This last two years have seen the Liberal Democrats recover since the devastation of the 2015 election.
That recovery was never inevitable but we have seen the doubling of our party membership, growth in council elections, our first parliamentary by-election win for more than a decade, and most recently our growth at the 2017 general election.
Most importantly the Liberal Democrats have established ourselves with a significant and distinctive role - passionate about Europe, free trade, strong well-funded public services underpinned by a growing market economy.
No one else occupies that space. Against all the odds, the Liberal Democrats matter again.
We can be proud of the progress we have made together, although there is much more we need to do.
From the very first day of my leadership, I have faced questions about my Christian faith. I've tried to answer with grace and patience. Sometimes my answers could have been wiser.
At the start of this election, I found myself under scrutiny again - asked about matters to do with my faith. I felt guilty that this focus was distracting attention from our campaign, obscuring our message.
Journalists have every right to ask what they see fit. The consequences of the focus on my faith is that I have found myself torn between living as a faithful Christian and serving as a political leader.
A better, wiser person than me may have been able to deal with this more successfully, to have remained faithful to Christ while leading a political party in the current environment.
To be a political leader - especially of a progressive, liberal party in 2017 - and to live as a committed Christian, to hold faithfully to the Bible's teaching, has felt impossible for me.
I'm a liberal to my finger tips, and that liberalism means that I am passionate about defending the rights and liberties of people who believe different things to me.
There are Christians in politics who take the view that they should impose the tenets of faith on society, but I have not taken that approach because I disagree with it - it's not liberal and it is counterproductive when it comes to advancing the gospel.
Even so, I seem to be the subject of suspicion because of what I believe and who my faith is in.
In which case we are kidding ourselves if we think we yet live in a tolerant, liberal society.
That's why I have chosen to step down as leader of the Liberal Democrats.
I intend to serve until the parliamentary recess begins next month, at which point there will be a leadership election according to the party’s rules.
This is a historic time in British politics. What happens in the next months and years will shape our country for generations.
My successor will inherit a party that is needed now more than ever before. Our future as an open, tolerant and united country is at stake.
The cause of British liberalism has never been needed more. People who will fight for a Britain that is confident, generous and compassionate are needed more than ever before.
That is the challenge our party and my successor faces and the opportunity I am certain that they will rise to.
I want to say one more thing: I joined our party when I was 16, it is in my blood, I love our history, our people, I thoroughly love my party.
Imagine how proud I am to lead this party. And then imagine what would lead me to voluntarily relinquish that honour.
In the words of Isaac Watts it would have to be something 'so amazing, so divine, (it) demands my heart, my life, my all'. Thank you,
There is growing anger among Tory MPs that May has misplayed her hand in these negotiations. By announcing that the Conservatives would govern in conjunction with the DUP, she made it so that any failure to do so would look like weakness. MPs believe that entering into a formal agreement with the DUP is not in the party’s interest as (a) given the DUP’s record on LGBT rights, it risks toxifying the Tory brand by association, and (b) it means the power is with the DUP.
They reckon May ought to have called their bluff. After all, the alternative for the unionists to voting with the Conservatives is a Corbyn-led government and given the low regard Foster’s party hold the Labour leader in, they’re unlikely to do that anytime soon.
Worst leader would be a fight between Cable and Davey. Both Has-beens-who-never-really-were....
Vince Cable did what Thatcher didn't have the balls to do, privatise Royal Mail.
At an utterly shite price.
I didn't sign up for the Royal Mail share offer because I believed the Government would sell it at a fair market price, thus it should end up about level on the first day of trading...
There is growing anger among Tory MPs that May has misplayed her hand in these negotiations. By announcing that the Conservatives would govern in conjunction with the DUP, she made it so that any failure to do so would look like weakness. MPs believe that entering into a formal agreement with the DUP is not in the party’s interest as (a) given the DUP’s record on LGBT rights, it risks toxifying the Tory brand by association, and (b) it means the power is with the DUP.
They reckon May ought to have called their bluff. After all, the alternative for the unionists to voting with the Conservatives is a Corbyn-led government and given the low regard Foster’s party hold the Labour leader in, they’re unlikely to do that anytime soon.
Sure it would get them past the QS but leave them in a potential pickle thereafter.
Tims heart was always in westmorland, he knew that there were several good candidates to replce him, he has a battle to hold his seat and is private views would always distract from the message. I dont blame him fo going hes done his job motivating the membership. Lets just hope cable has got the sense not to stand and leave it open for Swinson.
Farron was a nice guy, but the lib dems should have made a lot more headway at the last election, given the circumstances. The christian faith thing was a bit of a sideshow.
