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edited June 2018 in General

imagepoliticalbetting.com » Blog Archive » BoJo – the betting favourite with a record of disappointing punters

In what became the Conservative Leadership 2016, Boris Johnson was not, as we know, the winning outcome. Indeed he did not put his name forward as a candidate. The highest Betfair Exchange odds were 55% on the day after the Brexit referendum.

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  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    First.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    Not another thread on yesterday’s man.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,860
    Game on!
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    FPT:
    Charles said:

    Nigelb said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Having observed SCOTUS quite closely in my little area for the last 15 years, the role that the justice’s clerks play in selecting and then deciding cases should not be underestimated.

    Not to mention that all those in the running for the current nomination have clerked for on or other of the conservative justices.

    The Supreme Court has been, almost since its inception, a political institution, and although it is habit for justices to pay lip service to judicial impartiality, the only decisions which are not nakedly political in controversial cases are those where there is not a clear cut majority.

    That Trump might be able to cement a conservative majority in the court, potentially for decades, having been elected on a minority of the popular vote, and confirmed by a Republican Senate which represents an even smaller percentage of the electorate, is going to be subject of furious controversy for the foreseeable future.
    Only among the losers, buddy. The winners won’t care.
    Republicans shouldn’t complain about a polarised political culture then, like with the Sanders incident, for instance.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    edited June 2018
    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,656
    edited June 2018
    With that goal from Junuzaj and that one from Di Maria it is proving a good WC for ex Man U players. Falcao too.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    Getting heated here.
  • TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,454
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    ... England?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    Belgium, England (hopefully), Spain, Portugal, Uruguay, Switzerland, Japan.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    Not many are, with Brazil I still think it’s up in the air. Given they got beat 7-1 last time, Brazil more than anyone will be hoping that this team is better than the one in 2014.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,036
    Has Boris been eating too many blackcurrents? He looks like an Umpa Lumpa.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    edited June 2018
    tlg86 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    Belgium, England (hopefully), Spain, Portugal, Uruguay, Switzerland, Japan.
    I don’t think Portugal are, nor Belgium. Ronaldo is past his prime (albeit still brilliant) and Portugal are totally a one man team. Belgium are weaker in defence with the likes of kompany past it.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    England? Spain? both teams went out in the group stage.

    Cracking Di Maria goal! as good as his goal that I witnessed in the 5:3 LCFC vs MUFC.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    The_Apocalypse said:

    FPT:

    Charles said:

    Nigelb said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Having observed SCOTUS quite closely in my little area for the last 15 years, the role that the justice’s clerks play in selecting and then deciding cases should not be underestimated.

    Not to mention that all those in the running for the current nomination have clerked for on or other of the conservative justices.

    The Supreme Court has been, almost since its inception, a political institution, and although it is habit for justices to pay lip service to judicial impartiality, the only decisions which are not nakedly political in controversial cases are those where there is not a clear cut majority.

    That Trump might be able to cement a conservative majority in the court, potentially for decades, having been elected on a minority of the popular vote, and confirmed by a Republican Senate which represents an even smaller percentage of the electorate, is going to be subject of furious controversy for the foreseeable future.
    Only among the losers, buddy. The winners won’t care.
    Republicans shouldn’t complain about a polarised political culture then, like with the Sanders incident, for instance.
    I don’t believe in telling people what they should or shouldn’t complain about.

    I was just observing that it’s usually the losers that complain
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    Foxy said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    England? Spain? both teams went out in the group stage.

    Cracking Di Maria goal! as good as his goal that I witnessed in the 5:3 LCFC vs MUFC.
    England are better organized that's for certain and playing a system to maximize our limited ability (which is massive credit to Southgate and the players). I don't known if the squad is as talented though.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    tlg86 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    Belgium, England (hopefully), Spain, Portugal, Uruguay, Switzerland, Japan.
    I don’t think Portugal are, nor Belgium. Ronaldo is past his prime (albeit still brilliant) and Portugal are totally a one man team. Belgium are weaker in defence with the likes of kompany past it.
    Belgium have a decent manager this time.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    The_Apocalypse said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    Not many are, with Brazil I still think it’s up in the air. Given they got beat 7-1 last time, Brazil more than anyone will be hoping that this team is better than the one in 2014.
    Brazil in 2014 had Fred upfront! They had no strikers other than neymar that got injured. They now have neymar, cortinho, William and forminho all playing well. They defence is rubbish though.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Charles said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    FPT:

    Charles said:

    Nigelb said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Having observed SCOTUS quite closely in my little area for the last 15 years, the role that the justice’s clerks play in selecting and then deciding cases should not be underestimated.

