I went to Paris a few weeks ago, and took a trip to St Denis, one of the most notorious banlieus.
It was extraordinary. It's one train stop from Gare du Nord, but it feels like a declining suburb of Tunis mixed with central Bucharest. Barely a white face. Zero cops. Arab youths were openly dealing drugs, or cooking kebabs on shopping trolleys, right outside the station.
I saw a fistfight between street traders, no one intervened.
France is in a very strange condition. Parts of it are still amongst the most delightful and civilised places on earth. But their problems go deep, even as they are hidden away on the outskirts of the cities.
Even Bury Park isn't as bad as that.
It's an extreme version of the way things work in France - if you are part of The Thing (connections etc) you do very very well. If you are not....
As you say, in places like France and Italy people have always needed connections to get anywhere and, by definition, immigrants are going to have a problem simply because they're newcomers. It's bad enough for Europeans from other countries to get things done with all the bureaucracy. No wonder the migrants at Calais are so desperate to get to Britain.
Re: Dawn Butler - I didn't see the TV version, but I posted this on the earlier thread...
The one on Radio 4 at about 5:15? It was spectacularly bad - a really poor performance from her. She was fortunate that Eddie Mair (?) allowed her to retract her defamation of Costa Coffee (a Whitbred subsidiary) regarding its tax affairs. She didn't seem to know whether she wanted to discuss Labour Party policy or not - her only soundbite was that "the system is rigged" against Labour, but seemed incapable of giving any examples or ways in which a Labour Government would rectify matters. Another seven weeks of this is going to destroy her.
Also this line being pushed that May is "rigging democracy" by holding an election that...
I went to Paris a few weeks ago, and took a trip to St Denis, one of the most notorious banlieus.
It was extraordinary. It's one train stop from Gare du Nord, but it feels like a declining suburb of Tunis mixed with central Bucharest. Barely a white face. Zero cops. Arab youths were openly dealing drugs, or cooking kebabs on shopping trolleys, right outside the station.
I saw a fistfight between street traders, no one intervened.
France is in a very strange condition. Parts of it are still amongst the most delightful and civilised places on earth. But their problems go deep, even as they are hidden away on the outskirts of the cities.
Even Bury Park isn't as bad as that.
It's an extreme version of the way things work in France - if you are part of The Thing (connections etc) you do very very well. If you are not....
As you say, in places like France and Italy people have always needed connections to get anywhere and, by definition, immigrants are going to have a problem simply because they're newcomers. It's bad enough for Europeans from other countries to get things done with all the bureaucracy. No wonder the migrants at Calais are so desperate to get to Britain.
Excellent, many thanks! I have just got back from Dorset - it seems to be unclear as to whether Oliver Letwin is standing down or not. Lib Dems say he is, the paper says it's not been decided yet.
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
Can I suggest you will do more for animal welfare outside the House?
Anti-terrorist prosecutors have opened an investigation, indicating that the motive is believed to have been terrorism, and the attacker was known to the intelligence services, security sources said.
Re: Dawn Butler - I didn't see the TV version, but I posted this on the earlier thread...
The one on Radio 4 at about 5:15? It was spectacularly bad - a really poor performance from her. She was fortunate that Eddie Mair (?) allowed her to retract her defamation of Costa Coffee (a Whitbred subsidiary) regarding its tax affairs. She didn't seem to know whether she wanted to discuss Labour Party policy or not - her only soundbite was that "the system is rigged" against Labour, but seemed incapable of giving any examples or ways in which a Labour Government would rectify matters. Another seven weeks of this is going to destroy her.
Also this line being pushed that May is "rigging democracy" by holding an election that...
... the Labour Party voted for
Yes, I didn't understand that either!
Apparently having anything other than exactly 650 MPs results in a "rigged" system
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
DESIST !
Nick FFS without being overly glum or political, you have probably 10 years of very active life in you, Get out ! Enjoy it !
Do all those things you always promised yourself to do. Shag all of SeanTs 20 year old cast offs ! Go boozing on the Cote dazur with Roger ! Go to Spurs matches with Southam and laugh at the crushing of hope !
