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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited June 2017
    SAS...I presume that haven't been told by Tessie to worry about shoot to kill.

    https://twitter.com/DJack_Journo/status/871144332849491968
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 126,586
    Pulpstar said:
    Certainly if it is Trump v Warren no contest
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Chameleon said:

    It's sophisticated by the looks of it, but chemical attacks would be a new frontier for terrorists.
    A mass casualty chemical attack would be a whole new ball game
  • ManchesterKurtManchesterKurt Posts: 925
    edited June 2017
    camel said:

    Terrifying clip on Sky in a trendy looking bar, all the people being to lie down by the police. Sky apologising for having the word c**t at the end of the clip. Frankly at 00:40, watching on a rolling news the most shocking footage, I doubt anyone is going to be calling Ofcom about the bad language.

    I hope no posters have any children likely to be out in the area tonight. Worrying times.

    Wheatshef I think
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    Floater said:

    A mass casualty chemical attack would be a whole new ball game
    Yeah, that would be utterly terrible.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,095
    RobD said:

    Everyone should have a G&T right now. :)
    I am on the Jim Beam
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    MaxPB said:

    End all Islamic immigration tomorrow. Close all the mosques, ban the burka, ban halal meat production and importation, ban all Muslim schools private and state, cut all aid funding to Islamic countries that fund hate preachers. That's a start.
    Which school of Islam is the most problematical ?

    Saudi Salafism?
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    Chameleon said:

    'Jamie, a witness who was in a restaurant near London Bridge, told the Press Association: "We were in the Black and Blue restaurant, we heard a fight and everyone got up and everyone rushed out of the restaurant and we heard a massive, massive bang.' Sky news.

    Canisters a form of distraction grande maybe?

    Shit, been in Black & Blue many a time. Love a steak.

    Cnuts.
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    So Vauxhall incident isn't closed?
  • RhubarbRhubarb Posts: 359
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,647
    SeanT said:

    No. I calmly and lucidly believe this is what you are. Because it is the case. You've appeased Islamism for years, on this site. You're loathsome. There it is. Sleep well.
    Sean it's important that you have a narrative that assuages your panic. And I am happy to be the foil for you.

    You are so very far away from any insight or understanding of what is happening right now that I am also happy that you vent on PB to make yourself feel less shit-scared.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,273
    edited June 2017
    No updates for a long time, SAS now on the streets.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,095
    edited June 2017
    I'll say it. Diane Abbott could be Home sec in 6 days.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    edited June 2017
    Floater said:

    A mass casualty chemical attack would be a whole new ball game
    Borough Market would be a weird choice to test out a chemical attack. However given that the intelligence community had no heads up makes it seem that they are relatively sophisticated so therefore a chemical attack wouldn't be completely unrealistic, but a football match or train station at rush hour would be a much more effective target - unless of course this was a trial run of the weapon.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,794
    Pulpstar said:

    Blimey. Dereliction of duty that
    It was the same thing the Belgians did in Brussels for a long time. We actively took in these bastards as political asylum seekers who were claiming to be persecuted by secular dictators in the Middle East. It was a completely suicidal policy and was only reversed late in the day by Blair.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Pulpstar said:

    I'll say it. Diane Abbott could be Home sec in 6 days.

    Or maybe not.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    SeanT said:

    Horrific eye witness account, now, on BBC.

    They're just calmly cutting our throats in the centre of our capital. This is beyond unsustainable.

    You say that - but we will do precisely fuck all
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    edited June 2017
    Just to reiterate at this stage, there are no reports of a chemical attack other than mentions of assailants wearing "canisters", which could mean anything.
  • CyanCyan Posts: 1,262
    edited June 2017
    isam said:

    Copyright N Farage after Charlie Hebdo
    I looked it up to find out whether Nigel Farage meant those who on the surface are non-jihadist Muslims, secular leftists, civil libertarians, or whatever, while really they are committed to and actively furthering the cause of jihad - which would be a justified use of the term "fifth column" - but no, the racist wally meant "people from other cultures (who) remain within those cultures and (do) not integrate fully within our communities [sic]". So the chap I met who works as a driving instructor and who is a Hindu and who didn't know when Good Friday was (but asked me and we talked about different religious holidays) must ipso facto be a "fifth columnist"? Fuck you, Farage!
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,794
    Floater said:

    Which school of Islam is the most problematical ?