    Not to mention that all those in the running for the current nomination have clerked for on or other of the conservative justices.

    The Supreme Court has been, almost since its inception, a political institution, and although it is habit for justices to pay lip service to judicial impartiality, the only decisions which are not nakedly political in controversial cases are those where there is not a clear cut majority.

    That Trump might be able to cement a conservative majority in the court, potentially for decades, having been elected on a minority of the popular vote, and confirmed by a Republican Senate which represents an even smaller percentage of the electorate, is going to be subject of furious controversy for the foreseeable future.
    Only among the losers, buddy. The winners won’t care.
    Republicans shouldn’t complain about a polarised political culture then, like with the Sanders incident, for instance.
    I don’t believe in telling people what they should or shouldn’t complain about.

    I was just observing that it’s usually the losers that complain
    And I was just observing how Republicans expect to do things that are controversial to ‘only the losers’ but then get upset when they face any blowback from that.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    tlg86 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    tlg86 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    Belgium, England (hopefully), Spain, Portugal, Uruguay, Switzerland, Japan.
    I don’t think Portugal are, nor Belgium. Ronaldo is past his prime (albeit still brilliant) and Portugal are totally a one man team. Belgium are weaker in defence with the likes of kompany past it.
    Belgium have a decent manager this time.
    I think like England the manager is doing better with what they have.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,491
    https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1013060521287995392
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    The BBC pundits for this game would make a decent strikeforce.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    Totally OT...are any nations better than their 2014 versions? Brazil? France? And...even if they are marginally better would have have stood a chance against Germany etc of 4 years ago?

    Not many are, with Brazil I still think it’s up in the air. Given they got beat 7-1 last time, Brazil more than anyone will be hoping that this team is better than the one in 2014.
    Brazil in 2014 had Fred upfront! They had no strikers other than neymar that got injured. They now have neymar, cortinho, William and forminho all playing well. They defence is rubbish though.
    I forgot that they had Fred upfront. Neymar has been a bit underwhelming so far at this WC though.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    Fazio for Rojo. Not sure if that's an improvement.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,265
    FPT: Mr. B, Grosjean's generally a very good driver. He's had bad luck this year and made the odd cock up too. His qualifying performance was very impressive.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,656
    tlg86 said:

    Fazio for Rojo. Not sure if that's an improvement.

    They are fortunate to have the option. I really don't get why the foul on Mbappe was not a straight red.

    Wow, Argentina takes the lead.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    Well that turned around pretty quickly
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    Football is a stupid game.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,979
    At the moment the current favourite to succeed May as Tory leader and PM is Gove. However Boris has more charisma than Gove and polls better with the public while having few ideological differences with him so do not count him out yet. Boris as PM with Gove as Chancellor still seems to me more likely than Gove as PM
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,979
    Argentina score to lead France 2-1
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    Maybe I won't be watching France...
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,860
    What have you got, France?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    Foxy said:

    Maybe I won't be watching France...

    You won't be watching Argentina, that's for sure.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,265
    F1: Red Bull manage to remove smile from Ricciardo for only the second time on record:
    https://twitter.com/alstewitn/status/1013066284572008449
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    So is Michael Gove moving onto telephone directories next?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    tlg86 said:

    Foxy said:

    Maybe I won't be watching France...

    You won't be watching Argentina, that's for sure.
    I do have an Argentina flag that I used at the Rugby world cup. (also a Falklands one too!)
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    Foxy said:

    tlg86 said:

    Foxy said:

    Maybe I won't be watching France...

    You won't be watching Argentina, that's for sure.
    I do have an Argentina flag that I used at the Rugby world cup. (also a Falklands one too!)
    Alf Ramsey had it right about them. Animals.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,244
    France learning that should get two goals ahead when you are as dominant as they were.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,634
    France look rattled.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,823
    Charles said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    FPT:

    Charles said:

    Nigelb said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Having observed SCOTUS quite closely in my little area for the last 15 years, the role that the justice’s clerks play in selecting and then deciding cases should not be underestimated.

    Not to mention that all those in the running for the current nomination have clerked for on or other of the conservative justices.

