Your answer to an argument with my wife, my car breaking down or a bad day at work would be "more Europe".
Are you actually that fanatical, or do you think that if you simply repeat "more Europe" often enough to me that it'll somehow seep into my subconscious and I'll somehow subliminally become a europhile before I even realise it's happened?
You're already a Europhile.
You're one of Juncker's fifth columnists who are intent on delivering Ted Heath's vision.
Presumably, then, those now attacking Theresa May for insisting on keeping student numbers in the net migration target all along, and arguing for them to be taken out, will now be happy for them to stay in for good given that officially it makes very little difference either way?
I think the government are loathe to remove them as the inclusion of student numbers is an international standard.
So why did Cable say nothing about it both before and after the Eection 2015 and wait until now.... and get all huffy puffy about it ? I think we know the answer...... Silly season story to give Vince some prominence.
May be Vince had another senior moment and forgot that it happened?
Congressional investigators have unearthed an email from a top Trump aide that referenced a previously unreported effort to arrange a meeting last year between Trump campaign officials and Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to sources with direct knowledge of the matter.
' The universities have argued strongly over the years that overseas student bring economic benefits, have a big impact on the fee revenue at many institutions and that it was wrong to include them in official immigration figures. '
' The universities have argued strongly over the years that overseas student bring economic benefits, have a big impact on the fee revenue at many institutions and that it was wrong to include them in official immigration figures. '
Presumably, then, those now attacking Theresa May for insisting on keeping student numbers in the net migration target all along, and arguing for them to be taken out, will now be happy for them to stay in for good given that officially it makes very little difference either way?
I think the government are loathe to remove them as the inclusion of student numbers is an international standard.
It seems on the face of it that the government have done a pretty good job of closing down a lot of the fake language colleges that were basically a front for economic migration from the sub continent. We should be encouraging overseas students who are coming to study for degrees or higher qualifications, as they’re a massive export for the UK.
When they finish their studies we should happily give visas to those who get the offer of a graduate trainee place in the professions, but not so much those who want to go and work for uncle’s taxi firm in Rotherham.
' Slovakian man, 49, and woman, 45, arrested on suspicion of slavery offences as 20 men located in investigation into exploitation of eastern European workers
Two people have been arrested after 20 suspected victims of modern slavery were located in the West Midlands.
Police said the 20 men, who were mainly from Slovakia and Romania, were discovered as part of an investigation into the exploitation of eastern European workers for cheap labour.
Raids were carried out at three restaurants. Modern slavery warrants were executed simultaneously at Ming Moon in Wolverhampton, Wing Wah in Coventry and Red Leaf in West Bromwich at 8am on Tuesday. An associated address in Handsworth was also raided.
Twelve suspected slavery victims were found at the premises in Coventry, five in Wolverhampton and three in Handsworth. '
@NickPalmer：Yes, that's an interesting article. They say essentially that British policy is oriented to leaving in name only, and that the tabloids and Leave voters haven't yet woken up to it. They conclude that either Britain will remain effectively members, or the government will need to be replaced by one that's serious about leaving. And that isn't really going to happen.
Although I now realise that both Remainers and Leavers don't want change, and in the case of Leavers don't expect it, it doesn't mean there will be none. There will be change but we won't be in control of it. We will not do anything serious to enact it and it will be largely up to other parties, especially the EU, the degree to which it can be mitigated.
Interesting thoughts, but I don't think that the Leavers anticipate no change, but that they expect to keep the benefits of EU membership without costs. The leading Leaver politicians don't want much change, but the man in the Hartlepool Wetherspoons does. I can see problems ahead due to that.
Will Leaverstan be a better place in 10 years time? I think that very unlikely.
Careful, Dr Fox, any reference to the Hartlepool Wetherspoons leaves you open to a charge of being sneering bourgeoisie. From people who themselves haven't been to Hartlepool or indeed a Wetherspoons.
Your answer to an argument with my wife, my car breaking down or a bad day at work would be "more Europe".
Are you actually that fanatical, or do you think that if you simply repeat "more Europe" often enough to me that it'll somehow seep into my subconscious and I'll somehow subliminally become a europhile before I even realise it's happened?
You're already a Europhile.
You're one of Juncker's fifth columnists who are intent on delivering Ted Heath's vision.
It would be very impressive if he's able to control Trump's internet access without Trump realising it.
He’s been pretty impressive as getting rid of those around him so far. Pretty much only Kushner left now, of all his initial appointments as advisors only six months ago.
Just so I understand.....Mrs May, who is so preternaturally incompetent that she can't get Immigration numbers down is simultaneously so incredibly wily & devious she gets a body over which she has no control to manipulate the figures to make her look bad?
"It happened on my watch" means "I take responsibility not because I was personally at fault but because it is inherent in the position I hold that I am liable for the actions of others as well as myself". Collective cabinet responsibility being what it is, it applies every bit as much to Vince as it does to May in this context. What a silly man he is.
' The universities have argued strongly over the years that overseas student bring economic benefits, have a big impact on the fee revenue at many institutions and that it was wrong to include them in official immigration figures. '
So how does removing students from migration figures change net migration ?
I keep asking this but nobody ever gives an answer.
It apparently doesn't..
It does seem that its people who aren't concerned about the effects of immigration who are advocating this - perhaps in the belief that if the migration numbers are somehow changed then concern about immigration would end.
Which rather misses the point - the people concerned about immigration are concerned because of the effects it has on their lives and not because of what the migration figures are.
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
As a regular Champions League watcher of my team, (who are sitting it out this season) I think Spurs have a nice draw. The group stages are seriously boring when you play Basel, Ludogrets, Anderlecht, Maribor etc. Spurs fans get to see their team play the best side in Europe twice, plus a very good team in Dortmund.
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
As a regular Champions League watcher of my team, (who are sitting it out this season) I think Spurs have a nice draw. The group stages are seriously boring when you play Basel, Ludogrets, Anderlecht, Maribor etc. Spurs fans get to see their team play the best side in Europe twice, plus a very good team in Dortmund.
