Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
As a regular Champions League watcher of my team, (who are sitting it out this season) I think Spurs have a nice draw. The group stages are seriously boring when you play Basel, Ludogrets, Anderlecht, Maribor etc. Spurs fans get to see their team play the best side in Europe twice, plus a very good team in Dortmund.
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Looks like a good opportunity to win the Europa Cup to me. But Real and Dortmund are great ties. As you say, Spurs were never going to go all the way.
As an Arsenal fan I can honestly say I am not going to miss the Group Stages, but I do miss that flicker of hope that we might win it. You've got to be in it for that though!
Thierry's miss when through and Freddie not putting it in at the near post have haunted me ever since.
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Looks like a good opportunity to win the Europa Cup to me. But Real and Dortmund are great ties. As you say, Spurs were never going to go all the way.
As an Arsenal fan I can honestly say I am not going to miss the Group Stages, but I do miss that flicker of hope that we might win it. You've got to be in it for that though!
Thierry's miss when through and Freddie not putting it in at the near post have haunted me ever since.
Yes, amazing how many chances we had considering we were playing Barca w 10 men. That was one of the last Arsenal games I went to actually. The route to the final was class. Super Jens didn't let in a goal I don't think?
Are you actually that fanatical, or do you think that if you simply repeat "more Europe" often enough to me that it'll somehow seep into my subconscious and I'll somehow subliminally become a europhile before I even realise it's happened?
Yes, the Juncker's Witnesses have profiled you as being susceptible to Euronationalism: unfulfilled patriotism, wanting to stand tall in the world but to limit the power of the state.
Unfortunately their service involves pre-cremation on earth, which is understandable for weight/cost reasons, but nowhere near as fun.
Hopefully (especially now with reusable stage 1's), over the next half century, the cost will come down far enough for me to afford to have my entire undecomposed cadaver strapped on top of a stage 2 and pointed at the sun.
Everything about orbital mechanics is counter-intuitive. It does my head in.
Damn.
The inability to decelerate from 65,000 mph is a problem I hadn't forseen. And I don't fancy going via Pluto. Even if the timescale wouldn't matter because I'd be dead.
I'd probably end up in some pathetic eliptical orbit of the sun for all of eternity, getting only semi-toasted every few centuries.
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Looks like a good opportunity to win the Europa Cup to me. But Real and Dortmund are great ties. As you say, Spurs were never going to go all the way.
As an Arsenal fan I can honestly say I am not going to miss the Group Stages, but I do miss that flicker of hope that we might win it. You've got to be in it for that though!
Thierry's miss when through and Freddie not putting it in at the near post have haunted me ever since.
Yes, amazing how many chances we had considering we were playing Barca w 10 men. That was one of the last Arsenal games I went to actually. The route to the final was class. Super Jens didn't let in a goal I don't think?
I was watching it on TV and even the commentator thought Thierry's was a foregone conclusion...
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Looks like a good opportunity to win the Europa Cup to me. But Real and Dortmund are great ties. As you say, Spurs were never going to go all the way.
As an Arsenal fan I can honestly say I am not going to miss the Group Stages, but I do miss that flicker of hope that we might win it. You've got to be in it for that though!
Thierry's miss when through and Freddie not putting it in at the near post have haunted me ever since.
Yes, amazing how many chances we had considering we were playing Barca w 10 men. That was one of the last Arsenal games I went to actually. The route to the final was class. Super Jens didn't let in a goal I don't think?
I was watching it on TV and even the commentator thought Thierry's was a foregone conclusion...
"and it's Henreeee...."
But no.
I think I have only been able to watch the highlights once or twice since. What a difference those last 20 mins have made to the club.
Belletti's only goal for Barca won them the UCL! I actually think that was an Almunia OG.
Almunia being picked over Jens the following season was Wenger's weirdest decision until he started playing Welbeck instead of Giroud
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Looks like a good opportunity to win the Europa Cup to me. But Real and Dortmund are great ties. As you say, Spurs were never going to go all the way.
As an Arsenal fan I can honestly say I am not going to miss the Group Stages, but I do miss that flicker of hope that we might win it. You've got to be in it for that though!
Thierry's miss when through and Freddie not putting it in at the near post have haunted me ever since.
Yes, amazing how many chances we had considering we were playing Barca w 10 men. That was one of the last Arsenal games I went to actually. The route to the final was class. Super Jens didn't let in a goal I don't think?
I was watching it on TV and even the commentator thought Thierry's was a foregone conclusion...
"and it's Henreeee...."
But no.
Belletti's only goal for Barca won the the UCL! I actually think that was an Almunia OG.
Almunia being picked over Jens the following season was Wenger's weirdest decision until he started playing Welbeck instead of Giroud
Or switched Iwobi to the centre when he causes havoc down the left wing.
Can't remember, I think I said PB was boring now, so someone challenged me to leave, and I made a very theatrical PBrexit.
It's good to have you back, mate, the place needs livening up. At the minute, it's all EU Nazis and Brexit Jihadis.
PB's going to get even more boring in September.
Mike's taking a holiday and as well all know, nothing ever happens when Mike's abroad.
So, Trump is getting impeached, Brexit is cancelled, and hello PM Corbyn, then?
I would buy a round for the house in Wetherspoons for 2 out of 3 of those!