But westmisnter nah - go looking for joy and fun - no one ever wishes theyd spent more time in the office.
On the other hands, in this political climate there's little to no chance of Nick winning, but he will substantially suppress Soubry's majority and make it easier for Labour to retake in the 2022 election. Plus it's only a couple months of that time, after which Nick can go do whatever.
In France the paramedics and doctors tend to treat on site, rather than scoop and run as per UK policy. Assault rifle wounds at short range are nasty though.
Anti-terrorist prosecutors have opened an investigation, indicating that the motive is believed to have been terrorism, and the attacker was known to the intelligence services, security sources said.
Police are searching for a suspect Youssouf El Osri. Who arrived from Belgium with Thalys train.
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
DESIST !
Nick FFS without being overly glum or political, you have probably 10 years of very active life in you, Get out ! Enjoy it !
Do all those things you always promised yourself to do. Shag all of SeanTs 20 year old cast offs ! Go boozing on the Cote dazur with Roger ! Go to Spurs matches with Southam and laugh at the crushing of hope !
But westmisnter nah - go looking for joy and fun - no one ever wishes theyd spent more time in the office.
On the other hands, in this political climate there's little to no chance of Nick winning, but he will substantially suppress Soubry's majority and make it easier for Labour to retake in the 2022 election. Plus it's only a couple months of that time, after which Nick can go do whatever.
Just think of his election slogan - Bring Back The Cat!
Worth a read for those looking for further reassurance that the wreck of Labour is coming. Plenty of praise from voters for Theresa May, derision for Corbyn, no interest in Ukip. All courtesy of a Labour-leaning paper, not Mail propaganda. Wonderful!
The liking or probably better say respect for may from strong anti-trump areas is puzzling. She is at best drab and uninspiring. I get why people liked Thatcher and blair, but may is more John major.
I don't quite get it myself - Corbyn being the alternative can only be part of it, and she does have a sort of dull, competent air about her, which I guess appeals, but she seems, at present, to really connect with people somehow. If she can sustain that, she is set for great things.
I did some fairly vigorous Canvassing today. This morning I spoke to some people in the High Street who I knew voted out in the referendum but who otherwise hadn't seen the inside of a polling station for donkeys' years if ever ("no point, Tories always get in round here") and they all said they were going to vote in the GE and vote Conservative. Why? Teresa May, that is why. She seems to be genuinely popular with the C2DE ladies, partly because they feel she will stop the toffs blocking the exit from the EU that they voted for last year, and partly because she is a woman who will "not stand any shit from any man".
Earlier this evening I took soundings from the most politically aware group in my area, i.e. the public bar of the New Inn. The UKIP tendency has gone. Those who supported UKIP are going to vote Conservative (again). I took particular care to check up on the current opinions of the Hurstpierpoint labour group, he said he will also be be voting Conservative because "That Teresa is right and Corbyn is a .... . (as a matter of fine interest the local Labour group is also Welsh, from the valleys).
Silly stuff in the great scheme of things (especially as this is one of teh safest Conservative seats in the country) and pure anecdote, but I wonder in how many other places, in cities and villages all over, are similar stories being played out and similar feelings held.
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
The rules as published say it's yours if you want it, don't they?
He's not an incumbent is he?
According to the Grauniad, "Under emergency measures, all Labour MPs who wish to carry on will be readopted and unsuccessful candidates from the 2015 election will be asked to seek selection again in England".
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
The rules as published say it's yours if you want it, don't they?
He's not an incumbent is he?
According to the Grauniad, "Under emergency measures, all Labour MPs who wish to carry on will be readopted and unsuccessful candidates from the 2015 election will be asked to seek selection again in England".
Is this because they're afraid of who they might end up with if they throw it open to unvetted candidates from the hugely increased membership?
Worth a read for those looking for further reassurance that the wreck of Labour is coming. Plenty of praise from voters for Theresa May, derision for Corbyn, no interest in Ukip. All courtesy of a Labour-leaning paper, not Mail propaganda. Wonderful!
The liking or probably better say respect for may from strong anti-trump areas is puzzling. She is at best drab and uninspiring. I get why people liked Thatcher and blair, but may is more John major.