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Us supporters of other teams are happy to play the best sides in Europe at a somewhat later stage in the competition. Sometime around May would be nice!
' Slovakian man, 49, and woman, 45, arrested on suspicion of slavery offences as 20 men located in investigation into exploitation of eastern European workers
Two people have been arrested after 20 suspected victims of modern slavery were located in the West Midlands.
Police said the 20 men, who were mainly from Slovakia and Romania, were discovered as part of an investigation into the exploitation of eastern European workers for cheap labour.
Raids were carried out at three restaurants. Modern slavery warrants were executed simultaneously at Ming Moon in Wolverhampton, Wing Wah in Coventry and Red Leaf in West Bromwich at 8am on Tuesday. An associated address in Handsworth was also raided.
Twelve suspected slavery victims were found at the premises in Coventry, five in Wolverhampton and three in Handsworth. '
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
As a regular Champions League watcher of my team, (who are sitting it out this season) I think Spurs have a nice draw. The group stages are seriously boring when you play Basel, Ludogrets, Anderlecht, Maribor etc. Spurs fans get to see their team play the best side in Europe twice, plus a very good team in Dortmund.
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Us supporters of other teams are happy to play the best sides in Europe at a somewhat later stage in the competition. Sometime around May would be nice!
Playing the minnows is like playing West Brom or Stoke. No upside, and always the fear of a slip up. Usually sterile atmosphere and boring football. Spurs fans have 4 great ties to look forward to, and still have a decent chance of progress. The group stages are shite!
@NickPalmer：Yes, that's an interesting article. They say essentially that British policy is oriented to leaving in name only, and that the tabloids and Leave voters haven't yet woken up to it. They conclude that either Britain will remain effectively members, or the government will need to be replaced by one that's serious about leaving. And that isn't really going to happen.
Although I now realise that both Remainers and Leavers don't want change, and in the case of Leavers don't expect it, it doesn't mean there will be none. There will be change but we won't be in control of it. We will not do anything serious to enact it and it will be largely up to other parties, especially the EU, the degree to which it can be mitigated.
Interesting thoughts, but I don't think that the Leavers anticipate no change, but that they expect to keep the benefits of EU membership without costs. The leading Leaver politicians don't want much change, but the man in the Hartlepool Wetherspoons does. I can see problems ahead due to that.
Will Leaverstan be a better place in 10 years time? I think that very unlikely.
Careful, Dr Fox, any reference to the Hartlepool Wetherspoons leaves you open to a charge of being sneering bourgeoisie. From people who themselves haven't been to Hartlepool or indeed a Wetherspoons.
Funnily enough I have just come back from Hartlepool and am a regular at Wetherspoons, although not that particular one, but am a Remoaner. Where did I go wrong?
Are you actually that fanatical, or do you think that if you simply repeat "more Europe" often enough to me that it'll somehow seep into my subconscious and I'll somehow subliminally become a europhile before I even realise it's happened?
Yes, the Juncker's Witnesses have profiled you as being susceptible to Euronationalism: unfulfilled patriotism, wanting to stand tall in the world but to limit the power of the state.
@NickPalmer：Yes, that's an interesting article. They say essentially that British policy is oriented to leaving in name only, and that the tabloids and Leave voters haven't yet woken up to it. They conclude that either Britain will remain effectively members, or the government will need to be replaced by one that's serious about leaving. And that isn't really going to happen.
Although I now realise that both Remainers and Leavers don't want change, and in the case of Leavers don't expect it, it doesn't mean there will be none. There will be change but we won't be in control of it. We will not do anything serious to enact it and it will be largely up to other parties, especially the EU, the degree to which it can be mitigated.
Interesting thoughts, but I don't think that the Leavers anticipate no change, but that they expect to keep the benefits of EU membership without costs. The leading Leaver politicians don't want much change, but the man in the Hartlepool Wetherspoons does. I can see problems ahead due to that.
Will Leaverstan be a better place in 10 years time? I think that very unlikely.
Careful, Dr Fox, any reference to the Hartlepool Wetherspoons leaves you open to a charge of being sneering bourgeoisie. From people who themselves haven't been to Hartlepool or indeed a Wetherspoons.
Funnily enough I have just come back from Hartlepool and am a regular at Wetherspoons, although not that particular one, but am a Remoaner. Where did I go wrong?
Some Weatherspoons are really quite nice it depends where they are. But watching the Brits on benefits drawing their money out on pay day from the cash machines in some outlets gives the game away
' Slovakian man, 49, and woman, 45, arrested on suspicion of slavery offences as 20 men located in investigation into exploitation of eastern European workers
Two people have been arrested after 20 suspected victims of modern slavery were located in the West Midlands.
Police said the 20 men, who were mainly from Slovakia and Romania, were discovered as part of an investigation into the exploitation of eastern European workers for cheap labour.
Raids were carried out at three restaurants. Modern slavery warrants were executed simultaneously at Ming Moon in Wolverhampton, Wing Wah in Coventry and Red Leaf in West Bromwich at 8am on Tuesday. An associated address in Handsworth was also raided.
Twelve suspected slavery victims were found at the premises in Coventry, five in Wolverhampton and three in Handsworth. '
There are doubtless similar cases in takeaways all over the country. Not to mention the building sites, farms and 'nail bars'.
Did anyone really imagine that this was Britain's future when we were told that 'things can only get better' twenty years ago ?
You do yourself no favours quoting from papers that hate the EU like The Guardian. Use a source that challenges your bias!
Further down in that Guardian article:
' Between May 2016 and April 2017 West Midlands police recorded 208 slavery offences, up from just over 100 in the previous year, with more than 40 people arrested. '
I dare say there are rather more slavery cases which are not discovered. But how many ? 10x ? 100x ? 1000x ? Who knows ? But there might be tens of thousands of people closely connected to modern slavery in the West Midlands alone.
But it does put into perspective the priorities of the statue opponents, whose nice middle class lifestyles are in many ways dependent upon modern slavery both here and abroad.
