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With Labour apparently shifting its position on Brexit a notch or two there’s been a lot of interest about what Labour voters think particularly those who supported Leave at the referendum.
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Back in August 2016 I posted a few names of associates that would come back and haunt Trump. One was Russian mobster and Trump partner/advisor Felix Sater.
Sater has reportedly turned supergrass.
I'd love to know Yokel's background - if he could tell us, that is! He seems more on the ball than most.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/anti-europeans-must-be-reined-in-warns-clarke-738277.html
Mr Clarke opposed growing demands by sceptics for a future Tory government to renegotiate the Treaty of Rome, suggesting this was code for their goal of leaving the EU.
But the divide on Europe widened when John Maples, the shadow Foreign Secretary, announced that one of the first acts of an incoming Tory government would be to negotiate an amendment to the treaty allowing member states to opt out of future EU legislation.
Mr Maples toned down his speech, dropping plans to compare the threat to Britain from the EU to that from Nazi Germany. His original draft said that although his generation had not fought to secure Britain's freedom, it faced "a threat to our freedom and independence every bit as great".
As for the NHS, the increased training places the government is providing for UK nurses and doctors will help provide a longer term solution to that so the UK is not so reliant on imported healthcare workers
https://1drv.ms/x/s!Av4jQcUMVtBpiBtBI6GQaRTA-_MO
British Conservatism also contains a group in favour of free-trade, light-touch government, low-tax, pro-business, ourward-facing and a strong attraction to the Atlantic Alliance. That (basically Thatcherite) stance has also been an important strand in British Conservative thought, and was in ascendancy in the 70's, 80's and 90's. Although I do agree with your implication that that strand is currently in abeyance (which is one reason why I keep calling May a Christian Democrat)
ONS report the migration statistics as a rolling annual total. This is sensible as it takes out the seasonal variations in the data. However, the downside to reporting it as they do is that we will get four quarters of "net migration is down" headlines followed by four quarters of "net migration is up" headlines.
Well, that's my background-sounds-whilst-working sorted out...
[EDIT: link to list, not individual entry]
https://twitter.com/spajw/status/902210746062434304
I think they would be good things, how about you Mike ?
But you seem to be predicting net emigration from the UK this year - if so would you like to have a bet on that ?
All of us who have laid the draw will like that declaration.
https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/901886935735705600
I doubt many centre-right voters will support more money for the 1% if it means lower pay rises for themselves.
I've marked a couple of people I know as pricks after they thought they can welch on pub bets with the phrase "I wasn't being serious".
In practice, it will be take it or leave it, and with WTO Brexit as default, that is where the probable outcome lies.
https://m.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/eisenhower-lost-a-bet-and-had-to-give-montgomery-his-own-b-17.html
When They've Worked Out What The Deal Is They Will Let Us Know.
Biggest issue is the NHS
https://www.ipsos.com/ipsos-mori/en-uk/nhs-and-brexit-remain-biggest-issues-facing-country
For rational people, Europe is way down the list.
Labour need to relentlessly pound the tories for "making the country poorer"
Would you consider the death of your first child as a PRICE WORTH PAYING for remaining in the EU ?
Just so. It is high time that Labour started a tough parliamentary battle. For the last two years they have been no more than Mrs May`s poodle.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-28/brexit-is-beginning-to-look-like-no-brexit
Go on, guess!
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41070227
It will last as long as it takes the U.K. and the EU to agree on a new trade deal; otherwise, a transition is pointless. But the U.K. cannot dictate the pace of the negotiations, and the EU isn't interested in dictating it as long as the transition period preserves current arrangements. The EU, after all, didn't initiate Brexit; it's happy for the U.K. to stay on current terms, and if it loses its vote, too, that'll only be a bonus.
1. The principle that decisions about the UK should be taken in the UK.
2. Voting to leave offered the best chance for the UK to regain control over immigration and its own borders.
3. Remaining meant little or no choice about how the EU expanded its membership or powers.
The £350 m a week for the NHS did not even feature
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/
But it is a funny sort of Brexodus which leaves the number of European nationals in Britain at an all-time high. While the quarterly immigration figures did show a significant reduction in the scale of EU immigration to the UK, and a rise in the number of Europeans departing, those figures also showed that twice as many Europeans came to the UK as departed from it, with an estimated 122,000 EU nationals leaving the UK while 249,000 arrived in the year to March 2017.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/debunking-the-brexodus-myth/
That will work well.
Excuse me if in future I take any protestations from them about lack of progress with contempt and reply with 'negotiation is not presentation of you position and implementation'
When a close relative was dying, I was thrashing about trying to work out timetables and the doctor had to take me aside and point out gently that this person was dying, dying quickly, and that there was nothing to do. I used to know a divorce lawyer and she told me about the point where you have to tell them that they can't stay married to somebody who doesn't want to be married to them. The UK Government has not yet hit these points and is oscillating between begging ("deep and special relationship") and anger ("stubborn and unreasonable"). Sooner or later it would be better if a neutral friend took Davies aside and quietly explained his position.
Shock horror.
It seemed like an unlikely story before the denial, the existence of which gives it a little smidgen of credibility.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-macron-popularity-approval-rating-record-lows-ifop-poll-election-landslide-a7915876.html
City sources say that firms want a paper setting out the government’s intention for a transitional arrangement in financial services as soon as possible, so that a binding agreement with the EU can be completed this year. If a deal is not in place by the start of 2018, finance companies believe they will have to begin preparing for a hard Brexit in earnest. This would mean accelerating plans to shift operations from the UK to EU countries.
What, in 12 months, have Fox, Boris and Davies accomplished? Anything of note?