.

    That takes us to a sum total of 4 then, in Brady arithmetic.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,134
    SandyRentool said:

    Pundit on Sky News just said 5 letters submitted today. Perhaps.

    Will somebody think of poor Graham’s shredder...Doing longer shifts than a kid in a Far East sweat shop.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,776
    Let's put Liddington in as temp PM and then I get have more champagne at Xmas.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    Mortimer said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    All you need is Gove.....

    ....

    ....

    Gove is all you need.
    Ahem.

    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need Mrs May.

    Tainted Gove.

    Gove will tear us apart.

    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/06/06/all-you-need-is-gove-gove-gove-is-all-you-need-mrs-may/
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,414
    williamglenn said:

    FPT

    Stark_Dawning said:

    I feel a bit sorry for Theresa. Those who praised her ABBA dance only a short time ago now come to destroy her.

    She could try Kylie Minogue next.

    It's a crazy situation
    You always keep be waiting
    Because it's only make believe
    Be careful .A lot of Spinning Around.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    If she doesn't contest it, that proves she's been acting in the national interest, and so should therefore continue. #Catch1922
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Yeah it is on.

    The CJEU ruling was a game changer.

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    1. Entire Tory party unites around... Gove?! Why?
    2. What has the ECJ to do with this? Is Gove meant to be revoking A50, or holding a carbon-copy re-run of the first referendum?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,626
    FPT: Big_G, nobody could ever doubt your loyalty to the PM. Above and beyond the call of duty, Sir.

    That she has lost you means she has now lost literally EVERYBODY.
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    I think that would be the best course of action.



  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,914
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Yeah it is on.

    The CJEU ruling was a game changer.

    Was it? Did they give us a 'get out of jail' card and will anyone be prepared to use it?
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Mortimer said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    All you need is Gove.....

    ....

    ....

    Gove is all you need.
    Ahem.

    All you need is Gove, Gove, Gove is all you need Mrs May.

    Tainted Gove.

    Gove will tear us apart.

    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/06/06/all-you-need-is-gove-gove-gove-is-all-you-need-mrs-may/
    How well-founded do you think the rumour of a Gove coronation is?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,626
    Andrew said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Pundit on Sky News just said 5 letters submitted today. Perhaps.

    That takes us to a sum total of 4 then, in Brady arithmetic.
    Put one in....take two out.....that is the Brady way!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,502
    Great news put one of the ERG nutjobs in to own this sorry mess . As soon as they come out with their managed no deal fantasy the Tories will completely implode !
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,738
    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Yeah it is on.

    The CJEU ruling was a game changer.

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    1. Entire Tory party unites around... Gove?! Why?
    2. What has the ECJ to do with this? Is Gove meant to be revoking A50, or holding a carbon-copy re-run of the first referendum?
    If the Tory Plan B is a Gove coronation and Norway Plus, they are making a big mistake.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    We're heading for something
    Somewhere I've never been, sometimes I am frightened
    But I'm ready to learn 'bout the power of Gove
    Ooh, the power of Gove
    The power of Gove

    Sometimes I am frightened
    But I'm ready to learn 'bout the power of Gove
  • Donny43Donny43 Posts: 634
    dixiedean said:

    williamglenn said:

    FPT

    Stark_Dawning said:

    I feel a bit sorry for Theresa. Those who praised her ABBA dance only a short time ago now come to destroy her.

    She could try Kylie Minogue next.

    It's a crazy situation
    You always keep be waiting
    Because it's only make believe
    Be careful .A lot of Spinning Around.
    dixiedean said:

    williamglenn said:

    FPT

    Stark_Dawning said:

    I feel a bit sorry for Theresa. Those who praised her ABBA dance only a short time ago now come to destroy her.

    She could try Kylie Minogue next.

    It's a crazy situation
    You always keep be waiting
    Because it's only make believe
    Be careful .A lot of Spinning Around.
    Tears on my pillow
    Pain in my heart
    Caused by EU
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,626
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    If Gove tries pushing Norway+, the letters will be in before Christmas......
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    Right my focus for the rest of the evening is on Liverpool v Napoli.

    Can the Tory party go stand in the naughty corner for the rest of the evening please.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    williamglenn said:

    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Yeah it is on.

    The CJEU ruling was a game changer.

