Who is watching though? It's Friday before the bank holiday and the sun is out, the viewing figures for this must be terrible and even if it gets repeated it's unlikley to be so beyond next Tuesday, when normal life resumes.
Didn't Corbyn also say he would never use a nuclear deterent anyway? So it begs the obvious question, doesn't it? His line is simply incredible, and this is the idiot his apologists would like to see preside over our defence.
Only an idiot presses the button
Probably true, but I do personally think we need to bluff and claim we WOULD use it to try and scare our enemies off, even if in the event we'd have no intention of actually doing so.
I don't like Jezza's position on Trident, but it's not anywhere near enough to sway my vote, mind.
If a rogue terrorist state like ISIS had managed to nuke, say, Bristol, and was threatening to nuke other UK cities unless we yielded, then fucking hell yes we would press the button and nuke Raqqa, hoping to wipe out their command and control, AND deter further attacks
Yes, you DAMN WELL PRESS THE BUTTON
And what would Daesh do if they believed that that was British policy? They wouldn't bother nuking Bristol and then making threats: they'd just nuke every British city they could. Trident is no "deterrent".
Didn't Corbyn also say he would never use a nuclear deterent anyway? So it begs the obvious question, doesn't it? His line is simply incredible, and this is the idiot his apologists would like to see preside over our defence.
Only an idiot presses the button
Probably true, but I do personally think we need to bluff and claim we WOULD use it to try and scare our enemies off, even if in the event we'd have no intention of actually doing so.
I don't like Jezza's position on Trident, but it's not anywhere near enough to sway my vote, mind.
If a rogue terrorist state like ISIS had managed to nuke, say, Bristol, and was threatening to nuke other UK cities unless we yielded, then fucking hell yes we would press the button and nuke Raqqa, hoping to wipe out their command and control, AND deter further attacks
Yes, you DAMN WELL PRESS THE BUTTON
For Bristol?
I mean, I'd press the button for London or Cambridge or St Ives. But Bristol. Hmmmm.
To be fair the cathedral is quite nice. It'd be a shame to lose that.
The Clifton suspension bridge is also worth keeping.
But if we could get ISIS to just target the university, it would be a Win-Win for all of us.
SO:If Corbyn's Labour ends up Losing by single figure percentage it could be that the constant sniping by the likes of you, John Woodcock and Angela Eagle have made the difference between a Tory Government and a viable alternative.
Re the novel interpretation about Government borrowing and bonds. Is the idea that they will buy shareholders out with bonds (as opposed presumably with Cash) which they are forbidden from selling or something?
Buy it with Cash = "borrowing". Buy it with "bonds that can't be sold" = paid for out of future revenues
Come on, that was a disaster, especially the terrorist and defence stuff. What will stick in your mind most - his flannel about 'hope', or the fact that he commemorated the death of IRA soldiers, and outright denied he supported the IRA? Trident?
Was curious to see what others made of the interview. I agree with the consensus. Corbyn could've been worse (got a bit testy here and there but not to a serious degree) but he did look bad on terrorism and Trident.
SO:If Corbyn's Labour ends up Losing by single figure percentage it could be that the constant sniping by the likes of you, John Woodcock and Angela Eagle have made the difference between a Tory Government and a viable alternative.
And I say that as a member of another party.
As a reasonably neutral observer I have to say that Labour's so-called rebel moderates' judgement looks even worse in hindsight than it did at the time.
SO:If Corbyn's Labour ends up Losing by single figure percentage it could be that the constant sniping by the likes of you, John Woodcock and Angela Eagle have made the difference between a Tory Government and a viable alternative.
And I say that as a member of another party.
I don't think SO believes a Corbyn government is a viable alternative. He doesn't oppose him purely because of his electability or otherwise.
Come on, that was a disaster, especially the terrorist and defence stuff. What will stick in your mind most - his flannel about 'hope', or the fact that he commemorated the death of IRA soldiers, and outright denied he supported the IRA? Trident?
Come on, that was a disaster, especially the terrorist and defence stuff. What will stick in your mind most - his flannel about 'hope', or the fact that he commemorated the death of IRA soldiers, and outright denied he supported the IRA? Trident?
That was a disaster for Corbyn.
It really wasn't. You've all been shouting IRA for weeks and he's been improving in the polls. It's all out there. Here's a tip. You need to focus on the things that affect peoples day to day life more, not cartoony politics.
SO:If Corbyn's Labour ends up Losing by single figure percentage it could be that the constant sniping by the likes of you, John Woodcock and Angela Eagle have made the difference between a Tory Government and a viable alternative.
SO:If Corbyn's Labour ends up Losing by single figure percentage it could be that the constant sniping by the likes of you, John Woodcock and Angela Eagle have made the difference between a Tory Government and a viable alternative.
And I say that as a member of another party.
I don't think SO believes a Corbyn government is a viable alternative. He doesn't oppose him purely because of his electability or otherwise.