Farron was a nice guy, but the lib dems should have made a lot more headway at the last election, given the circumstances. The christian faith thing was a bit of a sideshow.
Maybe, but the other view is that in the tightest two-party squeeze since 1970 (in terms of two-party vote share) the LDs held their ground and gained seats - much better than UKIP or the Greens.
No. If she runs, she wins though. I'm happy enough to be on at 5-2 for £40, its not a complete shoo in though. I'd hope her husband can help with the baby !
It just dawned on me, every Lib Dem who served in the coalition cabinet either lost their seat or ended up in prison at some point, except Alistair Carmichael
Spotlight (local SW news) suggesting if the PM gives goodies to Northern Ireland at the expense of sorting out the SW rail links, there could be 30 disgruntled SW MPs who start agitating for a leadership challenge......
Spotlight (local SW news) suggesting if the PM gives goodies to Northern Ireland at the expense of sorting out the SW rail links, there could be 30 disgruntled SW MPs who start agitating for a leadership challenge......
It just dawned on me, every Lib Dem who served in the coalition cabinet either lost their seat or ended up in prison at some point, except Alistair Carmichael
You've got me baffled.
Which LibDem ended up in prison but didn't lose their seat ?
Great news on Farron, a proper Liberal leader would give the electorate a little more choice. The current main offer of big business v unions with a pair of pretty dismal leaders needs some decent challenge, a wet lettuce, statist religious crank was pretty tragic for the Liberals.
Shadow Cabinet expected to be announced this evening
Paul Waugh reports that all Whips have been confirmed in their positions. So that would be Alan Campbell, Mark Tami, Jessica Morden, Judith Cummins, Vicky Foxcroft, Chris Elmore, Thangam Debbonaire, Nick Smith, Jeff Smith, Karl Turner, Nik Dakin
Spotlight (local SW news) suggesting if the PM gives goodies to Northern Ireland at the expense of sorting out the SW rail links, there could be 30 disgruntled SW MPs who start agitating for a leadership challenge......
Very dignified and heartfelt statement by Tim Farron. I always thought him too lightweight to be a party leader but that was a brave statement. He has my respect for making it rather than expressing some meaningless guff.
The question about whether gay sex is a sin is a hot topic in the Anglican Church at the moment. Last week the Scottish Episcopal Church voted to change church canons to permit same sex marriage. Other provinces of the Anglican Church are strongly against same sex marriage.
It just dawned on me, every Lib Dem who served in the coalition cabinet either lost their seat or ended up in prison at some point, except Alistair Carmichael
You've got me baffled.
Which LibDem ended up in prison but didn't lose their seat ?
Chris Huhne, he resigned as an MP, rather than lost his seat in an election.
I think the way Tim has been treated because of his faith has been disgraceful.
Agreed.
In what regard ?
He himself admits in his statement that he found it difficult reconciling his faith with leading an avowedly liberal party. To expect the media (or his political opponents) to studiously ignore this potential issue during the election campaign is surely to hold them to a standard far higher than you would expect for (say) Corbyn, May or Abbott ?
Such treatment is part and parcel of participating in the democratic process. And always has been.
There is growing anger among Tory MPs that May has misplayed her hand in these negotiations. By announcing that the Conservatives would govern in conjunction with the DUP, she made it so that any failure to do so would look like weakness. MPs believe that entering into a formal agreement with the DUP is not in the party’s interest as (a) given the DUP’s record on LGBT rights, it risks toxifying the Tory brand by association, and (b) it means the power is with the DUP.
They reckon May ought to have called their bluff. After all, the alternative for the unionists to voting with the Conservatives is a Corbyn-led government and given the low regard Foster’s party hold the Labour leader in, they’re unlikely to do that anytime soon.
Reasonable statement, if his faith comes into conflict with his job as leader then something had to change so he has stuck with his faith which is fair enough. Didn't know he was/is so devout, he's a fellow Rover and seems like a decent bloke that's all I knew.
I think the way Tim has been treated because of his faith has been disgraceful.
Agreed.
In what regard ?
He himself admits in his statement that he found it difficult reconciling his faith with leading an avowedly liberal party. To expect the media (or his political opponents) to studiously ignore this potential issue during the election campaign is surely to hold them to a standard far higher than you would expect for (say) Corbyn, May or Abbott ?
Such treatment is part and parcel of participating in the democratic process. And always has been.
There's nothing in Farron's resignation statement that shouldn't have stopped him from standing in the first place.
It just dawned on me, every Lib Dem who served in the coalition cabinet either lost their seat or ended up in prison at some point, except Alistair Carmichael
You've got me baffled.
