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Sporting Index CON 384-390 LAB 162-168 LD 26-29 UKIP 0.25-1.25 SNP 47-50

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    Fun times. I bought the blues the other day.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Fun times. I bought the blues the other day.

    Me too
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,845
    edited April 2017
    Second! Like Yes.....nearly.....
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    marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Apparently the ceremonial bit of State Opening on June 19th has been reduced as Trooping the Colour is on the 17th so no time to rehearse for both (from previous thread)
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    logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,739
    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?
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    Selling UKIP feels like free money given the announcement this morning but DYOR.
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    timmotimmo Posts: 1,469

    Selling UKIP feels like free money given the announcement this morning but DYOR.

    What announcement this morning?
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    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
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    timmo said:

    Selling UKIP feels like free money given the announcement this morning but DYOR.

    What announcement this morning?
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3424883/ukip-could-field-just-100-candidates-at-general-election-as-paul-nuttall-struggles-to-find-wannabe-mps/
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    Selling UKIP feels like free money given the announcement this morning but DYOR.

    Vote share yes.
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    Buy Labour on S/Ex and sell LD on S/I
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    Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    timmo said:

    Selling UKIP feels like free money given the announcement this morning but DYOR.

    What announcement this morning?
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3424883/ukip-could-field-just-100-candidates-at-general-election-as-paul-nuttall-struggles-to-find-wannabe-mps/
    Yay, I'm on sub 5%.
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 3,486
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,027

    Selling UKIP feels like free money given the announcement this morning but DYOR.

    Why on earth would you do it on the spreads ?
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    logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,739

    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
    Could be embarrassing.
    I guess all current MPs would want re-stand.
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    theakestheakes Posts: 845
    Cons and Lib Dems far too high. Labour far too low. Conservatives getting themselves into unecessary difficulties, pensions, teacher cuts/budgets, WAR etc etc. If Lib Dems not go into coalition with either May or Corbyn then perhaps those two will make a grand alliance to stop the SNP!!!!
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    Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    ToryJim said:
    Response to a question whether he was standing on a "No jews, gays, Irish or dogs" ticket.
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    Pulpstar said:

    Selling UKIP feels like free money given the announcement this morning but DYOR.

    Why on earth would you do it on the spreads ?
    I was talking purely in the sense of this thread.

    I was thinking

    Con - buy

    Lab - sell

    LD - sell

    SNP - Not sure but forced to I'd sell
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    edited April 2017
    Top news story on the bbc news.

    Can't the tories hide boris johnson until after the election,saying that we would bomb syria if trump asks and wouldn't need parliament vote will surely not go down well with alot of voters.
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    calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    Scott_P said:

    calum said:

    SLAB & SLID will quickly embrace independence once it appears inevitable .

    What will they do when Nicola inevitably loses Indyref2?
    If the Unionists are so confident of winning - why not just call the SNP's bluff and approve it?
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,380
    Tim fresh from some behind-the-shed spaniel sniffing.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/857565036532858881
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    RobbieBoxRobbieBox Posts: 28
    marke09 said:

    Apparently the ceremonial bit of State Opening on June 19th has been reduced as Trooping the Colour is on the 17th so no time to rehearse for both (from previous thread)

    It's usually on a Wednesday but The Queen doesn't want it to clash with Royal Ascot which runs from the 20th to 24th of June.
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    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
    Could be embarrassing.
    I guess all current MPs would want re-stand.
    Well Craig Mackinlay's file went to the CPS this week.

    This could get very messy.

    What does Alison Saunders do if there are multiple MPs to be charged ?

    Do it in one go or do it one by one and dominate a lot of news cycles.
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    Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 55,808
    I'm betting, but not on these spreads where I'm struggling to detect the value.

    I have two strats:

    (1) Back the dead-certs heavily (Tory majority, May as next PM, Con most seats..)
    (2) Look for value in the constituency markets

    The other place I've squared out a bit of value is the LD seat bands and Scottish Con seat bands.

    I'm alive to other suggestions.
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    Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
    What constrains them to decide before polling day?
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    TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 40,380
    calum said:

    Scott_P said:

    calum said:

    SLAB & SLID will quickly embrace independence once it appears inevitable .

    What will they do when Nicola inevitably loses Indyref2?
    If the Unionists are so confident of winning - why not just call the SNP's bluff and approve it?
    With the 'now is not the time' pish blown out of the water, answer came there none.

