Only two forecasts have the Lib Dems in double figures. Meanwhile, you can still back them for 3.2 under 10 seats on Betfair.
Thrasher SNP forecast stretches the bounds of credibility.
Where was it originally published?
Don't know. As I remember from 2015 both Trasher and Hanratty undershot the SNP total by quite a lot and it seems this time they are going the other way.
Must keep an eye on Hull, and particularly the seat Michelle Dewberry is standing in - if she can take votes from Lab and Tories sneak through, I'm in the money. Not hopeful though, not sure how much traction if any she might get as an Indy.
Can we keep track of the most optimistic prediction of a gain by any party today?
Bootle Tories are optimistic about their chances?
Current entrants: Lib Dems for Vauxhall, Conservatives for Bolsover, Greens for Isle of Wight (thanks @volcanopete), independent for Devon East. Labour seem more muted this time.
I know that I shouldn't say this as a candidate, and obviously all our candidates are fighting hard for every vote, but I'm not going be claiming "Potential Pirate Gain"
Reykjavik South?
Brigg and Goole?
Or Aaaarrrgghhyle and Bute Blackbeard and Broughton
That could and should have been the GE campaign...Every day a new story about jezza the terrorist sympathizer.
It was. The Daily Mail, Times, Telegraph, Express and Sun have all been at him over it for days and days.
Tell it not in Gath, but the Redtops influence, and arguably decide, the election. Based on yesterday's and today's front pages, Labour are in for a pasting today.
Can we keep track of the most optimistic prediction of a gain by any party today?
Con gain Bolsover
Con Gain Slough/Bolsover, Labour Gain Canterbury/K&C/Barnet/Battersea. LD gain Cheltenham/ Solihull / Guildford.
No way does Solihull go LD...
May and Farron were there yesterday.
I know but Solihull voted overwhelmingly for Andy Street and the left will split more than ever between Labour and LD. Lorely Burt had a strong personal vote but that's gone now too.
New poll update. In my model, 98% turnout for 18-24 year olds electrified by Corbyn and 60% turnout for over 65’s losing faith in May. #GE17pic.twitter.com/JCwOTuzH9j
New poll update. In my model, 98% turnout for 18-24 year olds electrified by Corbyn and 60% turnout for over 65’s losing faith in May. #GE17pic.twitter.com/JCwOTuzH9j
Can we keep track of the most optimistic prediction of a gain by any party today?
Bootle Tories are optimistic about their chances?
Current entrants: Lib Dems for Vauxhall, Conservatives for Bolsover, Greens for Isle of Wight (thanks @volcanopete), independent for Devon East. Labour seem more muted this time.
I know that I shouldn't say this as a candidate, and obviously all our candidates are fighting hard for every vote, but I'm not going be claiming "Potential Pirate Gain"
But if it is mighty close, you could have influenced the outcome.
Can I just say, thank you to all the candidates who are standing - especially the ones who know they are going to lose. Democracy really wouldn't work without you.
Taking part and losing isn't a loss. For the same reason lawyers go into court to defend a client they know is guilty.
You're helping towards victory for the right reasons.
I said right at the start that a majority of around 50 would be fine. Think it may be in that region still. Scotland could be exceptionally good but in my head I still struggle to see the Scons get more than 3/4
I don’t currently bet and I’m not nearly as interested in the details of politics as many of the people on this site. Nonetheless, I occasionally visit because comments here are often more astute than most paid media political columnists can manage. Also funnier.
Which brings up the obvious question – the Mrs Merton question: “So Jeremy Corbyn (admirer of Lenin and Trotsky), John McDonnell (Marxist) and Seamus Milne (Stalinist), why would you put forward a manifesto filled with bribes to get as many people as possible to vote for you which you’ll never have a chance to put into practice because you’ll have no money, the economy will be in ruins, leading to civil disorder and a state of emergency in which the government will assume draconian powers, future elections will be cancelled and opposition will be outlawed, leaving you in power indefinitely? No, no don’t tell me...I’ll get it in a minute...um...oh...ah...now I get it...damn”
Many people will vote Labour with good intentions. But I’m struggling to find a metaphor in which someone shoots themselves and their family and friends in the head with good intentions. Corbyn et al have made clear their intentions throughout their political careers. Over the years I’ve voted Tory, Labour and none-of-the above. Usually I’ve thought it didn’t matter a great deal one way or another. This time it does. If you vote Labour and Corbyn forms a government, there’s a good chance you’ll regret it. “Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. But soon. And for the rest of your life”.
