Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
Customers as well as staff are being ripped off when restaurant owners pocket the tips given. Restaurant owners have been given years to get their houses in order on this. This is a small bit of populism that seems decent enough to me.
+1
The approach I generally take is to ask serving staff if they get all the tip. If not, get restaurants to remove ‘service charges’ from the bill and tip in cash.
I once received a bill which was a bit more than I'd mentally totted my meal to... removed the 15% service charge from a bill and didn't leave a tip. Told the manager "£8 for two small cokes, that's your tip within the bill". 'Enforced tipping' is an unwelcome US import in my opinion.
Round these parts a pint of Coke is often the around the price of a pint of beer. Which is bonkers.
Lime and Soda is much more refreshing and far cheaper!
Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
Yes I meant for the tie (Obviously impossible to win). To get a tie from dormie 5 down is as probably psychologically as good as a win though.
Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
And of course a tie would be enough to win if you already held the trophy, right?
Customers as well as staff are being ripped off when restaurant owners pocket the tips given. Restaurant owners have been given years to get their houses in order on this. This is a small bit of populism that seems decent enough to me.
+1
The approach I generally take is to ask serving staff if they get all the tip. If not, get restaurants to remove ‘service charges’ from the bill and tip in cash.
I once received a bill which was a bit more than I'd mentally totted my meal to... removed the 15% service charge from a bill and didn't leave a tip. Told the manager "£8 for two small cokes, that's your tip within the bill". 'Enforced tipping' is an unwelcome US import in my opinion.
Round these parts a pint of Coke is often the around the price of a pint of beer. Which is bonkers.
Lime and Soda is much more refreshing and far cheaper!
It was ~ 2011 in London, had never seen such cheek on a bill before.
Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
I know that. But there must be very few dormy five comebacks.
Cruise ships gratuties are a disgrace. They are added to your ship board account daily and unless you challenge it, it is taken out of your account at the end of the cruise. In addition many passengers tip their cabin staff individually.
As an example our 24 day round trip cruise from Southampton to Nova Scotia, New England and New York next September already shows our outstanding gratuities are £452. This excludes on board drinks where an additional 15% is applied
Cruise ships presumably won't be affected by British legislation as they are mostly foreign-owned (not sure about Fred Olsen).
The arrangement with cruise gratuities is, as I understand it, even if you try to tip individual members of staff (table waiter, cabin steward) they have to put it in a pool which is then shared out so the Head Waiter gets his cut and the engine room get theirs based on some formula which varies from company to company.
Some lines take the gratuity out of the equation by effectively adding it to the cruise fare (Seabourn does this). As the ships will stress, you can cancel the "suggested" gratuity and apply your own by going down to the front desk, joining the queue and sorting it out with them but a lot of people don't want the hassle.
The problem with "tipping" is part cultural - in New Zealand for example they don't tip and resent feeling they have to when they come to the UK. In the US, the tip is generally 15-20% - I assume the US minimum wage is that much lower but I do get the sense the waiting staff get to keep their individual tips.
Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
I know that. But there must be very few dormy five comebacks.
Yes and that is why the result yesterday was obvious before it was obvious if that makes sense
Customers as well as staff are being ripped off when restaurant owners pocket the tips given. Restaurant owners have been given years to get their houses in order on this. This is a small bit of populism that seems decent enough to me.
+1
The approach I generally take is to ask serving staff if they get all the tip. If not, get restaurants to remove ‘service charges’ from the bill and tip in cash.
I once received a bill which was a bit more than I'd mentally totted my meal to... removed the 15% service charge from a bill and didn't leave a tip. Told the manager "£8 for two small cokes, that's your tip within the bill". 'Enforced tipping' is an unwelcome US import in my opinion.
Round these parts a pint of Coke is often the around the price of a pint of beer. Which is bonkers.
Lime and Soda is much more refreshing and far cheaper!
It was ~ 2011 in London, had never seen such cheek on a bill before.
I can well imagine.
Was in my old favourite Uni haunt last week, the Kings Arms; some chap ordered a pint of fizzy lager and it was over a fiver. Staggering....
Customers as well as staff are being ripped off when restaurant owners pocket the tips given. Restaurant owners have been given years to get their houses in order on this. This is a small bit of populism that seems decent enough to me.
+1
The approach I generally take is to ask serving staff if they get all the tip. If not, get restaurants to remove ‘service charges’ from the bill and tip in cash.
As viewers of Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares USA will know, that is not foolproof since management is left to divide cash tips between the staff, or not.
Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
And of course a tie would be enough to win if you already held the trophy, right?
Customers as well as staff are being ripped off when restaurant owners pocket the tips given. Restaurant owners have been given years to get their houses in order on this. This is a small bit of populism that seems decent enough to me.
+1
The approach I generally take is to ask serving staff if they get all the tip. If not, get restaurants to remove ‘service charges’ from the bill and tip in cash.
As viewers of Gordon Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares USA will know, that is not foolproof since management is left to divide cash tips between the staff, or not.
Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
I know that. But there must be very few dormy five comebacks.
Yes and that is why the result yesterday was obvious before it was obvious if that makes sense
I may be wrong but I think that the only 2 who got ahead and then lost were McIlroy and the American who played the last game (in pretty impossible circumstances, it has to be said).
A list of vacuous political cliches which no one could possibly disagree with because they are entirely devoid of meaning. Sums up May very well.
And ordered for layout reasons rather than importance e.g. 'more homes' is last, as it only has two words and so the list can end in a nice triangle pattern.