Which LibDem ended up in prison but didn't lose their seat ?
Chris Huhne, he resigned as an MP, rather than lost his seat in an election.
I thought you would say Huhne.
But I'd count resigning in disgrace having been sent to the wrong sort of other place counts as losing their seat.
There is growing anger among Tory MPs that May has misplayed her hand in these negotiations. By announcing that the Conservatives would govern in conjunction with the DUP, she made it so that any failure to do so would look like weakness. MPs believe that entering into a formal agreement with the DUP is not in the party’s interest as (a) given the DUP’s record on LGBT rights, it risks toxifying the Tory brand by association, and (b) it means the power is with the DUP.
They reckon May ought to have called their bluff. After all, the alternative for the unionists to voting with the Conservatives is a Corbyn-led government and given the low regard Foster’s party hold the Labour leader in, they’re unlikely to do that anytime soon.
I wonder if her confidence might simply be shot..
My own theory is that she's surrounded by enemies/people she doesn't know, and she doesn't know what to do, or whom to turn to.
Her Chiefs of Staff are gone.
Her Chancellor is someone she wanted to sack, but is now making demands of her.
She wanted to demote Boris to the Party Chairmanship, is now keeping her in power.
You need both charm and guile to be good at negotiating. And know when to apply one, and then the other, and be on top of your brief, and flexible but also firm.
Do we have a Tory like that?
(The above isn't a code for a Remain BINO sell out either)
I think the way Tim has been treated because of his faith has been disgraceful.
Agreed.
In what regard ?
He himself admits in his statement that he found it difficult reconciling his faith with leading an avowedly liberal party. To expect the media (or his political opponents) to studiously ignore this potential issue during the election campaign is surely to hold them to a standard far higher than you would expect for (say) Corbyn, May or Abbott ?
Such treatment is part and parcel of participating in the democratic process. And always has been.
There's nothing in Farron's resignation statement that shouldn't have stopped him from standing in the first place.
That's more or less how I feel about it. I respect his beliefs, and while I might not share them I wouldn't dream of suggesting that he ought not to hold them - but if so strongly held, then their incompatibility with leading a secular liberal party was always going to be there.
Farron was a nice guy, but the lib dems should have made a lot more headway at the last election, given the circumstances. The christian faith thing was a bit of a sideshow.
I think the Lib Dems did about as well as they could have hoped for.
There is growing anger among Tory MPs that May has misplayed her hand in these negotiations. By announcing that the Conservatives would govern in conjunction with the DUP, she made it so that any failure to do so would look like weakness. MPs believe that entering into a formal agreement with the DUP is not in the party’s interest as (a) given the DUP’s record on LGBT rights, it risks toxifying the Tory brand by association, and (b) it means the power is with the DUP.
They reckon May ought to have called their bluff. After all, the alternative for the unionists to voting with the Conservatives is a Corbyn-led government and given the low regard Foster’s party hold the Labour leader in, they’re unlikely to do that anytime soon.
I wonder if her confidence might simply be shot..
My own theory is that she's surrounded by enemies/people she doesn't know, and she doesn't know what to do, or whom to turn to.
Her Chiefs of Staff are gone.
Her Chancellor is someone she wanted to sack, but is now making demands of her.
She wanted to demote Boris to the Party Chairmanship, is now keeping her in power.
All self inflicted wounds, but there we are.
Who will you be voting for in the forthcoming Tory leadership election ?
Shadow Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government and Shadow Minister for the Constitutional Convention: Andrew Gwynne. He replaces Teresa Pearce who already said some months ago she would going to step down from the role
Shadow Secretary for Scotland: Lesley Laird
Shadow Secretary for Northern Ireland: Owen Smith
Shadow minister for Diverse communities: Dawn Butler
I reckon Davey at 11/1 is value. Former cabinet member, experienced, high profile, decent seat majority. Swinson may not want the job as a young mother. Her odds seem prohibitive, unless someone knows something already.
Worst leader would be a fight between Cable and Davey. Both Has-beens-who-never-really-were....
Do you consider Conservative cabinet ministers "Has beens-who-never-really-were."
Foolish comment MM. Unworthy of you.
They were not remotely in the same class as Clegg, Lamb or Webb.
And recent Tory Cabinets have not been without duds.
I disagree.
All cabinet ministers get marks for staying the course against the odds. Cable more so as he was essential for keeping his wing of the LibDems on board. Barely a week passed without ill informed comment on Vince leaving. In fact he was totally committed to the Coalition - ensuring "strong and stable government". Remember that?
