What's really silly is that Ladbrokes max politics payout is apparently 250k, so this punter basically got a 249/1 price for something that's about as likely as Elvis for next President.
Shadsy said he would have paid out the £1m.
(yes he said "would've" - WHAT DOES HE KNOW????)
That's very generous of him.
What Shadsy doesn't know is that at 10:01 the tory party are merging with the Greens...
@ScottyNational: News: Fun had as people take their pets along as they vote - such as dogs, cats, and, for SNP candidates, a Scottish Green Party member
(Is it legal for bookies to take a bet which *cannot* be won?)
457 in E&W, so not impossible.
No, it is not legal to take a bet that cannot be won. It's why they have to price up even the most ridiculous no-hoper.
And I'm sure Lads would be delighted to pay out in full. It's effectively a skinner - every other bet loses, and more than compensates the cost of the one big payout. That's apart from the fantastic publicity of course.
Leicester winning the EPL was brilliant for business.
i will take great pleasure in seeing paul mason getting upset tonight when (hopefully) we get a tory majority
I am unsure about this supposed call to members. I am a member and have had nothing so this idea that its the whole membership is questionable. Maybe a spoof. I see its addressed to Paul for example!
Presumably sent to those that opted in to certain email marketing. Political parties can get into trouble if they don't follow the rules. I believe Better Together (Scottish independence referendum) were fined for this.
I get many emails from the Conservatives. Many.
I didn't get this one.
There seems to be a real lack of understanding about how sophisticated it is possible to be with email marketing from people (Paul Mason), who ought to know better. Targeted messaging wins elections these days and the Tories seem to be good at it.
I got the email (plus had an early GOTV call) - am in Lab marginal, so it's possible they are targeting
@ScottyNational: News: Fun had as people take their pets along as they vote - such as dogs, cats, and, for SNP candidates, a Scottish Green Party member
Sadly there has been far too much of it from the Left in this election and I find it disturbing. If youngsters think this is how democracy operates then I'm concerned for the future. The most left-wing Labour Prime Minister in history, and arguably their most successful in terms of achievement, was at the same time a gentleman.
Good afternoon from Ochil and South Perthshire. Delurking temporarily to say thank to all who have made this site and the comments essential reading as always during this GE campaign.
Tenth piece of Tory literature arrived with this morning's post (cf SNP: 2; Labour: 1; LD: 1). Tories are really going for it and my gut is they may do it here. Tasmina A-S not universally adored despite her talents as a self-publicist and media darling. Tories have run a vigorous and high vis campaign. Overall, am expecting a good night for them up here and a bad night for the SNP (in relative terms).
Tory majority: 148. Theresa Imperious though undeservedly so after a shocking campaign.
Voted at half 9 this morning. Rural polling station. Elderly demographic. Steady, I'd say. Started persisting it down around 10am and forecast to continue doing so until 8ish tonight.
Enjoy the evening's festivities. Back to lurking now.
Popped out to the shops and posted a letter in the post box on the way . Just before me an old biddy put in the post box her completed postal ballot paper/envelopes . I did not have the heart to tell her that it will arrive too late to be counted .
Isn't it important that everyone votes - you should have told her to take it to the polling station in person
That Ladbrokes bet makes sense as a cheapish marketing ploy from the Greens or, more likely, one of their donors. Only alternative is the small chance that the lads from the K Foundation have come into some money again.
on the subject of the K foundation - intrigued by this
@ScottyNational: News: Fun had as people take their pets along as they vote - such as dogs, cats, and, for SNP candidates, a Scottish Green Party member
Good afternoon from Ochil and South Perthshire. Delurking temporarily to say thank to all who have made this site and the comments essential reading as always during this GE campaign.
Tenth piece of Tory literature arrived with this morning's post (cf SNP: 2; Labour: 1; LD: 1). Tories are really going for it and my gut is they may do it here. Tasmina A-S not universally adored despite her talents as a self-publicist and media darling. Tories have run a vigorous and high vis campaign. Overall, am expecting a good night for them up here and a bad night for the SNP (in relative terms).
