Are Radiohead the most overrated band ever to headline Glastonbury?
Radiohead are the best band of the last 30 years. The National (playing tomorrow) are the second best.
I've tried listening to Radiohead and I just can't get into them. There was a performance on Jools Holland about 10 years ago that I liked but I can't remember what the name of the song was.
The Bends and OK Computer are both wonderful albums. I mean that in the traditional sense where the songs order and context hold together beautifully. There is also the classic politics related song electioneering
I will stop I will stop at nothing Say the right things When electioneering I trust I can rely on your vote
When I go forwards, you go backwards And somewhere we will meet When I go forwards, you go backwards And somewhere we will meet Ha, ha, ha
Riot shields Voodoo economics It's life, it's life It's just business Cattle prods and the I.M.F. I trust I can rely on your vote
Interesting. Guy on Sky News saying that there have been fires in these blocks which have been contained.
Of course there have! I keep banging on about it, when I worked in the city, we used to get a flat fire a couple of times a week, and that was just my watch. I'm genuinely confused what the rush is to evacuate tonight.
At the end of the day - if there's even a 1% chance of another Grenfell it's worth evacuating?
I don't know. People are more aware now, smoke detectors can be checked and replaced, the council's could employ security to patrol the blocks. It's got to be much more than the cladding issue.
My fire service phoned me the other day to say our smoke detectors needed changing and they offered to come and fit them but instead they sent them and I fitted them easily. I don't know if this is a service just for us oldies
We fit them for anyone who gives us a call, and we knock on doors asking as well.
The thing is I didn't call them though they had fitted them some years ago
Public sector in keeping decent records shocker!
Good on the fire service
I remember the first time they came they turned up in their fire engine
It's the task of operational crews to do the fire safety advice and fitting the smoke detectors, we don't have any spare bodies to go out and do it. We often get halfway through fitting one and have to down tools and run back to the appliance to go on a call. A pain in the arse when you're on the 8th floor of a block of flats!
In all the hundreds of thousands of wrong and ridiculous posts on PB, is that the singularly most wrong post of all time?
Without question. Even in the PB Tories' nadir, when Tim was running rings around them day after excruciating day, we never witnessed such unmitigated incorrectitude.
In all the hundreds of thousands of wrong and ridiculous posts on PB, is that the singularly most wrong post of all time?
I should be grateful that my thread header comparing Corbyn to Trump and Tsipras but concluding he would still get annihilated at an election because his policies were basically unpopular was turned down...
In all the hundreds of thousands of wrong and ridiculous posts on PB, is that the singularly most wrong post of all time?
I'm sorry you don't like them.
But let me make the case for them, from statistics.
Spotify publishes detailed data on who listens to what. Of albums older than 10 years, there are three absolute standouts in terms of playtime. And that's albums from:
The Beatles, Paul Simon / Simon & Garfunkel, and Radiohead.
Everything else is just noise. They are the only people who's music has really lasted. Of course, that won't necessarily continue, and tastes change. But it's worth noting that people who like them really, really like them.
Of course, that doesn't mean an EU demos will emerge, more likely it will break apart, or that only a portion of it (perhaps Germanic Europe and the Baltics) ends up as sort of rump EU.
Can this be read as you predicting a >50% chance that the EU as a whole will break up? The experience since the Brexit vote shows just how strong and stable the EU as a political structure is. It's a permanent feature of European politics and we cannot avoid it's influence by giving up our influence within it.
I don't think an imminent break up is likely. But the world and the EU economy will have another 2008-2015 period again at some point.
And why will the EU be less capable of weathering it than it was in 2008?
Of course next time any populist uprising will be met with a cautionary warning: Remember Brexit?
Most political unions fail to become demos. A select few endure. The EU may, or may not, be one of those that endure.
Of course, all endurance is relative. One day the last human being to even know the meaning of the words "The United Kingdom" will die.
Given such a fatalistic view of history, for what reason would you support leaving the EU given that you are well aware that a large number of your fellow travellers are nuts and that there are very real risks on many levels? Let it be.
But you and your fellow travellers are religious fundamentalists. The EU can do no wrong and integration leads us to paradise,
Just curious - given the news that 800 households are to be evacuated in one London borough alone - are people here still sanguine that this can all be managed without any difficulty? Or is it there any feeling that emergency measures may indeed need to taken?
Just curious - given the news that 800 households are to be evacuated in one London borough alone - are people here still sanguine that this can all be managed without any difficulty? Or is it there any feeling that emergency measures may indeed need to taken?
Seems the councils are acting on the government directive sent to them a few days ago
Just curious - given the news that 800 households are to be evacuated in one London borough alone - are people here still sanguine that this can all be managed without any difficulty? Or is it there any feeling that emergency measures may indeed need to taken?
Last year London grew by 330 people per day. Even at 5 people per household (double the national average) that's less than two weeks worth of growth.
Of course, that doesn't mean an EU demos will emerge, more likely it will break apart, or that only a portion of it (perhaps Germanic Europe and the Baltics) ends up as sort of rump EU.