Many moons ago Mrs T thought privatizing the Post Office utterly impossible. If you'd have told her a LibDem would have championed it into fruition she'd have had you locked up for your own safety.
Cable, Davey and all the LibDem ministers have plenty of credit in the bank in my view. I have little doubt they knew that the junior partner was in for a shellacking at the 2015 election. In 2010 they put the country first. The nation was not grateful five years later. Politics is a brutal business, twas ever thus.
"Has beens who never were" you say - Wildly off the mark old chap.
You need both charm and guile to be good at negotiating. And know when to apply one, and then the other, and be on top of your brief, and flexible but also firm.
Do we have a Tory like that?
(The above isn't a code for a Remain BINO sell out either)
If it's a one-off deal, you can be as hard as nails.
If you need to work in partnership, you don't want a deal that's too good, because you don't want a resentful partner. The DUP need to remember that.
Does the reason for Tim's resignation mean he will not fight his seat again? Or does God not get in the way of him doing weekly surgeries?
Why are you sneering at God, Mr Mark? Are you a heathen or an atheist?
Both. But I'm not sneering at God. I'm sneering at somebody who couldn't see that the clash between his faith and the given liberal attitudes of the day wouldn't survive first contact with the media.
I think the way Tim has been treated because of his faith has been disgraceful.
Agreed.
In what regard ?
He himself admits in his statement that he found it difficult reconciling his faith with leading an avowedly liberal party. To expect the media (or his political opponents) to studiously ignore this potential issue during the election campaign is surely to hold them to a standard far higher than you would expect for (say) Corbyn, May or Abbott ?
Such treatment is part and parcel of participating in the democratic process. And always has been.
Everyone's out of step bar me but I do not think Farron says his Christianity itself was the issue but that journalists would not let it go, so whatever message he intended was hijacked and turned into yet another press conference about his faith.
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So Tim is upset that some liberals aren't tolerant of his conservative Christian views. Interesting.
Anyone but Vince.
EDIT: See statement.
https://twitter.com/larisamlbrown/status/875045165777473537
This last two years have seen the Liberal Democrats recover since the devastation of the 2015 election.
That recovery was never inevitable but we have seen the doubling of our party membership, growth in council elections, our first parliamentary by-election win for more than a decade, and most recently our growth at the 2017 general election.
Most importantly the Liberal Democrats have established ourselves with a significant and distinctive role - passionate about Europe, free trade, strong well-funded public services underpinned by a growing market economy.
No one else occupies that space. Against all the odds, the Liberal Democrats matter again.
We can be proud of the progress we have made together, although there is much more we need to do.
From the very first day of my leadership, I have faced questions about my Christian faith. I've tried to answer with grace and patience. Sometimes my answers could have been wiser.
At the start of this election, I found myself under scrutiny again - asked about matters to do with my faith. I felt guilty that this focus was distracting attention from our campaign, obscuring our message.
Journalists have every right to ask what they see fit. The consequences of the focus on my faith is that I have found myself torn between living as a faithful Christian and serving as a political leader.
A better, wiser person than me may have been able to deal with this more successfully, to have remained faithful to Christ while leading a political party in the current environment.
To be a political leader - especially of a progressive, liberal party in 2017 - and to live as a committed Christian, to hold faithfully to the Bible's teaching, has felt impossible for me.
I'm a liberal to my finger tips, and that liberalism means that I am passionate about defending the rights and liberties of people who believe different things to me.
Even so, I seem to be the subject of suspicion because of what I believe and who my faith is in.
In which case we are kidding ourselves if we think we yet live in a tolerant, liberal society.
That's why I have chosen to step down as leader of the Liberal Democrats.
I intend to serve until the parliamentary recess begins next month, at which point there will be a leadership election according to the party’s rules.
This is a historic time in British politics. What happens in the next months and years will shape our country for generations.
My successor will inherit a party that is needed now more than ever before. Our future as an open, tolerant and united country is at stake.
The cause of British liberalism has never been needed more. People who will fight for a Britain that is confident, generous and compassionate are needed more than ever before.
That is the challenge our party and my successor faces and the opportunity I am certain that they will rise to.
I want to say one more thing: I joined our party when I was 16, it is in my blood, I love our history, our people, I thoroughly love my party.
Imagine how proud I am to lead this party. And then imagine what would lead me to voluntarily relinquish that honour.
In the words of Isaac Watts it would have to be something 'so amazing, so divine, (it) demands my heart, my life, my all'.