Tory majority: 148. Theresa Imperious though undeservedly so after a shocking campaign.
Voted at half 9 this morning. Rural polling station. Elderly demographic. Steady, I'd say. Started persisting it down around 10am and forecast to continue doing so until 8ish tonight.
Enjoy the evening's festivities. Back to lurking now.
What's really silly is that Ladbrokes max politics payout is apparently 250k, so this punter basically got a 249/1 price for something that's about as likely as Elvis for next President.
Shadsy said he would have paid out the £1m.
(yes he said "would've" - WHAT DOES HE KNOW????)
As the exclusion is almost certainly unenforceable, I imagine he would pay it out. It would otherwise be, see you in court.
I can't help but feel that the rabid corbynistas have drive more shy tories underground.
I'm fascinated by when and why Tories first got shy. I know they were a remarked upon phenomenon in 1992 but that was just the first time they were noticed.
As an experiment I posted a Conservative banner on Facebook yesterday (I'm not a shy Tory and never have been) and I got about 15 messages - 10 haughtily negative (lots of liberal metropolitan elite friends), 5 viciously aggressively angry. With one genuinely confused as to why it had appeared in her timeline.
How can it be socially unacceptable to share a political view with 45% of the population? Maybe Travel Junkie can enlighten me!
It all just kicked off in my office, a Corbynista became rude an aggressive (and had to eventually be taken to one side) when someone else questioned Corbyn's ability to negotiate Brexit.
The aftermath lead to a few first time Tories giving away who they voted for. If the office is anything to go by then some surprising Labour supporters over 40 decided to vote May to stop Corbyn.
I don't normally talk politics at work, but I was yesterday I was curios about tern out so asked a group of 5 of the young men who work for me, if they where going to vote or not. I thought that was safe as I was not asking which way there where voting. Dispite me explicitly saying I did not expect them to tell me which way they will vote all did 4 con and one Corbyn, and it started one hell of an argument. The Corbyn supporter clearly out numbered was non the less vocal and passionate. my fault for bringing it up, reminded me why I don't normally talk politics at work.
Popped out to the shops and posted a letter in the post box on the way . Just before me an old biddy put in the post box her completed postal ballot paper/envelopes . I did not have the heart to tell her that it will arrive too late to be counted .
Isn't it important that everyone votes - you should have told her to take it to the polling station in person
Maybe. But what people don't know can't hurt them... and it may be she'd been doing it for years, and would be upset to learn she'd been wasting her vote all those years. It's a bit of a tricky quandary really.
@ScottyNational: News: Fun had as people take their pets along as they vote - such as dogs, cats, and, for SNP candidates, a Scottish Green Party member
Popped out to the shops and posted a letter in the post box on the way . Just before me an old biddy put in the post box her completed postal ballot paper/envelopes . I did not have the heart to tell her that it will arrive too late to be counted .
Isn't it important that everyone votes - you should have told her to take it to the polling station in person
Maybe. But what people don't know can't hurt them... and it may be she'd been doing it for years, and would be upset to learn she'd been wasting her vote all those years. It's a bit of a tricky quandary really.
Who knows, if the collection is at 5pm Royal Mail might find the postal ballots posted today and deliver them especially.
Three good hearted elderly WWC Labour ladies in a coffee shop this morning, all breaking the habit of a lifetime and refusing to vote Labour because of 'that terrible man'. The beneficiary of their vote (they are dutiful citizens who always vote) will be the LibDem, a very nice and well known local professional man who hasn't a hope in hell in a constituency where the Tory vote is estimated in tons rather than counted.
I wonder just how much of this old fashioned, 'respectable' WWC older vote will do the same, or just not turn out for Lab?
There hasn't been as much focus on the Corbyn Yuck Factor as on the Yoof craze.
The LibDems would benefit.
In 1945, LAB got most of the votes of returning servicemen. AFAICS their equivalent today including those aged 20-40 are almost universally anti Corbyn. OK, their absolute numbers are not vast but they all have friends and family, and what one might call the Help for Heroes demographic utterly despises what the Labour Party is reduced to under the Marxists.