Spennymoor Wetherspoons must be one of the best pubs in England. It's a former art deco cinema, The Grand Electric House, which serves fabulous breakfasts at ridiculously low prices.
But, overall, the quality of food up North tends to be far superior to the quality in London and the South East.
Now is as good a time as any for Brexiteers to confront these questions because they are coming down the line. Brexit is not Armageddon but nor is it a red, white and blue utopia. It is a resumption of full sovereignty and all the messy fixes that entails — no more throwing hands up and muttering about Brussels. Taking back control means owning what happens even if, as will likely be the case with immigration, Brexiteers find themselves cornered into a lot of things they thought they had voted against last June.
Those who switched off with a sigh of relief in July may not have noticed. But something big is slowly stirring in the undergrowth of British politics. Fact by fact, announcement by announcement, the case for Britain to remain in the European Union’s single market and customs union is growing stronger and more irresistible by the day. Such an outcome is most definitely not this government’s policy. But, this autumn, something will have to give.
Over the past 10 days David Davis’s Brexit department has published seven so-called partnership papers: important documents covering a wide range of subjects, from customs and Northern Ireland to civil justice and, most recently, disputes mechanisms, including the role of the European Court of Justice. According to the introductory blurb inside each, these papers are all about forming a bespoke post-Brexit partnership with the EU. Yet, by intention or accident, they do something very different. Together they make a case for sticking with the existing partnership as it stands, or at least with its key arrangements, such as the single market and customs union.
In every case, the papers start from the reality of the Brexit vote and then gently proceed to undermine it.
Now is as good a time as any for Brexiteers to confront these questions because they are coming down the line. Brexit is not Armageddon but nor is it a red, white and blue utopia. It is a resumption of full sovereignty and all the messy fixes that entails — no more throwing hands up and muttering about Brussels. Taking back control means owning what happens even if, as will likely be the case with immigration, Brexiteers find themselves cornered into a lot of things they thought they had voted against last June.
Now is as good a time as any for Brexiteers to confront these questions because they are coming down the line. Brexit is not Armageddon but nor is it a red, white and blue utopia. It is a resumption of full sovereignty and all the messy fixes that entails — no more throwing hands up and muttering about Brussels. Taking back control means owning what happens even if, as will likely be the case with immigration, Brexiteers find themselves cornered into a lot of things they thought they had voted against last June.
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw:g Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Looks like a good opportunity to win the Europa Cup to me. But Real and Dortmund are great ties. As you say, Spurs were never going to go all the way.
As an Arsenal fan I can honestly say I am not going to miss the Group Stages, but I do miss that flicker of hope that we might win it. You've got to be in it for that though!
Thierry's miss when through and Freddie not putting it in at the near post have haunted me ever since.
Yes, amazing how many chances we had considering we were playing Barca w 10 men. That was one of the last Arsenal games I went to actually. The route to the final was class. Super Jens didn't let in a goal I don't think?
I was watching it on TV and even the commentator thought Thierry's was a foregone conclusion...
"and it's Henreeee...."
But no.
I think I have only been able to watch the highlights once or twice since. What a difference those last 20 mins have made to the club.
Belletti's only goal for Barca won them the UCL! I actually think that was an Almunia OG.
Almunia being picked over Jens the following season was Wenger's weirdest decision until he started playing Welbeck instead of Giroud
Sorry one more thing.
Apart from losing the best left back in the league, perhaps on the planet for the odd 50p, his over-30 policy meant we lost the one group of players who could get the ball from our six yard box into the back of the opponent's net in five moves.
I'm still an AW fan though, but dear god it's frustrating at times.
Those who switched off with a sigh of relief in July may not have noticed. But something big is slowly stirring in the undergrowth of British politics. Fact by fact, announcement by announcement, the case for Britain to remain in the European Union’s single market and customs union is growing stronger and more irresistible by the day. Such an outcome is most definitely not this government’s policy. But, this autumn, something will have to give.
Over the past 10 days David Davis’s Brexit department has published seven so-called partnership papers: important documents covering a wide range of subjects, from customs and Northern Ireland to civil justice and, most recently, disputes mechanisms, including the role of the European Court of Justice. According to the introductory blurb inside each, these papers are all about forming a bespoke post-Brexit partnership with the EU. Yet, by intention or accident, they do something very different. Together they make a case for sticking with the existing partnership as it stands, or at least with its key arrangements, such as the single market and customs union.
In every case, the papers start from the reality of the Brexit vote and then gently proceed to undermine it.
In a few minutes SpaceX are attempting a launch - and recovery - of a rocket. Watch live here:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4u3ZN2g_MI
Nailed the landing again. This is getting very routine.
It'll never be routine for me. More than twenty years ago I followed the DCX-Clipper, and then Armadillo Aerospace (RIP) and Masten; it's amazing to think all that promise has been fulfilled.
I'm fascinated by all space exploration. I was slightly too young to appreciate Apollo 11, was a keen follower of the Space Shuttle, and the death of SkyLab but I'm worried now I'm 50 that I may not see Man's push to visit the Moon again, or make the leap to Mars. I might see the death of internal combustion cars, though!
I just missed the last manned Moon landings by a few months. No-one has walked on the Moon in my lifetime.