    Saudi Salafism?
    Wahabism and salafism. But there are loads of others and no form of Islam values men and women equally, it ranges from around a third all the way down to 1/40th depending on the sect. The value of infidels/unbelievers is also something that needs to be addressed.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    The cordon has a radius of about a km apparently. Can't see how that is small enough to be an actual cordon. Police cars still racing around with blues and sirens on.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2017
    That preacher guy was spouting hatred outside Finsbury Park Mosque for about 15 years and we didn't do anything about it. Obviously we hoped it would burn itself out but that proved to be the wrong approach.
  • spire2spire2 Posts: 183
    It certainly looks like this is a more serious incident than the Westminster attack. There wouldn't be this lockdown for a lone nutter
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,647
    Ship @SeanT, @FattyBolger, and @MaxPB over there to get all Corporal Jones on it again.

    (Max will need to get an early flight in).
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Borough Market & London Bridge are now terrorist attacks. Vauxhall was 'just' an unrelated stabbing.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    OK, so they aren't marauding around..
  • MimusMimus Posts: 56
    HYUFD said:

    We need action not words, people want a tough crackdown, they certainly won't get it from Corbyn but they want to get it from May but haven't yet, it was telling that the only applause for Nuttall in last week's debate was when he said passports should be confiscated from those travelling to Libya and Syria, polls show strong support for that
    HYUFD said:

    We need action not words, people want a tough crackdown, they certainly won't get it from Corbyn but they want to get it from May but haven't yet, it was telling that the only applause for Nuttall in last week's debate was when he said passports should be confiscated from those travelling to Libya and Syria, polls show strong support for that
    By Tuesday she may be getting questions from Michael Crick about a Trumpian travel ban.

    But if she raises the terror threat level tomorrow, there will be accusations (again) of politicising the incident.

    As PM, she has 4 days of pretty heavy security shit to get through, then an election to win in a calm manner. After that she can't act as she sees fit. I think in her heart she would like to see heads on spikes.
  • alex.alex. Posts: 4,658
    Chameleon said:

    Borough Market & London Bridge are now terrorist attacks. Vauxhall was 'just' an unrelated stabbing.

    Ten a penny in South West London these days.
  • Maybe the Manchester terror cell wasn't totally tracked down , as some feared. This is a very similar timeframe to the second spate of attacks that I think were attempted 10 days beyond 7/7, but seeming to be much more serious.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    Met Police:

    'Pls continue to avoid #LondonBridge #BoroughMarket to allow the emergency services to deal with the ongoing incidents'

    'Ongoing' being the key word.
  • CyanCyan Posts: 1,262
    MaxPB said:

    Wahabism and salafism. But there are loads of others and no form of Islam values men and women equally, it ranges from around a third all the way down to 1/40th depending on the sect. The value of infidels/unbelievers is also something that needs to be addressed.
    You really had better have a look at what some Judaists believe about gentiles while you're about it.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,647
    Chameleon said:

    The cordon has a radius of about a km apparently. Can't see how that is small enough to be an actual cordon. Police cars still racing around with blues and sirens on.

    There is a lot of confusion atm. The key is to go firm at any particular point and then work inwards or outwards from there. They don't know whether the attackers are in or out of the cordon but the perimeter will be a demarcation point they can work from.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    Chameleon said:

    Met Police:

    'Pls continue to avoid #LondonBridge #BoroughMarket to allow the emergency services to deal with the ongoing incidents'

    'Ongoing' being the key word.