I don't quite get it myself - Corbyn being the alternative can only be part of it, and she does have a sort of dull, competent air about her, which I guess appeals, but she seems, at present, to really connect with people somehow. If she can sustain that, she is set for great things.
I did some fairly vigorous Canvassing today. This morning I spoke to some people in the High Street who I knew voted out in the referendum but who otherwise hadn't seen the inside of a polling station for donkeys' years if ever ("no point, Tories always get in round here") and they all said they were going to vote in the GE and vote Conservative. Why? Teresa May, that is why. She seems to be genuinely popular with the C2DE ladies, partly because they feel she will stop the toffs blocking the exit from the EU that they voted for last year, and partly because she is a woman who will "not stand any shit from any man".
Earlier this evening I took soundings from the most politically aware group in my area, i.e. the public bar of the New Inn. The UKIP tendency has gone. Those who supported UKIP are going to vote Conservative (again). I took particular care to check up on the current opinions of the Hurstpierpoint labour group, he said he will also be be voting Conservative because "That Teresa is right and Corbyn is a .... . (as a matter of fine interest the local Labour group is also Welsh, from the valleys).
Silly stuff in the great scheme of things (especially as this is one of teh safest Conservative seats in the country) and pure anecdote, but I wonder in how many other places, in cities and villages all over, are similar stories being played out and similar feelings held.
On evenings like this it a good job there isn't a potential PM who would hestiate about giving the order to send the SAS with shoot to kill if there was ever a maraudering style terrorist attack on the streets if the UK.
Imagine if it came on PM Corbyn's day off and he is busy making jam.
In France the paramedics and doctors tend to treat on site, rather than scoop and run as per UK policy. Assault rifle wounds at short range are nasty though.
I hesitate to ask, but do we see many of those in the UK?
Worth a read for those looking for further reassurance that the wreck of Labour is coming. Plenty of praise from voters for Theresa May, derision for Corbyn, no interest in Ukip. All courtesy of a Labour-leaning paper, not Mail propaganda. Wonderful!
Twelve of the eighteen MPs who have stood down so far are Labour.
Two of the four they have in the South and half a dozen along the North east of England /Yorkshire and Humber coast.
Middlesbrough South looks like a very possible Tory gain.
Agreed. Don't see how Labour can hold Middlesbrough South. That 8% Tory by-election swing last week wasn't even in one of the more sympathetic parts of the seat.
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
The rules as published say it's yours if you want it, don't they?
He's not an incumbent is he?
According to the Grauniad, "Under emergency measures, all Labour MPs who wish to carry on will be readopted and unsuccessful candidates from the 2015 election will be asked to seek selection again in England".
Is this because they're afraid of who they might end up with if they throw it open to unvetted candidates from the hugely increased membership?
Time constraints more than anything else, I'd think.
Worth a read for those looking for further reassurance that the wreck of Labour is coming. Plenty of praise from voters for Theresa May, derision for Corbyn, no interest in Ukip. All courtesy of a Labour-leaning paper, not Mail propaganda. Wonderful!
The liking or probably better say respect for may from strong anti-trump areas is puzzling. She is at best drab and uninspiring. I get why people liked Thatcher and blair, but may is more John major.
I don't quite get it myself - Corbyn being the alternative can only be part of it, and she does have a sort of dull, competent air about her, which I guess appeals, but she seems, at present, to really connect with people somehow. If she can sustain that, she is set for great things.
I did some fairly vigorous Canvassing today. This morning I spoke to some people in the High Street who I knew voted out in the referendum but who otherwise hadn't seen the inside of a polling station for donkeys' years if ever ("no point, Tories always get in round here") and they all said they were going to vote in the GE and vote Conservative. Why? Teresa May, that is why. She seems to be genuinely popular with the C2DE ladies, partly because they feel she will stop the toffs blocking the exit from the EU that they voted for last year, and partly because she is a woman who will "not stand any shit from any man".