IMV in the next few years there will be another space race for the Moon. China have been making noises, and have been developing suitable heavy-lift rockets. Their Long March 9 will have about the same lift as the old Saturn V, and there's little need for such heavy rockets except for manned exploration.
Manned to Mars is probably imminently outside China's capabilities at the moment as they have far less experience in manned spaceflight than the US and Russia (and it's probably beyond them as well). Therefore the Moon seems a good target for China to gain international prestige.
Also IMV, this is why the US is building their hideously expensive SLS rocket systems. If they have a heavy-lift rocket, they'll be able to compete with the Chinese in a race. Without it, they do not.
Expect man back on the Moon by 2025, either by China, the US, or private companies. Mars will not be before 2030 IMO, sadly. Musk may say more about that at the end of next month.
Apologies if this retweet doesn't work very nicely but based on your post you'll like this I think.
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
Those who switched off with a sigh of relief in July may not have noticed. But something big is slowly stirring in the undergrowth of British politics. Fact by fact, announcement by announcement, the case for Britain to remain in the European Union’s single market and customs union is growing stronger and more irresistible by the day. Such an outcome is most definitely not this government’s policy. But, this autumn, something will have to give.
Over the past 10 days David Davis’s Brexit department has published seven so-called partnership papers: important documents covering a wide range of subjects, from customs and Northern Ireland to civil justice and, most recently, disputes mechanisms, including the role of the European Court of Justice. According to the introductory blurb inside each, these papers are all about forming a bespoke post-Brexit partnership with the EU. Yet, by intention or accident, they do something very different. Together they make a case for sticking with the existing partnership as it stands, or at least with its key arrangements, such as the single market and customs union.
In every case, the papers start from the reality of the Brexit vote and then gently proceed to undermine it.
Theresa May’s dire election campaign trashed her own “brand” as badly as Gerald Ratner ruined his family jewellery firm, a leading Tory pollster and peer has declared.
In a frank analysis of his party’s performance at the polls, Lord Hayward said that the election result, plus the Brexit vote and London Mayor election, also proved that the Conservatives can never again rely on “fear” tactics.
The veteran pollster and former MP, who first coined the phrase “shy Tories” to explain the party’s surprise 1992 victory, compared the Prime Minister’s campaign to Ratner famously undermining his own company.
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
Whereas it's clear what we want...
Strong border controls that work exactly the same as today.
Those who switched off with a sigh of relief in July may not have noticed. But something big is slowly stirring in the undergrowth of British politics. Fact by fact, announcement by announcement, the case for Britain to remain in the European Union’s single market and customs union is growing stronger and more irresistible by the day. Such an outcome is most definitely not this government’s policy. But, this autumn, something will have to give.
Over the past 10 days David Davis’s Brexit department has published seven so-called partnership papers: important documents covering a wide range of subjects, from customs and Northern Ireland to civil justice and, most recently, disputes mechanisms, including the role of the European Court of Justice. According to the introductory blurb inside each, these papers are all about forming a bespoke post-Brexit partnership with the EU. Yet, by intention or accident, they do something very different. Together they make a case for sticking with the existing partnership as it stands, or at least with its key arrangements, such as the single market and customs union.
In every case, the papers start from the reality of the Brexit vote and then gently proceed to undermine it.
Theresa May’s dire election campaign trashed her own “brand” as badly as Gerald Ratner ruined his family jewellery firm, a leading Tory pollster and peer has declared.
In a frank analysis of his party’s performance at the polls, Lord Hayward said that the election result, plus the Brexit vote and London Mayor election, also proved that the Conservatives can never again rely on “fear” tactics.
The veteran pollster and former MP, who first coined the phrase “shy Tories” to explain the party’s surprise 1992 victory, compared the Prime Minister’s campaign to Ratner famously undermining his own company.
Probably bit of both. Can't score from there if the keeper is in the centre of the goal on his line. However, still took some scoring. The Hajduk Split goal was quite something as well!
Probably bit of both. Can't score from there if the keeper is in the centre of the goal on his line. However, still took some scoring. The Hajduk Split goal was quite something as well!
Great strike, no doubt, but a worldie to me has to be unstoppable, and I would blame Cech if Arsenal conceded that
Unfortunately their service involves pre-cremation on earth, which is understandable for weight/cost reasons, but nowhere near as fun.
Hopefully (especially now with reusable stage 1's), over the next half century, the cost will come down far enough for me to afford to have my entire undecomposed cadaver strapped on top of a stage 2 and pointed at the sun.
Everything about orbital mechanics is counter-intuitive. It does my head in.
Damn.
The inability to decelerate from 65,000 mph is a problem I hadn't forseen. And I don't fancy going via Pluto. Even if the timescale wouldn't matter because I'd be dead.
I'd probably end up in some pathetic eliptical orbit of the sun for all of eternity, getting only semi-toasted every few centuries.
I can't risk that.
Back to the drawing board.
Think of it this way. You and the planet you are standing on currently in orbit around the Sun. That means you are travelling at about 30 kilometers a second at 90degrees to the Sun. In order to fall into the Sun you have to reduce your speed to zero, turn left[1], and let yourself fall in. So all you have to do is strap a rocket to you that will accelerate you to 30kps and point it in the right direction (that bit's important). Pack a lunch.