Welcome on board, Cassandra. I have voted Labour without the worries you have because:
A. Corbyn won't win. B. In the remote chance (less than 1 in 30) that he does, he will be heavily constrained. C. The shooting in the head has already happened with the Brexit vote. None of the parties know what they are doing as far as Brexit is concerned. The economy will be permanently damaged by it (if we are lucky, not massively so). In particular public finances will be very heavily squeezed. There will be no bribes, but there will be worse public service provision and higher taxation. That applies to whichever party gets to power. It will all be about cuts.
I don’t currently bet and I’m not nearly as interested in the details of politics as many of the people on this site. Nonetheless, I occasionally visit because comments here are often more astute than most paid media political columnists can manage. Also funnier.
Which brings up the obvious question – the Mrs Merton question: “So Jeremy Corbyn (admirer of Lenin and Trotsky), John McDonnell (Marxist) and Seamus Milne (Stalinist), why would you put forward a manifesto filled with bribes to get as many people as possible to vote for you which you’ll never have a chance to put into practice because you’ll have no money, the economy will be in ruins, leading to civil disorder and a state of emergency in which the government will assume draconian powers, future elections will be cancelled and opposition will be outlawed, leaving you in power indefinitely? No, no don’t tell me...I’ll get it in a minute...um...oh...ah...now I get it...damn”
Many people will vote Labour with good intentions. But I’m struggling to find a metaphor in which someone shoots themselves and their family and friends in the head with good intentions. Corbyn et al have made clear their intentions throughout their political careers. Over the years I’ve voted Tory, Labour and none-of-the above. Usually I’ve thought it didn’t matter a great deal one way or another. This time it does. If you vote Labour and Corbyn forms a government, there’s a good chance you’ll regret it. “Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. But soon. And for the rest of your life”.
Welcome on board, Cassandra. I have voted Labour without the worries you have because:
A. Corbyn won't win. B. In the remote chance (less than 1 in 30) that he does, he will be heavily constrained. C. The shooting in the head has already happened with the Brexit vote. None of the parties know what they are doing as far as Brexit is concerned. The economy will be permanently damaged by it (if we are lucky, not massively so). In particular public finances will be very heavily squeezed. There will be no bribes, but there will worse public service provision and higher taxation. That applies to whichever party gets to power. It will all be about cuts.
Another one blaming the Cons for the UK's vote to leave the EU when their leader was a Remainer, while Jezza was (and is) a Leaver.
It's good to see the PB Tories are keeping up their honourable tradition of stereotyping people.
Scots are drunks and young people sleep all day and are bone idle.
How we larfed.
You know Charlie Peters is Scottish don't you?
I believe Ms Vance also has Scottish heritage
And that well known Scotland hater, Angry Salmond also tweeted it.
I couldn't care less. It's just boring. Read down thread the endless posts about young people being idle and addicted to Playstation, afraid of rain etc etc. No wonder there is a societal generational split, if this is the level of respect Millennials get.
Well - less Surveymonkey and these newcomers Qriously (neither of whom are BPC members), the final polling average is (rounded to 1 decimal point): Con - 43.6 Lab - 35.8 LD - 8.0 ... which looks quite sane. Con lead of 7.8%. It all depends where the votes are, of course.
As bad a campaign as May and tiny tim had, Sturgeon seems to be the leading candidate for worst campaign, Indy support has dropped, she's losing seats, and her personal polling has plummeted.
It's good to see the PB Tories are keeping up their honourable tradition of stereotyping people.
Scots are drunks and young people sleep all day and are bone idle.
How we larfed.
Good to see the stereotyping of PB Tories is a ok though
No stereotyping – it's clear to read from the thread. 'Ha ha, they are all going to play on their computer games and forget to vote – brilliant – we don't want them to vote anyway.' Read it yourself.
Just as a point of hope for the bedwetters out there.
I can confirm that Charles Fifield, Conservative candidate in Bootle, will receive at least one vote. I doubt he'll get much more however, especially as he can't vote for himself.
8% a mid-point of the pollsters? A bit of a Theresa meh election if its right. Tories up a bit, progress in Scotland - but should have eviscerated Corbyn on Labour's economic offering. Suspect there's a bunch of seats they'll lose tonight by not very much - but won't be competitive in them again for a generation.