Apparently, McVey has announced a deal with Citizens Advice to provide support and advice on UC.
Aren't CA doing this everyday already for thousands of people?
Try claiming UB/ESA My wife has been very ill with sepsis and an abscess on her spinal chord. You have (ring up wait ages to get thro get cut off etc etc wetc, get sent a long form to fill in and then make an appt to see a "work coach" that lasts for an hour. She cannot cope with that. She is on daily IV antibiotics that drains her strength. The whole system stinks . Its designed to stop people claiming, and I hate to say it, that's what Corbyn has been saying.
Customers as well as staff are being ripped off when restaurant owners pocket the tips given. Restaurant owners have been given years to get their houses in order on this. This is a small bit of populism that seems decent enough to me.
+1
The approach I generally take is to ask serving staff if they get all the tip. If not, get restaurants to remove ‘service charges’ from the bill and tip in cash.
I once received a bill which was a bit more than I'd mentally totted my meal to... removed the 15% service charge from a bill and didn't leave a tip. Told the manager "£8 for two small cokes, that's your tip within the bill". 'Enforced tipping' is an unwelcome US import in my opinion.
Round these parts a pint of Coke is often the around the price of a pint of beer. Which is bonkers.
Lime and Soda is much more refreshing and far cheaper!
With the sugar tax a pint of Coke can cost wholesale now around the price of a pint of beer. Which is bonkers.
A list of vacuous political cliches which no one could possibly disagree with because they are entirely devoid of meaning. Sums up May very well.
And ordered for layout reasons rather than importance e.g. 'more homes' is last, as it only has two words and so the list can end in a nice triangle pattern.
A trick missed though. "Apple Pie" has one less letter than "More Homes" and could easily have been fitted on the end.
Apparently, McVey has announced a deal with Citizens Advice to provide support and advice on UC.
Aren't CA doing this everyday already for thousands of people?
Try claiming UB/ESA My wife has been very ill with sepsis and an abscess on her spinal chord. You have (ring up wait ages to get thro get cut off etc etc wetc, get sent a long form to fill in and then make an appt to see a "work coach" that lasts for an hour. She cannot cope with that. She is on daily IV antibiotics that drains her strength. The whole system stinks . Its designed to stop people claiming, and I hate to say it, that's what Corbyn has been saying.
You have my sympathies. But as the government is committed to "Tackling injustices" no doubt this will be stopped imminently.
What a moment by Dominic when he spoke of his Jewish Father's escape from the Nazi's. Huge applause and standing ovation as he destroys Corbyn's anti semitism
Tory party conference day 1.a-Handjob says the future for the NHS is digital.b.Brandon Lewis lets this happen proving he should get back to his barra.Mr Gove's profile picture was changed to an image of Rupert Murdoch, a reference to his stint at the media tycoon’s The Times.
Pranksters also changed Mr Johnson's profile image to a pornographic picture.
It is only a matter of time before these pictures go viral.#LewisMustGo
Hammond may well be the reincarnation of the Spitting Image John Major puppet (grey, dull, uninteresting). But he isn't wrong:
"It isn’t about taking back control, it’s about fantasy world. , and they are not prepared to negotiate for a free trade agreement which includes the whole of the United Kingdom because of the impact that would have on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
We can spend our time sitting at a table, banging it and demanding something that our negotiating partners have clearly told us is not on offer, or we can try to find a way through with a solution that works for Britain and will also be acceptable to them within their red lines." (Good Morning Britain interview)
He speaks facts and practised negotiation strategy. No wonder so many Tories hate him.
"The European Union have been very clear that as they negotiate with us they have their red lines, just as we have our red lines"
Does anybody have any idea what Hammond's "red lines" are? Because that comment from Hammond seems to suggest that we have to respect the EU's red lines - and cave in on our own...
No wonder so many Tories hate him.
Lets consider the nature of red lines and walk away points. Before the referendum the EU were clear as to where their red lines are and that they were absolute. We knew from the very start that they would not give an inch of ground on the indivisibility of the four freedoms.
Yet despite that we set our entire strategy including our red lines over the notion that the four freedoms can be carved up. After 18 months we finally wake up to the fact that we were wrong from the start, the dummy comes out, and we blame them for not caving in.
Here today no deal is possible without movement. And the EU aren't moving from a position they set out before we voted. And even if we stuck to our red lines we don't solve the NI problem...
Incompetent negotiators. Believers of faith over facts presented by their patrons in industry. Uncaring about the status of the Union. Today's Conservative and Unionist Party is a parody of its former self.
Sky have been promoting their idea of an independent commission to mandate GE election debates and promote it at every opportunity. Today after weeks of hammering it they have reached 12,000 signatures and are pleading for it to get to 100,000
Either they do not have many viewers or maybe more likely the public have more important things to do
This has been Adam Boulton’s hobby horse for years. He wants election campaigns to be run by and for the media rather than those actually up for election, and sees himself in a starring role. He also wants a big Sky “Exclusive” to get a captive audience for his channel which usually has a statistical zero audience share.
There is no serious way in which Europe can defend itself without the British military and security services. Further, it also needs the liquidity and financial services of the city of London to prosper.
They get the security and military cooperation through NATO so Brexit is largely irrelevant in that context.
Although I do think that one of the consequences of Brexit will be a rapid expansion and maturation of the EU Military Service.
The EU certainly have the option of rapidly investing in and developing an EU military of note over a 10-15 year period, as well as building up Frankfurt.