I can see several reasons for a significantly depressed Labour vote, especially in the WWC north and Midlands.
That Ladbrokes bet makes sense as a cheapish marketing ploy from the Greens or, more likely, one of their donors. Only alternative is the small chance that the lads from the K Foundation have come into some money again.
on the subject of the K foundation - intrigued by this
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Yes, Lefties are evil, unpatriotic, violent scum who can only aspire to all that is good and great about being a Tory. I know this, because I have read it several times, right here on PB.
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Yes, Lefties are evil, unpatriotic, violent scum who can only aspire to all that is good and great about being a Tory. I know this, because I have read it several times, right here on PB.
ok, perhaps I was generalising too much. Most lefties are the worst.
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
I have just been out in the garden. There I saw my neighbour's cat.
Despite my insisting that he didn't tell, he clearly indicated with his right paw that he was going to vote "for her".
As I walked the the polling station this morning a cat started meowing at me, and as I walked back it ran towards me. I think they're operating some kind of exit poll.
I can't help but feel that the rabid corbynistas have drive more shy tories underground.
I'm fascinated by when and why Tories first got shy. I know they were a remarked upon phenomenon in 1992 but that was just the first time they were noticed.
As an experiment I posted a Conservative banner on Facebook yesterday (I'm not a shy Tory and never have been) and I got about 15 messages - 10 haughtily negative (lots of liberal metropolitan elite friends), 5 viciously aggressively angry. With one genuinely confused as to why it had appeared in her timeline.
How can it be socially unacceptable to share a political view with 45% of the population? Maybe Travel Junkie can enlighten me!
Alas, I think Travel Junkie is no more. Pity, his posts were hugely entertaining.
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
My sister is a copper, she told me they were all ranting amongst themselves at her station yesterday about lack of police numbers and anti May rhetoric. She kept quiet and well out of it, one of her fellow sergeants who she is friendly asked her how she voted and she told her tory (postal ballot) she was ok with it, but agreed to keep it quiet.
I would imagine workplaces across the land have had division especially this election cycle and most especially in the public sector where Labour obviously gets a lot of natural support.
Slightly off topic.. is anyone here getting the big black dick whatsapps every 5 mins?
Reminds me of the time someone here complained they were seeing facebook ads for 'russian brides'...
Haha no its not that I am searching for them! There is a meme of a well endowed, prob fake, black guy going round. A bit of a wheres wally. You opne the attachment/photo and its always him! Maybe its just my mates sending them!
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
I wasn't thinking of Maidenhead rather than losing her majority if that happens of course
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Agreed, but you don't expect it from members of your own family. She's learnt a harsh lesson today about human nature and the pack mentality.
I posted earlier about a girl (18) that shared something.
The first response was from her *Dad*:
'Maybe one day you'll have a genuine thought of your own [name]... being influenced by new money shallow individuals is no excuse... don't be mislead! We'll get it from the magic money tree of course... take from the rich and divide it up fairly... get a conscience... there is a better way than greed.'
She's now been attacked by 5 or 6 different people and has had to post this: 'This is getting seriously out of hand. Everyone just calm down. Take a deep breath. And now fuck off and vote for whoever the hell you want! It's nobody else's business anyway!!!!!!'.
Slightly off topic.. is anyone here getting the big black dick whatsapps every 5 mins?
Reminds me of the time someone here complained they were seeing facebook ads for 'russian brides'...
Haha no its not that I am searching for them! There is a meme of a well endowed, prob fake, black guy going round. A bit of a wheres wally. Maybe its just my mates sending them!
I can't help but feel that the rabid corbynistas have drive more shy tories underground.
I'm fascinated by when and why Tories first got shy. I know they were a remarked upon phenomenon in 1992 but that was just the first time they were noticed.
As an experiment I posted a Conservative banner on Facebook yesterday (I'm not a shy Tory and never have been) and I got about 15 messages - 10 haughtily negative (lots of liberal metropolitan elite friends), 5 viciously aggressively angry. With one genuinely confused as to why it had appeared in her timeline.