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    1. Entire Tory party unites around... Gove?! Why?
    2. What has the ECJ to do with this? Is Gove meant to be revoking A50, or holding a carbon-copy re-run of the first referendum?
    If the Tory Plan B is a Gove coronation and Norway Plus, they are making a big mistake.
    It's better than plan A which is frantic acts of futility until March.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,626
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'

    Gove will tear us apart......
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,895
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    Theresa May in that classic movie "PM Training Day":

    "Aww, you motherf*ckers. Okay. Alright. I'm putting cases on all you bitches. Huh. You think you can do this shit... Boris! You think you can do this to me? You motherf*ckers will be playing basketball in Wormwood Scrubs when I get finished with you! SHU program, baby. 23 hour lockdown. I'm the man up in this piece. You'll never see the light of... who the f*ck do you think you're f*cking with? I'm the Prime Minister, I run shit around here! You just sit here! Yeah, that's right, you better walk away. Go on and walk away... 'cause I'm gonna' burn this motherf*cker down. Maggie T ain't got shit on me! That's right, that's right. Shit, I don't, f*ck. I'm winning anyway, I'm winning... I'm winning any motherf*cking way. I can't lose. Yeah, you can vote against me, but you can't kill me!"
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    If Gove tries pushing Norway+, the letters will be in before Christmas......
    Not if he's not Tory leader.
  • XenonXenon Posts: 471
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    Anyone know his strategy from here?

    Please not just trying to sell the same deal over and over again.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'

    No no.

    Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world because only his friends hate him
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    edited December 2018
    Black_Rook said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Yeah it is on.

    The CJEU ruling was a game changer.

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    1. Entire Tory party unites around... Gove?! Why?
    2. What has the ECJ to do with this? Is Gove meant to be revoking A50, or holding a carbon-copy re-run of the first referendum?
    The ruling severely undermined the threat of no deal and has emboldened remainers to play ball even less and open up more optiions for a referendum.

    The biggest Tory of my acquaintance reckons gove is The only stopgap leader. Not liked by either side now but slippery and pragmatic enough to maybe get them through.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    grabcocque said:

    We're heading for something
    Somewhere I've never been, sometimes I am frightened
    But I'm ready to learn 'bout the power of Gove
    Ooh, the power of Gove
    The power of Gove

    Sometimes I am frightened
    But I'm ready to learn 'bout the power of Gove

    Don't need money, don't take fame
    Don't need no credit card to ride this train
    It's strong and it's sudden and it's cruel sometimes
    But it might just save your life
    That's the power of Gove
    That's the power of Gove
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    Big G has sent his letter.
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    I am greatly saddened to see TM meeting EU leaders and receiving a wall of 'no change'.

    I do believe it is now in the national interest she stands down and hands the batton over and the Xmas break gives the party some time to appoint an interim leader

    She has made a misjudgement by consistently rebutting a second referendum and alienating that wing of the party. The party is fracturing and needs a new direction

    I have loyally supported TM and admire so many of her attributes including her brexit knowledge, her politeness and indeed kindness, but for all our sakes, and indeed hers, now is the time to make way for a new start

    Is @HYUFD still on board.

    I too would like a contest so I can relay 2018 cheaply.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    Xenon said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    Anyone know his strategy from here?

    Please not just trying to sell the same deal over and over again.
    Some variant on Norway with a permanent CU backstop seems to be the magic words.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,626
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'

    No no.

    Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world because only his friends hate him
    Gove has friends?
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    https://twitter.com/theobertram/status/1072540818135793664
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    grabcocque said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    If Gove tries pushing Norway+, the letters will be in before Christmas......
    Not if he's not Tory leader.
    Does the new leader after a party VONC and election get a grace period before they can be party VONCed?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    edited December 2018
    Xenon said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    Anyone know his strategy from here?

    Please not just trying to sell the same deal over and over again.
    Simple, the WA is for the short term, the long term deal is what everyone should be focussing on.

    Plus the EU hate the backstop and want us out of it PDQ.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    Problem with any Tory contest is they'll say they will reunite the party, then when they cannot find a unicorn the ultras like grieve and reesmogg will go back to agitating.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389
    grabcocque said:

    Xenon said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    Anyone know his strategy from here?

    Please not just trying to sell the same deal over and over again.
    Some variant on Norway with a permanent CU backstop seems to be the magic words.
    Is the House of Commons actually capable of taking a decision on that, or anything?
  • FensterFenster Posts: 2,115
    From a purely selfish point of view I suspect Theresa May would love to last to the New Year.

    Theresa May PM 2016-2019 looks a lot better than Theresa May PM 2016-2018.

    I'm no fan of her but I've no doubt she's given it 100% and deserves the 2019. She's uninspired but a proper workhorse.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    edited December 2018
    I think remainers could stomach Norway+, until the country decides to resume full membership in a few years.