    The Supreme Court has been, almost since its inception, a political institution, and although it is habit for justices to pay lip service to judicial impartiality, the only decisions which are not nakedly political in controversial cases are those where there is not a clear cut majority.

    That Trump might be able to cement a conservative majority in the court, potentially for decades, having been elected on a minority of the popular vote, and confirmed by a Republican Senate which represents an even smaller percentage of the electorate, is going to be subject of furious controversy for the foreseeable future.
    Only among the losers, buddy. The winners won’t care.
    Republicans shouldn’t complain about a polarised political culture then, like with the Sanders incident, for instance.
    I don’t believe in telling people what they should or shouldn’t complain about.

    I was just observing that it’s usually the losers that complain
    And I was merely observing that the losers at this point constitute the majority of the US electorate, buddy.

    When they next control Congress and the presidency, there will be consequences.
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    another_richard said:

    France learning that should get two goals ahead when you are as dominant as they were.

    +1.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    Nigelb said:

    Charles said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    FPT:

    Charles said:

    Nigelb said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Having observed SCOTUS quite closely in my little area for the last 15 years, the role that the justice’s clerks play in selecting and then deciding cases should not be underestimated.

    Not to mention that all those in the running for the current nomination have clerked for on or other of the conservative justices.

    The Supreme Court has been, almost since its inception, a political institution, and although it is habit for justices to pay lip service to judicial impartiality, the only decisions which are not nakedly political in controversial cases are those where there is not a clear cut majority.

    That Trump might be able to cement a conservative majority in the court, potentially for decades, having been elected on a minority of the popular vote, and confirmed by a Republican Senate which represents an even smaller percentage of the electorate, is going to be subject of furious controversy for the foreseeable future.
    Only among the losers, buddy. The winners won’t care.
    Republicans shouldn’t complain about a polarised political culture then, like with the Sanders incident, for instance.
    I don’t believe in telling people what they should or shouldn’t complain about.

    I was just observing that it’s usually the losers that complain
    And I was merely observing that the losers at this point constitute the majority of the US electorate, buddy.

    When they next control Congress and the presidency, there will be consequences.
    I don't really follow US politics that closely, but surely the Democrats should have made these old liberal justices stand down in 2015.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,979
    France equalise 2-2
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,265
    Come on, chaps, let's not argue about whose view of democratic discourse is wrong. This is meant to be a happy website.

    Not to mention it would be a great moral wrong to besmirch the grand and rare occasion of me getting lucky with an F1 bet with bickering.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,860
    OOh, game on!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,823
    edited June 2018
    Morris_Dancer said:

    F1: Red Bull manage to remove smile from Ricciardo for only the second time on record:
    https://twitter.com/alstewitn/status/1013066284572008449


    Curiously quaint to hear the C4 team apologising for his ‘language’.
    I can’t imagine more than 0.5% of the population being much offended.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,780
    Wow! This is some game
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    2-2
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    Even more amazing goal!
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,656
    MarqueeMark said:

    What have you got, France?

    Plenty it seems. The quality of goals in this game are well above the game itself.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    dixiedean said:

    Wow! This is some game

    Allez les Bleus!
  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    edited June 2018
    dixiedean said:

    Wow! This is some game

    Some game indeed -- in (so far) the most dramatic World Cup I can remember.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,265
    Mr. B, nice, though (didn't hear it so pleased to discover the apology).

    F1: about half the markets up.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,860
    DavidL said:

    MarqueeMark said:

    What have you got, France?

    Plenty it seems. The quality of goals in this game are well above the game itself.
    One of these teams with stars on their shirt won't even be making the quarter finals....
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,823
    tlg86 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Charles said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    FPT:

    Charles said:

    Nigelb said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Having observed SCOTUS quite closely in my little area for the last 15 years, the role that the justice’s clerks play in selecting and then deciding cases should not be underestimated.

    Not to mention that all those in the running for the current nomination have clerked for on or other of the conservative justices.

    The Supreme Court has been, almost since its inception, a political institution, and although it is habit for justices to pay lip service to judicial impartiality, the only decisions which are not nakedly political in controversial cases are those where there is not a clear cut majority.

    That Trump might be able to cement a conservative majority in the court, potentially for decades, having been elected on a minority of the popular vote, and confirmed by a Republican Senate which represents an even smaller percentage of the electorate, is going to be subject of furious controversy for the foreseeable future.
    Only among the losers, buddy. The winners won’t care.
    Republicans shouldn’t complain about a polarised political culture then, like with the Sanders incident, for instance.
    I don’t believe in telling people what they should or shouldn’t complain about.