How can it be socially unacceptable to share a political view with 45% of the population? Maybe Travel Junkie can enlighten me!
It's an interesting one. I guess Thatcher(ism) became associated with self-centredness and even selfishness. More recently, voting for right of centre appeared to align you with a UKIP racist message, which clearly wasn't fair but who wants to give a whiff of such an assertion?
Theresa's manifesto was actually pretty left of centre but when your opponent implies that you are voting for 'the few' rather than 'the many' it's easy to see why you'd keep your powder dry until that secret moment in the ballot booth.
I think there's one outcome tonight that no-one seems to have predicted: a huge Tory majority. I can seriously see it happening and I'm worried that I'm only covered up to a 159 majority.
Popped out to the shops and posted a letter in the post box on the way . Just before me an old biddy put in the post box her completed postal ballot paper/envelopes . I did not have the heart to tell her that it will arrive too late to be counted .
Isn't it important that everyone votes - you should have told her to take it to the polling station in person
It had already dropped in the box before I could suggest that . I honestly don't think she could have managed the 40 minute round trip walk to our polling station either
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Yes, Lefties are evil, unpatriotic, violent scum who can only aspire to all that is good and great about being a Tory. I know this, because I have read it several times, right here on PB.
Not all Lefties in general, but Corbynistas. I don't see any difference between them and BNP supporters. They are equally one-eyed, aggressive and vociferous in their beliefs. And equally odious. Two sides of the same coin, both sets of supporters deal in extremes.
Popped out to the shops and posted a letter in the post box on the way . Just before me an old biddy put in the post box her completed postal ballot paper/envelopes . I did not have the heart to tell her that it will arrive too late to be counted .
Isn't it important that everyone votes - you should have told her to take it to the polling station in person
Maybe. But what people don't know can't hurt them... and it may be she'd been doing it for years, and would be upset to learn she'd been wasting her vote all those years. It's a bit of a tricky quandary really.
Who knows, if the collection is at 5pm Royal Mail might find the postal ballots posted today and deliver them especially.
4 pm collection from this box . Don;t know where the post goes for initial sorting these days possibly Reading
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
With a majority of 30,000?
Haha. There are a number of different candidates standing on a stop Brexit platform. I expect the LDs to move back up to second and put a small dent in the majority.
Went past the Leisure Centre earlier and it's being turned into Fort Knox as that is where the count is. Saw a BBC van already in place.
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
With a majority of 30,000?
Haha. There are a number of different candidates standing on a stop Brexit platform. I expect the LDs to move back up to second and put a small dent in the majority.
Went past the Leisure Centre earlier and it's being turned into Fort Knox as that is where the count is. Saw a BBC van already in place.
In 2001 the majority was only 3k. Look at the seats around it if you want potential massive, massive, shocks, although given the LD campaign and Corbyn, I can't see any happening.
Popped out to the shops and posted a letter in the post box on the way . Just before me an old biddy put in the post box her completed postal ballot paper/envelopes . I did not have the heart to tell her that it will arrive too late to be counted .
Isn't it important that everyone votes - you should have told her to take it to the polling station in person
Maybe. But what people don't know can't hurt them... and it may be she'd been doing it for years, and would be upset to learn she'd been wasting her vote all those years. It's a bit of a tricky quandary really.
Who knows, if the collection is at 5pm Royal Mail might find the postal ballots posted today and deliver them especially.
4 pm collection from this box . Don;t know where the post goes for initial sorting these days possibly Reading
My Dad reckons this is the most important general election in years. I'm in complete agreement.
I would like to think he is right, because the alternative is that it is the most irrelevant in years as we all "knew" the result on the day it was called (I live in hope of a surprise such as no increase for the govt or even a hung parliament)
It certainly is the election with the worst ever selection of policies that I can recall and a dire choice of party leader for all the main parties.
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Agreed, but you don't expect it from members of your own family. She's learnt a harsh lesson today about human nature and the pack mentality.
I posted earlier about a girl (18) that shared something.