Choice of rocket is tricky. The largest rocket we've ever put into orbit (I think?) is the Apollo third stage, the S-IVB, which could get you to 11kps, so as Stephen Hawking once said, biatch you be fucked. However I am the person who once mixed up electrons and neutrons in an explanation of nuclear explosions, so I await somebody to point out my errors. Knowing PB it'll take about thirty seconds and involve Brexit but there y'go...
[1] If the North Pole is "up" then the Earth revolves around the Sun counterclockwise
Theresa May’s dire election campaign trashed her own “brand” as badly as Gerald Ratner ruined his family jewellery firm, a leading Tory pollster and peer has declared.
In a frank analysis of his party’s performance at the polls, Lord Hayward said that the election result, plus the Brexit vote and London Mayor election, also proved that the Conservatives can never again rely on “fear” tactics.
The veteran pollster and former MP, who first coined the phrase “shy Tories” to explain the party’s surprise 1992 victory, compared the Prime Minister’s campaign to Ratner famously undermining his own company.
Interesting though the Tories still got their highest voteshare since 1992 and as Hayward says “The Tories didn’t lose the election, they lost it against expectations and only then in certain parts of the country. “In London, Bristol and the public sector towns and cities of England and Wales the Tories went backwards - heavily. “They won, not only in Scotland, but also in the south west of England, in much of the Midlands, South Yorkshire and the North East. Such are the cross flows of the election that Labour now hold Kensington while the Tories hold Mansfield.”
You can only consider yourself truly edgy if they ban you for long periods without telling you why, or when people you best cant bring themselves to reply to you.
A near half trillion pound current account deficit over the last five years and a £261bn downward revision in Britain's net international investment position of 2015:
A near half trillion pound current account deficit over the last five years and a £261bn downward revision in Britain's net international investment position of 2015:
Unfortunately their service involves pre-cremation on earth, which is understandable for weight/cost reasons, but nowhere near as fun.
Hopefully (especially now with reusable stage 1's), over the next half century, the cost will come down far enough for me to afford to have my entire undecomposed cadaver strapped on top of a stage 2 and pointed at the sun.
Everything about orbital mechanics is counter-intuitive. It does my head in.
Damn.
The inability to decelerate from 65,000 mph is a problem I hadn't forseen. And I don't fancy going via Pluto. Even if the timescale wouldn't matter because I'd be dead.
I'd probably end up in some pathetic eliptical orbit of the sun for all of eternity, getting only semi-toasted every few centuries.
I can't risk that.
Back to the drawing board.
Think of it this way. You and the planet you are standing on currently in orbit around the Sun. That means you are travelling at about 30 kilometers a second at 90degrees to the Sun. In order to fall into the Sun you have to reduce your speed to zero, turn left[1], and let yourself fall in. So all you have to do is strap a rocket to you that will accelerate you to 30kps and point it in the right direction (that bit's important). Pack a lunch.
Choice of rocket is tricky. The largest rocket we've ever put into orbit (I think?) is the Apollo third stage, the S-IVB, which could get you to 11kps, so as Stephen Hawking once said, biatch you be fucked. However I am the person who once mixed up electrons and neutrons in an explanation of nuclear explosions, so I await somebody to point out my errors. Knowing PB it'll take about thirty seconds and involve Brexit but there y'go...
[1] If the North Pole is "up" then the Earth revolves around the Sun counterclockwise
The footnote being your error... the Imperialist racist Mercator drew his map upside down and not to scale.
More importantly I think this analogy has legs. Is Brexit flying into or away from the sun?
A near half trillion pound current account deficit over the last five years and a £261bn downward revision in Britain's net international investment position of 2015:
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
Whereas it's clear what we want...
Strong border controls that work exactly the same as today.
Ummmm.......
What we want is very simple.
* We want a very hard border with the EU. We want a very soft border with Ireland. * We want to leave the EU. We want the same access to the EU as now.
If I understand the UK position papers correctly (hat-tip @CarlottaVance ), this will be achieved with computers.
Think of it this way. You and the planet you are standing on currently in orbit around the Sun. That means you are travelling at about 30 kilometers a second at 90degrees to the Sun. In order to fall into the Sun you have to reduce your speed to zero, turn left[1], and let yourself fall in. So all you have to do is strap a rocket to you that will accelerate you to 30kps and point it in the right direction (that bit's important). Pack a lunch.
Choice of rocket is tricky. The largest rocket we've ever put into orbit (I think?) is the Apollo third stage, the S-IVB, which could get you to 11kps, so as Stephen Hawking once said, biatch you be fucked. However I am the person who once mixed up electrons and neutrons in an explanation of nuclear explosions, so I await somebody to point out my errors. Knowing PB it'll take about thirty seconds and involve Brexit but there y'go...
[1] If the North Pole is "up" then the Earth revolves around the Sun counterclockwise
The footnote being your error... the Imperialist racist Mercator drew his map upside down and not to scale.
More importantly I think this analogy has legs. Is Brexit flying into or away from the sun?
Whilst my old sparring pal SeanT has re-emerged from whatever place he has been residing in (hopefully hedonistIc) I'll come back with a betting tip....
Depending on the draw, I think David Ferrer has a good chance of going long at the US open next week....
Only an opinion but the US Open is the most open it has been for many years. It resembles something like the VEEP market....
Whatever happened to our really strong hand? And German car manufacturers...