    I was just observing that it’s usually the losers that complain
    And I was merely observing that the losers at this point constitute the majority of the US electorate, buddy.

    When they next control Congress and the presidency, there will be consequences.
    I don't really follow US politics that closely, but surely the Democrats should have made these old liberal justices stand down in 2015.
    You can’t make a justice stand down if they don’t want to... short of impeachment.
    (And Kennedy was not a liberal.)
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    DecrepitJohnL said:

    dixiedean said:

    Wow! This is some game

    Some game indeed -- in (so far) the most dramatic World Cup I can remember.
    TBF Putin has organised a good 'un, both on and off the pitch.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Charles said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    FPT:

    Charles said:

    Nigelb said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Having observed SCOTUS quite closely in my little area for the last 15 years, the role that the justice’s clerks play in selecting and then deciding cases should not be underestimated.

    Not to mention that all those in the running for the current nomination have clerked for on or other of the conservative justices.

    The Supreme Court has been, almost since its inception, a political institution, and although it is habit for justices to pay lip service to judicial impartiality, the only decisions which are not nakedly political in controversial cases are those where there is not a clear cut majority.

    That Trump might be able to cement a conservative majority in the court, potentially for decades, having been elected on a minority of the popular vote, and confirmed by a Republican Senate which represents an even smaller percentage of the electorate, is going to be subject of furious controversy for the foreseeable future.
    Only among the losers, buddy. The winners won’t care.
    Republicans shouldn’t complain about a polarised political culture then, like with the Sanders incident, for instance.
    I don’t believe in telling people what they should or shouldn’t complain about.

    I was just observing that it’s usually the losers that complain
    And I was merely observing that the losers at this point constitute the majority of the US electorate, buddy.

    When they next control Congress and the presidency, there will be consequences.
    I don't really follow US politics that closely, but surely the Democrats should have made these old liberal justices stand down in 2015.
    You can’t make a justice stand down if they don’t want to... short of impeachment.
    (And Kennedy was not a liberal.)
    I know the decision rests with them, but they clearly care more about themselves than their cause. Though I guess they claim to be impartial.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,979
    France take the lead 3-2
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,860
    France had something in the locker for sure!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    Vive La France!
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    3-2, hope France crack on from here. This Argentina team really are terrible.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    Stick that where the sun doesn't shine you drug addled racist dwarf.....
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,120
    I still think Mbappé isn't worth £166 million.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,656
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I still think Mbappé isn't worth £166 million.

    I agree. That was a bargain.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    edited June 2018
    BoJo – the betting favourite with a record of disappointing punters

    The Thread Header ought to read as...

    BoJo, the betting favourite with a history of disappointing blunders.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I still think Mbappé isn't worth £166 million.

    No player is.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I still think Mbappé isn't worth £166 million.

    It's a silly market when PSG are involved, but he is brilliant. He's one of the reasons why I backed Monaco at 150-1 for the 2016-17 Champions league.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,120
    I'm cheering for France because they helped us with the Falklands, plus I want to see Maradona cry.

    Plus I still feel guilty about the events at Mers-el-Kébir.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,860
    Boom!!!
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830
    4-2
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,979
    4-2 France, heading the French way now
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    They think its all over!
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,780
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I still think Mbappé isn't worth £166 million.

    Value may be rising...
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,656
    DavidL said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I still think Mbappé isn't worth £166 million.

    I agree. That was a bargain.
    Total bargain.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,823
    tlg86 said:

    Nigelb said:

    tlg86 said:

    Nigelb said:

    Charles said:

    The_Apocalypse said:

    FPT:

    Charles said:

    Nigelb said:

    SouthamObserver said:

    Having observed SCOTUS quite closely in my little area for the last 15 years, the role that the justice’s clerks play in selecting and then deciding cases should not be underestimated.

    Not to mention that all those in the running for the current nomination have clerked for on or other of the conservative justices.

    The Supreme Court has been, almost since its inception, a political institution, and although it is habit for justices to pay lip service to judicial impartiality, the only decisions which are not nakedly political in controversial cases are those where there is not a clear cut majority.