The first response was from her *Dad*:
'Maybe one day you'll have a genuine thought of your own [name]... being influenced by new money shallow individuals is no excuse... don't be mislead! We'll get it from the magic money tree of course... take from the rich and divide it up fairly... get a conscience... there is a better way than greed.'
She's now been attacked by 5 or 6 different people and has had to post this: 'This is getting seriously out of hand. Everyone just calm down. Take a deep breath. And now fuck off and vote for whoever the hell you want! It's nobody else's business anyway!!!!!!'.
The abuse she got is no doubt from the kind of people who deprecate bullying of any sort and take up the cause of the oppressed....but when their political views are challenged..
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Three 'friends' removed me from Facebook because I voted for Brexit.
One of mine unfriended me because every time she posted something anti-Brexit, I disagreed with her. Obviously my fault for assuming that if you post a political opinion, you might be interested in a discussion.
I can't help but feel that the rabid corbynistas have drive more shy tories underground.
I'm fascinated by when and why Tories first got shy. I know they were a remarked upon phenomenon in 1992 but that was just the first time they were noticed.
As an experiment I posted a Conservative banner on Facebook yesterday (I'm not a shy Tory and never have been) and I got about 15 messages - 10 haughtily negative (lots of liberal metropolitan elite friends), 5 viciously aggressively angry. With one genuinely confused as to why it had appeared in her timeline.
How can it be socially unacceptable to share a political view with 45% of the population? Maybe Travel Junkie can enlighten me!
Alas, I think Travel Junkie is no more. Pity, his posts were hugely entertaining.
Presumably he's joined Stuart Truth on the great Astroturf in the sky.
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Yes, Lefties are evil, unpatriotic, violent scum who can only aspire to all that is good and great about being a Tory. I know this, because I have read it several times, right here on PB.
Not all Lefties in general, but Corbynistas. I don't see any difference between them and BNP supporters. They are equally one-eyed, aggressive and vociferous in their beliefs. And equally odious. Two sides of the same coin, both sets of supporters deal in extremes.
I know a few Tories with Corbynista children - must be fun times.
Whereas I've voted Tory for the first time and my father (who once belonged to a Conservative club - though I never knew that until recently, and it was a long time ago) is now a Corbynista.
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Yes, Lefties are evil, unpatriotic, violent scum who can only aspire to all that is good and great about being a Tory. I know this, because I have read it several times, right here on PB.
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
That would be hilarious.
TM extending her majority while losing her seat.
It won't happen though.
I'm expecting quite large falls in the majorities in the safe shires, splitting to Lab and LD (which is very bad news for the LDs...)
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
Betting on the big picture, I'll be extremely happy if Alastair M or Jack W's forecasts come true.
I hope the declarations aren't 'excessively fascinating'. 10s-100s of gains and losses either way makes me nervous of some constituency bets.
I'm a bit confused why John Redwood is safe in Wokingham, a Remain seat, and TMay isn't safe in Maidenhead, a Remain seat in the same county.
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
That would be hilarious.
TM extending her majority while losing her seat.
It won't happen though.
I'm expecting quite large falls in the majorities in the safe shires, splitting to Lab and LD (which is very bad news for the LDs...)
I think Lab will nab a whole bunch of second places from LDs in the shires - risky for the long term LD prospects.
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Agreed, but you don't expect it from members of your own family. She's learnt a harsh lesson today about human nature and the pack mentality.
I posted earlier about a girl (18) that shared something.
The first response was from her *Dad*:
'Maybe one day you'll have a genuine thought of your own [name]... being influenced by new money shallow individuals is no excuse... don't be mislead! We'll get it from the magic money tree of course... take from the rich and divide it up fairly... get a conscience... there is a better way than greed.'
She's now been attacked by 5 or 6 different people and has had to post this: 'This is getting seriously out of hand. Everyone just calm down. Take a deep breath. And now fuck off and vote for whoever the hell you want! It's nobody else's business anyway!!!!!!'.
The abuse she got is no doubt from the kind of people who deprecate bullying of any sort and take up the cause of the oppressed....but when their political views are challenged..