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
As a regular Champions League watcher of my team, (who are sitting it out this season) I think Spurs have a nice draw. The group stages are seriously boring when you play Basel, Ludogrets, Anderlecht, Maribor etc. Spurs fans get to see their team play the best side in Europe twice, plus a very good team in Dortmund.
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Us supporters of other teams are happy to play the best sides in Europe at a somewhat later stage in the competition. Sometime around May would be nice!
Playing the minnows is like playing West Brom or Stoke. No upside, and always the fear of a slip up. Usually sterile atmosphere and boring football. Spurs fans have 4 great ties to look forward to, and still have a decent chance of progress. The group stages are shite!
Urm, would that be the West Brom who are 3rd in the table? *innocent face*
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
As a regular Champions League watcher of my team, (who are sitting it out this season) I think Spurs have a nice draw. The group stages are seriously boring when you play Basel, Ludogrets, Anderlecht, Maribor etc. Spurs fans get to see their team play the best side in Europe twice, plus a very good team in Dortmund.
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Us supporters of other teams are happy to play the best sides in Europe at a somewhat later stage in the competition. Sometime around May would be nice!
Playing the minnows is like playing West Brom or Stoke. No upside, and always the fear of a slip up. Usually sterile atmosphere and boring football. Spurs fans have 4 great ties to look forward to, and still have a decent chance of progress. The group stages are shite!
My format would be:
8 groups of four with only the group winners progressing. 2 groups of four with the groups winners playing in the final. If the scores are level after extra time in the final, the team to have (in this order) won the most points, won the most games, got the best goal difference, scored the most goals in the group stage wins the cup.
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
As a regular Champions League watcher of my team, (who are sitting it out this season) I think Spurs have a nice draw. The group stages are seriously boring when you play Basel, Ludogrets, Anderlecht, Maribor etc. Spurs fans get to see their team play the best side in Europe twice, plus a very good team in Dortmund.
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Us supporters of other teams are happy to play the best sides in Europe at a somewhat later stage in the competition. Sometime around May would be nice!
Playing the minnows is like playing West Brom or Stoke. No upside, and always the fear of a slip up. Usually sterile atmosphere and boring football. Spurs fans have 4 great ties to look forward to, and still have a decent chance of progress. The group stages are shite!
In European football Spurs are the equivalent of West Brom or Stoke.
@NickPalmer：Yes, that's an interesting article. They say essentially that British policy is oriented to leaving in name only, and that the tabloids and Leave voters haven't yet woken up to it. They conclude that either Britain will remain effectively members, or the government will need to be replaced by one that's serious about leaving. And that isn't really going to happen.
Although I now realise that both Remainers and Leavers don't want change, and in the case of Leavers don't expect it, it doesn't mean there will be none. There will be change but we won't be in control of it. We will not do anything serious to enact it and it will be largely up to other parties, especially the EU, the degree to which it can be mitigated.
Interesting thoughts, but I don't think that the Leavers anticipate no change, but that they expect to keep the benefits of EU membership without costs. The leading Leaver politicians don't want much change, but the man in the Hartlepool Wetherspoons does. I can see problems ahead due to that.
Will Leaverstan be a better place in 10 years time? I think that very unlikely.
Careful, Dr Fox, any reference to the Hartlepool Wetherspoons leaves you open to a charge of being sneering bourgeoisie. From people who themselves haven't been to Hartlepool or indeed a Wetherspoons.
Funnily enough I have just come back from Hartlepool and am a regular at Wetherspoons, although not that particular one, but am a Remoaner. Where did I go wrong?
Some Weatherspoons are really quite nice it depends where they are. But watching the Brits on benefits drawing their money out on pay day from the cash machines in some outlets gives the game away
I can't say I've ever seen that myself - I must frequent the wrong sort of Weatherspoons
@NickPalmer：Yes, that's an interesting article. They say essentially that British policy is oriented to leaving in name only, and that the tabloids and Leave voters haven't yet woken up to it. They conclude that either Britain will remain effectively members, or the government will need to be replaced by one that's serious about leaving. And that isn't really going to happen.
Although I now realise that both Remainers and Leavers don't want change, and in the case of Leavers don't expect it, it doesn't mean there will be none. There will be change but we won't be in control of it. We will not do anything serious to enact it and it will be largely up to other parties, especially the EU, the degree to which it can be mitigated.
Interesting thoughts, but I don't think that the Leavers anticipate no change, but that they expect to keep the benefits of EU membership without costs. The leading Leaver politicians don't want much change, but the man in the Hartlepool Wetherspoons does. I can see problems ahead due to that.
Will Leaverstan be a better place in 10 years time? I think that very unlikely.
Careful, Dr Fox, any reference to the Hartlepool Wetherspoons leaves you open to a charge of being sneering bourgeoisie. From people who themselves haven't been to Hartlepool or indeed a Wetherspoons.
Funnily enough I have just come back from Hartlepool and am a regular at Wetherspoons, although not that particular one, but am a Remoaner. Where did I go wrong?
Some Weatherspoons are really quite nice it depends where they are. But watching the Brits on benefits drawing their money out on pay day from the cash machines in some outlets gives the game away
@NickPalmer：Yes, that's an interesting article. They say essentially that British policy is oriented to leaving in name only, and that the tabloids and Leave voters haven't yet woken up to it. They conclude that either Britain will remain effectively members, or the government will need to be replaced by one that's serious about leaving. And that isn't really going to happen.
Although I now realise that both Remainers and Leavers don't want change, and in the case of Leavers don't expect it, it doesn't mean there will be none. There will be change but we won't be in control of it. We will not do anything serious to enact it and it will be largely up to other parties, especially the EU, the degree to which it can be mitigated.
Interesting thoughts, but I don't think that the Leavers anticipate no change, but that they expect to keep the benefits of EU membership without costs. The leading Leaver politicians don't want much change, but the man in the Hartlepool Wetherspoons does. I can see problems ahead due to that.