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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614
    '....what happens in the CON GE2015 expenses probe where the CPS will have to decide before polling day.'

    Have the CPS actually said they have to decide before the election? I know of no such declaration or ruling. Does anyone?
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    With the 'now is not the time' pish blown out of the water, answer came there none.

    This "now is not the time" pish?

    https://twitter.com/magnusllewellin/status/857104063485423616
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    TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Tim fresh from some behind-the-shed spaniel sniffing.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/857565036532858881

    Close in on the face - lol
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    Ishmael_Z said:

    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
    What constrains them to decide before polling day?
    Well the CPS/police one year extension to investigate further/come to a charging decision ends this May.

    You can't be nominated after the 11th, so you'd be forced to have charged MPs on the ballot paper.

    In the past Tory MPs charged with a crime have the whip removed which also complicates matters.
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    Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    calum said:

    If the Unionists are so confident of winning - why not just call the SNP's bluff and approve it?

    Nicola hasn't asked for it. And now doesn't want to talk about it
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    GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 20,942
    theakes said:

    Cons and Lib Dems far too high. Labour far too low.

    Yeah right...
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,845
    A strange reversal in the general election campaign in Scotland has seen the separatist Scottish National party clam up about independence, while the anti-independence Conservatives will not shut up about it.

    https://www.ft.com/content/1d9282b8-2b1f-11e7-9ec8-168383da43b7

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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,574

    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Probably not.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,252

    Tim fresh from some behind-the-shed spaniel sniffing.

    Is he played by Paul Whitehouse alongside Harry Enfield's Nuttall?
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    Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981

    Ishmael_Z said:

    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
    What constrains them to decide before polling day?
    Well the CPS/police one year extension to investigate further/come to a charging decision ends this May.

    You can't be nominated after the 11th, so you'd be forced to have charged MPs on the ballot paper.

    In the past Tory MPs charged with a crime have the whip removed which also complicates matters.
    Ah, gotcha, s.176 RPA 1983 imposes a 1 year time limit for prosecutions.
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    RogerRoger Posts: 18,930
    edited April 2017
    Interesting to hear Angela Merkel saying brexit means brexit therefore go f**k yourselves.

    In other news our foreign secretary says if the Americans go to war in Syria we would have no option but to join them. A man after Blair's heart.

    Corbyn looked down and out but I don't think any of us thought about the calibre of clown he'd be up against.
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614

    Ishmael_Z said:

    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
    What constrains them to decide before polling day?
    Well the CPS/police one year extension to investigate further/come to a charging decision ends this May.

    You can't be nominated after the 11th, so you'd be forced to have charged MPs on the ballot paper.

    In the past Tory MPs charged with a crime have the whip removed which also complicates matters.
    Ah that explains it then. Interesting. I'm sure May will have been well briefed in her statements regarding this if charges are forthcoming. She does have a mighty good get out clause, seeing as Cameron was PM not her. Handy.
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    CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 59,845
    edited April 2017
    Lib Dems shouldn't count on Remain votes - the data looks bleak
    Conventional wisdom suggests the Tories could bleed Remain votes to the Lib Dems. Our detailed data analysis suggests this idea could be very wrong indeed......

    Our model sees the Tories on 422 seats, with Labour reduced to just 150, and the Lib Dems declining from 9 to 6. The Conservative majority would be north of 190. Labour would be wiped out beyond what most people are currently predicting. Leadership candidates like Clive Lewis would no longer be leadership candidates, because they would no longer be MPs.


    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/apr/27/lib-dems-shouldnt-count-on-remain-votes-the-data-looks-bleak
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    Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256

    Top news story on the bbc news.

    Can't the tories hide boris johnson until after the election,saying that we would bomb syria if trump asks and wouldn't need parliament vote will surely not go down well with alot of voters.

    It certainly is not going down well with this particular voter :)
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    MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    GIN1138 said:

    theakes said:

    Cons and Lib Dems far too high. Labour far too low.

    Yeah right...
    Not a market I will be tempted to bet on before the locals but I agree Con too high Lab too low LDs will move after locals probably to a higher level then will certainly be too high .
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 63,068
    If nothing else, this election has provided us with a variation on the Royal fresh paint fallacy...