It was just mental, seeing a Dad go in and savage his daughter's views, then her close friends joined in... on the Dad's side. Fuck me.
I can't help but feel that the rabid corbynistas have drive more shy tories underground.
I'm fascinated by when and why Tories first got shy. I know they were a remarked upon phenomenon in 1992 but that was just the first time they were noticed.
As an experiment I posted a Conservative banner on Facebook yesterday (I'm not a shy Tory and never have been) and I got about 15 messages - 10 haughtily negative (lots of liberal metropolitan elite friends), 5 viciously aggressively angry. With one genuinely confused as to why it had appeared in her timeline.
How can it be socially unacceptable to share a political view with 45% of the population? Maybe Travel Junkie can enlighten me!
Alas, I think Travel Junkie is no more. Pity, his posts were hugely entertaining.
Presumably he's joined Stuart Truth on the great Astroturf in the sky.
Craziness - true Tories live off the income from their country estates or investment portfolios.
We have jobs sitting in front of computer screens but Labour voters are down t'pit?
(I'd insert some kind of winking emoji if I knew how in order to show that this is an attempt at ironic humour and not in fact an attack on anyone, not least Corbynistas who might find out where I live and firebomb me.)
It all just kicked off in my office, a Corbynista became rude an aggressive (and had to eventually be taken to one side) when someone else questioned Corbyn's ability to negotiate Brexit.
The aftermath lead to a few first time Tories giving away who they voted for. If the office is anything to go by then some surprising Labour supporters over 40 decided to vote May to stop Corbyn.
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
Betting on the big picture, I'll be extremely happy if Alastair M or Jack W's forecasts come true.
I hope the declarations aren't 'excessively fascinating'. 10s-100s of gains and losses either way makes me nervous of some constituency bets.
I'm a bit confused why John Redwood is safe in Wokingham, a Remain seat, and TMay isn't safe in Maidenhead, a Remain seat in the same county.
Well you could make almost the same case, it has a long history of the LDs going close, and went remain.
Polling clerks report turnout pretty good, a bit higher than usual.
I asked if many young people had voted. They said "quite a few".
Didn't sound like any big increase in the youth vote but rather turnout up a bit across all age ranges.
Of course doesn't matter here as very safe Conservative - though implies the Con vote is turning out strongly.
Same polling station as me! I'll be there about 5.30ish Is it the usual couple manning it? I remember the first PCC election, I was the first voter they had seen for over an hour when I walked in there.
What's really silly is that Ladbrokes max politics payout is apparently 250k, so this punter basically got a 249/1 price for something that's about as likely as Elvis for next President.
Shadsy said he would have paid out the £1m.
(yes he said "would've" - WHAT DOES HE KNOW????)
As the exclusion is almost certainly unenforceable, I imagine he would pay it out. It would otherwise be, see you in court.
Does anyone agree with me that we could have all kinds of strange declarations tonight throughout the whole Country
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Theresa May's an interesting one. In Maidenhead, the Lib Dems were snapping at the Tories' heels until Dave detoxified the brand and it was heavily Remain. May has embraced hard Brexit and has turned her back on Dave's reforms. She might be toast.
Betting on the big picture, I'll be extremely happy if Alastair M or Jack W's forecasts come true.
I hope the declarations aren't 'excessively fascinating'. 10s-100s of gains and losses either way makes me nervous of some constituency bets.
I'm a bit confused why John Redwood is safe in Wokingham, a Remain seat, and TMay isn't safe in Maidenhead, a Remain seat in the same county.
I can't help but feel that the rabid corbynistas have drive more shy tories underground.
I'm fascinated by when and why Tories first got shy. I know they were a remarked upon phenomenon in 1992 but that was just the first time they were noticed.
As an experiment I posted a Conservative banner on Facebook yesterday (I'm not a shy Tory and never have been) and I got about 15 messages - 10 haughtily negative (lots of liberal metropolitan elite friends), 5 viciously aggressively angry. With one genuinely confused as to why it had appeared in her timeline.
How can it be socially unacceptable to share a political view with 45% of the population? Maybe Travel Junkie can enlighten me!