    Well I doubt the got the SAS out of bed for nothing.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    RobD said:
    Well if they were then at lest we'd be likely to catch all of them, seems like one has slipped away.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,133
    edited June 2017
    Cyan said:

    I looked it up to find out whether Nigel Farage meant those who on the surface are non-jihadist Muslims, secular leftists, civil libertarians, or whatever, while really they are committed to and actively furthering the cause of jihad - which would be a justified use of the term "fifth column" - but no, the racist wally meant "people from other cultures (who) remain within those cultures and (do) not integrate fully within our communities [sic]". So the chap I met who works as a driving instructor and who is a Hindu and who didn't know when Good Friday was (but asked me and we talked about different religious holidays) must ipso facto be a "fifth columnist"? Fuck you, Farage!
    Yeah when Farage referenced Rotherham sex attacks and specifically mentioned Islam he was talking about the figment of your imagination that is a Hindu driving instructor :lol:
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2017
    Still okay to post election stuff?

    "Youth vote surges . . . in safe Labour seats"
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/youth-vote-surges-in-safelabour-seats-0ncpvp7cw
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,430
    Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

    Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

    Changes since April
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    Mimus said:



    But if she raises the terror threat level tomorrow, there will be accusations (again) of politicising the incident.

    She cannot take that into account. She is the PM and should, and would I little doubt, do what is best for security, not the election campaign. If someone wants to claim what she is or is not doing is down to the election, then fcuk 'em.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,273
    Unless the Met say they have got them you have to assume they are still on the run.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314

    Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

    Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

    Changes since April

    Lowest Con figure in ages.
  • ChameleonChameleon Posts: 4,264
    SeanT said:

    Canisters could be more ammo, just to scare, who the F knows
    Loud bangs were reported, so could be sound grenade thingies meant to cause chaos to make the attacks easier.
  • Tony_MTony_M Posts: 70
    MaxPB said:

    End all Islamic immigration tomorrow. Close all the mosques, ban the burka, ban halal meat production and importation, ban all Muslim schools private and state, cut all aid funding to Islamic countries that fund hate preachers. That's a start.
    Yup

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131

    Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

    Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

    Changes since April

    Tories sub 40...if that happens they are totally f##ked.
  • FattyBolgerFattyBolger Posts: 299
    TOPPING said:

    Ship @SeanT, @FattyBolger, and @MaxPB over there to get all Corporal Jones on it again.

    (Max will need to get an early flight in).
    Hilarious comedic reference. Well done. Very smart.

    How many dead? And why?
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    MaxPB said:

    Wahabism and salafism. But there are loads of others and no form of Islam values men and women equally, it ranges from around a third all the way down to 1/40th depending on the sect. The value of infidels/unbelievers is also something that needs to be addressed.
    Yep - us kufirs are just cattle
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    Cyan said:

    "Islamist" is a stupid word, and the "moderate" to "extreme" spectrum is confusing. What is an "extreme" Christian, Jew, or Zoroastrian? Does anyone actually see themselves as an "extreme" or "moderate" follower of any of those religions? People are more likely to see themselves as preferring to mix only with members of their own religion, or as not wanting to do that, or as believing that others aren't literalist enough in their observance, or are too literalist. A much more appropriate word is "jihadist". I don't like having to deal with semantics in this context either, but it's necessary, because words have power.

    Actually I think extremist is the perfect description, it is very different to fundamentalist. Everyone who belives in something should belive in it fundamentally however you should not take any belief to extremes as by definition you are coming up against the boundries and the extremes of the belief system. You are therefore an extremist.

    For example a socialist should belive a fundamental tenet of their belief system is redistribution, they are a fundamentalist if they believe this,and there is nothing wrong with being a fundamentalist. however if they then go beyond this and say for example they want redistribution or death that obviously is not a fundamental part of socialism and would be going out of the boundaries of socialism. They would be an extremist socialist.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,794
    Cyan said:

    You really had better have a look at what some Judaists believe about gentiles while you're about it.
    I know, but there aren't any Rabbis out there urging young Jews to kill us all because we're infidels and deserve to die. So I'll live and let live, plus Jewish people are very highly integrated into British society, for the most part and those that aren't are extremely peaceful and friendly.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    MaxPB said:

    It was the same thing the Belgians did in Brussels for a long time. We actively took in these bastards as political asylum seekers who were claiming to be persecuted by secular dictators in the Middle East. It was a completely suicidal policy and was only reversed late in the day by Blair.
    Mutti Merkel is truly a world class imbecile
  • LucyJonesLucyJones Posts: 651
    Thank goodness the Vauxhall incident is not terrorist related.