So far I see precious little appetite or willingness to do it.
Osborne contributed greatly to politics’ slide into the JCR. His strategy of punishing the young to buy the votes of the old has done huge, long-term, perhaps irreparable, damage to the Tories.
The Tories have not won under 30s since 1983, it is the 40 to 50s they need to win back
The people who were under 30 in 1983 are now late fifties, early sixties. The very people Labour still can't get any traction with. The extraordinary unpopularity of the Tories with young people right now might well turn out to be a major factor in politics for years to come.
Only if it turns into a cohort effect. Historically, the young have been comparatively anti-Tory, migrating Tory-wards as they age, until the old are comparatively pro-Tory. The effect today at the ends of the scales seems unparalleled, however, requiring a greater rate of migration as people age than ever before.
The cause has seemed to be that people tend to become more conservative/anti-change as they age, increase in socio-economic status, become home-owners with more invested in the current system, and so on. Some social outlooks do seem to remain constant as people age, though - 'cohort effects' (attitude to homosexuality is one such).
The Conservatives have historically done well with bending to cohort effect changes (pushing through same-sex marriage is one example, a hell of a migration from their Section 28 days), while sustaining the effects that gave them the ageing bonus.
To retain that, they're definitely going to need to resolve the housing issue amongst the millennial generation (without losing their current "have" voters in chasing the "have nots") and deal with generational pension disparity. If the current 30-somethings end up without that stake in the system, that blunts the rate of migration with ageing. They'll also need to have to identify and bend to cohort effects, and Brexit might well be one of them - they have to make sure Brexit's a success in any case, because they'll carry the can for it (like Black Monday under Major's Government, or the GFC under the Labour Government) and if it is a cohort effect, they'll be needing to sell it to a potentially less-than-sympathetic audience in those age brackets.
The Tories really can't afford slow-downs in the ageing migration-towards-Tory rate - they need it accelerated.
Cruise ships gratuties are a disgrace. They are added to your ship board account daily and unless you challenge it, it is taken out of your account at the end of the cruise. In addition many passengers tip their cabin staff individually.
As an example our 24 day round trip cruise from Southampton to Nova Scotia, New England and New York next September already shows our outstanding gratuities are £452. This excludes on board drinks where an additional 15% is applied
Cruise ships presumably won't be affected by British legislation as they are mostly foreign-owned (not sure about Fred Olsen).
The arrangement with cruise gratuities is, as I understand it, even if you try to tip individual members of staff (table waiter, cabin steward) they have to put it in a pool which is then shared out so the Head Waiter gets his cut and the engine room get theirs based on some formula which varies from company to company.
Some lines take the gratuity out of the equation by effectively adding it to the cruise fare (Seabourn does this). As the ships will stress, you can cancel the "suggested" gratuity and apply your own by going down to the front desk, joining the queue and sorting it out with them but a lot of people don't want the hassle.
The problem with "tipping" is part cultural - in New Zealand for example they don't tip and resent feeling they have to when they come to the UK. In the US, the tip is generally 15-20% - I assume the US minimum wage is that much lower but I do get the sense the waiting staff get to keep their individual tips.
Neither Kiwis nor Aussies tip, which makes them incredibly unpopular in the Good Ol’ USofA.
On my first time in Aus I had a tip refused by an Aussie taxi drive...... I get a fair days pay for a fair days work, mate,
Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
And of course a tie would be enough to win if you already held the trophy, right?
How is this relevant in the discussion of scoring in a single match? You are referring to the teams' overall scores.
Customers as well as staff are being ripped off when restaurant owners pocket the tips given. Restaurant owners have been given years to get their houses in order on this. This is a small bit of populism that seems decent enough to me.
+1
The approach I generally take is to ask serving staff if they get all the tip. If not, get restaurants to remove ‘service charges’ from the bill and tip in cash.
I once received a bill which was a bit more than I'd mentally totted my meal to... removed the 15% service charge from a bill and didn't leave a tip. Told the manager "£8 for two small cokes, that's your tip within the bill". 'Enforced tipping' is an unwelcome US import in my opinion.
Round these parts a pint of Coke is often the around the price of a pint of beer. Which is bonkers.
Lime and Soda is much more refreshing and far cheaper!
It was ~ 2011 in London, had never seen such cheek on a bill before.
I can well imagine.
Was in my old favourite Uni haunt last week, the Kings Arms; some chap ordered a pint of fizzy lager and it was over a fiver. Staggering....
My son has just started at Dundee uni. He’s only paying £1.90 a pint on nights out. That compares to £5 a pint at home in Edinburgh. Result!
A list of vacuous political cliches which no one could possibly disagree with because they are entirely devoid of meaning. Sums up May very well.
Hold on. Vacuous they might be but you can't on the one hand note that no one pays any attention to politics, still less the details on this policy or that, and on the other hand criticise a party which tries to lay out in bite size chunks what it wants to achieve for the broadest reach. We're not all Laura Kuenssberg here.
And remember that fantastic, sophisticated, hugely successful advertising copy for one of the most successful products of our time:
Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
And of course a tie would be enough to win if you already held the trophy, right?
How is this relevant in the discussion of scoring in a single match? You are referring to the teams' overall scores.
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
My son has just started at Dundee uni. He’s only paying £1.90 a pint on nights out. That compares to £5 a pint at home in Edinburgh. Result!
I'm reminded it is a good number of years since I started at University - more than 35, fewer than 40. I remember cider in the student bar at 35p or three pints for a quid.