Labour still have big internal fight - goodish isn't good enough. Still a party of losers. They need to find more money to bribe more voters. Or else, get real about running the economy.
UKIP = Norwegian Blue (I suspect they will fall to 3% overall tonight).
LibDems need a bare-metal rebuild on policies (and walk away from the humungous distraction of Brexit).
SNP shine coming off, exposing the turd beneath....
Only two forecasts have the Lib Dems in double figures. Meanwhile, you can still back them for 3.2 under 10 seats on Betfair.
Thrasher SNP forecast stretches the bounds of credibility.
Eh? ....... That wasn't YouGov's final forecast last night!
There is some dispute about whether YouGov's final seats forecast is the final output from their model, which gives a seat projection, or their final poll, which in fact doesn't (though it does say "an increased conservative majority", so can be assumed not to imply a number below 311.
It's good to see the PB Tories are keeping up their honourable tradition of stereotyping people.
Scots are drunks and young people sleep all day and are bone idle.
How we larfed.
Good to see the stereotyping of PB Tories is a ok though
No stereotyping – it's clear to read from the thread. 'Ha ha, they are all going to play on their computer games and forget to vote – brilliant – we don't want them to vote anyway.' Read it yourself.
It doesn't take much bait cast out to get the po-faced to rise to the surface.... Lighten up. It might be your only chance today....
It's good to see the PB Tories are keeping up their honourable tradition of stereotyping people.
Scots are drunks and young people sleep all day and are bone idle.
How we larfed.
You know Charlie Peters is Scottish don't you?
I believe Ms Vance also has Scottish heritage
And that well known Scotland hater, Angry Salmond also tweeted it.
I couldn't care less. It's just boring. Read down thread the endless posts about young people being idle and addicted to Playstation, afraid of rain etc etc. No wonder there is a societal generational split, if this is the level of respect Millennials get.
Respect has to be earned by all of us. the voting record of the young is rather poor and that is inexcusable.
It's good to see the PB Tories are keeping up their honourable tradition of stereotyping people.
Scots are drunks and young people sleep all day and are bone idle.
How we larfed.
You know Charlie Peters is Scottish don't you?
I believe Ms Vance also has Scottish heritage
And that well known Scotland hater, Angry Salmond also tweeted it.
I couldn't care less. It's just boring. Read down thread the endless posts about young people being idle and addicted to Playstation, afraid of rain etc etc. No wonder there is a societal generational split, if this is the level of respect Millennials get.
I'm technically a millennial - and the fact is my generation and the one below it do not vote anywhere near as much as others. I hope that changes, even if it means votes for Corbyn, but if someone is making the argument that those people would vote if they could do so online, then how else but lazy and idle could that be described (and that is what prompted much of the comments, that specific issue)?
Now, if the argument is the young are less engaged with, not appealed to enough, that is something else, that is them not wanting to vote - in which case the problem is not idleness and the solution is the Corbyn approach of appealing to them more. But fact it some were making the argument the young would vote more if they could do so online rather than a short journey to do so in person, and I find that pretty insulting to young people, frankly. I'd rather believe they are disengaged and we should do something about that, than that they are lazy.
I don’t currently bet and I’m not nearly as interested in the details of politics as many of the people on this site. Nonetheless, I occasionally visit because comments here are often more astute than most paid media political columnists can manage. Also funnier.
Which brings up the obvious question – the Mrs Merton question: “So Jeremy Corbyn (admirer of Lenin and Trotsky), John McDonnell (Marxist) and Seamus Milne (Stalinist), why would you put forward a manifesto filled with bribes to get as many people as possible to vote for you which you’ll never have a chance to put into practice because you’ll have no money, the economy will be in ruins, leading to civil disorder and a state of emergency in which the government will assume draconian powers, future elections will be cancelled and opposition will be outlawed, leaving you in power indefinitely? No, no don’t tell me...I’ll get it in a minute...um...oh...ah...now I get it...damn”
Many people will vote Labour with good intentions. But I’m struggling to find a metaphor in which someone shoots themselves and their family and friends in the head with good intentions. Corbyn et al have made clear their intentions throughout their political careers. Over the years I’ve voted Tory, Labour and none-of-the above. Usually I’ve thought it didn’t matter a great deal one way or another. This time it does. If you vote Labour and Corbyn forms a government, there’s a good chance you’ll regret it. “Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. But soon. And for the rest of your life”.