Can this be read as you predicting a >50% chance that the EU as a whole will break up? The experience since the Brexit vote shows just how strong and stable the EU as a political structure is. It's a permanent feature of European politics and we cannot avoid it's influence by giving up our influence within it.
I don't think an imminent break up is likely. But the world and the EU economy will have another 2008-2015 period again at some point.
And why will the EU be less capable of weathering it than it was in 2008?
Of course next time any populist uprising will be met with a cautionary warning: Remember Brexit?
Most political unions fail to become demos. A select few endure. The EU may, or may not, be one of those that endure.
Of course, all endurance is relative. One day the last human being to even know the meaning of the words "The United Kingdom" will die.
Given such a fatalistic view of history, for what reason would you support leaving the EU given that you are well aware that a large number of your fellow travellers are nuts and that there are very real risks on many levels? Let it be.
Leavers and their fellow travellers are religious fundamentalists. The EU can do no right and isolation leads us to paradise,
But it's worth noting that people who like them really, really like them.
So Radiohead are like Corbyn.
Doesn't make them the greatest band of the last 30 years. Sorry.
Hmmm, one benefits from repeated listening, and the other doesn't. I'm not sure your comparison is apt.
I note that you misqouted me the other night predicting a stockmarket crash in 2015. Check the record and you'll find that I've been bullish on US stocks since May 2014. We need a slight correction right now, and we should hit some resistance when the Dow gets around the 23,000 area. But I think it's going to go to nearly 40,000........and then the trouble will come! But that is miles off yet, one heck of a phase transition into a mega bull market is setting itself up, once capital flies out of the bond market as the global sovereign debt crisis finally gets underway. I grant you the fact that its taking longer to get going than I though - it seems to be a very right translated cycle in the jargon, but get going it will.
Of course, that doesn't mean an EU demos will emerge, more likely it will break apart, or that only a portion of it (perhaps Germanic Europe and the Baltics) ends up as sort of rump EU.
Can this be read as you predicting a >50% chance that the EU as a whole will break up? The experience since the Brexit vote shows just how strong and stable the EU as a political structure is. It's a permanent feature of European politics and we cannot avoid it's influence by giving up our influence within it.
I don't think an imminent break up is likely. But the world and the EU economy will have another 2008-2015 period again at some point.
And why will the EU be less capable of weathering it than it was in 2008?
Of course next time any populist uprising will be met with a cautionary warning: Remember Brexit?
Most political unions fail to become demos. A select few endure. The EU may, or may not, be one of those that endure.
Of course, all endurance is relative. One day the last human being to even know the meaning of the words "The United Kingdom" will die.
Given such a fatalistic view of history, for what reason would you support leaving the EU given that you are well aware that a large number of your fellow travellers are nuts and that there are very real risks on many levels? Let it be.
Leavers and their fellow travellers are religious fundamentalists. The EU can do no right and isolation leads us to paradise,
Fixed for you Sean.
I wouldn't make that assertion.
But, I think that we should be ruled by a government that is accountable exclusively to our own voters, which is seen as heresy by some people.
But it's worth noting that people who like them really, really like them.
So Radiohead are like Corbyn.
Doesn't make them the greatest band of the last 30 years. Sorry.
Hmmm, one benefits from repeated listening, and the other doesn't. I'm not sure your comparison is apt.
I note that you misqouted me the other night predicting a stockmarket crash in 2015. Check the record and you'll find that I've been bullish on US stocks since May 2014. We need a slight correction right now, and we should hit some resistance when the Dow gets around the 23,000 area. But I think it's going to go to nearly 40,000........and then the trouble will come! But that is miles off yet, one heck of a phase transition into a mega bull market is setting itself up, once capital flies out of the bond market as the global sovereign debt crisis finally gets underway. I grant you the fact that its taking longer to get going than I though - it seems to be a very right translated cycle in the jargon, but get going it will.
I don't believe I did. I think I referenced your forecast of a government bond crisis lady autumn.
But it's worth noting that people who like them really, really like them.
So Radiohead are like Corbyn.
Doesn't make them the greatest band of the last 30 years. Sorry.
Hmmm, one benefits from repeated listening, and the other doesn't. I'm not sure your comparison is apt.
I note that you misqouted me the other night predicting a stockmarket crash in 2015. Check the record and you'll find that I've been bullish on US stocks since May 2014. We need a slight correction right now, and we should hit some resistance when the Dow gets around the 23,000 area. But I think it's going to go to nearly 40,000........and then the trouble will come! But that is miles off yet, one heck of a phase transition into a mega bull market is setting itself up, once capital flies out of the bond market as the global sovereign debt crisis finally gets underway. I grant you the fact that its taking longer to get going than I though - it seems to be a very right translated cycle in the jargon, but get going it will.
I don't believe I did. I think I referenced your forecast of a government bond crisis lady autumn.
But it's worth noting that people who like them really, really like them.
So Radiohead are like Corbyn.
Doesn't make them the greatest band of the last 30 years. Sorry.
Hmmm, one benefits from repeated listening, and the other doesn't. I'm not sure your comparison is apt.