Thank you,
Tim
Surely Norman Lamb is nailed on as next leader?
https://twitter.com/SpecCoffeeHouse/status/875045200040783872
Swinson was talked about as next leader even when our polling position was so bad she wasn't favourite to win her seat.
There is growing anger among Tory MPs that May has misplayed her hand in these negotiations. By announcing that the Conservatives would govern in conjunction with the DUP, she made it so that any failure to do so would look like weakness. MPs believe that entering into a formal agreement with the DUP is not in the party’s interest as (a) given the DUP’s record on LGBT rights, it risks toxifying the Tory brand by association, and (b) it means the power is with the DUP.
They reckon May ought to have called their bluff. After all, the alternative for the unionists to voting with the Conservatives is a Corbyn-led government and given the low regard Foster’s party hold the Labour leader in, they’re unlikely to do that anytime soon.
Foolish comment MM. Unworthy of you.
https://twitter.com/taralepore/status/875006506437160960
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/14/miracle-rescue-desperate-elderly-man-saved-grenfell-tower-12/
To some extent, then, fire separation worked within the building, as opposed to the exterior.
I'm SHOCKED
SHOCKED I tell you.
The christian faith thing was a bit of a sideshow.
https://twitter.com/TomMcTague/status/875044650570199040
And recent Tory Cabinets have not been without duds.
Which LibDem ended up in prison but didn't lose their seat ?
#FeelsOld
Paul Waugh reports that all Whips have been confirmed in their positions.
So that would be Alan Campbell, Mark Tami, Jessica Morden, Judith Cummins, Vicky Foxcroft, Chris Elmore, Thangam Debbonaire, Nick Smith, Jeff Smith, Karl Turner, Nik Dakin
Beliefs are strong in both sides of the argument.
He himself admits in his statement that he found it difficult reconciling his faith with leading an avowedly liberal party.
To expect the media (or his political opponents) to studiously ignore this potential issue during the election campaign is surely to hold them to a standard far higher than you would expect for (say) Corbyn, May or Abbott ?
Such treatment is part and parcel of participating in the democratic process. And always has been.
I assume he will stay on as an MP?
But I'd count resigning in disgrace having been sent to the wrong sort of other place counts as losing their seat.
And Eastleigh went Con in 2015 as well.
Imagine how proud I am to lead this party. And then imagine what would lead me to voluntarily relinquish that honour.
In the words of Isaac Watts it would have to be something 'so amazing, so divine, (it) demands my heart, my life, my all'.
What was it? I think it was God.
Her Chiefs of Staff are gone.
Her Chancellor is someone she wanted to sack, but is now making demands of her.
She wanted to demote Boris to the Party Chairmanship, is now keeping her in power.
All self inflicted wounds, but there we are.
Meanwhile, it's interesting to know that Private Eye lurk on PB.
I'm pretty sure that a) 10 mins ago the market said Farron was the winner, just after suspension and b) the list was of main party - not UKIP.
Anyone else?
Do we have a Tory like that?
(The above isn't a code for a Remain BINO sell out either)
https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/875052138547826688
I wonder if a Muslim leader would have been asked the same questions? I suspect not.
I respect his beliefs, and while I might not share them I wouldn't dream of suggesting that he ought not to hold them - but if so strongly held, then their incompatibility with leading a secular liberal party was always going to be there.
Shadow Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government and Shadow Minister for the Constitutional Convention: Andrew Gwynne. He replaces Teresa Pearce who already said some months ago she would going to step down from the role
Shadow Secretary for Scotland: Lesley Laird
Shadow Secretary for Northern Ireland: Owen Smith
Shadow minister for Diverse communities: Dawn Butler
Anyone but Boris.
But I can't vote for David Davis, or what I call the headbanging Tombstone group/Hard Brexit gives them the wood.
"And for you Owen"
"Northern Ireland"
All cabinet ministers get marks for staying the course against the odds. Cable more so as he was essential for keeping his wing of the LibDems on board. Barely a week passed without ill informed comment on Vince leaving. In fact he was totally committed to the Coalition - ensuring "strong and stable government". Remember that?
Many moons ago Mrs T thought privatizing the Post Office utterly impossible. If you'd have told her a LibDem would have championed it into fruition she'd have had you locked up for your own safety.
Cable, Davey and all the LibDem ministers have plenty of credit in the bank in my view. I have little doubt they knew that the junior partner was in for a shellacking at the 2015 election. In 2010 they put the country first. The nation was not grateful five years later. Politics is a brutal business, twas ever thus.
"Has beens who never were" you say - Wildly off the mark old chap.
If you need to work in partnership, you don't want a deal that's too good, because you don't want a resentful partner. The DUP need to remember that.