Welcome on board, Cassandra. I have voted Labour without the worries you have because:
A. Corbyn won't win. B. In the remote chance (less than 1 in 30) that he does, he will be heavily constrained. C. The shooting in the head has already happened with the Brexit vote. None of the parties know what they are doing as far as Brexit is concerned. The economy will be permanently damaged by it (if we are lucky, not massively so). In particular public finances will be very heavily squeezed. There will be no bribes, but there will worse public service provision and higher taxation. That applies to whichever party gets to power. It will all be about cuts.
Another one blaming the Cons for the UK's vote to leave the EU when their leader was a Remainer, while Jezza was (and is) a Leaver.
Actually what I was saying is that it doesn't matter hugely who is leader after today because the key thing is Brexit.
The Conservatives have no meaningful plan for Brexit. To the extent they can mitigate the damage they are not going to do so, unless something unexpected happens. Labour have a slightly better approach to Brexit in fact, although it hasn't really been tested.
Just as a point of hope for the bedwetters out there.
I can confirm that Charles Fifield, Conservative candidate in Bootle, will receive at least one vote. I doubt he'll get much more however, especially as he can't vote for himself.
Just as a point of hope for the bedwetters out there.
I can confirm that Charles Fifield, Conservative candidate in Bootle, will receive at least one vote. I doubt he'll get much more however, especially as he can't vote for himself.
My Fb has been pretty politics free all election apart from 3 raving Corbynistas, 1 raving Kipper (though I think he may be EDL at this point), and a raving Scots Tory, the usual suspects. Yet today it has erupted in Corbynfever. People who I never knew to have any interest in politics at all are ranting about tories and ordering people to vote Corbyn. The shit some people post is ridiculous, there are people linking to the Canary!
(My FB is basically all within the 25-35 age range outside of my family so don't take this as 'anecdata').
It's good to see the PB Tories are keeping up their honourable tradition of stereotyping people.
Scots are drunks and young people sleep all day and are bone idle.
How we larfed.
You know Charlie Peters is Scottish don't you?
I believe Ms Vance also has Scottish heritage
And that well known Scotland hater, Angry Salmond also tweeted it.
I couldn't care less. It's just boring. Read down thread the endless posts about young people being idle and addicted to Playstation, afraid of rain etc etc. No wonder there is a societal generational split, if this is the level of respect Millennials get.
I'm technically a millennial - and the fact is my generation and the one below it do not vote anywhere near as much as others. I hope that changes, even if it means votes for Corbyn, but if someone is making the argument that those people would vote if they could do so online, then how else but lazy and idle could that be described (and that is what prompted much of the comments, that specific issue)?
Now, if the argument is the young are less engaged with, not appealed to enough, that is something else, that is them not wanting to vote - in which case the problem is not idleness and the solution is the Corbyn approach of appealing to them more. But fact it some were making the argument the young would vote more if they could do so online rather than a short journey to do so in person, and I find that pretty insulting to young people, frankly. I'd rather believe they are disengaged and we should do something about that, than that they are lazy.
We're disengaged. Corbyn has at the very least made a pitch to us (and a very tempting one at that), whereas I'm not sure May even knows that we exist.
The only policy really relevant to young people that I've heard has been the tuition fees from Labour, I'm not aware of a single other policy regarding young people.
Just as a point of hope for the bedwetters out there.
I can confirm that Charles Fifield, Conservative candidate in Bootle, will receive at least one vote. I doubt he'll get much more however, especially as he can't vote for himself.
Why can't he vote for himself?
I presume he doesn't live in the seat. It's the same for the Labour candidate in my seat.
I don’t currently bet and I’m not nearly as interested in the details of politics as many of the people on this site. Nonetheless, I occasionally visit because comments here are often more astute than most paid media political columnists can manage. Also funnier.