I note that you misqouted me the other night predicting a stockmarket crash in 2015. Check the record and you'll find that I've been bullish on US stocks since May 2014. We need a slight correction right now, and we should hit some resistance when the Dow gets around the 23,000 area. But I think it's going to go to nearly 40,000........and then the trouble will come! But that is miles off yet, one heck of a phase transition into a mega bull market is setting itself up, once capital flies out of the bond market as the global sovereign debt crisis finally gets underway. I grant you the fact that its taking longer to get going than I though - it seems to be a very right translated cycle in the jargon, but get going it will.
I don't believe I did. I think I referenced your forecast of a government bond crisis lady autumn.
Just curious - given the news that 800 households are to be evacuated in one London borough alone - are people here still sanguine that this can all be managed without any difficulty? Or is it there any feeling that emergency measures may indeed need to taken?
Last year London grew by 330 people per day. Even at 5 people per household (double the national average) that's less than two weeks worth of growth.
But looking at it another way, are there 800 empty social dwellings in Camden? Or in other London boroughs, if Camden is not untypical?
When it was just a question of the surviving inhabitants of the Grenfell Tower, my first thought was "London can take it". But if there were, say, dozens of tower blocks whose inhabitants needed to be rehoused, would that still be the case?
Just curious - given the news that 800 households are to be evacuated in one London borough alone - are people here still sanguine that this can all be managed without any difficulty? Or is it there any feeling that emergency measures may indeed need to taken?
Last year London grew by 330 people per day. Even at 5 people per household (double the national average) that's less than two weeks worth of growth.
But looking at it another way, are there 800 empty social dwellings in Camden? Or in other London boroughs, if Camden is not untypical?
When it was just a question of the surviving inhabitants of the Grenfell Tower, my first thought was "London can take it". But if there were, say, dozens of tower blocks whose inhabitants needed to be rehoused, would that still be the case?
Seems they are being rehoused for upto four weeks for repairs then allowed back home. Many will no doubt stay in hotels
O/T I saw a snapchat story earlier today of a council block in Oxford/Abingdon with union jacks and English flags out on with 'independence day' written on. Only just realised that it's a year to the day.
O/T I saw a snapchat story earlier today of a council block in Oxford/Abingdon with union jacks and English flags out on with 'independence day' written on. Only just realised that it's a year to the day.
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
Of course, that doesn't mean an EU demos will emerge, more likely it will break apart, or that only a portion of it (perhaps Germanic Europe and the Baltics) ends up as sort of rump EU.
Can this be read as you predicting a >50% chance that the EU as a whole will break up? The experience since the Brexit vote shows just how strong and stable the EU as a political structure is. It's a permanent feature of European politics and we cannot avoid it's influence by giving up our influence within it.
I don't think an imminent break up is likely. But the world and the EU economy will have another 2008-2015 period again at some point.
And why will the EU be less capable of weathering it than it was in 2008?
Of course next time any populist uprising will be met with a cautionary warning: Remember Brexit?
Most political unions fail to become demos. A select few endure. The EU may, or may not, be one of those that endure.
Of course, all endurance is relative. One day the last human being to even know the meaning of the words "The United Kingdom" will die.
Given such a fatalistic view of history, for what reason would you support leaving the EU given that you are well aware that a large number of your fellow travellers are nuts and that there are very real risks on many levels? Let it be.
But you and your fellow travellers are religious fundamentalists. The EU can do no wrong and integration leads us to paradise,
If I'm the sort of person who tells religious fundamentalists to go f*ck themselves, what does that make me?
@Richard_Nabavi After I criticised Amber Augusta Rudd the other night, you came back with a very cheap Finchley Road jibe at me.
And why do you think that is?
I honestly don't know! I just wish he'd do his research (and others on here) and look at Companies House documents, which would stand up in a court of law and draw his conclusions from them. As far as I know, he and you have never seen the documents that I have seen so you live in blissful ignorance of what has been going on in this country for the last 35 years or so.
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
That drawing is laughable in the extreme. As one small example, in the Holicene Optimum (800-1200 AD) there were vineyards in Northern England up in Yorkshire, and the vikings were practising agriculture in Eastern Greenland. And that pathetic link of yours shows the temperatures virtually flat at that time.
And the bit that's even more laughable still is the bit around the Younger Dryas from 11,600 to 12,800 years ago, when serious climatologists agree that the climate suddenly cooled by around 10C 12,800 years ago, only for it warm very quickly again by around 10C 11,600 years ago.
And to think the man made climate change lobby have been peddling that pathetic bit of junk to school children. A truly dreadful indoctrination of the next generation.
Rigby saying Govt could come in for criticism if some councils evacuate and others don't.
I thought we were meant to have local democracy - should we just scrap local councils completely and run everything from the centre?
Of course Govt / Parliament must set laws / standards but surely local councils must manage their own areas.
One thing I can guarantee is, no matter what happens, no matter how well or badly handled, that TMay and the Tories will come in for criticism.
Tricky for Lab front bench to do so whilst they're all in a field in the west country somewhere.... ....
Forming a thicket?
Think Corbyn et al living it up at Glastonbury tomorrow may not be too helpful to him
Sky even asking if something more 'sinister' is going on - no idea what they mean by that comment
One of my colleagues, who was a Corbynista long before it is fashionable, told me Corbyn has not had a great couple of weeks since the election. He said Corbyn has looked like a typical politician - greedy for power and arrogant. Which is not what he voted for.