Earlier this evening I took soundings from the most politically aware group in my area, i.e. the public bar of the New Inn. The UKIP tendency has gone. Those who supported UKIP are going to vote Conservative (again). I took particular care to check up on the current opinions of the Hurstpierpoint labour group, he said he will also be be voting Conservative because "That Teresa is right and Corbyn is a .... . (as a matter of fine interest the local Labour group is also Welsh, from the valleys).
Silly stuff in the great scheme of things (especially as this is one of teh safest Conservative seats in the country) and pure anecdote, but I wonder in how many other places, in cities and villages all over, are similar stories being played out and similar feelings held.
My wife's twin sister is flying over tomorrow from Haywards Heath. Should be interesting to hear what she has to say.
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
The rules as published say it's yours if you want it, don't they?
He's not an incumbent is he?
According to the Grauniad, "Under emergency measures, all Labour MPs who wish to carry on will be readopted and unsuccessful candidates from the 2015 election will be asked to seek selection again in England".
Is this because they're afraid of who they might end up with if they throw it open to unvetted candidates from the hugely increased membership?
Time constraints more than anything else, I'd think.
True. But it does rather open the possibility that they might not be able to stand candidates in every seat?
The Tories always did better with women when Mrs Thatcher was PM, whereas recently Labour have won the female vote. Maybe the same thing is happening again with May. Simple explanation but could be true.
In France the paramedics and doctors tend to treat on site, rather than scoop and run as per UK policy. Assault rifle wounds at short range are nasty though.
I hesitate to ask, but do we see many of those in the UK?
No, but I went to a very interesting talk recently by an Trauma Surgeon not long returned from Afghanistan. Very instructive and well illustrated.
Anti-terrorist prosecutors have opened an investigation, indicating that the motive is believed to have been terrorism, and the attacker was known to the intelligence services, security sources said.
Police are searching for a suspect Youssouf El Osri. Who arrived from Belgium with Thalys train.
Worth a read for those looking for further reassurance that the wreck of Labour is coming. Plenty of praise from voters for Theresa May, derision for Corbyn, no interest in Ukip. All courtesy of a Labour-leaning paper, not Mail propaganda. Wonderful!
The liking or probably better say respect for may from strong anti-trump areas is puzzling. She is at best drab and uninspiring. I get why people liked Thatcher and blair, but may is more John major.
I don't quite get it myself - Corbyn being the alternative can only be part of it, and she does have a sort of dull, competent air about her, which I guess appeals, but she seems, at present, to really connect with people somehow. If she can sustain that, she is set for great things.
I did some fairly vigorous Canvassing today. This morning I spoke to some people in the High Street who I knew voted out in the referendum but who otherwise hadn't seen the inside of a polling station for donkeys' years if ever ("no point, Tories always get in round here") and they all said they were going to vote in the GE and vote Conservative. Why? Teresa May, that is why. She seems to be genuinely popular with the C2DE ladies, partly because they feel she will stop the toffs blocking the exit from the EU that they voted for last year, and partly because she is a woman who will "not stand any shit from any man".
Earlier this evening I took soundings from the most politically aware group in my area, i.e. the public bar of the New Inn. The UKIP tendency has gone. Those who supported UKIP are going to vote Conservative (again). I took particular care to check up on the current opinions of the Hurstpierpoint labour group, he said he will also be be voting Conservative because "That Teresa is right and Corbyn is a .... . (as a matter of fine interest the local Labour group is also Welsh, from the valleys).
Silly stuff in the great scheme of things (especially as this is one of teh safest Conservative seats in the country) and pure anecdote, but I wonder in how many other places, in cities and villages all over, are similar stories being played out and similar feelings held.
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
The rules as published say it's yours if you want it, don't they?
He's not an incumbent is he?
According to the Grauniad, "Under emergency measures, all Labour MPs who wish to carry on will be readopted and unsuccessful candidates from the 2015 election will be asked to seek selection again in England".
Is this because they're afraid of who they might end up with if they throw it open to unvetted candidates from the hugely increased membership?
Time constraints more than anything else, I'd think.
True. But it does rather open the possibility that they might not be able to stand candidates in every seat?
Well, less rigorous selection than usual for those who cannot get the 2015 ones back I guess - have to take the risk.