Will Leaverstan be a better place in 10 years time? I think that very unlikely.
Careful, Dr Fox, any reference to the Hartlepool Wetherspoons leaves you open to a charge of being sneering bourgeoisie. From people who themselves haven't been to Hartlepool or indeed a Wetherspoons.
Funnily enough I have just come back from Hartlepool and am a regular at Wetherspoons, although not that particular one, but am a Remoaner. Where did I go wrong?
Some Weatherspoons are really quite nice it depends where they are. But watching the Brits on benefits drawing their money out on pay day from the cash machines in some outlets gives the game away
I can't say I've ever seen that myself - I must frequent the wrong sort of Weatherspoons
But how do you know that they're on benefits ?
Because it always on a Thusday at 11 in the morning that they started queing uo. Might be nistaken as it could have been the day that Westlands paid their employees so am guilty of jumping to conclusions
@NickPalmer：Yes, that's an interesting article. They say essentially that British policy is oriented to leaving in name only, and that the tabloids and Leave voters haven't yet woken up to it. They conclude that either Britain will remain effectively members, or the government will need to be replaced by one that's serious about leaving. And that isn't really going to happen.
Although I now realise that both Remainers and Leavers don't want change, and in the case of Leavers don't expect it, it doesn't mean there will be none. There will be change but we won't be in control of it. We will not do anything serious to enact it and it will be largely up to other parties, especially the EU, the degree to which it can be mitigated.
Interesting thoughts, but I don't think that the Leavers anticipate no change, but that they expect to keep the benefits of EU membership without costs. The leading Leaver politicians don't want much change, but the man in the Hartlepool Wetherspoons does. I can see problems ahead due to that.
Will Leaverstan be a better place in 10 years time? I think that very unlikely.
Careful, Dr Fox, any reference to the Hartlepool Wetherspoons leaves you open to a charge of being sneering bourgeoisie. From people who themselves haven't been to Hartlepool or indeed a Wetherspoons.
Funnily enough I have just come back from Hartlepool and am a regular at Wetherspoons, although not that particular one, but am a Remoaner. Where did I go wrong?
Some Weatherspoons are really quite nice it depends where they are. But watching the Brits on benefits drawing their money out on pay day from the cash machines in some outlets gives the game away
That post says a lot about you.
Probably true, it was an unsubtle attempt to say that benefits are abused by many sectors of society but i could have done better, now regret the post.
"It happened on my watch" means "I take responsibility not because I was personally at fault but because it is inherent in the position I hold that I am liable for the actions of others as well as myself". Collective cabinet responsibility being what it is, it applies every bit as much to Vince as it does to May in this context. What a silly man he is.
But Mrs May was always very careful to keep the Home Office away from "collective responsibility", wasn`t she' Or have I got that wrong?
In a few minutes SpaceX are attempting a launch - and recovery - of a rocket. Watch live here:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4u3ZN2g_MI
Nailed the landing again. This is getting very routine.
It'll never be routine for me. More than twenty years ago I followed the DCX-Clipper, and then Armadillo Aerospace (RIP) and Masten; it's amazing to think all that promise has been fulfilled.
In a few minutes SpaceX are attempting a launch - and recovery - of a rocket. Watch live here:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4u3ZN2g_MI
Nailed the landing again. This is getting very routine.
It'll never be routine for me. More than twenty years ago I followed the DCX-Clipper, and then Armadillo Aerospace (RIP) and Masten; it's amazing to think all that promise has been fulfilled.
I'm fascinated by all space exploration. I was slightly too young to appreciate Apollo 11, was a keen follower of the Space Shuttle, and the death of SkyLab but I'm worried now I'm 50 that I may not see Man's push to visit the Moon again, or make the leap to Mars. I might see the death of internal combustion cars, though!
I suspect the ONS would say that the confidence intervals around the quarterly figures are very large, but I still think they are interesting to look at.
The key things to note are that immigration in July-September 2016 was down considerably compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, the fall in non-EU immigration was double the fall in EU migration.
There was a smaller fall in immigration in October-December 2016 compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, non-EU immigration was up compared with the year before.
And there was virtually no change to immigration in the first three months of 2017 compared with the first three months of 2016. Interestingly, immigration from the Romania and Bulgaria did not fall immediately. However, it has fallen in both of the last two publications.
As for the outflow figures, there was an immediate reaction from those from the EU8 (Poland etc), and then a later reaction from the EU15 (Germany etc). The first three months of this year, however, have seen very little change compared with the same time in 2016.
So if we continue to see migration rates similar to those recorded before the vote to leave the EU, the annual rate will remain at a net of 250k before increasing back towards 300k+ later in 2017.
' Slovakian man, 49, and woman, 45, arrested on suspicion of slavery offences as 20 men located in investigation into exploitation of eastern European workers
Two people have been arrested after 20 suspected victims of modern slavery were located in the West Midlands.
Police said the 20 men, who were mainly from Slovakia and Romania, were discovered as part of an investigation into the exploitation of eastern European workers for cheap labour.
Raids were carried out at three restaurants. Modern slavery warrants were executed simultaneously at Ming Moon in Wolverhampton, Wing Wah in Coventry and Red Leaf in West Bromwich at 8am on Tuesday. An associated address in Handsworth was also raided.
Twelve suspected slavery victims were found at the premises in Coventry, five in Wolverhampton and three in Handsworth. '
There are doubtless similar cases in takeaways all over the country. Not to mention the building sites, farms and 'nail bars'.
Did anyone really imagine that this was Britain's future when we were told that 'things can only get better' twenty years ago ?
You do yourself no favours quoting from papers that hate the EU like The Guardian. Use a source that challenges your bias!
Further down in that Guardian article:
' Between May 2016 and April 2017 West Midlands police recorded 208 slavery offences, up from just over 100 in the previous year, with more than 40 people arrested. '
I dare say there are rather more slavery cases which are not discovered. But how many ? 10x ? 100x ? 1000x ? Who knows ? But there might be tens of thousands of people closely connected to modern slavery in the West Midlands alone.