Alas, I think Travel Junkie is no more. Pity, his posts were hugely entertaining.
Presumably he's joined Stuart Truth on the great Astroturf in the sky.
My partner inadvertently shared a pic of the 'Proud to vote for Theresa May' on FB, so of course the same ad appeared on her page.
Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
Lefties are the worst
Agreed, but you don't expect it from members of your own family. She's learnt a harsh lesson today about human nature and the pack mentality.
I posted earlier about a girl (18) that shared something.
The first response was from her *Dad*:
'Maybe one day you'll have a genuine thought of your own [name]... being influenced by new money shallow individuals is no excuse... don't be mislead! We'll get it from the magic money tree of course... take from the rich and divide it up fairly... get a conscience... there is a better way than greed.'
She's now been attacked by 5 or 6 different people and has had to post this: 'This is getting seriously out of hand. Everyone just calm down. Take a deep breath. And now fuck off and vote for whoever the hell you want! It's nobody else's business anyway!!!!!!'.
Probably the best justification yet for a secret ballot on paper rather than internet voting.
My Dad reckons this is the most important general election in years. I'm in complete agreement.
I would like to think he is right, because the alternative is that it is the most irrelevant in years as we all "knew" the result on the day it was called (I live in hope of a surprise such as no increase for the govt or even a hung parliament)
It certainly is the election with the worst ever selection of policies that I can recall and a dire choice of party leader for all the main parties.
It is the most unimportant in my lifetime because whatever the composition of the next Government it will have little room for manouevre in respect of both Brexit and the economy.
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Guess what? She's started receiving abuse from members of her own family - including her sister. It's upset her, and I'm furious.
I need to cool down before I do something I regret.
And I'm sure Lads would be delighted to pay out in full. It's effectively a skinner - every other bet loses, and more than compensates the cost of the one big payout. That's apart from the fantastic publicity of course.
Leicester winning the EPL was brilliant for business.
Sadly there has been far too much of it from the Left in this election and I find it disturbing. If youngsters think this is how democracy operates then I'm concerned for the future. The most left-wing Labour Prime Minister in history, and arguably their most successful in terms of achievement, was at the same time a gentleman.
Just for this election. Unless Labour put McDonnell in charge, then I'll have to do it in 2022...
Tenth piece of Tory literature arrived with this morning's post (cf SNP: 2; Labour: 1; LD: 1). Tories are really going for it and my gut is they may do it here. Tasmina A-S not universally adored despite her talents as a self-publicist and media darling. Tories have run a vigorous and high vis campaign. Overall, am expecting a good night for them up here and a bad night for the SNP (in relative terms).
FWIW, here are my thoughts on the overall result:
Tories: 399 (12 from Scotland)
Labour: 183
SNP: 41
LDs: 6
Green: 1
PC: 1
Speaker: 1
NI: 18
Tory majority: 148. Theresa Imperious though undeservedly so after a shocking campaign.
Voted at half 9 this morning. Rural polling station. Elderly demographic. Steady, I'd say. Started persisting it down around 10am and forecast to continue doing so until 8ish tonight.
Enjoy the evening's festivities. Back to lurking now.
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As an experiment I posted a Conservative banner on Facebook yesterday (I'm not a shy Tory and never have been) and I got about 15 messages - 10 haughtily negative (lots of liberal metropolitan elite friends), 5 viciously aggressively angry. With one genuinely confused as to why it had appeared in her timeline.
How can it be socially unacceptable to share a political view with 45% of the population? Maybe Travel Junkie can enlighten me!
People seem so concerned about privacy and spying, and yet allow one of the most potentially intrusive possible devices into their living room.
Just so they can turn on the lights, ffs.
And will Nicola Sturgeon and even Theresa May survive
Whatsapp accessing your search history - you a fan of Richard Pryor?
Three good hearted elderly WWC Labour ladies in a coffee shop this morning, all breaking the habit of a lifetime and refusing to vote Labour because of 'that terrible man'. The beneficiary of their vote (they are dutiful citizens who always vote) will be the LibDem, a very nice and well known local professional man who hasn't a hope in hell in a constituency where the Tory vote is estimated in tons rather than counted.