' Today, we are setting out our assessment of what would happen in the weeks and months after a vote to Leave on June 23.
It is clear that there would be an immediate and profound shock to our economy.
The analysis produced by the Treasury today shows that a vote to leave will push our economy into a recession that would knock 3.6 per cent off GDP and, over two years, put hundreds of thousands of people out of work right across the country, compared to the forecast for continued growth if we vote to remain in the EU.
In a more severe shock scenario, Treasury economists estimate that our economy could be hit by 6 per cent, there would be a deeper recession and unemployment would rise by even more. '
WTF...To achieve a pass in Maths GCSE - which is a grade 4 under the new system or a C under the old system - the average mark was 18 per cent, according to Ofqual, but individual exam boards set their pass marks themselves.
Having looked at those sample GCSE, they were absolutely trivial. People should be needing to get a lot more than 1 in 5 correct to "pass".
If I understand the UK position papers correctly (hat-tip @CarlottaVance ), this will be achieved with computers.
The same computers we use to calculate student migrant figures perhaps.
Which gives me an opportunity to make an on-topic comment (for novelty's sake if nothing else). The Statistics and Registration Service Act 2007 and the UK Statistics Authority were specifically set up to prevent politicians futzing around with the stats. Cable's criticism of May is exactly wrong.
WTF...To achieve a pass in Maths GCSE - which is a grade 4 under the new system or a C under the old system - the average mark was 18 per cent, according to Ofqual, but individual exam boards set their pass marks themselves.
Having looked at those sample GCSE, they were absolutely trivial. People should be needing to get a lot more than 1 in 5 correct to "pass".
Not quite the pass at O Level of 60 years ago.....
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
Theresa May’s dire election campaign trashed her own “brand” as badly as Gerald Ratner ruined his family jewellery firm, a leading Tory pollster and peer has declared.
In a frank analysis of his party’s performance at the polls, Lord Hayward said that the election result, plus the Brexit vote and London Mayor election, also proved that the Conservatives can never again rely on “fear” tactics.
The veteran pollster and former MP, who first coined the phrase “shy Tories” to explain the party’s surprise 1992 victory, compared the Prime Minister’s campaign to Ratner famously undermining his own company.
Interesting though the Tories still got their highest voteshare since 1992 and as Hayward says “The Tories didn’t lose the election, they lost it against expectations and only then in certain parts of the country. “In London, Bristol and the public sector towns and cities of England and Wales the Tories went backwards - heavily. “They won, not only in Scotland, but also in the south west of England, in much of the Midlands, South Yorkshire and the North East. Such are the cross flows of the election that Labour now hold Kensington while the Tories hold Mansfield.”
Mmm, some re-writing of history here? The only regions to show a Lab to Con swing were Scotland and the North-East. The results in the Midlands, Yorkshire and Wales were dire compared to expectations. How exactly did they "win" South Yorkshire? 0 seats. If he means swing to, then yes, but by those criteria Labour swept the South-east! Maybe I am being unfair, and this paragraph is out of context.
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
They will fabricate the UK being outside the customs union and single market, as Theresa May said she wanted?
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
They will fabricate the UK being outside the customs union and single market, as Theresa May said she wanted?
No, but practical arrangements could be made on customs alignment and regulatory equivalence that gave both sides most of what they wanted on those, economically, and made UK formal membership of both seem academic.
But, the EU don't want to go there in case the Emperor is found to have no clothes.
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
They will fabricate the UK being outside the customs union and single market, as Theresa May said she wanted?
No, but practical arrangements could be made on customs alignment and regulatory equivalence that gave both sides most of what they wanted on those, economically, and made UK formal membership of both seem academic.
But, the EU don't want to go there in case the Emperor is found to have no clothes.
Equivalence means maintaining coordination. Independence means ceasing coordination. We can't have the benefits of coordination without its constraints, regardless of what name we call our status.
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
They will fabricate the UK being outside the customs union and single market, as Theresa May said she wanted?
No, but practical arrangements could be made on customs alignment and regulatory equivalence that gave both sides most of what they wanted on those, economically, and made UK formal membership of both seem academic.
But, the EU don't want to go there in case the Emperor is found to have no clothes.
Equivalence means maintaining coordination. Independence means ceasing coordination. We can't have the benefits of coordination without its constraints, regardless of what name we call our status.
You make it sound like an absolute, that either we have coordination or we don't.
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
They will fabricate the UK being outside the customs union and single market, as Theresa May said she wanted?
No, but practical arrangements could be made on customs alignment and regulatory equivalence that gave both sides most of what they wanted on those, economically, and made UK formal membership of both seem academic.
But, the EU don't want to go there in case the Emperor is found to have no clothes.
Quitting the EU is too much of an agg bruv. I fly all over Europe - no way I'm queueing with a load of mugs. Was a naughty idea while it lasted.
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
They will fabricate the UK being outside the customs union and single market, as Theresa May said she wanted?
No, but practical arrangements could be made on customs alignment and regulatory equivalence that gave both sides most of what they wanted on those, economically, and made UK formal membership of both seem academic.
But, the EU don't want to go there in case the Emperor is found to have no clothes.
Equivalence means maintaining coordination. Independence means ceasing coordination. We can't have the benefits of coordination without its constraints, regardless of what name we call our status.