But it does put into perspective the priorities of the statue opponents, whose nice middle class lifestyles are in many ways dependent upon modern slavery both here and abroad.
Ursula Le Guin - Those who walk away from Omelas... please read!
In a few minutes SpaceX are attempting a launch - and recovery - of a rocket. Watch live here:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4u3ZN2g_MI
Nailed the landing again. This is getting very routine.
It'll never be routine for me. More than twenty years ago I followed the DCX-Clipper, and then Armadillo Aerospace (RIP) and Masten; it's amazing to think all that promise has been fulfilled.
Just watch this baby: ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv9n9Casp1o
Very good, not seen that before. Yes, what SpaceX are doing is quite amazing, they’re recovering almost every first stage and have started to refly them. If they can get the turnaround process done quickly it will be revolutionary for the future of space flight.
Unfortunately their service involves pre-cremation on earth, which is understandable for weight/cost reasons, but nowhere near as fun.
Hopefully (especially now with reusable stage 1's), over the next half century, the cost will come down far enough for me to afford to have my entire undecomposed cadaver strapped on top of a stage 2 and pointed at the sun.
I suspect the ONS would say that the confidence intervals around the quarterly figures are very large, but I still think they are interesting to look at.
The key things to note are that immigration in July-September 2016 was down considerably compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, the fall in non-EU immigration was double the fall in EU migration.
There was a smaller fall in immigration in October-December 2016 compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, non-EU immigration was up compared with the year before.
And there was virtually no change to immigration in the first three months of 2017 compared with the first three months of 2016. Interestingly, immigration from the Romania and Bulgaria did not fall immediately. However, it has fallen in both of the last two publications.
As for the outflow figures, there was an immediate reaction from those from the EU8 (Poland etc), and then a later reaction from the EU15 (Germany etc). The first three months of this year, however, have seen very little change compared with the same time in 2016.
So if we continue to see migration rates similar to those recorded before the vote to leave the EU, the annual rate will remain at a net of 250k before increasing back towards 300k+ later in 2017.
How do they collect the data? Not sure how they know who has come in to live and who has left? Genuine question no point scoring!
Just so I understand.....Mrs May, who is so preternaturally incompetent that she can't get Immigration numbers down is simultaneously so incredibly wily & devious she gets a body over which she has no control to manipulate the figures to make her look bad?
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
As a regular Champions League watcher of my team, (who are sitting it out this season) I think Spurs have a nice draw. The group stages are seriously boring when you play Basel, Ludogrets, Anderlecht, Maribor etc. Spurs fans get to see their team play the best side in Europe twice, plus a very good team in Dortmund.
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Looks like a good opportunity to win the Europa Cup to me. But Real and Dortmund are great ties. As you say, Spurs were never going to go all the way.
I suspect the ONS would say that the confidence intervals around the quarterly figures are very large, but I still think they are interesting to look at.
The key things to note are that immigration in July-September 2016 was down considerably compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, the fall in non-EU immigration was double the fall in EU migration.
There was a smaller fall in immigration in October-December 2016 compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, non-EU immigration was up compared with the year before.
And there was virtually no change to immigration in the first three months of 2017 compared with the first three months of 2016. Interestingly, immigration from the Romania and Bulgaria did not fall immediately. However, it has fallen in both of the last two publications.
As for the outflow figures, there was an immediate reaction from those from the EU8 (Poland etc), and then a later reaction from the EU15 (Germany etc). The first three months of this year, however, have seen very little change compared with the same time in 2016.
So if we continue to see migration rates similar to those recorded before the vote to leave the EU, the annual rate will remain at a net of 250k before increasing back towards 300k+ later in 2017.
How do they collect the data? Not sure how they know who has come in to live and who has left? Genuine question no point scoring!
They use something called the International Passenger Survey. There are ONS desks at Heathrow T5 but I've never seen anyone working there. For more information see here:
According to the guardian all this police activity is just racialist...I have no idea why all these businesses feel the need to board up their stores.
It’s definitely because they’re racist, and nothing at all to do with the long history of theft and damage to property over the carnival weekend.
I have no idea why you are talking about...Every year at Glastonbury they get mass stabbings and gang fights...And have to send the worst of the corbynistas on £1000 jollies to keep them from attending.
In a few minutes SpaceX are attempting a launch - and recovery - of a rocket. Watch live here:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4u3ZN2g_MI
Nailed the landing again. This is getting very routine.
It'll never be routine for me. More than twenty years ago I followed the DCX-Clipper, and then Armadillo Aerospace (RIP) and Masten; it's amazing to think all that promise has been fulfilled.
I'm fascinated by all space exploration. I was slightly too young to appreciate Apollo 11, was a keen follower of the Space Shuttle, and the death of SkyLab but I'm worried now I'm 50 that I may not see Man's push to visit the Moon again, or make the leap to Mars. I might see the death of internal combustion cars, though!
I just missed the last manned Moon landings by a few months. No-one has walked on the Moon in my lifetime.
IMV in the next few years there will be another space race for the Moon. China have been making noises, and have been developing suitable heavy-lift rockets. Their Long March 9 will have about the same lift as the old Saturn V, and there's little need for such heavy rockets except for manned exploration.
Manned to Mars is probably imminently outside China's capabilities at the moment as they have far less experience in manned spaceflight than the US and Russia (and it's probably beyond them as well). Therefore the Moon seems a good target for China to gain international prestige.
Also IMV, this is why the US is building their hideously expensive SLS rocket systems. If they have a heavy-lift rocket, they'll be able to compete with the Chinese in a race. Without it, they do not.
Expect man back on the Moon by 2025, either by China, the US, or private companies. Mars will not be before 2030 IMO, sadly. Musk may say more about that at the end of next month.
Unfortunately their service involves pre-cremation on earth, which is understandable for weight/cost reasons, but nowhere near as fun.