    I imagine the perpetrator got one hell of a shock when he saw the size of the police response!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,095
    Rhubarb said:
    Best of Britain
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    LucyJones said:

    Thank goodness the Vauxhall incident is not terrorist related.

    I imagine the perpetrator got one hell of a shock when he saw the size of the police response!

    lol, quite :D
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,430
    Should stress that Norstat aren't BPC, and they still haven't released the tables for their April poll.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,794
    SeanT said:

    Canisters could be more ammo, just to scare, who the F knows
    Could be to cause more carnage and explosions if they get shot by police.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    SAS...I presume that haven't been told by Tessie to worry about shoot to kill.

    https://twitter.com/DJack_Journo/status/871144332849491968

    Jezza will be very dissapointed
  • The_ApocalypseThe_Apocalypse Posts: 7,830

    Tories sub 40...if that happens they are totally f##ked.
    Yeah, and it's obviously an outlier given that even YouGov have shown the Tory share 40+. Put in the Angus Reid file.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited June 2017
    Is it just me or does the SAS helicopter look like they bought AirWolf? Do they have a KnightRider as their car?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,133

    Tories sub 40...if that happens they are totally f##ked.
    Don't worry it's all over
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Pulpstar said:

    I'll say it. Diane Abbott could be Home sec in 6 days.

    No fucking way
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 79,095

    Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

    Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

    Changes since April

    Kippers won't get 6
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,430

    Is it just me or does the SAS helicopter look like they bought AirWolf? Do they have a KnightRider as their car?

    I'm not sure that is an SAS helicopter.

    It looks a lot like one of the Met copters.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited June 2017
    isam said:

    Don't worry it's all over
    Until I hear DimbleBore depressingly say the BBC Exit Poll predicts a Tory majority of 100...I am shitting it. I like Canada a lot....to visit...
  • SaltireSaltire Posts: 525

    Norstat poll for The Sunday Express

    Con 39 (-3) Lab 35 (+9) LD 8 (-2) UKIP 6 (-2)

    Changes since April

    That leaves 12 for others which seems rather unlikely
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,647

    Hilarious comedic reference. Well done. Very smart.

    How many dead? And why?
    Listen, Fatty, we are all trying to assess and process what has happened and is happening. My aim is both to give my views on that, and also to place it in context. Perhaps you are a spotty nineteen-yr old. Perhaps you are collecting your WFA. We as a nation have faced threats before, the most notable one being that from PIRA over the past decades. We coped at that time, and harsh as it is to say, it is a bunch of guys stabbing a bunch of people and horrific as it is, it is no Mumbai, nor Warrington, nor Harrods.

    You, together with others on here, seem to be terrorised by it and I understand your response, it is natural for someone new to it all. I am trying to rationalise and contextualise it, to help you gain control of your emotions.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,238
    SeanT said:

    Declared terror incidents

    I'm amazed Richard Tyndall got it wrong. He's normally so sharp on this shit.

    Not really been paying attention to any media at all this evening until I asked my first question well after it had all kicked off. And since I had no clue what was going on I didn't see any point jumping to conclusions.

    Not sure how normal I am but I use PB almost exclusively as my first port of call for news these days since the rest of the media is such garbage.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    Saltire said:

    That leaves 12 for others which seems rather unlikely
    12% shy tories? :smiley:
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited June 2017

    I'm not sure that is an SAS helicopter.