Hubris killed Theresa May's career, I wonder if it's about to take it her opponent as well?
It's his biggest threat at the moment. There's a danger he makes the same mistake May did - mistaking support by default for personal adoration. She was popular by virtue of not being Jeremy Corbyn or David Cameron even though people didn't really know much about her as a person or politician. Corbyn's different - his character's been raked over so much most people have an opinion on him. But there's no doubt a lot of Labour's support was anti-Tory, rather than an endorsement of the hard left. May's tactic of attacking the liberal left backfired as it made everyone jump back in the Labour camp whatever their private doubts. If he starts thinking - as some pro-Corbyn commentators seem to think - that their politics have won Britain and their march is inexorable, then they all might be in for a nasty shock - especially if the Tories rediscover how to do retail politics and ditch the UKIPery and start actually trying to make sense of Brexit.
The other big danger is that all political cults of personality eventually go pop. At some point you'll disappoint people. The bigger the cult the worse it is when it happens, and Corbyn's is bigger even than Thatcher's - even his more sensible supporters will not hear a word against him, but eventually he'll have to let them down, either by failing in power or reverting to type and not being the electoral elixir he's now touted as.
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
That drawing is laughable in the extreme. As one small example, in the Holicene Optimum (800-1200 AD) there were vineyards in Northern England up in Yorkshire, and the vikings were practising agriculture in Eastern Greenland. And that pathetic link of yours shows the temperatures virtually flat at that time.
And the bit that's even more laughable still is the bit around the Younger Dryas from 11,600 to 12,800 years ago, when serious climatologists agree that the climate suddenly cooled by around 10C 12,800 years ago, only for it warm very quickly again by around 10C 11,600 years ago.
And to think the man made climate change lobby have been peddling that pathetic bit of junk to school children. A truly dreadful indoctrination of the next generation.
Comet impact(s) on the northern ice cap caused the cooling 12,800 years ago, further comet impacts at lower latitudes caused the warming around 11,600 years ago.
Can it be a coincidence that Plato tells us the fabled island of Atlantis sank around 11,600 years ago?
@Richard_Nabavi After I criticised Amber Augusta Rudd the other night, you came back with a very cheap Finchley Road jibe at me.
And why do you think that is?
I honestly don't know!
It's because you've wasted about as much bandwidth boring on with your conspiracy theories as you have with your chartist bullshit.
Conspiracy theories out of Companies House documents, when you've never even looked at them! Pull the other one. You really are delusional. I never say anything that I can't back up with evidence for my point of view. That is conspiracy theory for you.
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
That drawing is laughable in the extreme. As one small example, in the Holicene Optimum (800-1200 AD) there were vineyards in Northern England up in Yorkshire, and the vikings were practising agriculture in Eastern Greenland. And that pathetic link of yours shows the temperatures virtually flat at that time.
And the bit that's even more laughable still is the bit around the Younger Dryas from 11,600 to 12,800 years ago, when serious climatologists agree that the climate suddenly cooled by around 10C 12,800 years ago, only for it warm very quickly again by around 10C 11,600 years ago.
And to think the man made climate change lobby have been peddling that pathetic bit of junk to school children. A truly dreadful indoctrination of the next generation.
Comet impact(s) on the northern ice cap caused the cooling 12,800 years ago, further comet impacts at lower alititudes caused the warming around 11,600 years ago.
Can it be a coincidence that Plato tells us the fabled island of Atlantis sank around 11,600 years ago?
I wondered what she'd been doing these past few months.
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
That's very interesting because Plato mentioned in 600 BC a great tragedy that happened around 9,000 years before that, ie 9,600BC, 11,600 years before the present time. And that time isn't just mentioned in Greek civilisation, its mentioned in India, Japan, Eygpt, the Minoans, the Aztecs etc. The sea level rose around 370 feet up to its present level, flooding much of the best farmland in the world at that time which was around the Persian Gulf before the catastrophic flooding.
I wish more research would be done about the period. Fishermen have had their nets caught up in stone structures just over 110m below sea level around the world, but nobody really wants to investigate seriously these stone structures at that depth under the sea. Graham Hancock and some of his fellow travellers have done some great research work, Fingerprints of the Gods and Mysteries of the Gods are two of the greatest books ever written in my opinion.
Whether Atlantis is true or not, I have an open mind on. The site that is fascinating that I'd love to visit is Goblecki Tepi in Turkey quite close to the Syrian border, which literally means pot bellied hill. The site has been carbon dated to 12,000 years ago, and some of the best stuff there is the older carbon dated stones, which amongst alot of other evidence suggests a lost civilisation from those times, overwhelmed by the comet impacts at 12,800 and 11,600 years ago.
Just curious - given the news that 800 households are to be evacuated in one London borough alone - are people here still sanguine that this can all be managed without any difficulty? Or is it there any feeling that emergency measures may indeed need to taken?
Last year London grew by 330 people per day. Even at 5 people per household (double the national average) that's less than two weeks worth of growth.