The Tories always did better with women when Mrs Thatcher was PM, whereas recently Labour have won the female vote. Maybe the same thing is happening again with May. Simple explanation but could be true.
Actually the Tories always did better with women until John Major. If women had been denied the vote, Labour would have won every election from 1945 to 1992 (assuming men had voted the same way).
However, in 1997 they deserted the party, and are only slowly being wooed back.
The Tories always did better with women when Mrs Thatcher was PM, whereas recently Labour have won the female vote. Maybe the same thing is happening again with May. Simple explanation but could be true.
Actually the Tories always did better with women until John Major. If women had been denied the vote, Labour would have won every election from 1945 to 1992 (assuming men had voted the same way).
However, in 1997 they deserted the party, and are only slowly being wooed back.
The Tories always did better with women when Mrs Thatcher was PM, whereas recently Labour have won the female vote. Maybe the same thing is happening again with May. Simple explanation but could be true.
Actually the Tories always did better with women until John Major. If women had been denied the vote, Labour would have won every election from 1945 to 1992 (assuming men had voted the same way).
However, in 1997 they deserted the party, and are only slowly being wooed back.
That's often asserted, but the Tories would surely have won from 1979-92 if only men voted.
This morning I spoke to some people in the High Street who I knew voted out in the referendum but who otherwise hadn't seen the inside of a polling station for donkeys' years if ever ("no point, Tories always get in round here") and they all said they were going to vote in the GE and vote Conservative. Why? Teresa May, that is why. She seems to be genuinely popular with the C2DE ladies, partly because they feel she will stop the toffs blocking the exit from the EU that they voted for last year, and partly because she is a woman who will "not stand any shit from any man".
The question "how effing stupid is it possible for someone to get?" comes to mind. But yes, there's an awful lot of that about: mindlessly liking celebrities to whom people attribute characteristics they would like to think they themselves possess. I remember a fool being interviewed who said he liked Prince Phillip because "he takes all the knocks; he doesn't complain". Around the same time, a friend's toddler who was fond of the Tellytubbies told me that one of them had a pooey bum. That was his way of saying he needed a nappy change.
In France the paramedics and doctors tend to treat on site, rather than scoop and run as per UK policy. Assault rifle wounds at short range are nasty though.
I hesitate to ask, but do we see many of those in the UK?
No, but I went to a very interesting talk recently by an Trauma Surgeon not long returned from Afghanistan. Very instructive and well illustrated.
Worth a read for those looking for further reassurance that the wreck of Labour is coming. Plenty of praise from voters for Theresa May, derision for Corbyn, no interest in Ukip. All courtesy of a Labour-leaning paper, not Mail propaganda. Wonderful!
Mary Creagh is toast, voting against Brexit when her constituency voted 65 % Leave will be her downfall.
Worth a read for those looking for further reassurance that the wreck of Labour is coming. Plenty of praise from voters for Theresa May, derision for Corbyn, no interest in Ukip. All courtesy of a Labour-leaning paper, not Mail propaganda. Wonderful!
The liking or probably better say respect for may from strong anti-trump areas is puzzling. She is at best drab and uninspiring. I get why people liked Thatcher and blair, but may is more John major.
I don't quite get it myself - Corbyn being the alternative can only be part of it, and she does have a sort of dull, competent air about her, which I guess appeals, but she seems, at present, to really connect with people somehow. If she can sustain that, she is set for great things.
I did some fairly vigorous Canvassing today. This morning I spoke to some people in the High Street who I knew voted out in the referendum but who otherwise hadn't seen the inside of a polling station for donkeys' years if ever ("no point, Tories always get in round here") and they all said they were going to vote in the GE and vote Conservative. Why? Teresa May, that is why. She seems to be genuinely popular with the C2DE ladies, partly because they feel she will stop the toffs blocking the exit from the EU that they voted for last year, and partly because she is a woman who will "not stand any shit from any man".