    That Trump might be able to cement a conservative majority in the court, potentially for decades, having been elected on a minority of the popular vote, and confirmed by a Republican Senate which represents an even smaller percentage of the electorate, is going to be subject of furious controversy for the foreseeable future.
    Only among the losers, buddy. The winners won’t care.
    Republicans shouldn’t complain about a polarised political culture then, like with the Sanders incident, for instance.
    I don’t believe in telling people what they should or shouldn’t complain about.

    I was just observing that it’s usually the losers that complain
    And I was merely observing that the losers at this point constitute the majority of the US electorate, buddy.

    When they next control Congress and the presidency, there will be consequences.
    I don't really follow US politics that closely, but surely the Democrats should have made these old liberal justices stand down in 2015.
    You can’t make a justice stand down if they don’t want to... short of impeachment.
    (And Kennedy was not a liberal.)
    I know the decision rests with them, but they clearly care more about themselves than their cause. Though I guess they claim to be impartial.
    I think it’s pretty common for justices to feel themselves above partisan politics (however ridiculous that might be objectively), and they tend to have very large egos.
    The fact that so many continue into their 80s is pretty firm evidence that planned retirement isn’t much of a thing with them. (Note Senators display similar tendencies.)
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm cheering for France because they helped us with the Falklands, plus I want to see Maradona cry.

    Plus I still feel guilty about the events at Mers-el-Kébir.

    ..by helping Argentina by selling them Exocets?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. B, nice, though (didn't hear it so pleased to discover the apology).

    F1: about half the markets up.

    Two safety cars so far in the F2 race, it seems there’s large parts of this track from which it’s very difficult to recover a dead car.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,120
    On topic, if only someone had advised there was a profitable trend to keep on laying the favourite for the Tory leadership.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I still think Mbappé isn't worth £166 million.

    But someone with £166m does!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    edited June 2018
    One thing is certain giroud definitely isn't worth 166 million....
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,120
    Now Neymar Jnr is someone who vastly overrated.

    He's a Fortnum & Mason Jason Lee.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,634
    If PSG have to give Mbappe back because of financial fair play then I think I could see City go all in for him.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    FrancisUrquhart said:

    One thing is certain giroud definitely isn't worth 166 million....

    No, but he does his bit. I don't get too upset when players leave Arsenal, but I was gutted when he was sold.
  • DeClareDeClare Posts: 483
    The trouble with Boris is that he has too many skeletons in his cupboard and even his own Sister got so sick of him that she left the Tories and joined the Lib/Dems.

    For example a tape exists where Boris then a journalist is heard agreeing to give a friend of his (who later turned out to be a fraudster) another journalist's home address so the friend could have him beaten up.

    Boris says that he never actually gave him the address in the end and nothing happened to the journalist, but it sounds bad and you can bet the tape will aired again if he's a leadership contender.

    He has also had many affairs outside marriage, he has fathered a daughter with one of his mistresses and tried to get a court order against this being made public, the judge dismissed his application calling his behaviour 'reckless'

    in his journalistic career he wrote articles insulting Africans, Buddhists, Jews, Scots and people from Liverpool amongst others. All these articles are bound to be re-published if he tries to become PM.

    Boris who is actually very intelligent gets away with a lot by playing the lovable buffoon, but that act won't get him anywhere near Downing Street.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,656
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    Now Neymar Jnr is someone who vastly overrated.

    He's a Fortnum & Mason Jason Lee.

    I agree with that one. Great ball skills. No team skills.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,923
    Cortinho is the man that is making Brazil tick at this world cup.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,979
    edited June 2018
    DeClare said:

    The trouble with Boris is that he has too many skeletons in his cupboard and even his own Sister got so sick of him that she left the Tories and joined the Lib/Dems.

    For example a tape exists where Boris then a journalist is heard agreeing to give a friend of his (who later turned out to be a fraudster) another journalist's home address so the friend could have him beaten up.

    Boris says that he never actually gave him the address in the end and nothing happened to the journalist, but it sounds bad and you can bet the tape will aired again if he's a leadership contender.

    He has also had many affairs outside marriage, he has fathered a daughter with one of his mistresses and tried to get a court order against this being made public, the judge dismissed his application calling his behaviour 'reckless'

    in his journalistic career he wrote articles insulting Africans, Buddhists, Jews, Scots and people from Liverpool amongst others. All these articles are bound to be re-published if he tries to become PM.