Which brings up the obvious question – the Mrs Merton question: “So Jeremy Corbyn (admirer of Lenin and Trotsky), John McDonnell (Marxist) and Seamus Milne (Stalinist), why would you put forward a manifesto filled with bribes to get as many people as possible to vote for you which you’ll never have a chance to put into practice because you’ll have no money, the economy will be in ruins, leading to civil disorder and a state of emergency in which the government will assume draconian powers, future elections will be cancelled and opposition will be outlawed, leaving you in power indefinitely? No, no don’t tell me...I’ll get it in a minute...um...oh...ah...now I get it...damn”
Cassandra, pardon me for saying so, but you don't appear to have quite the same lightness of touch when it comes to humour as that possessed by the late, great Caroline Aherne. Welcome anyway.
New poll update. In my model, 98% turnout for 18-24 year olds electrified by Corbyn and 60% turnout for over 65’s losing faith in May. #GE17pic.twitter.com/JCwOTuzH9j
Not sure if this guy is genuine of a really good parody account.
Labour voters are extraordinarily enthused (I saw three Labour prominent boards in a small East Hampshire town today, which has never happened before in the field of human history) and Conservative voters sullen and depressed.
Unfortunately, enthusiastic votes made with so much gusto they risk puncturing the ballot paper count just as much as resigned votes made in sorrow.
I haven't seen that much criticism of 18 - 24 group, just scepticism. Survation thinks that 4 in 5 will turn out to vote. Last election is was approx 44%. Does anyone want to try and argue that it will be closer to Survation than 44% even?
Just as a point of hope for the bedwetters out there.
I can confirm that Charles Fifield, Conservative candidate in Bootle, will receive at least one vote. I doubt he'll get much more however, especially as he can't vote for himself.
Why can't he vote for himself?
He is a councillor in Cheshire, so presumably lives outside the seat.
Brussels and other EU capitals will await the result of the UK general election with more than usual interest: it could have a major impact on potentially fraught talks over Britain’s exit from the bloc, scheduled to begin barely 10 days later.
In Jyllandsposten my newspaper of choice today is being called the British vippenvalg (seesaw election) because of the polls - pretty good name I thought!
On twitter Paul Mason and George Monbiot seem to have gone all in on bile while Ian Dale provides a great description of what has been a terrible campaign by all sides
Luckioy Danish TV has live coverage so won't have to watch on my ipad
I don’t currently bet and I’m not nearly as interested in the details of politics as many of the people on this site. Nonetheless, I occasionally visit because comments here are often more astute than most paid media political columnists can manage. Also funnier.
Which brings up the obvious question – the Mrs Merton question: “So Jeremy Corbyn (admirer of Lenin and Trotskncy in which the government will assume draconian powers, future elections will be cancelled and opposition will be outlawed, leaving you in power indefinitely? No, no don’t tell me...I’ll get it in a minute...um...oh...ah...now I get it...damn”
Many people will vote Labour with good intentions. But I’m struggling to find a metaphor in which someone shoots themselves and their family and friends in the head with good intentions. Corbyn et al have made clear their intentions throughout their political careers. Over the years I’ve voted Tory, Labour and none-of-the above. Usually I’ve thought it didn’t matter a great deal one way or another. This time it does. If you vote Labour and Corbyn forms a government, there’s a good chance you’ll regret it. “Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. But soon. And for the rest of your life”.
Welcome on board, Cassandra. I have voted Labour without the worries you have because:
A. Corbyn won't win. B. In the remote chance (less than 1 in 30) that he does, he will be heavily constrained. C. The shooting in the head has already happened with the Brexit vote. None of the parties know what they are doing as far as Brexit is concerned. The economy will be permanently damaged by it (if we are lucky, not massively so). In particular public finances will be very heavily squeezed. There will be no bribes, but there will worse public service provision and higher taxation. That applies to whichever party gets to power. It will all be about cuts.
Another one blaming the Cons for the UK's vote to leave the EU when their leader was a Remainer, while Jezza was (and is) a Leaver.
Actually what I was saying is that it doesn't matter hugely who is leader after today because the key thing is Brexit.
The Conservatives have no meaningful plan for Brexit. To the extent they can mitigate the damage they are not going to do so, unless something unexpected happens. Labour have a slightly better approach to Brexit in fact, although it hasn't really been tested.
Lab's plan for Brexit is staying in the single market and unlimited immigration.
I can't see that not causing trouble although the UK being what it is, perhaps they will get away with it.
It's good to see the PB Tories are keeping up their honourable tradition of stereotyping people.
Scots are drunks and young people sleep all day and are bone idle.
How we larfed.