But looking at it another way, are there 800 empty social dwellings in Camden? Or in other London boroughs, if Camden is not untypical?
When it was just a question of the surviving inhabitants of the Grenfell Tower, my first thought was "London can take it". But if there were, say, dozens of tower blocks whose inhabitants needed to be rehoused, would that still be the case?
Seems they are being rehoused for upto four weeks for repairs then allowed back home. Many will no doubt stay in hotels
Well, I was just trying to gauge opinion.
So essentially opinion still seems to be that dealing with this problem will be as easy as falling off a log. That's good news for Theresa May - provided it's right, of course.
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
That drawing is laughable in the extreme. As one small example, in the Holicene Optimum (800-1200 AD) there were vineyards in Northern England up in Yorkshire, and the vikings were practising agriculture in Eastern Greenland. And that pathetic link of yours shows the temperatures virtually flat at that time.
And the bit that's even more laughable still is the bit around the Younger Dryas from 11,600 to 12,800 years ago, when serious climatologists agree that the climate suddenly cooled by around 10C 12,800 years ago, only for it warm very quickly again by around 10C 11,600 years ago.
And to think the man made climate change lobby have been peddling that pathetic bit of junk to school children. A truly dreadful indoctrination of the next generation.
Comet impact(s) on the northern ice cap caused the cooling 12,800 years ago, further comet impacts at lower alititudes caused the warming around 11,600 years ago.
Can it be a coincidence that Plato tells us the fabled island of Atlantis sank around 11,600 years ago?
I wondered what she'd been doing these past few months.
The Turkish site of Gobekli Tepe, the oldest acknowledged civilisation, has been dated by the late Klaus Schmidt to 11,600 years ago.
In all the hundreds of thousands of wrong and ridiculous posts on PB, is that the singularly most wrong post of all time?
I'm sorry you don't like them.
But let me make the case for them, from statistics.
Spotify publishes detailed data on who listens to what. Of albums older than 10 years, there are three absolute standouts in terms of playtime. And that's albums from:
The Beatles, Paul Simon / Simon & Garfunkel, and Radiohead.
Everything else is just noise. They are the only people who's music has really lasted. Of course, that won't necessarily continue, and tastes change. But it's worth noting that people who like them really, really like them.
Does that make tbe Daily Mail the best journalism site too?
Radiohead are not quite as dull as Coldplay is about as far as the truth goes.
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
That drawing is laughable in the extreme. As one small example, in the Holicene Optimum (800-1200 AD) there were vineyards in Northern England up in Yorkshire, and the vikings were practising agriculture in Eastern Greenland. And that pathetic link of yours shows the temperatures virtually flat at that time.
And the bit that's even more laughable still is the bit around the Younger Dryas from 11,600 to 12,800 years ago, when serious climatologists agree that the climate suddenly cooled by around 10C 12,800 years ago, only for it warm very quickly again by around 10C 11,600 years ago.
And to think the man made climate change lobby have been peddling that pathetic bit of junk to school children. A truly dreadful indoctrination of the next generation.
Comet impact(s) on the northern ice cap caused the cooling 12,800 years ago, further comet impacts at lower alititudes caused the warming around 11,600 years ago.
Can it be a coincidence that Plato tells us the fabled island of Atlantis sank around 11,600 years ago?
I wondered what she'd been doing these past few months.
The Turkish site of Gobekli Tepe, the oldest acknowledged civilisation, has been dated by the late Klaus Schmidt to 11,600 years ago.
I wish more research would be done about the period. Fishermen have had their nets caught up in stone structures just over 110m below sea level around the world, but nobody really wants to investigate seriously these stone structures at that depth under the sea. Graham Hancock and some of his fellow travellers have done some great research work, Fingerprints of the Gods and Mysteries of the Gods are two of the greatest books ever written in my opinion.
I just mentioned Gobekli Tepe - and did you mean Magicians of the Gods? I bought that just this March, and Fingerprints 15 years ago!
Tricky for Lab front bench to do so whilst they're all in a field in the west country somewhere.... ....
Forming a thicket?
snip Sky even asking if something more 'sinister' is going on - no idea what they mean by that comment
One of my colleagues, who was a Corbynista long before it is fashionable, told me Corbyn has not had a great couple of weeks since the election. He said Corbyn has looked like a typical politician - greedy for power and arrogant. Which is not what he voted for.
Hubris killed Theresa May's career, I wonder if it's about to take it her opponent as well?
It's his biggest threat at the moment. There's a danger he makes the same mistake May did - mistaking support by default for personal adoration. She was popular by virtue of not being Jeremy Corbyn or David Cameron even though people didn't really know much about her as a person or politician. Corbyn's different - his character's been raked over so much most people have an opinion on him. But there's no doubt a lot of Labour's support was anti-Tory, rather than an endorsement of the hard left. May's tactic of attacking the liberal left backfired as it made everyone jump back in the Labour camp whatever their private doubts. If he starts thinking - as some pro-Corbyn commentators seem to think - that their politics have won Britain and their march is inexorable, then they all might be in for a nasty shock - especially if the Tories rediscover how to do retail politics and ditch the UKIPery and start actually trying to make sense of Brexit.