    "I’m out on the streets and the doorsteps and the meeting halls every day and that’s not what I’m finding. I’m finding the enthusiasm of people at the prospect of doing things differently to work for everyone and I’m enjoying it..."
    J Corbyn
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    edited April 2017

    Well the CPS/police one year extension to investigate further/come to a charging decision ends this May.

    Presumably the 7th May, right? Anniversary of the 2015 election. That means a week Friday in practice. Or is it from the date of the expenses declaration?
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    I'd be with OGH ... holding onto my cash for now. In the first week or so after the GE announcement, the spread on the Tory seats increased by approx 10 seats, whilst Labour seat spreads decreased by a similar amount. Both appear to have steadied, doubtless awaiting the next round of polls and generally current spreads accord with the bookies' under/over seat number for each of the main parties.

    Mike's certainly right in calling it a high risk:high reward form of betting, bearing in mind that the two major parties are set to win around 550 seats between them and it's a brave punter who will bet on how these spoils will eventually be shared. This also means that unless you are able to open a credit account with the spread-betting firm which for obvious reasons is much more demanding than doing so with a conventional bookie, then you will have to deposit a sum equal to your maximum loss, which can prove very expensive.

    Good luck if you decide to have a go, but if this is your first excursion into spread-betting, limit yourself to very small stakes per seat, remembering that your eventual profit could be multiplied 40 - 60 times or potentially a good more than this even. It also means that you'll be stuck in front of the TV screen, watching every single seat result being announced. The spread-betting firms generally stay open for most of the night, enabling you to close your position should you so decide, otherwise your profit/loss will only be decided when every last result has been declared which can take a day or two or in the case of the last GE, a month or two when one candidate unfortunately died in the run-up to polling day and the contest for the seat in question had to re-arranged.
    DYOR.
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    EssexmanEssexman Posts: 19

    GIN1138 said:

    theakes said:

    Cons and Lib Dems far too high. Labour far too low.

    Yeah right...
    Not a market I will be tempted to bet on before the locals but I agree Con too high Lab too low LDs will move after locals probably to a higher level then will certainly be too high .
    Wishful thinking
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    Well the CPS/police one year extension to investigate further/come to a charging decision ends this May.

    Presumably the 7th May, right? Anniversary of the 2015 election. That means a week Friday.
    Nope, it's early June, from when the candidates have to file their election expenses return which I believe is 5 weeks from election day.

    Looking here,

    But the police force was granted an extra 12 months to investigate the claims that Mackinlay and his agent exceeded the legal spending limit to win the seat. The one-year time limit to launch potential criminal proceedings relating to the 2015 general election was due to expire on 12 June.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/01/judge-grants-extension-to-police-investigation-into-tory-election
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820

    Nope, it's early June, from when the candidates have to file their election expenses return which I believe is 5 weeks from election day.

    Right, thanks. Makes sense.
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    MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    Essexman said:

    GIN1138 said:

    theakes said:

    Cons and Lib Dems far too high. Labour far too low.

    Yeah right...
    Not a market I will be tempted to bet on before the locals but I agree Con too high Lab too low LDs will move after locals probably to a higher level then will certainly be too high .
    Wishful thinking
    I am making no forecast as to the GE result but on how the spread markets will move immediately after the local elections .
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    SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Spread betting is not for the faint hearted and should be left for the experienced punter.

    Preferably those with deep pockets.
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,689
    edited April 2017

    Nope, it's early June, from when the candidates have to file their election expenses return which I believe is 5 weeks from election day.

    Right, thanks. Makes sense.
    I believe a lot of the MPs filed their returns promptly, and not at the last minute which makes it possible there are different deadlines for charging for different MPs.

    This could get very messy if charges are brought.

    Can you imagine if say a dozen Tory MPs are charged on different days during the last two weeks of the 2017 GE election campaign.

    Carnage, utter carnage in the news cycle.
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    Ishmael_ZIshmael_Z Posts: 8,981
    Nigelb said:

    If nothing else, this election has provided us with a variation on the Royal fresh paint fallacy...

    "I’m out on the streets and the doorsteps and the meeting halls every day and that’s not what I’m finding. I’m finding the enthusiasm of people at the prospect of doing things differently to work for everyone and I’m enjoying it..."
    J Corbyn

    Or the John Peel gag. JP: "I don't know why this record is not doing better, everybody I know has bought it." "No, John, you know everybody who has bought it."
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,045

    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
    Could be embarrassing.
    I guess all current MPs would want re-stand.
    Well Craig Mackinlay's file went to the CPS this week.