Hopefully (especially now with reusable stage 1's), over the next half century, the cost will come down far enough for me to afford to have my entire undecomposed cadaver strapped on top of a stage 2 and pointed at the sun.
Exciting times!
SpaceX are currently running at about $2,000 a kilo to low earth orbit, but every time they successfully land a first stage the cost comes down for the future.
According to the guardian all this police activity is just racialist...I have no idea why all these businesses feel the need to board up their stores.
It’s definitely because they’re racist, and nothing at all to do with the long history of theft and damage to property over the carnival weekend.
Well according to the news the met have run at least a four week campaign leading uo to the carnival to remove potential problems targeting drug dealers and pickpockets so better to nip itin the bud than risk unnecceasry conflict on the street
Unfortunately their service involves pre-cremation on earth, which is understandable for weight/cost reasons, but nowhere near as fun.
Hopefully (especially now with reusable stage 1's), over the next half century, the cost will come down far enough for me to afford to have my entire undecomposed cadaver strapped on top of a stage 2 and pointed at the sun.
I suspect the ONS would say that the confidence intervals around the quarterly figures are very large, but I still think they are interesting to look at.
The key things to note are that immigration in July-September 2016 was down considerably compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, the fall in non-EU immigration was double the fall in EU migration.
There was a smaller fall in immigration in October-December 2016 compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, non-EU immigration was up compared with the year before.
And there was virtually no change to immigration in the first three months of 2017 compared with the first three months of 2016. Interestingly, immigration from the Romania and Bulgaria did not fall immediately. However, it has fallen in both of the last two publications.
As for the outflow figures, there was an immediate reaction from those from the EU8 (Poland etc), and then a later reaction from the EU15 (Germany etc). The first three months of this year, however, have seen very little change compared with the same time in 2016.
So if we continue to see migration rates similar to those recorded before the vote to leave the EU, the annual rate will remain at a net of 250k before increasing back towards 300k+ later in 2017.
How do they collect the data? Not sure how they know who has come in to live and who has left? Genuine question no point scoring!
They use something called the International Passenger Survey. There are ONS desks at Heathrow T5 but I've never seen anyone working there. For more information see here:
My own experience is the ONS gets the data they are willing to pay for. Working for 14 years for a market research compny it was not worth bidding for the crime statistics aurvey because they eouldn't pay for relaible data, there are one or two stats which i believe knowimg how the data is collected.
Interesting snippet from the latest PPP poll, Trump voters say they would rather have had the former Confederacy President Jefferson Davis as their President than Barack Obama by 45/20. Obama wins that question 56/21 with the overall electorate. At the moment Trump truly is the President of the old Confederacy
Can't remember, I think I said PB was boring now, so someone challenged me to leave, and I made a very theatrical PBrexit.
It's good to have you back, mate, the place needs livening up. At the minute, it's all EU Nazis and Brexit Jihadis.
And rockets!
(I could talk about my visit with the little 'un and a friend to the Nene Valley Railway today, but that would involve mentioning continental-gauge locos and carriages which, under Brexit, should be immediately transported back across the Channel).
In a few minutes SpaceX are attempting a launch - and recovery - of a rocket. Watch live here:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4u3ZN2g_MI
Nailed the landing again. This is getting very routine.
It'll never be routine for me. More than twenty years ago I followed the DCX-Clipper, and then Armadillo Aerospace (RIP) and Masten; it's amazing to think all that promise has been fulfilled.
I'm fascinated by all space exploration. I was slightly too young to appreciate Apollo 11, was a keen follower of the Space Shuttle, and the death of SkyLab but I'm worried now I'm 50 that I may not see Man's push to visit the Moon again, or make the leap to Mars. I might see the death of internal combustion cars, though!
I just missed the last manned Moon landings by a few months. No-one has walked on the Moon in my lifetime.
IMV in the next few years there will be another space race for the Moon. China have been making noises, and have been developing suitable heavy-lift rockets. Their Long March 9 will have about the same lift as the old Saturn V, and there's little need for such heavy rockets except for manned exploration.
Manned to Mars is probably imminently outside China's capabilities at the moment as they have far less experience in manned spaceflight than the US and Russia (and it's probably beyond them as well). Therefore the Moon seems a good target for China to gain international prestige.
Also IMV, this is why the US is building their hideously expensive SLS rocket systems. If they have a heavy-lift rocket, they'll be able to compete with the Chinese in a race. Without it, they do not.
Expect man back on the Moon by 2025, either by China, the US, or private companies. Mars will not be before 2030 IMO, sadly. Musk may say more about that at the end of next month.
Never mind the moon, I think that means no one has been further out than low earth orbit in your lifetime, and saying LEO is space is is a bit like going to the top floor of your house and standing on a chair and saying you are in space.
Can't remember, I think I said PB was boring now, so someone challenged me to leave, and I made a very theatrical PBrexit.
The problem is post cgnative dissonence reduction, we make a decision and then spend our lives trying to justify it, nobody is convincing anyone thet their leave remain argument was wrong. It will be years before we know but it serves no purpose. lLets leave people with their views and come back in five years to discuss the reality.
Unfortunately their service involves pre-cremation on earth, which is understandable for weight/cost reasons, but nowhere near as fun.
Hopefully (especially now with reusable stage 1's), over the next half century, the cost will come down far enough for me to afford to have my entire undecomposed cadaver strapped on top of a stage 2 and pointed at the sun.
In a few minutes SpaceX are attempting a launch - and recovery - of a rocket. Watch live here:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4u3ZN2g_MI
Nailed the landing again. This is getting very routine.
It'll never be routine for me. More than twenty years ago I followed the DCX-Clipper, and then Armadillo Aerospace (RIP) and Masten; it's amazing to think all that promise has been fulfilled.
I'm fascinated by all space exploration. I was slightly too young to appreciate Apollo 11, was a keen follower of the Space Shuttle, and the death of SkyLab but I'm worried now I'm 50 that I may not see Man's push to visit the Moon again, or make the leap to Mars. I might see the death of internal combustion cars, though!