The other big danger is that all political cults of personality eventually go pop. At some point you'll disappoint people. The bigger the cult the worse it is when it happens, and Corbyn's is bigger even than Thatcher's - even his more sensible supporters will not hear a word against him, but eventually he'll have to let them down, either by failing in power or reverting to type and not being the electoral elixir he's now touted as.
I can imagine a lot of the faithful will be looking for something more edgy and countercultural once he's played Glasto and become all 'mainstream'.
For the record, Tom Yorke's voice is flat today. It's not a good show. But that doesn't mean Radiohead are not a great band.
That is surely borderline abusive.
I may have to ban myself.
(The Radiohead one has been freed.)
Jesus RCS...Radiohead are at the top of their game.....
I was lucky enough to see them last week in Florence....the best gig of my life by a mile (nothing close)...and that was the third time of seeing Radiohead....they are mellowing and playing loads of crowd pleasers....
And today they are sending that ball out of the Glastonbury park.....
I wish more research would be done about the period. Fishermen have had their nets caught up in stone structures just over 110m below sea level around the world, but nobody really wants to investigate seriously these stone structures at that depth under the sea. Graham Hancock and some of his fellow travellers have done some great research work, Fingerprints of the Gods and Mysteries of the Gods are two of the greatest books ever written in my opinion.
I just mentioned Gobekli Tepe - and did you mean Magicians of the Gods? I bought that just this March, and Fingerprints 15 years ago!
For the record, Tom Yorke's voice is flat today. It's not a good show. But that doesn't mean Radiohead are not a great band.
That is surely borderline abusive.
I may have to ban myself.
(The Radiohead one has been freed.)
Jesus RCS...Radiohead are at the top of their game.....
I was lucky enough to see them last week in Florence....the best gig of my life by a mile (nothing close)...and that was the third time of seeing Radiohead....they are mellowing and playing loads of crowd pleasers....
And today they are sending that ball out of the Glastonbury park.....
I've seen Radiohead live three times: twice in Victoria Park and once in Shepherd's Bush. They were outstanding every time.
Other bands I've loved live: LCD Soundsystem, The National, The Vaccines, Simon & Garfunkel.
That's very interesting because Plato mentioned in 600 BC a great tragedy that happened around 9,000 years before that, ie 9,600BC, 11,600 years before the present time. And that time isn't just mentioned in Greek civilisation, its mentioned in India, Japan, Eygpt, the Minoans, the Aztecs etc. The sea level rose around 370 feet up to its present level, flooding much of the best farmland in the world at that time which was around the Persian Gulf before the catastrophic flooding.
I wish more research would be done about the period. Fishermen have had their nets caught up in stone structures just over 110m below sea level around the world, but nobody really wants to investigate seriously these stone structures at that depth under the sea. Graham Hancock and some of his fellow travellers have done some great research work, Fingerprints of the Gods and Mysteries of the Gods are two of the greatest books ever written in my opinion.
Whether Atlantis is true or not, I have an open mind on. The site that is fascinating that I'd love to visit is Goblecki Tepi in Turkey quite close to the Syrian border, which literally means pot bellied hill. The site has been carbon dated to 12,000 years ago, and some of the best stuff there is the older carbon dated stones, which amongst alot of other evidence suggests a lost civilisation from those times, overwhelmed by the comet impacts at 12,800 and 11,600 years ago.
Regarding Atlantis, I found Peter James's book, suggesting that a significant part of the legend was based on Tantalis in Asia Minor (near modern Izmir), completely convincing.
Not sure that has much to do with political betting, though...
What bit is better than what? This gig is unbelievably brilliant from start to when it finishes. The tempo, the arrangement, the vibrancy, the energy, the sheer brilliance of the music, the eclectic vocals....
Radiohead make you a better person. Full stop.....
An apology from the Remoaner's over the catastrophe that the EU has put Greece through over the past 9 years with a drepression worse in terms of lost output and employment than the Great Depression would be nice too. But I don't bet on it happening!
And remember a year ago tonight - the first 90 minutes the Remoaner's gloating in delight about their 'assumed' victory, and then their nightmare of the results coming in, first that declaration of 60pc out in Sunderland to start things off. Oh what a night that was.
In all the hundreds of thousands of wrong and ridiculous posts on PB, is that the singularly most wrong post of all time?
I'm sorry you don't like them.
But let me make the case for them, from statistics.
Spotify publishes detailed data on who listens to what. Of albums older than 10 years, there are three absolute standouts in terms of playtime. And that's albums from:
The Beatles, Paul Simon / Simon & Garfunkel, and Radiohead.
Everything else is just noise. They are the only people who's music has really lasted. Of course, that won't necessarily continue, and tastes change. But it's worth noting that people who like them really, really like them.
Does that make tbe Daily Mail the best journalism site too?
Radiohead are not quite as dull as Coldplay is about as far as the truth goes.
Coldplay are truly dreadful. But Radiohead really does reward repeated listening.