I loved being a student - wasn't sure I would but I did.
Someone (@Pulpstar?) asked yesterday if anyone has ever come back from dormy 5 down in the Ryder Cup.
When I was a kid I got into golf just as the 1991 Ryder Cup was on. It was a great Ryder Cup at Kiawah Island. Monty made his debut and came back from dormy 5-down on the final day to halve with Calcavecchia. It was all in vain as Langer missed the final putt against Hale Irwin on the last hole.
You can come back but you cannot win. A tie is the best result you could obtain in those circumstances
And of course a tie would be enough to win if you already held the trophy, right?
How is this relevant in the discussion of scoring in a single match? You are referring to the teams' overall scores.
Good point!
See what you make of my suggestion on scoring upthread. Be interested to hear your views – and those of others. I actually felt sorry for Alex Noren yesterday!
Hunt's USSR comparison was toss because it's not leaving the EU we're having difficulty with; that would be very easy. It's trying to get some of the benefits of membership from the outside.
Having said that it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong because it's aimed at the Werther's Original suckling legions of the tory membership. Wherein, I assume, it found a receptive if urine scented audience.
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
Not sure.
It is a fair point but if I was playing Tiger Woods and had a chance of beating him I would want to play out the match.
Mind you Woods abject failure was entirely predictable. He wins one competition and suddenly the US promote him to God like status when in truth he is long past it, as is Mickelson.
Yes, well, we know Hunt wasn't speaking to the Latvian ambassador, the EU or non-Conservatives like me. He was saying what his audience wanted to hear - the mark of the populist and the weak politician down the ages and oddly enough just the way his predecessor works.
The good politician tells his or her audience the truths they don't want to hear not pander to prejudices.
I voted LEAVE but in no way can or would I compare the EU to the former USSR. It's absurd - if they were like the USSR, we would be seeing French, Dutch, German and Irish armed forces massing to invade and put an end to the "London Summer".
The EU don't want us to go - I get that - but I also understand they need the negotiations to result in terms which aren't wholly disadvantageous to them (strange, that).
Customers as well as staff are being ripped off when restaurant owners pocket the tips given. Restaurant owners have been given years to get their houses in order on this. This is a small bit of populism that seems decent enough to me.
+1
The approach I generally take is to ask serving staff if they get all the tip. If not, get restaurants to remove ‘service charges’ from the bill and tip in cash.
I once received a bill which was a bit more than I'd mentally totted my meal to... removed the 15% service charge from a bill and didn't leave a tip. Told the manager "£8 for two small cokes, that's your tip within the bill". 'Enforced tipping' is an unwelcome US import in my opinion.
Round these parts a pint of Coke is often the around the price of a pint of beer. Which is bonkers.
Lime and Soda is much more refreshing and far cheaper!
It was ~ 2011 in London, had never seen such cheek on a bill before.
I can well imagine.
Was in my old favourite Uni haunt last week, the Kings Arms; some chap ordered a pint of fizzy lager and it was over a fiver. Staggering....
My son has just started at Dundee uni. He’s only paying £1.90 a pint on nights out. That compares to £5 a pint at home in Edinburgh. Result!
You’re assuming the consumption in pints stays constant, and not the budget? So instead of drinking two pints he drinks five....
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
Not sure.
It is a fair point but if I was playing Tiger Woods and had a chance of beating him I would want to play out the match.
Mind you Woods abject failure was entirely predictable. He wins one competition and suddenly the US promote him to God like status when in truth he is long past it, as is Mickelson.
Neither should have been in the US team
If you were at least 1UP against Tiger you would have beaten him, that's my point. As long as you were leading at the cut-off point (once one team surpasses 14.5pts) the records will show you as having beaten him.
P.S. Woods was poor in the Ryder Cup but I'm not sure he is past it as you say. He is never good in the Ryder Cup. I do think he (in stroke play tournaments) seems to have improved in recent months, and might yet win another major.
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
It would totally screw up the betting positions of many people, especially those on the spreads.
As I understand it a few people bet the odd penny on the golf.
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
It would totally screw up the betting positions of many people, especially those on the spreads.
As I understand it a few people bet the odd penny on the golf.
It would also have denied Garcia his point and, in different circusmtanes, a golfer four-up over the weekend the chance to get a five-for (Molinari, I think, was in the clubhouse this time round)
Yes, well, we know Hunt wasn't speaking to the Latvian ambassador, the EU or non-Conservatives like me. He was saying what his audience wanted to hear - the mark of the populist and the weak politician down the ages and oddly enough just the way his predecessor works.
The good politician tells his or her audience the truths they don't want to hear not pander to prejudices.
I voted LEAVE but in no way can or would I compare the EU to the former USSR. It's absurd - if they were like the USSR, we would be seeing French, Dutch, German and Irish armed forces massing to invade and put an end to the "London Summer".
The EU don't want us to go - I get that - but I also understand they need the negotiations to result in terms which aren't wholly disadvantageous to them (strange, that).
Hear hear. Good politicians offer challenge and leadership. The Tories have not really had a leader who dared to challenge the consensus since Thatcher.
Hunt's prison point was fine, his comparison to the USSR inadvisable
The parallel drawn with a country completely unwilling to let its citizens choose to leave was apt. If you object to the Soviet Union and its satellites being chosen to illustrate the point, what other country or bloc of countries would you have cited instead?
As for FCO mandarins, they are responsible for leading us down the garden path and straining every sinew to keep us there since.