    BUT, I don't think the EU will allow it. They'd need to repopen the WA and extend A50 perhaps indefinitely. A deal is on the table, so why would they?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'

    No no.

    Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world because only his friends hate him
    Gove has friends?
    Well he's friends with George Osborne CH.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389
    grabcocque said:

    I think remainers could stomach Norway+, until the country decides to resume full membership in a few years.

    BUT, I don't think the EU will allow it. They'd need to repopen the WA and extend A50 perhaps indefinitely. A deal is on the table, so why would they?

    Norway is for life, not for now.
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    grabcocque said:

    I think remainers could stomach Norway+, until the country decides to resume full membership in a few years.

    BUT, I don't think the EU will allow it. They'd need to repopen the WA and extend A50 perhaps indefinitely. A deal is on the table, so why would they?

    We are not going to be rejoining anytime soon.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,914
    I wonder if the Tories are aware of the contempt in which they are presently held? With the single exception of Theresa May the rest have behaved atrociously and even if they're facing Corbyn at the next election they're in for a hammering
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    edited December 2018
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'

    No no.

    Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world because only his friends hate him
    Gove has friends?
    Well he's friends with George Osborne CH.
    The Standard, let's not forget, has been pounding the Norway+ drum since day one. This is just continuity Cameronism coming home!

    HE'S COMING HOME
    HE'S COMING HOME
    DISHFACE COMING HOME
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,712
    edited December 2018
    May at EU Council on Thur/Fri - so likely that VONC wouldn't happen till start of next week.

    There's then not enough time for both nominations and MP ballots before Christmas.

    Timetable is such that it's going to be a complete charade without a coronation.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    notme said:

    grabcocque said:

    I think remainers could stomach Norway+, until the country decides to resume full membership in a few years.

    BUT, I don't think the EU will allow it. They'd need to repopen the WA and extend A50 perhaps indefinitely. A deal is on the table, so why would they?

    We are not going to be rejoining anytime soon.
    You're right, because we're not leaving at all.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    Sean_F said:

    grabcocque said:

    I think remainers could stomach Norway+, until the country decides to resume full membership in a few years.

    BUT, I don't think the EU will allow it. They'd need to repopen the WA and extend A50 perhaps indefinitely. A deal is on the table, so why would they?

    Norway is for life, not for now.
    A Norway is for life
    Not just for christmas
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389
    Roger said:

    I wonder if the Tories are aware of the contempt in which they are presently held? With the single exception of Theresa May the rest have behaved atrociously and even if they're facing Corbyn at the next election they're in for a hammering

    Fortunately for the Tories, all three parties are held in contempt.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,738
    Tissue_Price said:

    grabcocque said:

    We're heading for something
    Somewhere I've never been, sometimes I am frightened
    But I'm ready to learn 'bout the power of Gove
    Ooh, the power of Gove
    The power of Gove

    Sometimes I am frightened
    But I'm ready to learn 'bout the power of Gove

    Don't need money, don't take fame
    Don't need no credit card to ride this train
    It's strong and it's sudden and it's cruel sometimes
    But it might just save your life
    That's the power of Gove
    That's the power of Gove
    You probably didn’t think I did, but I heard
    You say that Gove is just a four letter word
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    grabcocque said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'

    No no.

    Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world because only his friends hate him
    Gove has friends?
    Well he's friends with George Osborne CH.
    The Standard, let's not forget, has been pounding the Norway+ drum since day one. This is just continuity Cameronism coming home!

    HE'S COMING HOME
    HE'S COMING HOME
    DISHFACE COMING HOME
    But Dave views with Gove with the same affection that I have for Mark Reckless.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,992
    Talking to my taxi driver (from Belfast) who voted Leave. He is angry at the EU for meddling in the affairs of the Member States and also he is angry at the EU for doing nothing to help its Member States when they are in trouble.

    Laydeezngennlemen - Brexit.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,163
    Roger said:

    I wonder if the Tories are aware of the contempt in which they are presently held? With the single exception of Theresa May the rest have behaved atrociously and even if they're facing Corbyn at the next election they're in for a hammering

    While i do think they would lose, let's not forget they are currently at least as popular or more popular nationally than any other party.
  • notmenotme Posts: 3,293
    grabcocque said:

    Sean_F said:

    grabcocque said:

    I think remainers could stomach Norway+, until the country decides to resume full membership in a few years.

    BUT, I don't think the EU will allow it. They'd need to repopen the WA and extend A50 perhaps indefinitely. A deal is on the table, so why would they?

    Norway is for life, not for now.
    A Norway is for life
    Not just for christmas

    Customs union however is a step too far, it is literally the softest possible Brexit.
  • Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'

    No no.

    Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world because only his friends hate him
    Gove has friends?
    Well he's friends with George Osborne CH.
    Would it be churlish to say they deserve each other?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    Tissue_Price said:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318

    Has George Freeman just said what I've been saying for the last 90 minutes?

    TEMPORARY CORONATION, IT'S ON LADS AND LADIES.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    CABLE LIMBO DANCE

    Price (USD)1.2516
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    Carolus_Rex said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'

    No no.

    Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world because only his friends hate him
    Gove has friends?
    Well he's friends with George Osborne CH.
    Would it be churlish to say they deserve each other?
    Yes.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    Labour have just voted against a motion tabled by Corbyn. Bizarre.
  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,239
    edited December 2018
    There really is only one song that will do now. Let me ask you a question:


    What time is Gove?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318

    Has George Freeman just said what I've been saying for the last 90 minutes?

    TEMPORARY CORONATION, IT'S ON LADS AND LADIES.
    Shall we call it a regency?
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    notme said:

    grabcocque said:

    Sean_F said:

    grabcocque said:

    I think remainers could stomach Norway+, until the country decides to resume full membership in a few years.

    BUT, I don't think the EU will allow it. They'd need to repopen the WA and extend A50 perhaps indefinitely. A deal is on the table, so why would they?

    Norway is for life, not for now.
    A Norway is for life
    Not just for christmas

    Customs union however is a step too far, it is literally the softest possible Brexit.
    It's the hardest Brexit that avoids the need for either a backstop, or cleaving off Northern Ireland from rUK.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,776
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318

    Has George Freeman just said what I've been saying for the last 90 minutes?

    TEMPORARY CORONATION, IT'S ON LADS AND LADIES.
    Just make sure its Liddington will you please.
  • grabcocquegrabcocque Posts: 4,234
    Baron Hague to be the first Prime Minister from the Lords in... oooh, ages.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,626
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    grabcocque said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    A text from someone

    'Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world, even his friends think he's a c***'

    No no.

    Gove doesn't have an enemy in the world because only his friends hate him
    Gove has friends?
    Well he's friends with George Osborne CH.
    The Standard, let's not forget, has been pounding the Norway+ drum since day one. This is just continuity Cameronism coming home!

    HE'S COMING HOME
    HE'S COMING HOME
    DISHFACE COMING HOME
    But Dave views with Gove with the same affection that I have for Mark Reckless.
    Gove's knifing of Boris is why we are where we are. We ended up with no contest, just the Coronation of Remainer Theresa May. Boris standing and a) winning or b) losing would each have drawn plenty of lines under Brexit implementation.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,220
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Labour have just voted against a motion tabled by Corbyn. Bizarre.

    The ayes to the right zero ????????
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Labour have just voted against a motion tabled by Corbyn. Bizarre.

    I think that's the conventional vote to register discontent on a neutral-terms motion. I agree it's all a bit silly.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    https://twitter.com/stephenkb/status/1072544569877807105
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,712
    Practicalities are such that only options are coronation OR ballot restricted to MPs - ie once down to Final 2 then MPs choose winner.

    There are two justifications - practicalities/speed and also "exceptional political situation means leader must have maximum support of MPs - leader cannot be the MPs 2nd choice"
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,494
    MarqueeMark said:

    Andrew said:

    SandyRentool said:

    Pundit on Sky News just said 5 letters submitted today. Perhaps.

    That takes us to a sum total of 4 then, in Brady arithmetic.
    Put one in....take two out.....that is the Brady way!
    That's 'Sir Graham' to you peasant.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389

    I expect that Andrew Bridgen will be fancying his leadership chances.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,626
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318

    Has George Freeman just said what I've been saying for the last 90 minutes?

    TEMPORARY CORONATION, IT'S ON LADS AND LADIES.
    Yet again, no vote for the members.....

    Much at the moment is Pythonesque, but this seems apposite.

    PM: Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!
    WOMAN: Order, eh -- who does he think he is?
    PM: I am your PM!
    WOMAN: Well, I didn't vote for you.
    PM: You don't vote for PMs.
    WOMAN: Well, 'ow did you become PM then?
    PM: The Lady of the Lake,
    [angels sing]
    her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur
    from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I was to carry Excalibur.
    [singing stops]
    That is why I am your PM!
  • timmotimmo Posts: 1,469
    rottenborough said:

    Let's put Liddington in as temp PM and then I get have more champagne at Xmas.

    He is the biggest Europhile in the government.
    I went to a dinner at conference the year before the referendum ..he gave the keynote speech in which he belittled leavers. And had absutely no idea a leave vote coul even happen..he wouldnt contemplate it.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,871
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318

    Has George Freeman just said what I've been saying for the last 90 minutes?