I just missed the last manned Moon landings by a few months. No-one has walked on the Moon in my lifetime.
IMV in the next few years there will be another space race for the Moon. China have been making noises, and have been developing suitable heavy-lift rockets. Their Long March 9 will have about the same lift as the old Saturn V, and there's little need for such heavy rockets except for manned exploration.
Manned to Mars is probably imminently outside China's capabilities at the moment as they have far less experience in manned spaceflight than the US and Russia (and it's probably beyond them as well). Therefore the Moon seems a good target for China to gain international prestige.
Also IMV, this is why the US is building their hideously expensive SLS rocket systems. If they have a heavy-lift rocket, they'll be able to compete with the Chinese in a race. Without it, they do not.
Expect man back on the Moon by 2025, either by China, the US, or private companies. Mars will not be before 2030 IMO, sadly. Musk may say more about that at the end of next month.
I know two people who are truly convinced that the moon landings were faked & never happened. Yet ISTR that many amateur astronomers followed the action closely.
North Korea has released a series of photos that may reveal a new design for an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) more powerful than any it has previously tested, weapons experts warn.
If developed, such a missile could possibly reach any place on the US mainland, including Washington and New York, the experts told Reuters.
Of all the places in the world for northern Korean spies to try and blend in, I can't think of many worse than the Ukraine.
There are definitely Russian Koreans, I worked with one a couple of jobs back. Wikipedia says there are about half-a-million across the former USSR with about 13,000 in Ukraine.
North Korea has released a series of photos that may reveal a new design for an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) more powerful than any it has previously tested, weapons experts warn.
If developed, such a missile could possibly reach any place on the US mainland, including Washington and New York, the experts told Reuters.
I fully appreciate the gravity of the situation, but can never see footage of NK leaders without having flash backs to the Kim Il/Hans Blix scene in Team America, and Blix telling him that if he doesn't let him inspect the palace, he'll be very angry with him, and write him a letter telling him how angry he is.
Of all the places in the world for northern Korean spies to try and blend in, I can't think of many worse than the Ukraine.
There are definitely Russian Koreans, I worked with one a couple of jobs back. Wikipedia says there are about half-a-million across the former USSR with about 13,000 in Ukraine.
That is extremely surprising...You learn something new everyday.
Juve, Barca and Olympiakos in Group D. Here's Celtic....
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
No Sporting Lisbon were the 4th Group D team, Celtic aren't Group D. Celtic are Group B with Bayern Munich, PSG and Anderlecht.
Celtic won't be going far then this year....
Woophs my mistake I misread the BBC feed. As you say different teams, same result.
Full draw: Group A Benfica, Man Utd, Basel, CSKA Moscow Group B Bayern Munich, PSG, Anderlecht, Celtic Group C Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Roma, Qarabag Group D Juventus, Barcelona, Olympiakos, Sporting Group E Spartak Moscow, Sevilla, Liverpool, Maribor Group F Shakhtar, Man City, Napoli, Feyenoord Group G Monaco, Porto, Besiktas, RB Leipzig Group H Real Madrid, Dortmund, Tottenham, APOEL
As a regular Champions League watcher of my team, (who are sitting it out this season) I think Spurs have a nice draw. The group stages are seriously boring when you play Basel, Ludogrets, Anderlecht, Maribor etc. Spurs fans get to see their team play the best side in Europe twice, plus a very good team in Dortmund.
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Looks like a good opportunity to win the Europa Cup to me. But Real and Dortmund are great ties. As you say, Spurs were never going to go all the way.
As an Arsenal fan I can honestly say I am not going to miss the Group Stages, but I do miss that flicker of hope that we might win it. You've got to be in it for that though!
Can't remember, I think I said PB was boring now, so someone challenged me to leave, and I made a very theatrical PBrexit.
It's good to have you back, mate, the place needs livening up. At the minute, it's all EU Nazis and Brexit Jihadis.
PB's going to get even more boring in September.
Mike's taking a holiday and as well all know, nothing ever happens when Mike's abroad.
So, Trump is getting impeached, Brexit is cancelled, and hello PM Corbyn, then?
Unlikely but we do have the German and New Zealand elections next month
And also Theresa's long walk of shame at the conference.
She will still get the obligatory standing ovation, though they will want some sort of apology. She is safe until mid 2019 then she will go and Boris and Davis will likely fight it out to succeed her
Of all the places in the world for northern Korean spies to try and blend in, I can't think of many worse than the Ukraine.
There are definitely Russian Koreans, I worked with one a couple of jobs back. Wikipedia says there are about half-a-million across the former USSR with about 13,000 in Ukraine.
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You're one of Juncker's fifth columnists who are intent on delivering Ted Heath's vision.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2016/10/18/the-brexiteers-junckers-fifth-columnists/
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/donald-trump-rick-dearborn-email-russia-investigation/index.html
Student enters Britain = immigrant
Student leaves Britain = emigrant
So how does removing students from migration figures change net migration ?
I keep asking this but nobody ever gives an answer.
The Maginot Line????
https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/900695189412511744
When they finish their studies we should happily give visas to those who get the offer of a graduate trainee place in the professions, but not so much those who want to go and work for uncle’s taxi firm in Rotherham.
' Slovakian man, 49, and woman, 45, arrested on suspicion of slavery offences as 20 men located in investigation into exploitation of eastern European workers
Two people have been arrested after 20 suspected victims of modern slavery were located in the West Midlands.
Police said the 20 men, who were mainly from Slovakia and Romania, were discovered as part of an investigation into the exploitation of eastern European workers for cheap labour.
Raids were carried out at three restaurants. Modern slavery warrants were executed simultaneously at Ming Moon in Wolverhampton, Wing Wah in Coventry and Red Leaf in West Bromwich at 8am on Tuesday. An associated address in Handsworth was also raided.
Twelve suspected slavery victims were found at the premises in Coventry, five in Wolverhampton and three in Handsworth. '
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/aug/23/modern-slavery-20-suspected-victims-found-in-west-midlands
There are doubtless similar cases in takeaways all over the country. Not to mention the building sites, farms and 'nail bars'.