You make it sound like an absolute, that either we have coordination or we don't.
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
They will fabricate the UK being outside the customs union and single market, as Theresa May said she wanted?
No, but practical arrangements could be made on customs alignment and regulatory equivalence that gave both sides most of what they wanted on those, economically, and made UK formal membership of both seem academic.
But, the EU don't want to go there in case the Emperor is found to have no clothes.
Quitting the EU is too much of an agg bruv. I fly all over Europe - no way I'm queueing with a load of mugs. Was a naughty idea while it lasted.
Flying become "agg" way before we even thought of having a referendum on the EU. It hasn't been fun for over 10 years now.
Drive, or take the train or ferry. Much more civilised, and fewer mugs.
Theresa May’s dire election campaign trashed her own “brand” as badly as Gerald Ratner ruined his family jewellery firm, a leading Tory pollster and peer has declared.
In a frank analysis of his party’s performance at the polls, Lord Hayward said that the election result, plus the Brexit vote and London Mayor election, also proved that the Conservatives can never again rely on “fear” tactics.
The veteran pollster and former MP, who first coined the phrase “shy Tories” to explain the party’s surprise 1992 victory, compared the Prime Minister’s campaign to Ratner famously undermining his own company.
Interesting though the Tories still got their highest voteshare since 1992 and as Hayward says “The Tories didn’t lose the election, they lost it against expectations and only then in certain parts of the country. “In London, Bristol and the public sector towns and cities of England and Wales the Tories went backwards - heavily. “They won, not only in Scotland, but also in the south west of England, in much of the Midlands, South Yorkshire and the North East. Such are the cross flows of the election that Labour now hold Kensington while the Tories hold Mansfield.”
Mmm, some re-writing of history here? The only regions to show a Lab to Con swing were Scotland and the North-East. The results in the Midlands, Yorkshire and Wales were dire compared to expectations. How exactly did they "win" South Yorkshire? 0 seats. If he means swing to, then yes, but by those criteria Labour swept the South-east! Maybe I am being unfair, and this paragraph is out of context.
Politicians these days are on one. They just make up shite. Zero votes/seats is a win if you are off your nut.
In case it's of interest to anyone, the current production of Julius Caesar at the RSC is truly excellent (and the first one I've really enjoyed in ages). No big cuts in the text, and done without gimmicks, but with real insight.
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
Whereas it's clear what we want...
Strong border controls that work exactly the same as today.
Ummmm.......
What we want is very simple.
* We want a very hard border with the EU. We want a very soft border with Ireland. * We want to leave the EU. We want the same access to the EU as now.
If I understand the UK position papers correctly (hat-tip @CarlottaVance ), this will be achieved with computers.
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
Whereas it's clear what we want...
Strong border controls that work exactly the same as today.
Ummmm.......
What we want is very simple.
* We want a very hard border with the EU. We want a very soft border with Ireland. * We want to leave the EU. We want the same access to the EU as now.
If I understand the UK position papers correctly (hat-tip @CarlottaVance ), this will be achieved with computers.
(tries to swallow own fist)
No one really wants to leave now mate. Was a bit of a laugh but no-one can really be fucked. Tracy May should do one - she's fucking boring
Apparently Peter Bone was on Newsnight tonight really saying to viewers that he's the 'centre ground.' Ummm, okay then....
Re students who got their results today. I don't envy those still in the education system at the moment. I'm especially glad that I don't have to deal with the kind of anxiety and nervousness that comes with results days anymore.
In regard to pass marks, weren't exams supposed to be 'tougher' under the Tories? It's not these kids fault if exams aren't the way they should be. Blame the higher ups. Kids are just trying their best, and making do with what they've been given. And if the politicians are at fault here, then well, maybe the electorate need to take a look at why they've been voting for these politicians over the last few decades....
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
They will fabricate the UK being outside the customs union and single market, as Theresa May said she wanted?
No, but practical arrangements could be made on customs alignment and regulatory equivalence that gave both sides most of what they wanted on those, economically, and made UK formal membership of both seem academic.
But, the EU don't want to go there in case the Emperor is found to have no clothes.
Quitting the EU is too much of an agg bruv. I fly all over Europe - no way I'm queueing with a load of mugs. Was a naughty idea while it lasted.
If you charter a plane rather than buying regular tickets you get to use the general aviation terminal and skip the queues.
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
They will fabricate the UK being outside the customs union and single market, as Theresa May said she wanted?
No, but practical arrangements could be made on customs alignment and regulatory equivalence that gave both sides most of what they wanted on those, economically, and made UK formal membership of both seem academic.
But, the EU don't want to go there in case the Emperor is found to have no clothes.
Quitting the EU is too much of an agg bruv. I fly all over Europe - no way I'm queueing with a load of mugs. Was a naughty idea while it lasted.
If you charter a plane rather than buying regular tickets you get to use the general aviation terminal and skip the queues.
For the super rich maybe. Might as well go back into the EU. All we've heard about for two years plus from Tracy May etc is Europe. Europe kicks. Better than up north by a stretch.
Taking back responsibility is the whole point of Brexit, I would say.
And yet they seem so reluctant to do it.
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
It's hard to know what our negotiating partners want. Do they want strong customs checks at the Irish Border, or do they want something similar to the status quo?