    TEMPORARY CORONATION, IT'S ON LADS AND LADIES.
    How do you get a caretaker if she is not removed and wont resign?
  • tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,565
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318

    Has George Freeman just said what I've been saying for the last 90 minutes?

    TEMPORARY CORONATION, IT'S ON LADS AND LADIES.
    Question 1 to the heir presumptive: So what do you think about Brexit then?

    Answer 1: Having viewed the negotiations so far I feel the country needs us to...[rest of answer drowned out by sounds of Tory MPs submitting nomination papers to oppose them.]
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,871
    notme said:

    grabcocque said:

    Sean_F said:

    grabcocque said:

    I think remainers could stomach Norway+, until the country decides to resume full membership in a few years.

    BUT, I don't think the EU will allow it. They'd need to repopen the WA and extend A50 perhaps indefinitely. A deal is on the table, so why would they?

    Norway is for life, not for now.
    A Norway is for life
    Not just for christmas

    Customs union however is a step too far, it is literally the softest possible Brexit.
    The softest possible Brexit is clearly, in the circumstances, the most sensible.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,776
    grabcocque said:

    Baron Hague to be the first Prime Minister from the Lords in... oooh, ages.

    Can someone put Hague up on the BF board for Next PM please?
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    MikeL said:

    Practicalities are such that only options are coronation OR ballot restricted to MPs - ie once down to Final 2 then MPs choose winner.

    There are two justifications - practicalities/speed and also "exceptional political situation means leader must have maximum support of MPs - leader cannot be the MPs 2nd choice"

    Well, those aren't the rules. The best way to arrange a coronation would be for all the MPs who want one to split their votes between two candidates who've agreed in advance that one will pull out like Leadsom did.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    rottenborough said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318

    Has George Freeman just said what I've been saying for the last 90 minutes?

    TEMPORARY CORONATION, IT'S ON LADS AND LADIES.
    Just make sure its Liddington will you please.
    Anyone of Jeremy Hunt, David Lidington, Sajid Javid, Matt Hancock, Philip Hammond, Michael Gove, Penny Mordaunt, Andrea Leadsom, **checks rest of my betting portfolio**, Damien Green or Sir Michael Fallon would be acceptable.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,134
    edited December 2018
    Footage of Sir Graham's office assistant at work this morning,

    image
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,871
    Richard_Nabavi said:

    Labour have just voted against a motion tabled by Corbyn. Bizarre.

    BBC:

    299 voted against the motion, with zero voting in favour.
    The motion was neutral and non-binding, so has no consequences.

    More fundamentally, it wasn't carried so has "no consequences"
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,814
    Mr. Eagles, Mordaunt, Hunt, or Javid would clearly be best.
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506
    If we take the Norway option we will be in the EEA and EFTA.

    So during the transition period would we then face years of BREXIT from the EEA and EFTA in order to avoid free movement of labour?
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,505
    She’d better bloody survive until 1st January.

    I’ve got a three figure profit lined up on that on any day thereafter!
  • XenonXenon Posts: 471
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Xenon said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Temporary Gove coronation, you heard it here first.

    Anyone know his strategy from here?

    Please not just trying to sell the same deal over and over again.
    Simple, the WA is for the short term, the long term deal is what everyone should be focussing on.

    Plus the EU hate the backstop and want us out of it PDQ.
    So exactly the same strategy as May who can't get the deal through the commons.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,389
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    rottenborough said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318

    Has George Freeman just said what I've been saying for the last 90 minutes?

    TEMPORARY CORONATION, IT'S ON LADS AND LADIES.
    Just make sure its Liddington will you please.
    Anyone of Jeremy Hunt, David Lidington, Sajid Javid, Matt Hancock, Philip Hammond, Michael Gove, Penny Mordaunt, Andrea Leadsom, **checks rest of my betting portfolio**, Damien Green or Sir Michael Fallon would be acceptable.
    What would you do if the winner was Andrew Bridgen, Andrea Jenkyns, or Mark Francois?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,694
    IanB2 said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Tissue_Price said:

    https://twitter.com/GeorgeFreemanMP/status/1072540881494925318

    Has George Freeman just said what I've been saying for the last 90 minutes?

    TEMPORARY CORONATION, IT'S ON LADS AND LADIES.
    How do you get a caretaker if she is not removed and wont resign?
    Several ways, oust her in a Party VONC.

    Or leave her as leader and make someone else PM, you don't need to be party leader to be PM, you just need the confidence of the House.
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