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
Not sure.
It is a fair point but if I was playing Tiger Woods and had a chance of beating him I would want to play out the match.
Mind you Woods abject failure was entirely predictable. He wins one competition and suddenly the US promote him to God like status when in truth he is long past it, as is Mickelson.
Neither should have been in the US team
By one championship you mean the Tour Championship? Woods is still a class act. Mickelson, I agree, should not have been picked - though that would have been a tough call for Furyk to make as he was 10th on the points list.
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
Not sure.
It is a fair point but if I was playing Tiger Woods and had a chance of beating him I would want to play out the match.
Mind you Woods abject failure was entirely predictable. He wins one competition and suddenly the US promote him to God like status when in truth he is long past it, as is Mickelson.
Neither should have been in the US team
If you were at least 1UP against Tiger you would have beaten him, that's my point. As long as you were leading at the cut-off point (once one team surpasses 14.5pts) the records will show you as having beaten him.
P.S. Woods was poor in the Ryder Cup but I'm not sure he is past it as you say. He is never good in the Ryder Cup. I do think he (in stroke play tournaments) seems to have improved in recent months, and might yet win another major.
As a former 9 handicap golfer, past captain and past president of a golf club and having played competitive golf for over 50 years before my ostearthritis stopped my playing days I can say that being 1 up with still holes to play would not have beaten him and would not have satisfied me
Hunt's prison point was fine, his comparison to the USSR inadvisable
The parallel drawn with a country completely unwilling to let its citizens choose to leave was apt. If you object to the Soviet Union and its satellites being chosen to illustrate the point, what other country or bloc of countries would you have cited instead?
As for FCO mandarins, they are responsible for leading us down the garden path and straining every sinew to keep us there since.
I wouldn't. Prison was enough of an analogy.
The Polish are right, the EU hasn't brought tens of thousands of deaths or forty years of oppression to the UK.
Morning all. A few thoughts on some of the topics discussed upthread:
1. The proposal to ensure that restaurant tips go to the staff is a good one. Contrary to what some people have said, this is not some kind of socialist interference in business, it's a very simple case of honesty: the consumer has a reasonable expectation that tips are tips.
2. Contrary to the cheap jibes about public schools, it is undeniable that Boris is a very talented and clever man. He's just not suited to high office or any role involving a serious grasp of detail, and should direct his considerable talents elsewhere.
3. I really don't see what the objection to Jeremy Hunt's USSR comments were. He was simply making the uncontroversial point that the EU shouldn't have to use threats to ensure countries want to remain members, using the analogy of the USSR using force to ensure countries remained part of its bloc and people from emigrating if they wanted to.
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
Not sure.
It is a fair point but if I was playing Tiger Woods and had a chance of beating him I would want to play out the match.
Mind you Woods abject failure was entirely predictable. He wins one competition and suddenly the US promote him to God like status when in truth he is long past it, as is Mickelson.
Neither should have been in the US team
By one championship you mean the Tour Championship? Woods is still a class act. Mickelson, I agree, should not have been picked - though that would have been a tough call for Furyk to make as he was 10th on the points list.
Yes - Woods was humilitated this week. He was a shadow of his former self and tempus fugit for him
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
It would totally screw up the betting positions of many people, especially those on the spreads.
As I understand it a few people bet the odd penny on the golf.
As I say, the scores would be recorded as they stand, so wise spread bettors would have to take that into account. Playing out 90 mins when the tournament is dead is not good sport. Once an ODI cricket team has scored the winning run, the game ends. We do not ask them to continue to see how many runs they could get with the balls they notionally have remaining.
Hunt's USSR comparison was toss because it's not leaving the EU we're having difficulty with; that would be very easy. It's trying to get some of the benefits of membership from the outside.
Having said that it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong because it's aimed at the Werther's Original suckling legions of the tory membership. Wherein, I assume, it found a receptive if urine scented audience.
I should imagine the Latvians and Polish are so outraged they will be handing back the fraction of their net surplus from the EU this year that comes from the Uk.
Hammond may well be the reincarnation of the Spitting Image John Major puppet (grey, dull, uninteresting). But he isn't wrong:
"It isn’t about taking back control, it’s about fantasy world. The European Union have been very clear that as they negotiate with us they have their red lines, just as we have our red lines, and they are not prepared to negotiate for a free trade agreement which includes the whole of the United Kingdom because of the impact that would have on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
We can spend our time sitting at a table, banging it and demanding something that our negotiating partners have clearly told us is not on offer, or we can try to find a way through with a solution that works for Britain and will also be acceptable to them within their red lines." (Good Morning Britain interview)
He speaks facts and practised negotiation strategy. No wonder so many Tories hate him.
It is because he actually understands business. Proper business that is, where you make stuff and sell it, not the Jacob Rees-Mogg variety.
Hunt's USSR comparison was toss because it's not leaving the EU we're having difficulty with; that would be very easy. It's trying to get some of the benefits of membership from the outside.
Having said that it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong because it's aimed at the Werther's Original suckling legions of the tory membership. Wherein, I assume, it found a receptive if urine scented audience.
He has demeaned himself with such a ludicrous comparison.
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
It would totally screw up the betting positions of many people, especially those on the spreads.
As I understand it a few people bet the odd penny on the golf.
It would also have denied Garcia his point and, in different circusmtanes, a golfer four-up over the weekend the chance to get a five-for (Molinari, I think, was in the clubhouse this time round)
Was Sergio up when we passed the winning line? I can’t remember exactly. However if he was up he would still have won his point. That is, erm, my point.