Good to see the stereotyping of PB Tories is a ok though
No stereotyping – it's clear to read from the thread. 'Ha ha, they are all going to play on their computer games and forget to vote – brilliant – we don't want them to vote anyway.' Read it yourself.
Past history suggests they will forget to vote. Maybe things will be different this time, maybe not, but it is pretty factual even if you dislike the tone used to point out they typically have very low turnout compared to other demographics, even when they say they are going to turn out.
Regardless, since you appear to have no levity on the matter, I'll be direct and say the point was you have used a few people as examples and decided to suggest that is emblematic of an entire group, which is the very thing you claim to have been upset about, when it seems the tweet that so upset you was a self deprecating one.
Bluntly, try to lighten up - everything will calm down from tomorrow.
It looks to me a fairly accurate assessment of one of the seats in cumbria that I've had the opportunity to observe. I think it's wrong for Copeland though. The model has it on labour with 99. It really won't be that. The constituency is not going to flip back from only a few months ago.
No sign of Tory leaflets, was greatly amused by Daily Mail encouraging voters in Bristol West to back The Green candidate. There is a rumour that The Greens have been using a diesel van, to carry a placard. Haven't seen if it was a Volkswagen.
It's good to see the PB Tories are keeping up their honourable tradition of stereotyping people.
Scots are drunks and young people sleep all day and are bone idle.
How we larfed.
You know Charlie Peters is Scottish don't you?
I believe Ms Vance also has Scottish heritage
And that well known Scotland hater, Angry Salmond also tweeted it.
I couldn't care less. It's just boring. Read down thread the endless posts about young people being idle and addicted to Playstation, afraid of rain etc etc. No wonder there is a societal generational split, if this is the level of respect Millennials get.
I'm technically a millennial - and the fact is my generation and the one below it do not vote anywhere near as much as others. I hope that changes, even if it means votes for Corbyn, but if someone is making the argument that those people would vote if they could do so online, then how else but lazy and idle could that be described (and that is what prompted much of the comments, that specific issue)?
Now, if the argument is the young are less engaged with, not appealed to enough, that is something else, that is them not wanting to vote - in which case the problem is not idleness and the solution is the Corbyn approach of appealing to them more. But fact it some were making the argument the young would vote more if they could do so online rather than a short journey to do so in person, and I find that pretty insulting to young people, frankly. I'd rather believe they are disengaged and we should do something about that, than that they are lazy.
My OP wasn't aimed at you! But yes, I agree with some of that. That all said, the world has changed and voting has not changed with it. Walking into a booth and putting a pencil mark on a piece of paper seems completely anachronistic. It can't and should not last forever.
Brussels and other EU capitals will await the result of the UK general election with more than usual interest: it could have a major impact on potentially fraught talks over Britain’s exit from the bloc, scheduled to begin barely 10 days later.
Comments
Or
Aaaarrrgghhyle and Bute
Blackbeard and Broughton
I'll get my coat
https://twitter.com/CDP1882/status/872734101803065345
Scots are drunks and young people sleep all day and are bone idle.
How we larfed.
Senior Labour source: "I can't decide whether it's the end of the beginning, or the beginning of the end" #GE2017
Tell it not in Gath, but the Redtops influence, and arguably decide, the election. Based on yesterday's and today's front pages, Labour are in for a pasting today.
1) shower
2 vote for jezza
3 do loads of meth.
Apparently the order is important because he is concerned if the meth comes first he may forget about the other two...
FINAL POLL of 2017 Election from @IpsosMORI for tonight’s @EveningStandard: Con 44, Lab 36, LD 7, SNP 5, UKIP 4, Gr 2
The problem is, that Corbyn's supporters dismiss them as "smears".
Obviously, if the Government offered to throw me a million pounds buying copies of my books I'd accept. But as a general principle it's daft.
Con 44 (-1) Lab 36 (-4) LD 7 (nc) UKIP 4 (+2) SNP 5 (+2) Grn 2 (nc)
https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/872758791657410560
https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/872759722394488832
You're helping towards victory for the right reasons.
https://twitter.com/Number10cat/status/872717323706261504
A. Corbyn won't win.
B. In the remote chance (less than 1 in 30) that he does, he will be heavily constrained.
C. The shooting in the head has already happened with the Brexit vote. None of the parties know what they are doing as far as Brexit is concerned. The economy will be permanently damaged by it (if we are lucky, not massively so). In particular public finances will be very heavily squeezed. There will be no bribes, but there will be worse public service provision and higher taxation. That applies to whichever party gets to power. It will all be about cuts.