SO:If Corbyn's Labour ends up Losing by single figure percentage it could be that the constant sniping by the likes of you, John Woodcock and Angela Eagle have made the difference between a Tory Government and a viable alternative.
And I say that as a member of another party.
What will do for Corbyn is Corbyn no-one else. You cannot hold the views he does and hope to win general elections.
Re the novel interpretation about Government borrowing and bonds. Is the idea that they will buy shareholders out with bonds (as opposed presumably with Cash) which they are forbidden from selling or something?
Buy it with Cash = "borrowing". Buy it with "bonds that can't be sold" = paid for out of future revenues
Acquiring those industries that make a decent return isn't necessarily a mistake in purely financial terms.
Meanwhile your defence of the government's QE programme is?
I think that by focussing such a large part of the interview on security and the IRA, Neil missed a lot of opportunities to examine his economic proposals. Not enough time. The clip on borrowing vs bonds alone showed the potential for him to sound very silly.
Come on, that was a disaster, especially the terrorist and defence stuff. What will stick in your mind most - his flannel about 'hope', or the fact that he commemorated the death of IRA soldiers, and outright denied he supported the IRA? Trident?
Come on, that was a disaster, especially the terrorist and defence stuff. What will stick in your mind most - his flannel about 'hope', or the fact that he commemorated the death of IRA soldiers, and outright denied he supported the IRA? Trident?
That was a disaster for Corbyn.
No spinning here...
It's an opinion I believe will be shared by a lot of undecided and waverers. No matter, he's got paxman next week then a public grilling on QT. No need to worry, though.
SO:If Corbyn's Labour ends up Losing by single figure percentage it could be that the constant sniping by the likes of you, John Woodcock and Angela Eagle have made the difference between a Tory Government and a viable alternative.
And I say that as a member of another party.
What will do for Corbyn is Corbyn no-one else. You cannot hold the views he does and hope to win general elections.
Not expect, probably. This week they can at least hope, which wasn't the case last week.
Re the novel interpretation about Government borrowing and bonds. Is the idea that they will buy shareholders out with bonds (as opposed presumably with Cash) which they are forbidden from selling or something?
Buy it with Cash = "borrowing". Buy it with "bonds that can't be sold" = paid for out of future revenues
Acquiring those industries that make a decent return isn't necessarily a mistake in purely financial terms.
Meanwhile your defence of the government's QE programme is?
Is the BoE independent in these matters, or is QE a government program? I wonder if it will ever be rolled up. I think it's around £300bn.
Not too late to piss on Labour's appeasement parade.
The last two weeks the Tories have to focus relentlessly and loudly on Trident, security, terror, immigration and Brexit. Far, far too much of this campaign has been fought, because of Tory errors, on natural Labour issues. LIKE FUCKING DEMENTIA TAXES AND WINTER FUEL ALLOWANCES
Grrr.
Agreed. But the Boris + May broadsides are actually pretty hard-hitting, and a great start. Now just have every Tory MP and media outlet repeat them 100 times a day for the next 12 days.
Boris and May are as hard hitting as a wet blancmange , Mr and Mrs Weak and Wobbly
Don't you support the Lib Dems? They aspire to the status of a blancmange, let alone that of a vertebrate
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On easier territory now
May was dull, boring and managed a pass.
Jezza is not dull, not boring and managed a clusterf*ck.
Poor.
But the average voter?
https://twitter.com/IainDale/status/868170372235108352
Where can we English get Leanne's interview?
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JC: “If the economy is doing well the need to bring in skilled workers [via immigration] would reduce.”
Novel idea about the demand for labour.
But if we could get ISIS to just target the university, it would be a Win-Win for all of us.
Somebody know if I can get a pallet of Pampers?
edit: I missed the IRA part seems like he messed that part up.
Much more personable than May.
First half of interview much worse.
May evasive Corbyn nailed on weakest issues
Theresa May ICI Prime Minister
I missed it, stuck at work.
And I say that as a member of another party.
Magnitude of effect will depend upon extent to which it is followed up elsewhere.
It's currently number 2 story on BBC News website - so it may get some clips on the BBC1 10pm News.
Buy it with Cash = "borrowing". Buy it with "bonds that can't be sold" = paid for out of future revenues
That was a disaster for Corbyn.
Was curious to see what others made of the interview. I agree with the consensus. Corbyn could've been worse (got a bit testy here and there but not to a serious degree) but he did look bad on terrorism and Trident.
Wages, House Prices, Hospitals.
Meanwhile your defence of the government's QE programme is?
HE WASN'T AN IRA SYMPATHISER, HONEST GOV.
If Corbyn was PM with a Lab Majority Govt, could he cancel Trident?
ie would it need a vote in the Commons - on which lots of Lab backbenchers would surely rebel - thus preventing the vote passing.
Or could it be done without a vote - basically by just cutting off the funding for it?
In any case I believe Dan Hodges is the legitimate issue of Glenda Jackson and her then husband Roy Hodges.