Did anyone really imagine that this was Britain's future when we were told that 'things can only get better' twenty years ago ?
That's Vince's argument?
Which rather misses the point - the people concerned about immigration are concerned because of the effects it has on their lives and not because of what the migration figures are.
Insecticide infested eggs, or Hepatitis infected pork is fine....but chlorine! I'll be drinking water next....
The were 33/1 to win it before the draw, so not v likely at all. I think they should be happy. The exciting part of being a fan is watching your team against the very best, not playing Euro minnows.
Take Telford;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_(UK_Parliament_constituency)
Both Lab & Con turned out an extra 5700 voters.
Majority: unchanged
I'm sure it's seeping in just a little bit.
' Between May 2016 and April 2017 West Midlands police recorded 208 slavery offences, up from just over 100 in the previous year, with more than 40 people arrested. '
I dare say there are rather more slavery cases which are not discovered. But how many ? 10x ? 100x ? 1000x ? Who knows ? But there might be tens of thousands of people closely connected to modern slavery in the West Midlands alone.
But it does put into perspective the priorities of the statue opponents, whose nice middle class lifestyles are in many ways dependent upon modern slavery both here and abroad.
In a few minutes SpaceX are attempting a launch - and recovery - of a rocket. Watch live here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4u3ZN2g_MI
8 groups of four with only the group winners progressing.
2 groups of four with the groups winners playing in the final.
If the scores are level after extra time in the final, the team to have (in this order) won the most points, won the most games, got the best goal difference, scored the most goals in the group stage wins the cup.
But how do you know that they're on benefits ?
Just watch this baby:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv9n9Casp1o
https://1drv.ms/x/s!Av4jQcUMVtBpiBtBI6GQaRTA-_MO
I suspect the ONS would say that the confidence intervals around the quarterly figures are very large, but I still think they are interesting to look at.
The key things to note are that immigration in July-September 2016 was down considerably compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, the fall in non-EU immigration was double the fall in EU migration.
There was a smaller fall in immigration in October-December 2016 compared with the same time in 2015. Interestingly, non-EU immigration was up compared with the year before.
And there was virtually no change to immigration in the first three months of 2017 compared with the first three months of 2016. Interestingly, immigration from the Romania and Bulgaria did not fall immediately. However, it has fallen in both of the last two publications.
As for the outflow figures, there was an immediate reaction from those from the EU8 (Poland etc), and then a later reaction from the EU15 (Germany etc). The first three months of this year, however, have seen very little change compared with the same time in 2016.
So if we continue to see migration rates similar to those recorded before the vote to leave the EU, the annual rate will remain at a net of 250k before increasing back towards 300k+ later in 2017.
These guys recon they can do it for $12500;
https://www.celestis.com/experiences-pricing/
Unfortunately their service involves pre-cremation on earth, which is understandable for weight/cost reasons, but nowhere near as fun.
Hopefully (especially now with reusable stage 1's), over the next half century, the cost will come down far enough for me to afford to have my entire undecomposed cadaver strapped on top of a stage 2 and pointed at the sun.
Exciting times!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ministers-hide-report-on-migrant-numbers-dv8dbj7cz
According to the guardian all this police activity is just racialist...I have no idea why all these businesses feel the need to board up their stores.
https://tinyurl.com/ydx4gdje
IMV in the next few years there will be another space race for the Moon. China have been making noises, and have been developing suitable heavy-lift rockets. Their Long March 9 will have about the same lift as the old Saturn V, and there's little need for such heavy rockets except for manned exploration.
Manned to Mars is probably imminently outside China's capabilities at the moment as they have far less experience in manned spaceflight than the US and Russia (and it's probably beyond them as well). Therefore the Moon seems a good target for China to gain international prestige.
Also IMV, this is why the US is building their hideously expensive SLS rocket systems. If they have a heavy-lift rocket, they'll be able to compete with the Chinese in a race. Without it, they do not.
Expect man back on the Moon by 2025, either by China, the US, or private companies. Mars will not be before 2030 IMO, sadly. Musk may say more about that at the end of next month.
But getting to the Sun is really difficult: it's easier to escape the solar system:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/rockets/a21896/why-we-cant-just-launch-waste-into-the-sun/
Everything about orbital mechanics is counter-intuitive. It does my head in.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/
Mike's taking a holiday and as well all know, nothing ever happens when Mike's abroad.
(I could talk about my visit with the little 'un and a friend to the Nene Valley Railway today, but that would involve mentioning continental-gauge locos and carriages which, under Brexit, should be immediately transported back across the Channel).
https://youtu.be/8RbXIMZmVv8
And congratulations on your longest flounce to date
Good evening, everybody.
These are the stories from just today
The North Korean spies Ukraine caught stealing missile plans
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/24/europe/ukraine-north-korea-spies/index.html
North Korea has released a series of photos that may reveal a new design for an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) more powerful than any it has previously tested, weapons experts warn.
If developed, such a missile could possibly reach any place on the US mainland, including Washington and New York, the experts told Reuters.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-24/north-korea-signals-new-powerful-missile-may-be-in-the-works/8840624
North Korea leader Kim Jong Un 'killed relatives over China coup plot'
The authoritarian ruler mistrusts Beijing since learning of an alleged plan by family members to oust him with China's help.
http://news.sky.com/story/north-korea-leader-kim-jong-un-killed-relatives-over-china-coup-plot-11002869
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_heavy-lift_launch_vehicle#/media/File:SpaceX_Interplanetary_Transport_System,_Size_Comparison.svg
This might explain why the refurbishment of parliament is costing so much, and why Big Ben's been silenced. It's not just a tower ...
And which politician would you most like to see act as its test dummy pilot ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_Japanese_citizens
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/01/north-korea-abduction-robert-boynton-invitation-only-zone-book
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/28/family-david-sneddon-missing-us-student-says-north-korea-kidnapped-him.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Kyoungjong