They want the UK to get a worse deal than an EU member, and are willing to fabricate such a situation if needs be, to bring it about.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
You've got this bass-ackwards. The UK is leaving the EU, yes? At that point all arrangements cease. This is the "worse deal" that you refer to, and the people fabricating it is us: the UK. According to the position papers, the UK wants a new deal that mimics much of the existing arrangements in order to minimise disruption. Since this is by definition a new deal, it requires actually giving something to the EU - you want a thing, you pay the cost of the thing, and the person who decides the cost is the seller.
The UK government is having tremendous difficulty coming to terms with this concept, and is alternating between outright fawning towards the EU ("deep and special relationship") and throwing insults at it (“stubborn and unreasonable”). This is worrying. I am not a Leaver (I know: it's a surprise... ) but if you want to Leave there are ways of doing Leaving correctly, and this just isn't it.
In case it's of interest to anyone, the current production of Julius Caesar at the RSC is truly excellent (and the first one I've really enjoyed in ages). No big cuts in the text, and done without gimmicks, but with real insight.
Bit of Shakespeare bruv? MacBeth's your best play there. I once got roped in to play a witch when my mum's mate got the flu. Quite like the theatrics
Indicators for next year not too bright. Its times like these that I am glad of a secure job and index linked pension, and of course £350 million per week spending money to look forward to
Theresa May’s dire election campaign trashed her own “brand” as badly as Gerald Ratner ruined his family jewellery firm, a leading Tory pollster and peer has declared.
In a frank analysis of his party’s performance at the polls, Lord Hayward said that the election result, plus the Brexit vote and London Mayor election, also proved that the Conservatives can never again rely on “fear” tactics.
The veteran pollster and former MP, who first coined the phrase “shy Tories” to explain the party’s surprise 1992 victory, compared the Prime Minister’s campaign to Ratner famously undermining his own company.
Interesting though the Tories still got their highest voteshare since 1992 and as Hayward says “The Tories didn’t lose the election, they lost it against expectations and only then in certain parts of the country. “In London, Bristol and the public sector towns and cities of England and Wales the Tories went backwards - heavily. “They won, not only in Scotland, but also in the south west of England, in much of the Midlands, South Yorkshire and the North East. Such are the cross flows of the election that Labour now hold Kensington while the Tories hold Mansfield.”
Mmm, some re-writing of history here? The only regions to show a Lab to Con swing were Scotland and the North-East. The results in the Midlands, Yorkshire and Wales were dire compared to expectations. How exactly did they "win" South Yorkshire? 0 seats. If he means swing to, then yes, but by those criteria Labour swept the South-east! Maybe I am being unfair, and this paragraph is out of context.
The Tories won more votes than Labour in the South West and Scotland and the Midlands and they saw a swing to them in South Yorkshire and the North East
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Superb.
The inability to decelerate from 65,000 mph is a problem I hadn't forseen. And I don't fancy going via Pluto. Even if the timescale wouldn't matter because I'd be dead.
I'd probably end up in some pathetic eliptical orbit of the sun for all of eternity, getting only semi-toasted every few centuries.
I can't risk that.
Back to the drawing board.
"and it's Henreeee...."
But no.
Belletti's only goal for Barca won them the UCL! I actually think that was an Almunia OG.
Almunia being picked over Jens the following season was Wenger's weirdest decision until he started playing Welbeck instead of Giroud
But anyway we shouldn't air our pain in public.
But, overall, the quality of food up North tends to be far superior to the quality in London and the South East.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/brexit-means-taking-back-responsibility/
Over the past 10 days David Davis’s Brexit department has published seven so-called partnership papers: important documents covering a wide range of subjects, from customs and Northern Ireland to civil justice and, most recently, disputes mechanisms, including the role of the European Court of Justice. According to the introductory blurb inside each, these papers are all about forming a bespoke post-Brexit partnership with the EU. Yet, by intention or accident, they do something very different. Together they make a case for sticking with the existing partnership as it stands, or at least with its key arrangements, such as the single market and customs union.
In every case, the papers start from the reality of the Brexit vote and then gently proceed to undermine it.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/24/case-britains-ties-europe-severed-falling-apart-brexiteers-migration-norway-option
Border with Ireland?
"Not our problem"
Ummm....
Apart from losing the best left back in the league, perhaps on the planet for the odd 50p, his over-30 policy meant we lost the one group of players who could get the ball from our six yard box into the back of the opponent's net in five moves.
I'm still an AW fan though, but dear god it's frustrating at times.
https://twitter.com/Patnspace/status/897632376758685698
http://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/brexit-behind-fivefold-increase-in-chinese-investor-visits-to-ireland-36062820.html
Brexit behind fivefold increase in Chinese investor visits to Ireland
Theresa May’s dire election campaign trashed her own “brand” as badly as Gerald Ratner ruined his family jewellery firm, a leading Tory pollster and peer has declared.
In a frank analysis of his party’s performance at the polls, Lord Hayward said that the election result, plus the Brexit vote and London Mayor election, also proved that the Conservatives can never again rely on “fear” tactics.
The veteran pollster and former MP, who first coined the phrase “shy Tories” to explain the party’s surprise 1992 victory, compared the Prime Minister’s campaign to Ratner famously undermining his own company.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-ratners-trashed-brand-lord-hayward-tory-pollster_uk_599f2eace4b0821444c1e5d7?