    It looks a lot like one of the Met copters.
    The Verified journo said it was the SAS arriving. Do they not have their own transportation?
  • camelcamel Posts: 815
    MaxPB said:

    End all Islamic immigration tomorrow. Close all the mosques, ban the burka, ban halal meat production and importation, ban all Muslim schools private and state, cut all aid funding to Islamic countries that fund hate preachers. That's a start.
    Of all the potential counter-terrorism strategies that may be discussed at tomorrows COBRA meeting, I'm guessing banning the importation of halal meat will not make the top five.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,794

    Until I hear DimbleBore depressingly say the BBC Exit Poll predicts a Tory majority of 100...I am shitting it. I like Canada a lot....to visit...
    The idea that terrorist sympathisers and Britain hating communists could be in charge of the country in a week is making me extremely uncomfortable right now. I guess we all just have to trust that when people go to the ballot box they will know what to do.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314

    Not really been paying attention to any media at all this evening until I asked my first question well after it had all kicked off. And since I had no clue what was going on I didn't see any point jumping to conclusions.

    Not sure how normal I am but I use PB almost exclusively as my first port of call for news these days since the rest of the media is such garbage.
    PB is usually a pretty good aggregator at times like these.
  • chloechloe Posts: 308
    Floater said:

    No fucking way
    What a terrible prospect that would be
  • FattyBolgerFattyBolger Posts: 299
    TOPPING said:

    Listen, Fatty, we are all trying to assess and process what has happened and is happening. My aim is both to give my views on that, and also to place it in context. Perhaps you are a spotty nineteen-yr old. Perhaps you are collecting your WFA. We as a nation have faced threats before, the most notable one being that from PIRA over the past decades. We coped at that time, and harsh as it is to say, it is a bunch of guys stabbing a bunch of people and horrific as it is, it is no Mumbai, nor Warrington, nor Harrods.

    You, together with others on here, seem to be terrorised by it and I understand your response, it is natural for someone new to it all. I am trying to rationalise and contextualise it, to help you gain control of your emotions.
    Appeaser.
  • ThreeQuidderThreeQuidder Posts: 6,133
    .
    Brom said:

    The bar in the video is the crappy Katzenjammers German beer hall. Popular with hipsters.

    The Sheaf next door is much better.

    It also has two dartboards, I play there about 4 times a year. Last time I was there I left my umbrella behind.

    So, yeah, this feels pretty immediate to me.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,647
    MaxPB said:

    The idea that terrorist sympathisers and Britain hating communists could be in charge of the country in a week is making me extremely uncomfortable right now. I guess we all just have to trust that when people go to the ballot box they will know what to do.
    Thank god you don't actually live here.
  • camelcamel Posts: 815

    Tories sub 40...if that happens they are totally f##ked.
    Con+LAB = 74. Others 26. Way out of line with other polls.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,273

    The Verified journo said it was the SAS arriving. Do they not have their own transportation?
    They use the Eurocopter Dauphin and it sure looks like it.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,131
    edited June 2017
    MaxPB said:

    The idea that terrorist sympathisers and Britain hating communists could be in charge of the country in a week is making me extremely uncomfortable right now. I guess we all just have to trust that when people go to the ballot box they will know what to do.
    I am genuinely bricking it. I am not joking. No fan of May, but no no no to the alternative. I wasn't stressing about Brown vs Cameron or Miliband vs Cameron. I thought Cameron was the better option (although I didn't vote for him), but I wasn't scared of a Miliband government.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,647
    edited June 2017

    Appeaser.
    child

    Edit: so what would you do, General Kitson?
  • CyanCyan Posts: 1,262
    edited June 2017
    isam said:

    Yeah when Farage referenced Rotherham sex attacks and specifically mentioned Islam he was talking about the figment of your imagination that is a Hindu driving instructor :lol:
    Do you think I would make things up to support my argument? He's a real guy and why you think a Hindu driving instructor should be an imaginary entity I really don't know. Did you click on the link? Nigel Farage used "fifth column" the way I said he did, unless the Guardian badly misrepresented him by using their ellipsis to omit words showing otherwise. Also this was in response to Charlie Hebdo, not Rotherham. Perhaps Farage uses the phrase whenever he feels like it because he thinks it sounds good and makes him sound hard. Perhaps one minute his target is Moooslims and the next it's foreigners and the next it's non-whites or "multiculturalism". Re-read my post and you'll find out about a sensible way to use the term "fifth column", without reference to the babblings of some forgettable early 21st century British politician.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,794
    camel said:

    Of all the potential counter-terrorism strategies that may be discussed at tomorrows COBRA meeting, I'm guessing banning the importation of halal meat will not make the top five.
    I'd be surprised if it did! Halal meat is not a security threat, banning it would just be a tool used to reverse Islamic immigration. Those who are not comfortable eating non-halal will eventually have to leave, those who are probably aren't going to bomb, shoot or stab us.
  • nunununu Posts: 6,024
    HYUFD said:

    Perhaps but a travel ban to Libya and Syria should now be beyond question
    agreed. Iraq aswell.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    edited June 2017
    chloe said:

    What a terrible prospect that would be
    To be fearful of the prospect it to be racist, according to Paul Mason. Muppet.
  • The Verified journo said it was the SAS arriving. Do they not have their own transportation?
    Got to say, I'll be rather annoyed if the SAS don't have a smashing helicopter.

    Am hugely heartened by reports of people locked down in pubs, drinking through it. Some US News channel has tweeted a map of the Vauxhall car plant in Luton instead of the tube station, which has also given us the opportunity to take the piss out of them. Small mercies.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,430
    edited June 2017

    The Verified journo said it was the SAS arriving. Do they not have their own transportation?
    To be honest I saw another verified journo say he saw the SAS deployed to Manchester, but turned to be the NW counter terrorist police.

    It is just so happens they wear the apparel of soldiers.

    Years ago, one of my army buddies did an analysis saying where the SAS had been deployed in one year according to the media.

    He said based on the media reports, the SAS was a division plus sized force (20,000 soliders) not a regiment of a couple of thousand troops.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314

    Got to say, I'll be rather annoyed if the SAS don't have a smashing helicopter.

    Am hugely heartened by reports of people locked down in pubs, drinking through it. Some US News channel has tweeted a map of the Vauxhall car plant in Luton instead of the tube station, which has also given us the opportunity to take the piss out of them. Small mercies.
    LOL at that second bit
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,647
    SeanT said:

    Appeaser.
    That's it, Sean, let it out.

    Asking you same as Fatty: what would you do?
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    TOPPING said:

    That's it, Sean, let it out.

    Asking you same as Fatty: what would you do?
    What do you think we should do?
  • RobD said:

    LOL at that second bit
    Who are we, as a people, if we cannot come together at any time to mock Americans?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,133
    Did Owen Jones really tweet this? Not on his timeline now

    https://twitter.com/leaveeuofficial/status/871149486575374338
  • camelcamel Posts: 815
    MaxPB said:

    I'd be surprised if it did! Halal meat is not a security threat, banning it would just be a tool used to reverse Islamic immigration. Those who are not comfortable eating non-halal will eventually have to leave, those who are probably aren't going to bomb, shoot or stab us.
    Those who are not comfortable eating non-halal will eventually have to leave? That's not far removed from "rounding them up and sending them home". Wow!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,314
    isam said:

    Did Owen Jones really tweet this? Not on his timeline now

    twitter.com/leaveeuofficial/status/871149486575374338

    lol, what a knob
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917

    To be honest I saw another verified journo say he saw the SAS deployed to Manchester, but turned to be the NW counter terrorist police.

    It is just so happens they wear the apparel of soldiers.

    Years ago, one of my army buddies did an analysis saying where the SAS had been deployed in one year according to the media.

    He said based on the media reports, the SAS was a division plus sized force (20,000 soliders) not a regiment of a couple of thousand troops.
    'SAS' makes for better headlines than 'Counter Terrorism Police'. As you say, it's more likely to be the latter.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,238
    SeanT said:

    I was being sarcastic, you're a fucking pathetic dick when it comes to Islamism. A wretched tolerater of their hatred.
    Excellent. I was feeling a bit left out from all the random drunken abuse this evening.
  • spire2spire2 Posts: 183
    To be fair diane abott is useless. How about clive lewis?

    To be fearful of the prospect it to be racist, according to Paul Mason. Muppet.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 121,430
    Saltire said:

    That leaves 12 for others which seems rather unlikely
    Actually it is likely.

    5% for SNP/PC and 5% for Greens is plausible, the rest could be 1% others and roundings.
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