    This could get very messy.

    What does Alison Saunders do if there are multiple MPs to be charged ?

    Do it in one go or do it one by one and dominate a lot of news cycles.
    One by one please - name and shame the Tories everyday for as long as it takes (a bit like the Labour front bench resignations) - popcorn time!
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    MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Well the CPS/police one year extension to investigate further/come to a charging decision ends this May.

    Presumably the 7th May, right? Anniversary of the 2015 election. That means a week Friday.
    Nope, it's early June, from when the candidates have to file their election expenses return which I believe is 5 weeks from election day.

    Looking here,

    But the police force was granted an extra 12 months to investigate the claims that Mackinlay and his agent exceeded the legal spending limit to win the seat. The one-year time limit to launch potential criminal proceedings relating to the 2015 general election was due to expire on 12 June.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/01/judge-grants-extension-to-police-investigation-into-tory-election

    What's the point of a 1 year limit, if they can just extend it to two years anyway?

    Should have had a 2 year limit in the first place.

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    Tim fresh from some behind-the-shed spaniel sniffing.

    https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/857565036532858881

    Hurry up - I'm waiting to spend a penny!
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    IanB2IanB2 Posts: 47,574

    Nope, it's early June, from when the candidates have to file their election expenses return which I believe is 5 weeks from election day.

    Right, thanks. Makes sense.
    I believe a lot of the MPs filed their returns promptly, and not at the last minute which makes it possible there are different deadlines for charging for different MPs.

    This could get very messy if charges are brought.

    Can you imagine if say a dozen Tory MPs are charged on different days during the last two weeks of the 2017 GE election campaign.

    Carnage, utter carnage in the news cycle.
    I believe the deadline for the majority of cases that the CPS were looking at fell during the first week of June.
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    chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341

    Lib Dems shouldn't count on Remain votes - the data looks bleak
    Conventional wisdom suggests the Tories could bleed Remain votes to the Lib Dems. Our detailed data analysis suggests this idea could be very wrong indeed


    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/apr/27/lib-dems-shouldnt-count-on-remain-votes-the-data-looks-bleak

    The only obvious sign of good progress for the Lib Dems is London.

    This morning's Yougov hints at huge amounts of uncertainty within the left/remain with the Lib Dems and Greens high on the list.

    Only 29% of current Lib Dem pledges describe themselves as certainties to back the LDs.

    It gives the impression that left leaning remainers are a bit lost at the moment.
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    NigelbNigelb Posts: 63,068
    Roger said:

    Interesting to hear Angela Merkel saying brexit means brexit therefore go f**k yourselves.

    In other news our foreign secretary says if the Americans go to war in Syria we would have no option but to join them. A man after Blair's heart.

    Corbyn looked down and out but I don't think any of us thought about the calibre of clown he'd be up against.

    Angela Merkel has an election to fight - which she's going to do well before the real negotiations start. Over-interpreting comments made for domestic consumption is not sensible.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,027
    I have bought the blues at £10 a point at 384 on this market.

    I think @Marksenior implied tip of selling the Lib Dems after the locals might be a very good one.

    Please bear in mind that considerable sums can be lost on this market.
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    ToryJimToryJim Posts: 3,486
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    TheWhiteRabbitTheWhiteRabbit Posts: 12,388

    Spread betting is not for the faint hearted and should be left for the experienced punter.

    Preferably those with deep pockets.

    My brother was saved from a three figure loss last time by Sporting's insistence he cover 500 Tory seats.
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    geoffwgeoffw Posts: 8,187

    A strange reversal in the general election campaign in Scotland has seen the separatist Scottish National party clam up about independence, while the anti-independence Conservatives will not shut up about it.

    https://www.ft.com/content/1d9282b8-2b1f-11e7-9ec8-168383da43b7

    It could get comical in the next few weeks.
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    rural_voterrural_voter Posts: 2,038
    Roger said:

    Interesting to hear Angela Merkel saying brexit means brexit therefore go f**k yourselves.

    In other news our foreign secretary says if the Americans go to war in Syria we would have no option but to join them. A man after Blair's heart.

    Corbyn looked down and out but I don't think any of us thought about the calibre of clown he'd be up against.