Earlier this evening I took soundings from the most politically aware group in my area, i.e. the public bar of the New Inn. The UKIP tendency has gone. Those who supported UKIP are going to vote Conservative (again). I took particular care to check up on the current opinions of the Hurstpierpoint labour group, he said he will also be be voting Conservative because "That Teresa is right and Corbyn is a .... . (as a matter of fine interest the local Labour group is also Welsh, from the valleys).
Silly stuff in the great scheme of things (especially as this is one of teh safest Conservative seats in the country) and pure anecdote, but I wonder in how many other places, in cities and villages all over, are similar stories being played out and similar feelings held.
"They". FGS! My choice would be to call people who have borne children, as Jack Monroe has, women and "she". They aren't male. Don't murder grammar because a crazy person supposedly has a right to choose something.
If that's not good enough, then use the third exclusively singular pronoun: "it".
Worth a read for those looking for further reassurance that the wreck of Labour is coming. Plenty of praise from voters for Theresa May, derision for Corbyn, no interest in Ukip. All courtesy of a Labour-leaning paper, not Mail propaganda. Wonderful!
Mary Creagh is toast, voting against Brexit when her constituency voted 65 % Leave will be her downfall.
Worth a read for those looking for further reassurance that the wreck of Labour is coming. Plenty of praise from voters for Theresa May, derision for Corbyn, no interest in Ukip. All courtesy of a Labour-leaning paper, not Mail propaganda. Wonderful!
The liking or probably better say respect for may from strong anti-trump areas is puzzling. She is at best drab and uninspiring. I get why people liked Thatcher and blair, but may is more John major.
I don't quite get it myself - Corbyn being the alternative can only be part of it, and she does have a sort of dull, competent air about her, which I guess appeals, but she seems, at present, to really connect with people somehow. If she can sustain that, she is set for great things.
I did some fairly vigorous Canvassing today. This morning I spoke to some people in the High Street who I knew voted out in the referendum but who otherwise hadn't seen the inside of a polling station for donkeys' years if ever ("no point, Tories always get in round here") and they all said they were going to vote in the GE and vote Conservative. Why? Teresa May, that is why. She seems to be genuinely popular with the C2DE ladies, partly because they feel she will stop the toffs blocking the exit from the EU that they voted for last year, and partly because she is a woman who will "not stand any shit from any man".
Earlier this evening I took soundings from the most politically aware group in my area, i.e. the public bar of the New Inn. The UKIP tendency has gone. Those who supported UKIP are going to vote Conservative (again). I took particular care to check up on the current opinions of the Hurstpierpoint labour group, he said he will also be be voting Conservative because "That Teresa is right and Corbyn is a .... . (as a matter of fine interest the local Labour group is also Welsh, from the valleys).
Silly stuff in the great scheme of things (especially as this is one of teh safest Conservative seats in the country) and pure anecdote, but I wonder in how many other places, in cities and villages all over, are similar stories being played out and similar feelings held.
The Tories always did better with women when Mrs Thatcher was PM, whereas recently Labour have won the female vote. Maybe the same thing is happening again with May. Simple explanation but could be true.
Actually the Tories always did better with women until John Major. If women had been denied the vote, Labour would have won every election from 1945 to 1992 (assuming men had voted the same way).
However, in 1997 they deserted the party, and are only slowly being wooed back.
That's often asserted, but the Tories would surely have won from 1979-92 if only men voted.
Nope, Labour still led among men even in 1983 although not by a lot - something like 39-35 if memory serves.
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
I wish you well. It would be very rewarding for you to be able to serve in a parliament where the leaders of your own side are so closely aligned to your own feelings.
Assuming Bercow quits as Speaker after the GE or is otherwise given the elbow, does anyone have a hunch on who might succeed him? It would seem to be a Labour MP's turn, and assuming she survives in Derby South, I think Margaret Beckett as a respected and long-serving Parliamentarian must stand a chance and I like her odds of 25/1 with Betfair Sportsbook. DYOR.
The Tories always did better with women when Mrs Thatcher was PM, whereas recently Labour have won the female vote. Maybe the same thing is happening again with May. Simple explanation but could be true.
Actually the Tories always did better with women until John Major. If women had been denied the vote, Labour would have won every election from 1945 to 1992 (assuming men had voted the same way).