Morning all. A few thoughts on some of the topics discussed upthread:
1. The proposal to ensure that restaurant tips go to the staff is a good one. Contrary to what some people have said, this is not some kind of socialist interference in business, it's a very simple case of honesty: the consumer has a reasonable expectation that tips are tips.
2. Contrary to the cheap jibes about public schools, it is undeniable that Boris is a very talented and clever man. He's just not suited to high office or any role involving a serious grasp of detail, and should direct his considerable talents elsewhere.
3. I really don't see what the objection to Jeremy Hunt's USSR comments were. He was simply making the uncontroversial point that the EU shouldn't have to use threats to ensure countries want to remain members, using the analogy of the USSR using force to ensure countries remained part of its bloc and people from emigrating if they wanted to.
The public schools do a brilliant job for their clients.
If Johnson were a clever man he would know that he is not suited to high office. He undoubtedly has talent, though.
Europe effectively won the Ryder cup in the foursomes I think, probably the format where 'team spirit' is the most important the whole event. You're alternating shots so need to be mentally comfortable with your partner..
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
Not sure.
It is a fair point but if I was playing Tiger Woods and had a chance of beating him I would want to play out the match.
Mind you Woods abject failure was entirely predictable. He wins one competition and suddenly the US promote him to God like status when in truth he is long past it, as is Mickelson.
Neither should have been in the US team
If you were at least 1UP against Tiger you would have beaten him, that's my point. As long as you were leading at the cut-off point (once one team surpasses 14.5pts) the records will show you as having beaten him.
P.S. Woods was poor in the Ryder Cup but I'm not sure he is past it as you say. He is never good in the Ryder Cup. I do think he (in stroke play tournaments) seems to have improved in recent months, and might yet win another major.
As a former 9 handicap golfer, past captain and past president of a golf club and having played competitive golf for over 50 years before my ostearthritis stopped my playing days I can say that being 1 up with still holes to play would not have beaten him and would not have satisfied me
Well that’s your opinion but the Ryder Cup is a brilliant *team* event. It does however have a structural flaw insofar as it continues after it has already ended!
Having the EU and EU politicians attack Hunt may rather help his future leadership prospects.
Indeed.
I thought his comments were excellent and a further sign he’s Prime Minister in waiting.
Nah it was a clumsy misstep. Cringe factor: high. And he knows it. And you know it.
Not going to harm him in any way whatsoever in his bid to become PM, of course.
My betting position may have influenced my post.
I realised that. I am also green on him (and Rudd, and Boles for that matter). But it was still a dickish thing for him to say. @Richard_Nabavi #3 no, no thrice no. To compare the EU with the USSR was analogous to Ken's concentration camp guard jibe at the journo.
Customers as well as staff are being ripped off when restaurant owners pocket the tips given. Restaurant owners have been given years to get their houses in order on this. This is a small bit of populism that seems decent enough to me.
+1
The approach I generally take is to ask serving staff if they get all the tip. If not, get restaurants to remove ‘service charges’ from the bill and tip in cash.
I once received a bill which was a bit more than I'd mentally totted my meal to... removed the 15% service charge from a bill and didn't leave a tip. Told the manager "£8 for two small cokes, that's your tip within the bill". 'Enforced tipping' is an unwelcome US import in my opinion.
Round these parts a pint of Coke is often the around the price of a pint of beer. Which is bonkers.
Lime and Soda is much more refreshing and far cheaper!
It was ~ 2011 in London, had never seen such cheek on a bill before.
I can well imagine.
Was in my old favourite Uni haunt last week, the Kings Arms; some chap ordered a pint of fizzy lager and it was over a fiver. Staggering....
My son has just started at Dundee uni. He’s only paying £1.90 a pint on nights out. That compares to £5 a pint at home in Edinburgh. Result!
I presume that this is at the Student Union? I don't think you will find many pubs in the town offering beer at those prices. I certainly don't.
Hunt's prison point was fine, his comparison to the USSR inadvisable
His prison point was facile.
If he wanted to make a point about the integrity of the United Kingdom, about its importance to the UK, in the same way that the integrity of the SM is important to the EU then he should have said just that. Not ruined a good point with nonsense about prisons and the Soviet Union.
There is nothing wrong, in principle, with leaving the EU provided the country is willing to live with the consequences of so doing.
What is wrong is leaving but expecting there to be no consequences and then blaming others for the fact that the country's position will be different outside an organisation to what it was inside.
Even if you assume the absolute worst about the EU's approach to a departing member, all of this was pretty much foreseeable - or ought to have been - by those keenest on Brexit. And ought to have been prepared for. The EU's approach may be utterly regrettable but it was not - and is not - in our power to change. But the UK - if it was serious about Brexit - should have been prepared for the consequences of its decision, both good and ill. It is utterly childish to expect to make decisions and then moan about the consequences.
The Brexiteers in government have been utterly childish throughout this process, are continuing to be so and it is a shame that Hunt, who appeared to be vaguely sane and seemed to be doing good things on his recent trip to the Far East, is joining them.
Hammond may well be the reincarnation of the Spitting Image John Major puppet (grey, dull, uninteresting). But he isn't wrong:
"It isn’t about taking back control, it’s about fantasy world. The European Union have been very clear that as they negotiate with us they have their red lines, just as we have our red lines, and they are not prepared to negotiate for a free trade agreement which includes the whole of the United Kingdom because of the impact that would have on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
We can spend our time sitting at a table, banging it and demanding something that our negotiating partners have clearly told us is not on offer, or we can try to find a way through with a solution that works for Britain and will also be acceptable to them within their red lines." (Good Morning Britain interview)
He speaks facts and practised negotiation strategy. No wonder so many Tories hate him.