    In terms of this announcement that the UK will be happy to break international law if Trump does so first, is the possibility of bombing Syria during an election campaign a devious attempt to avoid a parliamentary vote? (There isn't a parliament for 6 weeks.)
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    I just hope Alistair Carmichael doesn't feck up my spread betting this general election.

    God I loathe that man.
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614

    Nope, it's early June, from when the candidates have to file their election expenses return which I believe is 5 weeks from election day.

    Right, thanks. Makes sense.
    I believe a lot of the MPs filed their returns promptly, and not at the last minute which makes it possible there are different deadlines for charging for different MPs.

    This could get very messy if charges are brought.

    Can you imagine if say a dozen Tory MPs are charged on different days during the last two weeks of the 2017 GE election campaign.

    Carnage, utter carnage in the news cycle.
    McKinlay looks the most likely in reality.
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    williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 48,252
    Nigelb said:

    Angela Merkel has an election to fight - which she's going to do well before the real negotiations start. Over-interpreting comments made for domestic consumption is not sensible.

    Previously we were told that the fact she had an election to fight meant she would be forced to offer a wonderful trade deal so as not to upset BMW and Mercedes.

    The message has been consistent since before the referendum. It's about time Brexiteers understood it.
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    murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,045
    Are we expecting any polls today? None today so far I think.
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087
    calum said:
    If he is even halfway right, we shall all look bloody silly. We're probably safe though.
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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,027
    Con supremacy over Labour will be the market for the REAL gamblers imo.

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    murali_s said:

    Are we expecting any polls today? None today so far I think.

    I'm not expecting any today.

    I think we'll get a few on Saturday night.
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    murali_s said:

    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
    Could be embarrassing.
    I guess all current MPs would want re-stand.
    Well Craig Mackinlay's file went to the CPS this week.

    This could get very messy.

    What does Alison Saunders do if there are multiple MPs to be charged ?

    Do it in one go or do it one by one and dominate a lot of news cycles.
    One by one please - name and shame the Tories everyday for as long as it takes (a bit like the Labour front bench resignations) - popcorn time!
    That sounds like you assume they are guilty.

    Personally I don't think this will make too much difference. The public were angry about expenses as it was seen as MPs stealing from the taxpayer. I can't see people getting as worked up about the Tories spending too much of their money.
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    felixfelix Posts: 15,125
    Nigelb said:

    Roger said:

    Interesting to hear Angela Merkel saying brexit means brexit therefore go f**k yourselves.

    In other news our foreign secretary says if the Americans go to war in Syria we would have no option but to join them. A man after Blair's heart.

    Corbyn looked down and out but I don't think any of us thought about the calibre of clown he'd be up against.

    Angela Merkel has an election to fight - which she's going to do well before the real negotiations start. Over-interpreting comments made for domestic consumption is not sensible.
    This is Roger whose love for the EU is only surpassed by his hatred for the UK
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    Pulpstar said:

    Con supremacy over Labour will be the market for the REAL gamblers imo.

    Don't mention that market. OGH lost a packet on that one last time.

    I told him to buy, but he sold.
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    perdixperdix Posts: 1,806
    Roger said:

    Interesting to hear Angela Merkel saying brexit means brexit therefore go f**k yourselves.

    In other news our foreign secretary says if the Americans go to war in Syria we would have no option but to join them. A man after Blair's heart.

    Corbyn looked down and out but I don't think any of us thought about the calibre of clown he'd be up against.

    Be more precise in your reporting - no fake news here!
    Bojo said if the US asked us to attack Syria with them after another nerve gas event - "we would find it difficult to refuse".

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    calumcalum Posts: 3,046

    I just hope Alistair Carmichael doesn't feck up my spread betting this general election.

    God I loathe that man.

    Gives lawyers a bad name !
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    TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 114,689
    edited April 2017
    calum said:

    I just hope Alistair Carmichael doesn't feck up my spread betting this general election.

    God I loathe that man.

    Gives lawyers a bad name !
    I turned into a big feartie when the McZinoviev letter broke, and closed out by SNP position.