For humour value, here is Radiohead playing The Smiths:
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
That drawing is laughable in the extreme. As one small example, in the Holicene Optimum (800-1200 AD) there were vineyards in Northern England up in Yorkshire, and the vikings were practising agriculture in Eastern Greenland. And that pathetic link of yours shows the temperatures virtually flat at that time.
And the bit that's even more laughable still is the bit around the Younger Dryas from 11,600 to 12,800 years ago, when serious climatologists agree that the climate suddenly cooled by around 10C 12,800 years ago, only for it warm very quickly again by around 10C 11,600 years ago.
And to think the man made climate change lobby have been peddling that pathetic bit of junk to school children. A truly dreadful indoctrination of the next generation.
Comet impact(s) on the northern ice cap caused the cooling 12,800 years ago, further comet impacts at lower alititudes caused the warming around 11,600 years ago.
Can it be a coincidence that Plato tells us the fabled island of Atlantis sank around 11,600 years ago?
I wondered what she'd been doing these past few months.
The Turkish site of Gobekli Tepe, the oldest acknowledged civilisation, has been dated by the late Klaus Schmidt to 11,600 years ago.
Excuse my spelling of it Sunil!
That's OK hunchman! Have a laugh while reading this, which was published on Graham's site way back in January 2003:
What bit is better than what? This gig is unbelievably brilliant from start to when it finishes. The tempo, the arrangement, the vibrancy, the energy, the sheer brilliance of the music, the eclectic vocals....
Radiohead make you a better person. Full stop.....
I'm on my second glass of red post a curry pint. I'm probably mellowing into it a tad.
What bit is better than what? This gig is unbelievably brilliant from start to when it finishes. The tempo, the arrangement, the vibrancy, the energy, the sheer brilliance of the music, the eclectic vocals....
Radiohead make you a better person. Full stop.....
I'm sorry, but Tom's voice is not all there tonight. He got Nude spot on, but some of the others he really struggled.
@Richard_Nabavi After I criticised Amber Augusta Rudd the other night, you came back with a very cheap Finchley Road jibe at me.
And why do you think that is?
I honestly don't know!
It's because you've wasted about as much bandwidth boring on with your conspiracy theories as you have with your chartist bullshit.
Conspiracy theories out of Companies House documents, when you've never even looked at them! Pull the other one. You really are delusional. I never say anything that I can't back up with evidence for my point of view. That is conspiracy theory for you.
I met a conspiracy theorist a while back. He seriously believed the earth is flat. I looked it up, and they reckon the earth is flat & circular, with an ice wall around the perimeter (which is more commonly known as the south pole). Some really amazing theories to account for all the science (or 'science').
@Richard_Nabavi After I criticised Amber Augusta Rudd the other night, you came back with a very cheap Finchley Road jibe at me.
And why do you think that is?
I honestly don't know!
It's because you've wasted about as much bandwidth boring on with your conspiracy theories as you have with your chartist bullshit.
Conspiracy theories out of Companies House documents, when you've never even looked at them! Pull the other one. You really are delusional. I never say anything that I can't back up with evidence for my point of view. That is conspiracy theory for you.
I met a conspiracy theorist a while back. He seriously believed the earth is flat. I looked it up, and they reckon the earth is flat & circular, with an ice wall around the perimeter (which is more commonly known as the south pole). Some really amazing theories to account for all the science (or 'science').
You won't find me espousing flat earth nonsense and creationist nonsense either!
What bit is better than what? This gig is unbelievably brilliant from start to when it finishes. The tempo, the arrangement, the vibrancy, the energy, the sheer brilliance of the music, the eclectic vocals....
Radiohead make you a better person. Full stop.....
I'm sorry, but Tom's voice is not all there tonight. He got Nude spot on, but some of the others he really struggled.
I'm running about 15 mins behind...he's just starting Fade Out....
Most of this set is stunning from where I'm sitting.... Florence last week was magical so maybe I'm still upbeat from then...
He'll do Fake Plastic Trees later.....enough said....
That drawing is laughable in the extreme. As one small example, in the Holicene Optimum (800-1200 AD) there were vineyards in Northern England up in Yorkshire, and the vikings were practising agriculture in Eastern Greenland. And that pathetic link of yours shows the temperatures virtually flat at that time.
And the bit that's even more laughable still is the bit around the Younger Dryas from 11,600 to 12,800 years ago, when serious climatologists agree that the climate suddenly cooled by around 10C 12,800 years ago, only for it warm very quickly again by around 10C 11,600 years ago.
And to think the man made climate change lobby have been peddling that pathetic bit of junk to school children. A truly dreadful indoctrination of the next generation.
Comet impact(s) on the northern ice cap caused the cooling 12,800 years ago, further comet impacts at lower alititudes caused the warming around 11,600 years ago.
Can it be a coincidence that Plato tells us the fabled island of Atlantis sank around 11,600 years ago?
I wondered what she'd been doing these past few months.
The Turkish site of Gobekli Tepe, the oldest acknowledged civilisation, has been dated by the late Klaus Schmidt to 11,600 years ago.
Excuse my spelling of it Sunil!