But what a goal from Sigurdsson. If the Arse want to win Europa League, they will have some competition from the mighty EFC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_bau9Fyjxs
Strong border controls that work exactly the same as today.
Ummmm.......
The Hajduk Split goal was quite something as well!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4821082/Could-pass-GCSE-maths.html
Choice of rocket is tricky. The largest rocket we've ever put into orbit (I think?) is the Apollo third stage, the S-IVB, which could get you to 11kps, so as Stephen Hawking once said, biatch you be fucked. However I am the person who once mixed up electrons and neutrons in an explanation of nuclear explosions, so I await somebody to point out my errors. Knowing PB it'll take about thirty seconds and involve Brexit but there y'go...
[1] If the North Pole is "up" then the Earth revolves around the Sun counterclockwise
“The Tories didn’t lose the election, they lost it against expectations and only then in certain parts of the country.
“In London, Bristol and the public sector towns and cities of England and Wales the Tories went backwards - heavily.
“They won, not only in Scotland, but also in the south west of England, in much of the Midlands, South Yorkshire and the North East. Such are the cross flows of the election that Labour now hold Kensington while the Tories hold Mansfield.”
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/nationalaccounts/uksectoraccounts/articles/nationalaccountsarticles/detailedassessmentofchangestobalanceofpaymentsannualestimates1997to2015#analysis-of-impact-on-the-current-account
Now what effect does that have on currencies ?
More importantly I think this analogy has legs. Is Brexit flying into or away from the sun?
Brexiteers want to remain in its warm glow while being free of its gravity...
But what happens when there are no more Mayfair mansions and Premiership football clubs to sell ?
Perhaps we'll have to try living within our means at that point - a frightening thought for millions of people and probably all politicians.
Whatever happened to our really strong hand? And German car manufacturers...
Independent but with friendly relationship with our larger neighbour.
I could work with that
* We want a very hard border with the EU. We want a very soft border with Ireland.
* We want to leave the EU. We want the same access to the EU as now.
If I understand the UK position papers correctly (hat-tip @CarlottaVance ), this will be achieved with computers.
(tries to swallow own fist)
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41041216
Depending on the draw, I think David Ferrer has a good chance of going long at the US open next week....
Only an opinion but the US Open is the most open it has been for many years. It resembles something like the VEEP market....
https://twitter.com/DavidDavisMP/status/735770127564607489
https://twitter.com/DavidDavisMP/status/735770165510430721
It is clear that there would be an immediate and profound shock to our economy.
The analysis produced by the Treasury today shows that a vote to leave will push our economy into a recession that would knock 3.6 per cent off GDP and, over two years, put hundreds of thousands of people out of work right across the country, compared to the forecast for continued growth if we vote to remain in the EU.
In a more severe shock scenario, Treasury economists estimate that our economy could be hit by 6 per cent, there would be a deeper recession and unemployment would rise by even more. '
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/22/david-cameron-and-george-osborne-brexit-would-put-our-economy-in/
Are you still predicting that the recession will occur as soon as A50 is activated ?
Oh wait ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/24/emmanuel-macron-has-spent-26000-makeup-first-three-months-french/
Oh, wait...
Having looked at those sample GCSE, they were absolutely trivial. People should be needing to get a lot more than 1 in 5 correct to "pass".
Delighted Davis and the UK are calling them out on it.
Not surprised by the echoes of Lord Haw-Haws on this thread to the contrary, though.
That's it.
It should show (to the intelligent) that being in the EU doesn't matter as much economically as people think it does, or they wouldn't have to pull such stunts to "prove" the point.
How exactly did they "win" South Yorkshire? 0 seats. If he means swing to, then yes, but by those criteria Labour swept the South-east!
Maybe I am being unfair, and this paragraph is out of context.
But, the EU don't want to go there in case the Emperor is found to have no clothes.
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/900448311785771008
"Absolute" is what he's all about (one way).
Drive, or take the train or ferry. Much more civilised, and fewer mugs.
Fatted calves look at each other uneasily....
Am I missing something?
No big cuts in the text, and done without gimmicks, but with real insight.
Re students who got their results today. I don't envy those still in the education system at the moment. I'm especially glad that I don't have to deal with the kind of anxiety and nervousness that comes with results days anymore.
In regard to pass marks, weren't exams supposed to be 'tougher' under the Tories? It's not these kids fault if exams aren't the way they should be. Blame the higher ups. Kids are just trying their best, and making do with what they've been given. And if the politicians are at fault here, then well, maybe the electorate need to take a look at why they've been voting for these politicians over the last few decades....
The UK government is having tremendous difficulty coming to terms with this concept, and is alternating between outright fawning towards the EU ("deep and special relationship") and throwing insults at it (“stubborn and unreasonable”). This is worrying. I am not a Leaver (I know: it's a surprise...
All those tweets you copied and pasted which predicted disaster and it didn't happen.
Do you feel let down ?
He's an old, stupid cock who failed as anti-Business Secretary. He is a stupid old loony of no account, like all LibDems.
https://twitter.com/DavidDavisMP/status/695208361625796608
https://twitter.com/nickreeves9876/status/900848048804417538
Indicators for next year not too bright. Its times like these that I am glad of a secure job and index linked pension, and of course £350 million per week spending money to look forward to