    I like him nearly as much as I like Mark Reckless.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,302
    kle4 said:

    calum said:
    If he is even halfway right, we shall all look bloody silly. We're probably safe though.
    Given his outing this morning, I am surprised he can even find the doorstep. I wouldn't be surprised to find him knocking on people's shed doors.
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    timmotimmo Posts: 1,469

    Essexman said:

    GIN1138 said:

    theakes said:

    Cons and Lib Dems far too high. Labour far too low.

    Yeah right...
    Not a market I will be tempted to bet on before the locals but I agree Con too high Lab too low LDs will move after locals probably to a higher level then will certainly be too high .
    Wishful thinking
    I am making no forecast as to the GE result but on how the spread markets will move immediately after the local elections .
    Whats your view on the PP price for Sutton and Cheam Mark?
    They have the tories 1/8 with the LDs 9/2.. is that wrong ?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,568
    (((Dan Hodges)))‏Verified account @DPJHodges 22m22 minutes ago

    Can someone explain to me what Jeremy Corbyn was doing in Harlow?
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    RhubarbRhubarb Posts: 359

    murali_s said:

    If 'CPS will have to decide before polling day' will they decide before the Tories choose their candidates in the affected seats?

    Is a narrow window, would have to charge before May 11th.

    Which is a fortnight away or 9 working days away.
    Could be embarrassing.
    I guess all current MPs would want re-stand.
    Well Craig Mackinlay's file went to the CPS this week.

    This could get very messy.

    What does Alison Saunders do if there are multiple MPs to be charged ?

    Do it in one go or do it one by one and dominate a lot of news cycles.
    One by one please - name and shame the Tories everyday for as long as it takes (a bit like the Labour front bench resignations) - popcorn time!
    That sounds like you assume they are guilty.

    Personally I don't think this will make too much difference. The public were angry about expenses as it was seen as MPs stealing from the taxpayer. I can't see people getting as worked up about the Tories spending too much of their money.
    If they're named before the election, lost, and then acquitted afterwards, could they force a rerun in whatever seat they were standing for?
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    Carolus_RexCarolus_Rex Posts: 1,414

    kle4 said:

    calum said:
    If he is even halfway right, we shall all look bloody silly. We're probably safe though.
    Given his outing this morning, I am surprised he can even find the doorstep. I wouldn't be surprised to find him knocking on people's shed doors.
    Knocking on shed doors probably makes perfect sense if you spend most of your time on your allotment.
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    MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    timmo said:

    Essexman said:

    GIN1138 said:

    theakes said:

    Cons and Lib Dems far too high. Labour far too low.

    Yeah right...
    Not a market I will be tempted to bet on before the locals but I agree Con too high Lab too low LDs will move after locals probably to a higher level then will certainly be too high .
    Wishful thinking
    I am making no forecast as to the GE result but on how the spread markets will move immediately after the local elections .
    Whats your view on the PP price for Sutton and Cheam Mark?
    They have the tories 1/8 with the LDs 9/2.. is that wrong ?
    1/3 and 2/1 would be my odds if I were a bookie
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    kle4kle4 Posts: 92,087

    Essexman said:

    GIN1138 said:

    theakes said:

    Cons and Lib Dems far too high. Labour far too low.

    Yeah right...
    Not a market I will be tempted to bet on before the locals but I agree Con too high Lab too low LDs will move after locals probably to a higher level then will certainly be too high .
    Wishful thinking
    I am making no forecast as to the GE result but on how the spread markets will move immediately after the local elections .
    Makes sense given where the NEV will be.
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    tlg86tlg86 Posts: 25,220
    Pulpstar said:

    I have bought the blues at £10 a point at 384 on this market.

    I think @Marksenior implied tip of selling the Lib Dems after the locals might be a very good one.

    Please bear in mind that considerable sums can be lost on this market.

    Do you have to deposit £,3840 into your account?
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,926
    Pulpstar said:

    I have bought the blues at £10 a point at 384 on this market.

    I think @Marksenior implied tip of selling the Lib Dems after the locals might be a very good one.

    Please bear in mind that considerable sums can be lost on this market.

    The big upside is surely on a Tory landslide.
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    Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,820
    I have an open buy of Con at 378, which for the moment at least I'm keeping open. I think the price might have a little further to go.

    At today's prices, the most attractive bet IMO is a sell of of the LibDems at 26. Most of their targets are Tory held, and there's been a net swing away from the LibDems towards the Tories since GE2015. What's more, in several of the seats in which the LibDems were close behind the Tories, there was a sizeable UKIP vote; thus, seats like Eastbourne or Lewes aren't as easy for the LibDems as you'd think by looking at the small majorities.