That's OK hunchman! Have a laugh while reading this, which was published on Graham's site way back in January 2003:
Wonderful stuff Sunil. A serious amount of land got flooded on the peninsular down from the modern day Singapore down through to Java. They reckon the east coast of the US went out around a further 100 miles on average into the Atlantic compared to today. What do you make of the theory of the equator once joining Easter Island, Giza and Angkor Wat, with them all separated by 72 degrees of longitude? IIRC the line goes through the Nazca lines / Ollayantaytumbo in Peru as well.
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Cattle prods and the I.M.F.
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https://twitter.com/s8mb/status/878362609602486273
But let me make the case for them, from statistics.
Spotify publishes detailed data on who listens to what. Of albums older than 10 years, there are three absolute standouts in terms of playtime. And that's albums from:
The Beatles, Paul Simon / Simon & Garfunkel, and Radiohead.
Everything else is just noise. They are the only people who's music has really lasted. Of course, that won't necessarily continue, and tastes change. But it's worth noting that people who like them really, really like them.
Doesn't make them the greatest band of the last 30 years. Sorry.
Will it end up as a cold case file?
But, I think that we should be ruled by a government that is accountable exclusively to our own voters, which is seen as heresy by some people.
When it was just a question of the surviving inhabitants of the Grenfell Tower, my first thought was "London can take it". But if there were, say, dozens of tower blocks whose inhabitants needed to be rehoused, would that still be the case?
May I point out that Abingdon did their best to discourage the band, but unfortunately failed to stop them.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/brexit-petition-radiohead-thom-yorke-second-eu-referendum-a7102636.html
Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke leads calls for second EU referendum
Personally I find them ******* and ***** and ****-****.
REMAIN 48%
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/london-fire-may-have-been-caused-by-eu-regulations/
If true, this just goes to show the dangers of politicians following junk science. Enough people are fed up of paying needlessly high energy bills thanks to all the ruinous measures in the 2008 energy bill. This likely won't get the time of day on the mainstream media (MSM), but like all great cycles the man made climate change lobby have had their 'false' time in the sun. Now comes the oncoming mini ice-age thanks to declining solar activity. The 2020's looks like being an incredibly cold decade. Just this February we saw food shortages in courgettes in our supermarkets when the crop in Spain was ruined owing to frosts and UK supermarkets had to source their supplies from elsewhere. This year's vines were ruined by the very heavy frosts across Western Europe at the end of April too. But of course, no mention on the MSM about it all, all an inconvenient truth to the man made climate change lobby.
https://g.co/kgs/mGnhik
Like Radiohead. But the non tunes stuff is just too much like Jazz Odyssey from Spinal Tap. #glastonbury
(The Radiohead one has been freed.)
And the bit that's even more laughable still is the bit around the Younger Dryas from 11,600 to 12,800 years ago, when serious climatologists agree that the climate suddenly cooled by around 10C 12,800 years ago, only for it warm very quickly again by around 10C 11,600 years ago.
And to think the man made climate change lobby have been peddling that pathetic bit of junk to school children. A truly dreadful indoctrination of the next generation.
The other big danger is that all political cults of personality eventually go pop. At some point you'll disappoint people. The bigger the cult the worse it is when it happens, and Corbyn's is bigger even than Thatcher's - even his more sensible supporters will not hear a word against him, but eventually he'll have to let them down, either by failing in power or reverting to type and not being the electoral elixir he's now touted as.
Can it be a coincidence that Plato tells us the fabled island of Atlantis sank around 11,600 years ago?
So essentially opinion still seems to be that dealing with this problem will be as easy as falling off a log. That's good news for Theresa May - provided it's right, of course.
Radiohead are not quite as dull as Coldplay is about as far as the truth goes.
If I had one criticism, their tone is slightly too optimistic and upbeat for these dark Brexit days. A remembrance of happier times.
I was lucky enough to see them last week in Florence....the best gig of my life by a mile (nothing close)...and that was the third time of seeing Radiohead....they are mellowing and playing loads of crowd pleasers....
And today they are sending that ball out of the Glastonbury park.....
But then, I've run companies and spent a lot of time looking at Companies House documents...
Other bands I've loved live: LCD Soundsystem, The National, The Vaccines, Simon & Garfunkel.
http://www.samaritans.org/
Not sure that has much to do with political betting, though...
Radiohead make you a better person. Full stop.....
https://order-order.com/2017/06/23/the-economist-lack-of-intelligence-unit/
An apology from the Remoaner's over the catastrophe that the EU has put Greece through over the past 9 years with a drepression worse in terms of lost output and employment than the Great Depression would be nice too. But I don't bet on it happening!
And remember a year ago tonight - the first 90 minutes the Remoaner's gloating in delight about their 'assumed' victory, and then their nightmare of the results coming in, first that declaration of 60pc out in Sunderland to start things off. Oh what a night that was.
But Radiohead really does reward repeated listening.
For humour value, here is Radiohead playing The Smiths:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox58_gYmFRM
https://grahamhancock.com/drsunilatlantis/
Or we could believe that the company formation service was just a front.
Your call.
Most of this set is stunning from where I'm sitting.... Florence last week was magical so maybe I'm still upbeat from then...
He'll do Fake Plastic Trees later.....enough said....
Go look into 145-157 St John Street next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HimvFbossU8