I believe Ms Vance also has Scottish heritage
And that well known Scotland hater, Angry Salmond also tweeted it.
Which is a pity, as a sense of humour might stand you in good stead in the days ahead
Edit - the tweet was from a student at Edinburgh University....
Ruth finished her campaigning last night in my home village, Fallin, this video was shot in my old street
https://twitter.com/stephenckerr/status/872525824918007809
Result: Lost on the way to the shops again
(*) excluding the two pollsters with no history who haven't released their data...
Con - 43.6
Lab - 35.8
LD - 8.0
... which looks quite sane.
Con lead of 7.8%.
It all depends where the votes are, of course.
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 44% (-1)
LAB: 36% (-4)
LDEM: 7% (-)
UKIP: 4% (+2)
GRN: 2% (-)
(via @IpsosMORI)
Chgs. with 01 Jun"
No stereotyping – it's clear to read from the thread. 'Ha ha, they are all going to play on their computer games and forget to vote – brilliant – we don't want them to vote anyway.' Read it yourself.
I can confirm that Charles Fifield, Conservative candidate in Bootle, will receive at least one vote. I doubt he'll get much more however, especially as he can't vote for himself.
Labour still have big internal fight - goodish isn't good enough. Still a party of losers. They need to find more money to bribe more voters. Or else, get real about running the economy.
UKIP = Norwegian Blue (I suspect they will fall to 3% overall tonight).
LibDems need a bare-metal rebuild on policies (and walk away from the humungous distraction of Brexit).
SNP shine coming off, exposing the turd beneath....
Corbyn Piling up the votes in Walton.
So far had three youngish Corbyn/Labour supporters turn up, who were very upset to learn they couldn't vote because they weren't on the register.
Apparently Martin Lewis had said you don't need a polling card to vote.
Now, if the argument is the young are less engaged with, not appealed to enough, that is something else, that is them not wanting to vote - in which case the problem is not idleness and the solution is the Corbyn approach of appealing to them more. But fact it some were making the argument the young would vote more if they could do so online rather than a short journey to do so in person, and I find that pretty insulting to young people, frankly. I'd rather believe they are disengaged and we should do something about that, than that they are lazy.
The Conservatives have no meaningful plan for Brexit. To the extent they can mitigate the damage they are not going to do so, unless something unexpected happens. Labour have a slightly better approach to Brexit in fact, although it hasn't really been tested.
Con 43.09
Lab 36.45
LD 7.55
UKIP 4.27
Tory lead 6.64
Good luck everyone!
(My FB is basically all within the 25-35 age range outside of my family so don't take this as 'anecdata').
The only policy really relevant to young people that I've heard has been the tuition fees from Labour, I'm not aware of a single other policy regarding young people.
Welcome anyway.
Labour voters are extraordinarily enthused (I saw three Labour prominent boards in a small East Hampshire town today, which has never happened before in the field of human history) and Conservative voters sullen and depressed.
Unfortunately, enthusiastic votes made with so much gusto they risk puncturing the ballot paper count just as much as resigned votes made in sorrow.
Brussels and other EU capitals will await the result of the UK general election with more than usual interest: it could have a major impact on potentially fraught talks over Britain’s exit from the bloc, scheduled to begin barely 10 days later.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/08/brexit-uk-general-election-result-may-have-major-impact-on-talks
On twitter Paul Mason and George Monbiot seem to have gone all in on bile while Ian Dale provides a great description of what has been a terrible campaign by all sides
Luckioy Danish TV has live coverage so won't have to watch on my ipad
50-74: 5.7/5.8
75-99: 5.4/5.5
100-124: 5.5/5.7
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.131146542
I can't see that not causing trouble although the UK being what it is, perhaps they will get away with it.
Regardless, since you appear to have no levity on the matter, I'll be direct and say the point was you have used a few people as examples and decided to suggest that is emblematic of an entire group, which is the very thing you claim to have been upset about, when it seems the tweet that so upset you was a self deprecating one.
Bluntly, try to lighten up - everything will calm down from tomorrow.
I guess she was hoping to win all 650 seats so the EU look like they are in the box seat.