It is because he actually understands business. Proper business that is, where you make stuff and sell it, not the Jacob Rees-Mogg variety.
Indeed so. Hammond is a sensible, measured and sane. Not an ideal character profile for today’s Loony Tune main parties.
Hammond may well be the reincarnation of the Spitting Image John Major puppet (grey, dull, uninteresting). But he isn't wrong:
"It isn’t about taking back control, it’s about fantasy world. The European Union have been very clear that as they negotiate with us they have their red lines, just as we have our red lines, and they are not prepared to negotiate for a free trade agreement which includes the whole of the United Kingdom because of the impact that would have on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
We can spend our time sitting at a table, banging it and demanding something that our negotiating partners have clearly told us is not on offer, or we can try to find a way through with a solution that works for Britain and will also be acceptable to them within their red lines." (Good Morning Britain interview)
He speaks facts and practised negotiation strategy. No wonder so many Tories hate him.
It is because he actually understands business. Proper business that is, where you make stuff and sell it, not the Jacob Rees-Mogg variety.
Hammond is a sensible, measured and sane.
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Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
Not sure.
It is a fair point but if I was playing Tiger Woods and had a chance of beating him I would want to play out the match.
Mind you Woods abject failure was entirely predictable. He wins one competition and suddenly the US promote him to God like status when in truth he is long past it, as is Mickelson.
Neither should have been in the US team
If you were at least 1UP against Tiger you would have beaten him, that's my point. As long as you were leading at the cut-off point (once one team surpasses 14.5pts) the records will show you as having beaten him.
P.S. Woods was poor in the Ryder Cup but I'm not sure he is past it as you say. He is never good in the Ryder Cup. I do think he (in stroke play tournaments) seems to have improved in recent months, and might yet win another major.
As a former 9 handicap golfer, past captain and past president of a golf club and having played competitive golf for over 50 years before my ostearthritis stopped my playing days I can say that being 1 up with still holes to play would not have beaten him and would not have satisfied me
Well that’s your opinion but the Ryder Cup is a brilliant *team* event. It does however have a structural flaw insofar as it continues after it has already ended!
I just think that is integral to the competition. You do not get the real result by aborting it at 14.5% and letting on course scores become default
Hunt's prison point was fine, his comparison to the USSR inadvisable
The parallel drawn with a country completely unwilling to let its citizens choose to leave was apt. If you object to the Soviet Union and its satellites being chosen to illustrate the point, what other country or bloc of countries would you have cited instead?
As for FCO mandarins, they are responsible for leading us down the garden path and straining every sinew to keep us there since.
I wouldn't. Prison was enough of an analogy.
The Polish are right, the EU hasn't brought tens of thousands of deaths or forty years of oppression to the UK.
What is the world coming to if every time someone draws an analogy between A and B regarding point X, it is shot down because someone else contrives to imply that the analogy was drawn with regard to point Y and Z instead. It just closes down any rational discussion. Frankly I have better things to do than indulge you further.
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Lime and Soda is much more refreshing and far cheaper!
The arrangement with cruise gratuities is, as I understand it, even if you try to tip individual members of staff (table waiter, cabin steward) they have to put it in a pool which is then shared out so the Head Waiter gets his cut and the engine room get theirs based on some formula which varies from company to company.
Some lines take the gratuity out of the equation by effectively adding it to the cruise fare (Seabourn does this). As the ships will stress, you can cancel the "suggested" gratuity and apply your own by going down to the front desk, joining the queue and sorting it out with them but a lot of people don't want the hassle.
The problem with "tipping" is part cultural - in New Zealand for example they don't tip and resent feeling they have to when they come to the UK. In the US, the tip is generally 15-20% - I assume the US minimum wage is that much lower but I do get the sense the waiting staff get to keep their individual tips.
Was in my old favourite Uni haunt last week, the Kings Arms; some chap ordered a pint of fizzy lager and it was over a fiver. Staggering....
Aren't CA doing this everyday already for thousands of people?
I’m tipping my waiter, not the others....
The whole system stinks . Its designed to stop people claiming, and I hate to say it, that's what Corbyn has been saying.
Fewer bad things.
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Pranksters also changed Mr Johnson's profile image to a pornographic picture.
It is only a matter of time before these pictures go viral.#LewisMustGo
https://twitter.com/hipsterscumbag/status/628361879732252672
Yet despite that we set our entire strategy including our red lines over the notion that the four freedoms can be carved up. After 18 months we finally wake up to the fact that we were wrong from the start, the dummy comes out, and we blame them for not caving in.
Here today no deal is possible without movement. And the EU aren't moving from a position they set out before we voted. And even if we stuck to our red lines we don't solve the NI problem...
Incompetent negotiators. Believers of faith over facts presented by their patrons in industry. Uncaring about the status of the Union. Today's Conservative and Unionist Party is a parody of its former self.
So far I see precious little appetite or willingness to do it.
Historically, the young have been comparatively anti-Tory, migrating Tory-wards as they age, until the old are comparatively pro-Tory.
The effect today at the ends of the scales seems unparalleled, however, requiring a greater rate of migration as people age than ever before.