I wonder just how much of this old fashioned, 'respectable' WWC older vote will do the same, or just not turn out for Lab?
There hasn't been as much focus on the Corbyn Yuck Factor as on the Yoof craze.
The LibDems would benefit.
In 1945, LAB got most of the votes of returning servicemen. AFAICS their equivalent today including those aged 20-40 are almost universally anti Corbyn. OK, their absolute numbers are not vast but they all have friends and family, and what one might call the Help for Heroes demographic utterly despises what the Labour Party is reduced to under the Marxists.
I can see several reasons for a significantly depressed Labour vote, especially in the WWC north and Midlands.
Vote efficiency ignored in this musing.
Despite my insisting that he didn't tell, he clearly indicated with his right paw that he was going to vote "for her".
This was enough to set off the dog next door, who promptly leapt the fence and chased him around my garden.
I am still clearing up the shit and fur. Oh for a more gentler age.
BREAKING: Paul Nuttall has already won his seat and is sat in the House of Commons wondering where everyone else is
I would imagine workplaces across the land have had division especially this election cycle and most especially in the public sector where Labour obviously gets a lot of natural support.
The first response was from her *Dad*:
'Maybe one day you'll have a genuine thought of your own [name]... being influenced by new money shallow individuals is no excuse... don't be mislead! We'll get it from the magic money tree of course... take from the rich and divide it up fairly... get a conscience... there is a better way than greed.'
She's now been attacked by 5 or 6 different people and has had to post this:
'This is getting seriously out of hand. Everyone just calm down. Take a deep breath. And now fuck off and vote for whoever the hell you want! It's nobody else's business anyway!!!!!!'.
Theresa's manifesto was actually pretty left of centre but when your opponent implies that you are voting for 'the few' rather than 'the many' it's easy to see why you'd keep your powder dry until that secret moment in the ballot booth.
I think there's one outcome tonight that no-one seems to have predicted: a huge Tory majority. I can seriously see it happening and I'm worried that I'm only covered up to a 159 majority.
TM extending her majority while losing her seat.
It won't happen though.
Was there a Canary involved at all?
You cannot win. I generally keep politics off FB.
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Went past the Leisure Centre earlier and it's being turned into Fort Knox as that is where the count is. Saw a BBC van already in place.
in fact it's an implementation of an idea that tim came up, to allow him to turn off the lights "in all the wings of his house" at the same time
From an intermittent lurker, a vote of thanks to the posters of this site for all your wit and wisdom.
Polling clerks report turnout pretty good, a bit higher than usual.
I asked if many young people had voted. They said "quite a few".
Didn't sound like any big increase in the youth vote but rather turnout up a bit across all age ranges.
Of course doesn't matter here as very safe Conservative - though implies the Con vote is turning out strongly.
Mostly by process of elimination.
Give me a viable moderate party, headed by someone like Nick Clegg - or a non-nutty tory or labour MP & I'd vote for them without a second thought.
Politics has a huge vacuum in the middle right now.
It certainly is the election with the worst ever selection of policies that I can recall and a dire choice of party leader for all the main parties.
Whereas I've voted Tory for the first time and my father (who once belonged to a Conservative club - though I never knew that until recently, and it was a long time ago) is now a Corbynista.
Betting on the big picture, I'll be extremely happy if Alastair M or Jack W's forecasts come true.
I hope the declarations aren't 'excessively fascinating'. 10s-100s of gains and losses either way makes me nervous of some constituency bets.
I'm a bit confused why John Redwood is safe in Wokingham, a Remain seat, and TMay isn't safe in Maidenhead, a Remain seat in the same county.
(I'd insert some kind of winking emoji if I knew how in order to show that this is an attempt at ironic humour and not in fact an attack on anyone, not least Corbynistas who might find out where I live and firebomb me.)
I'll be there about 5.30ish
Is it the usual couple manning it?
I remember the first PCC election, I was the first voter they had seen for over an hour when I walked in there.