    Of course, sentiment could turn, and if the LibDems do start eating heavily into the Labour vote share that Sell could turn nasty. But, at the moment, it looks sound enough.

    As others have said, spread betting is not for the faint-hearted and losses can mount up very quickly. DYOR.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,302

    (((Dan Hodges)))‏Verified account @DPJHodges 22m22 minutes ago

    Can someone explain to me what Jeremy Corbyn was doing in Harlow?

    Because with 21st Century Socialism sweeping the nation, overturning a 20% Tory lead in the constituency is on the cards?
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    rkrkrkrkrkrk Posts: 7,926
    tlg86 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    I have bought the blues at £10 a point at 384 on this market.

    I think @Marksenior implied tip of selling the Lib Dems after the locals might be a very good one.

    Please bear in mind that considerable sums can be lost on this market.

    Do you have to deposit £,3840 into your account?
    If you're new i think they will force you to have a stop loss at a certain number of seats either way? So limiting losses and gains... Might be wrong though. My one attempt at spread betting was a disaster mitigated only by the fact that i had​ a welcome bonus.
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    I have an open buy of Con at 378, which for the moment at least I'm keeping open. I think the price might have a little further to go.

    At today's prices, the most attractive bet IMO is a sell of of the LibDems at 26. Most of their targets are Tory held, and there's been a net swing away from the LibDems towards the Tories since GE2015. What's more, in several of the seats in which the LibDems were close behind the Tories, there was a sizeable UKIP vote; thus, seats like Eastbourne or Lewes aren't as easy for the LibDems as you'd think by looking at the small majorities.

    Of course, sentiment could turn, and if the LibDems do start eating heavily into the Labour vote share that Sell could turn nasty. But, at the moment, it looks sound enough.

    As others have said, spread betting is not for the faint-hearted and losses can mount up very quickly. DYOR.

    I'm planning to do a piece this weekend which points out at the last two general elections, the spreads massively overestimated the Yellow Peril.
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    Right, is there any feasible way for Labour to ditch Corbyn and coronate Tom Watson or Yvette Cooper as leader 4 weeks before polling day?
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    Right, is there any feasible way for Labour to ditch Corbyn and coronate Tom Watson or Yvette Cooper as leader 4 weeks before polling day?

    A large rock from outer space?

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    PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 76,027
    edited April 2017
    tlg86 said:

    Pulpstar said:

    I have bought the blues at £10 a point at 384 on this market.

    I think @Marksenior implied tip of selling the Lib Dems after the locals might be a very good one.

    Please bear in mind that considerable sums can be lost on this market.

    Do you have to deposit £,3840 into your account?
    Nope.

    I'll be down alot more than 4 grand if that is the overall result.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Scott_P said:
    Nice hashtag on the bottom right of the image
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    DavidLDavidL Posts: 51,506
    Hmm... on those spreads I would be a seller of Lib Dem, seller of Labour and seller of UKIP. I would be very reluctant at the moment to go either way on the SNP. This surely means I should be a buyer of Tories but it seems awfully high already...

    I must remember someone has to win every seat no matter how awful they are.
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    JasonJason Posts: 1,614
    I can guarantee one thing for certain - if there are charges brought against these Tory MPs before the election, this site will go into meltdown.
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    glwglw Posts: 9,556

    Right, is there any feasible way for Labour to ditch Corbyn and coronate Tom Watson or Yvette Cooper as leader 4 weeks before polling day?

    Why don't all the Labour MPs do what they do in soap operas and pretend that it was only a bad dream?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,568

    Right, is there any feasible way for Labour to ditch Corbyn and coronate Tom Watson or Yvette Cooper as leader 4 weeks before polling day?

    What's he done now?
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    rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 58,568

    (((Dan Hodges)))‏Verified account @DPJHodges 22m22 minutes ago

    Can someone explain to me what Jeremy Corbyn was doing in Harlow?

    Because with 21st Century Socialism sweeping the nation, overturning a 20% Tory lead in the constituency is on the cards?
    Especially when it's a overtly working class Tory like Halfon.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,302
    edited April 2017
    I can't work out if this is "go Jezza, you crush the Tory scum" or "get off my f##king doorstep you hobo before I punch you"?

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