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The BBC is reporting that both Corbyn and TMay have accepted invites to take part in a Brexit debate. Only problem is that the former wants it to be on ITV while the latter prefers the BBC.
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Give me a break.
As Oscar Wilde said, the problem with socialism is that it takes up far too many of your evenings.
Hoey vs Lammy - the ultimate Labour debate as to why the deal is terrible for completely opposing reasons.
Foster vs Mary Lou McDonnell - Good one for NI
Boris vs Soubry - the ultimate Tory debate as to why the deal is terrible for completely opposing reasons.
Clarke vs Mogg grudge match
Flint vs Grieve - Labour vs Tory debate with a few twists
Cable vs Batten - Minor UK wide party debate
Geordie Grieg vs Dacre - New Mail vs Old Mail.
Barnier vs Boris - "Non", "Non", "Non".
(The Eye claims Dacre's daily editorial briefings were known at the Mail as "the Vagina Monologues" because of how much he used the c-word.)
Too soon?
If May had agreed to ITV, he would want BBC as they are the gold standard, watched by the most people, yadda yadda yadda.
I still haven't worked out why Team May thinks all of this is a good idea, it isn't as if she is a crack debater (more like cack debater) or overly confident in their ability e.g. Blair or Cameron.
@tpfkar - Completely agreed that the meaning of Remain and No Deal must be made at least as clear as the meaning of Deal. If I were a computer program I'd probably also agree that AV would be best because uniquely of the 5 it treats all options the same. In practice, though, Leave or Remain is a different kind of issue from what relationship to have with EU27 if it's Leave, a point which Remainers would be make if Deal were to win under AV.
I don't even want to imagine how politicians would play politics with the various options for a 3-option referendum or pair of referendums. The best they can come up with on the substantive issue is No Deal. The Westminster blob of government plus Parliament has failed the country. That's going to take a long time to sort out, if it ever is sorted out. Let's have a referendum on what the blob HAS come up with, which is No Deal. The alternative has got to be Remain, for reasons that include the fact that it's consistently showing as more popular in the polls than either Deal or No Deal.
Imagine if the electorate is allowed to choose Deal and they do. Do we want ANOTHER round of politicians sickmakingly saying "We don't agree with the people, but the people are our masters and so we must obey them", which we've put up with since 2016?
Not much in the scheme of things with the fate of the nation at stake, but it's not like there's a strong likelihood of much upside.
Both say we are honouring the 2016 referendum and we are leaving in March 2019.
End of debate.
He can caveat it with all sorts of similar impossible red lines to the EU deal if he wants, but the media will go wild and it won't have mattered what RoboMay has said up to then.
Not that I will be. Staff Christmas party for me.
As would every Conservative leader.
Shame you do not have a vote.
What communication did you have with Michael D. Cohen, Felix Sater and others, including foreign nationals, about Russian real estate developments during the campaign?
What odds that he lied, under penalty of perjury ?
*Except for Rams - Chiefs
I don't think May is capable of flinging the needed Hail Mary though, but Corbyn won't pick six either.
Ladbrokes odds, Trump departure year:
2018 - 34
2019 - 5
2020 - 11
2021 - 2 [this could be by losing the next presidential election, of course]
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1068168521669099520
🚨 100 Tory MPs have now indicated they will not vote for Theresa May's Brexit deal 🚨
Matthew Offord: "as the deal stands at the moment, I will vote against it"
They should put it on BBC 3 or ITV 4 for those that are interested.
Cohen will also do serious time and be disbarred but he can eventually move on.
But I'm not convinced she does. If she actually believes she's in with a chance, then this becomes foolhardy.
Conclusion: May knows it's a haily mary pass.
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1068175249689243651
So far.
(FPT)
Probably going to lose his military pension and be bankrupted even though he’s selling the family home.
I have a bit of sympathy but then I remember this.
https://youtu.be/gv6R76pHVCI
That is labour's policy right there.
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2018/11/29/how-donald-trump-appeals-to-men-secretly-insecure-about-their-manhood/
There will be lots of "I do not recall" and "to the best of my knowledge".
Much, much more possible is that Trump Jr will have lied under oath. And I think would be a big issue for the Trump Presidency. There's no way that the President can allow his son to plead guilty and go to jail, even for a few days. There's no way that he can end up in court. There's no way he can be pardoned. That's why the Trump administration has been getting increasingly frenzied and have been retweeting the image of Rosenstein, Clinton and Obama behind bars and suggesting they should be jailed for treason. (Which is pretty astonishing, when you think of it.)
The assumption in the Trump camp had been - pre-Manafort - that trials would be seen to be politically motivated and a witchhunt, and therefore that there would always be at least one juror who would choose to ignore the evidence. That assumption has now changed.
Interesting times.
The Republican Party establishment hate Trump. They see him as an electoral liability, a tarnisher of the brand, and frankly dangerous for America.
Trump will not stand down willingly. I'm not even sure he'd acknowledge losing the 2020 Presidential election.
That is not a head-to-head debate, that's a job interview for the people's commissar for tractor statistics.
If May is now scared of debating yer man Jez head on, then why in the name of ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY did she challenge him to one?
She has agreed a one on one on BBC - it is upto Corbyn to accept
Makes u think.
Listen to this then recant.
https://youtu.be/l2zk56DDjGc
If not why ?
Mueller's not that amateurish.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46387043
Edit to add: I think I'm actually completely wrong here...
May, apparently, wants a head to head debate. ITV are offering it and May's running scared.
May wanted to "sell the deal to the people". ITV are offering an audience of real people, and May's running scared.
Labour are going to say (with some justification) that she wants to go with the Brexit-horny BBC because she knows they'll soft-pedal her, and she's a coward, avoiding a head-to-head in front of real people.
And we know May *is* a coward, so I think the charge will stick.