    Boris who is actually very intelligent gets away with a lot by playing the lovable buffoon, but that act won't get him anywhere near Downing Street.

    Skeletons are not necessarily an obstacle to the top job if you are charismatic, see JFK, Berlusconi, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    On topic, if only someone had advised there was a profitable trend to keep on laying the favourite for the Tory leadership.

    Lay Gove?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,120
    Foxy said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    On topic, if only someone had advised there was a profitable trend to keep on laying the favourite for the Tory leadership.

    Lay Gove?
    I'm not laying Gove just yet.

    I'll probably trade out soon though.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,036
    SquareRoot said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I'm cheering for France because they helped us with the Falklands, plus I want to see Maradona cry.

    Plus I still feel guilty about the events at Mers-el-Kébir.

    ..by helping Argentina by selling them Exocets?
    They didn't. At least not once the invasion had happened. France were great help to the British during the Falklands including giving us all the information we needed to neutralise the threat of the Exocets. And that comes from a man who should certainly should know and who called them our greatest ally in the war.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1387576/How-France-helped-us-win-Falklands-war-by-John-Nott.html
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,780
    DeClare said:

    The trouble with Boris is that he has too many skeletons in his cupboard and even his own Sister got so sick of him that she left the Tories and joined the Lib/Dems.

    For example a tape exists where Boris then a journalist is heard agreeing to give a friend of his (who later turned out to be a fraudster) another journalist's home address so the friend could have him beaten up.

    Boris says that he never actually gave him the address in the end and nothing happened to the journalist, but it sounds bad and you can bet the tape will aired again if he's a leadership contender.

    He has also had many affairs outside marriage, he has fathered a daughter with one of his mistresses and tried to get a court order against this being made public, the judge dismissed his application calling his behaviour 'reckless'

    in his journalistic career he wrote articles insulting Africans, Buddhists, Jews, Scots and people from Liverpool amongst others. All these articles are bound to be re-published if he tries to become PM.

    Boris who is actually very intelligent gets away with a lot by playing the lovable buffoon, but that act won't get him anywhere near Downing Street.

    What does he have against Buddhists?
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 42,919
    Is it just my monitor, or has a Photoshop gammon filter been used on Bojo's pic?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    tlg86 said:

    FrancisUrquhart said:

    One thing is certain giroud definitely isn't worth 166 million....

    No, but he does his bit. I don't get too upset when players leave Arsenal, but I was gutted when he was sold.
    Ditto Kante. He is a sensational player, and great paired with Pogba in midfield.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,953
    dixiedean said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I still think Mbappé isn't worth £166 million.

    Value may be rising...
    He's got a huge amount of miles left. If he keeps playing like this he will be able to be sure LD for a profit.
  • DeClareDeClare Posts: 483
    HYUFD said:

    DeClare said:

    The trouble with Boris is that he has too many skeletons in his cupboard and even his own Sister got so sick of him that she left the Tories and joined the Lib/Dems.

    For example a tape exists where Boris then a journalist is heard agreeing to give a friend of his (who later turned out to be a fraudster) another journalist's home address so the friend could have him beaten up.

    Boris says that he never actually gave him the address in the end and nothing happened to the journalist, but it sounds bad and you can bet the tape will aired again if he's a leadership contender.

    He has also had many affairs outside marriage, he has fathered a daughter with one of his mistresses and tried to get a court order against this being made public, the judge dismissed his application calling his behaviour 'reckless'

    in his journalistic career he wrote articles insulting Africans, Buddhists, Jews, Scots and people from Liverpool amongst others. All these articles are bound to be re-published if he tries to become PM.

    Boris who is actually very intelligent gets away with a lot by playing the lovable buffoon, but that act won't get him anywhere near Downing Street.

    Skeletons are not necessarily an obstacle to the top job if you are charismatic, see JFK, Berlusconi, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump
    Clinton was clean until after he got elected, we didn't find out about JFK's behaviour until after his death, Trump yes but we don't have open primaries where anyone can turn up and try to win a major party nomination.
    Berlusconi yeah but Italy is a funny sort of place.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,405
    edited June 2018
    DeClare said:

    HYUFD said:

    DeClare said:

    The trouble with Boris is that he has too many skeletons in his cupboard and even his own Sister got so sick of him that she left the Tories and joined the Lib/Dems.

    For example a tape exists where Boris then a journalist is heard agreeing to give a friend of his (who later turned out to be a fraudster) another journalist's home address so the friend could have him beaten up.