The cause has seemed to be that people tend to become more conservative/anti-change as they age, increase in socio-economic status, become home-owners with more invested in the current system, and so on. Some social outlooks do seem to remain constant as people age, though - 'cohort effects' (attitude to homosexuality is one such).
The Conservatives have historically done well with bending to cohort effect changes (pushing through same-sex marriage is one example, a hell of a migration from their Section 28 days), while sustaining the effects that gave them the ageing bonus.
To retain that, they're definitely going to need to resolve the housing issue amongst the millennial generation (without losing their current "have" voters in chasing the "have nots") and deal with generational pension disparity. If the current 30-somethings end up without that stake in the system, that blunts the rate of migration with ageing. They'll also need to have to identify and bend to cohort effects, and Brexit might well be one of them - they have to make sure Brexit's a success in any case, because they'll carry the can for it (like Black Monday under Major's Government, or the GFC under the Labour Government) and if it is a cohort effect, they'll be needing to sell it to a potentially less-than-sympathetic audience in those age brackets.
The Tories really can't afford slow-downs in the ageing migration-towards-Tory rate - they need it accelerated.
"Endless tinkering"
"Nice management"
"Benign guardianship"
"Lefty Bollocks"
On my first time in Aus I had a tip refused by an Aussie taxi drive...... I get a fair days pay for a fair days work, mate,
And remember that fantastic, sophisticated, hugely successful advertising copy for one of the most successful products of our time:
"Drink Coke".
Once a team has passed the winning margin, all other holes remaining across the slate should be declared A/S. This would end the fiasco of players having to play out dead rubbers when their mates are already out on the piss and the crowds are already celebrating.
I guess you could play out any holes actually in play, then any remaining holes are effectively wiped off. So if Bill is 2UP on Ben thru 14 then Bill is declared to have won 2&1 (as he would have effectively got to Hole 17 and his notional lead would thereby have been unassailable).
I loved being a student - wasn't sure I would but I did.
Having said that it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong because it's aimed at the Werther's Original suckling legions of the tory membership. Wherein, I assume, it found a receptive if urine scented audience.
It is a fair point but if I was playing Tiger Woods and had a chance of beating him I would want to play out the match.
Mind you Woods abject failure was entirely predictable. He wins one competition and suddenly the US promote him to God like status when in truth he is long past it, as is Mickelson.
Neither should have been in the US team
(I ask out of curiosity, rather than to defend Hunt.)
The good politician tells his or her audience the truths they don't want to hear not pander to prejudices.
I voted LEAVE but in no way can or would I compare the EU to the former USSR. It's absurd - if they were like the USSR, we would be seeing French, Dutch, German and Irish armed forces massing to invade and put an end to the "London Summer".
The EU don't want us to go - I get that - but I also understand they need the negotiations to result in terms which aren't wholly disadvantageous to them (strange, that).
P.S. Woods was poor in the Ryder Cup but I'm not sure he is past it as you say. He is never good in the Ryder Cup. I do think he (in stroke play tournaments) seems to have improved in recent months, and might yet win another major.
As I understand it a few people bet the odd penny on the golf.
I thought his comments were excellent and a further sign he’s Prime Minister in waiting.
As for FCO mandarins, they are responsible for leading us down the garden path and straining every sinew to keep us there since.
The Polish are right, the EU hasn't brought tens of thousands of deaths or forty years of oppression to the UK.
Not going to harm him in any way whatsoever in his bid to become PM, of course.
1. The proposal to ensure that restaurant tips go to the staff is a good one. Contrary to what some people have said, this is not some kind of socialist interference in business, it's a very simple case of honesty: the consumer has a reasonable expectation that tips are tips.
2. Contrary to the cheap jibes about public schools, it is undeniable that Boris is a very talented and clever man. He's just not suited to high office or any role involving a serious grasp of detail, and should direct his considerable talents elsewhere.
3. I really don't see what the objection to Jeremy Hunt's USSR comments were. He was simply making the uncontroversial point that the EU shouldn't have to use threats to ensure countries want to remain members, using the analogy of the USSR using force to ensure countries remained part of its bloc and people from emigrating if they wanted to.
Any minute now..
https://twitter.com/ottocrat/status/1046711386884239361
I tipped him at 100/1 and 66/1.
Understand you might not remember as I seldom mention it.
If Johnson were a clever man he would know that he is not suited to high office. He undoubtedly has talent, though.
We will take seven years to leave, which is much longer than the average prison stay.
If he wanted to make a point about the integrity of the United Kingdom, about its importance to the UK, in the same way that the integrity of the SM is important to the EU then he should have said just that. Not ruined a good point with nonsense about prisons and the Soviet Union.
There is nothing wrong, in principle, with leaving the EU provided the country is willing to live with the consequences of so doing.
What is wrong is leaving but expecting there to be no consequences and then blaming others for the fact that the country's position will be different outside an organisation to what it was inside.
Even if you assume the absolute worst about the EU's approach to a departing member, all of this was pretty much foreseeable - or ought to have been - by those keenest on Brexit. And ought to have been prepared for. The EU's approach may be utterly regrettable but it was not - and is not - in our power to change. But the UK - if it was serious about Brexit - should have been prepared for the consequences of its decision, both good and ill. It is utterly childish to expect to make decisions and then moan about the consequences.
The Brexiteers in government have been utterly childish throughout this process, are continuing to be so and it is a shame that Hunt, who appeared to be vaguely sane and seemed to be doing good things on his recent trip to the Far East, is joining them.
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