    Boris says that he never actually gave him the address in the end and nothing happened to the journalist, but it sounds bad and you can bet the tape will aired again if he's a leadership contender.

    He has also had many affairs outside marriage, he has fathered a daughter with one of his mistresses and tried to get a court order against this being made public, the judge dismissed his application calling his behaviour 'reckless'

    in his journalistic career he wrote articles insulting Africans, Buddhists, Jews, Scots and people from Liverpool amongst others. All these articles are bound to be re-published if he tries to become PM.

    Boris who is actually very intelligent gets away with a lot by playing the lovable buffoon, but that act won't get him anywhere near Downing Street.

    Skeletons are not necessarily an obstacle to the top job if you are charismatic, see JFK, Berlusconi, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump
    Clinton was clean until after he got elected, we didn't find out about JFK's behaviour until after his death, Trump yes but we don't have open primaries where anyone can turn up and try to win a major party nomination.
    Berlusconi yeah but Italy is a funny sort of place.
    I thought there was a scandal around Clinton before he won in 1992?

    EDIT: I'm thinking of him dodging the draft, though I think that showed he wasn't a complete idiot!
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,357
    dixiedean said:

    DeClare said:

    The trouble with Boris is that he has too many skeletons in his cupboard and even his own Sister got so sick of him that she left the Tories and joined the Lib/Dems.

    For example a tape exists where Boris then a journalist is heard agreeing to give a friend of his (who later turned out to be a fraudster) another journalist's home address so the friend could have him beaten up.

    Boris says that he never actually gave him the address in the end and nothing happened to the journalist, but it sounds bad and you can bet the tape will aired again if he's a leadership contender.

    He has also had many affairs outside marriage, he has fathered a daughter with one of his mistresses and tried to get a court order against this being made public, the judge dismissed his application calling his behaviour 'reckless'

    in his journalistic career he wrote articles insulting Africans, Buddhists, Jews, Scots and people from Liverpool amongst others. All these articles are bound to be re-published if he tries to become PM.

    Boris who is actually very intelligent gets away with a lot by playing the lovable buffoon, but that act won't get him anywhere near Downing Street.

    What does he have against Buddhists?
    The insulting poem at the Shwedegon pagoda in Yangon.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 62,265
    Mr. Sandpit, cheers for that suggestion.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,979
    edited June 2018
    DeClare said:

    HYUFD said:

    DeClare said:

    The trouble with Boris is that he has too many skeletons in his cupboard and even his own Sister got so sick of him that she left the Tories and joined the Lib/Dems.

    For example a tape exists where Boris then a journalist is heard agreeing to give a friend of his (who later turned out to be a fraudster) another journalist's home address so the friend could have him beaten up.

    Boris says that he never actually gave him the address in the end and nothing happened to the journalist, but it sounds bad and you can bet the tape will aired again if he's a leadership contender.

    He has also had many affairs outside marriage, he has fathered a daughter with one of his mistresses and tried to get a court order against this being made public, the judge dismissed his application calling his behaviour 'reckless'

    in his journalistic career he wrote articles insulting Africans, Buddhists, Jews, Scots and people from Liverpool amongst others. All these articles are bound to be re-published if he tries to become PM.

    Boris who is actually very intelligent gets away with a lot by playing the lovable buffoon, but that act won't get him anywhere near Downing Street.

    Skeletons are not necessarily an obstacle to the top job if you are charismatic, see JFK, Berlusconi, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump
    Clinton was clean until after he got elected, we didn't find out about JFK's behaviour until after his death, Trump yes but we don't have open primaries where anyone can turn up and try to win a major party nomination.
    Berlusconi yeah but Italy is a funny sort of place.
    There were plenty of scandals around Clinton even before he was first elected, remember Gennifer Flowers, dodging the draft, smoking pot but not inhaling? Whitewater was already in the media before he was re elected.

    The Tory Party lets the membership choose their leader so is not a million miles away from a closed primary in the USA, so even if Boris did not win the MPs vote if he got to the final two and won the membership vote he would become leader.


  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    Morris_Dancer said:

    Mr. Sandpit, cheers for that suggestion.

    Also good to see loads of overtaking and a number of different tyre strategies working in the F2 race. Hopefully a good omen for the big boys tomorrow.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 125,979
    edited June 2018
    Argentina score, now 4-3 to France
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