However, in 1997 they deserted the party, and are only slowly being wooed back.
That's often asserted, but the Tories would surely have won from 1979-92 if only men voted.
Nope, Labour still led among men even in 1983 although not by a lot - something like 39-35 if memory serves.
That would give the Tories a lead of 36% among women, which can't be correct.
I once had some neighbours in Devon whose grandchildren were visiting. I overheard one of the kids saying he'd been climbing "them trees over there", which the horrified grandmother corrected thus, "No, no, dear! Not 'them trees'... 'THEY trees'".
Assuming Bercow quits as Speaker after the GE or is otherwise given the elbow, does anyone have a hunch on who might succeed him? It would seem to be a Labour MP's turn, and assuming she survives in Derby South, I think Margaret Beckett as a respected and long-serving Parliamentarian must stand a chance and I like her odds of 25/1 with Betfair Sportsbook.
If Labour call craziness sane and accept this person as a candidate, they deserve to lose. Haven't they learnt the lesson from Remain fielding a transvestite on Question Time against Nigel Farage? Oh how the Tories must be laughing. It's very hard to take a man seriously when he tries to make political points while dressed as a woman, not as part of a humorous charity event, but because that's supposed to be just as sensible a way to dress as dressing in the normal way for his sex. The same applies when a woman who has borne a child (and is therefore undeniably a woman) has decided she is now neither male nor female and wants to be addressed as "they". Is it too late to ask people to stop acting as if mad crap is sane? Do that enough and you will start to believe it and you yourself will go mad.
The frustrating thing for the French authorities is that the didn't merely suspect something (singular or plural) was going to occur over this week, they knew. They had been working to interdict it, but they often seem to be getting the outside borders of the jigsaw but not the bits in the middle that allow you to see a clear picture.
Suggestions there might be a Belgian connection but this may be early stage 2+2 = 5.
The Tories always did better with women when Mrs Thatcher was PM, whereas recently Labour have won the female vote. Maybe the same thing is happening again with May. Simple explanation but could be true.
Actually the Tories always did better with women until John Major. If women had been denied the vote, Labour would have won every election from 1945 to 1992 (assuming men had voted the same way).
However, in 1997 they deserted the party, and are only slowly being wooed back.
That's often asserted, but the Tories would surely have won from 1979-92 if only men voted.
Nope, Labour still led among men even in 1983 although not by a lot - something like 39-35 if memory serves.
That would give the Tories a lead of 36% among women, which can't be correct.
Depends on the turnout among different groups I think - women turned out in higher numbers. But I don't have my reference books to hand for this so I can't check (and of course with a secret ballot the figures would necessarily be speculative anyway).
Assuming Bercow quits as Speaker after the GE or is otherwise given the elbow, does anyone have a hunch on who might succeed him? It would seem to be a Labour MP's turn, and assuming she survives in Derby South, I think Margaret Beckett as a respected and long-serving Parliamentarian must stand a chance and I like her odds of 25/1 with Betfair Sportsbook.
Wasn't the election in 09 supposed to be the Tories' go? But they didn't get their choice...
"They". FGS! My choice would be to call people who have borne children, as Jack Monroe has, women and "she". They aren't male. Don't murder grammar because a crazy person supposedly has a right to choose something.
If that's not good enough, then use the third exclusively singular pronoun: "it".
"They". FGS! My choice would be to call people who have borne children, as Jack Monroe has, women and "she". They aren't male. Don't murder grammar because a crazy person supposedly has a right to choose something.
If that's not good enough, then use the third exclusively singular pronoun: "it".
Nice to see Jack taking time off from failing to deliver a book that she crowdsourced over £60k for. Priorities, eh?
Assuming Bercow quits as Speaker after the GE or is otherwise given the elbow, does anyone have a hunch on who might succeed him? It would seem to be a Labour MP's turn, and assuming she survives in Derby South, I think Margaret Beckett as a respected and long-serving Parliamentarian must stand a chance and I like her odds of 25/1 with Betfair Sportsbook.
Wasn't the election in 09 supposed to be the Tories' go? But they didn't get their choice...
The same applies when a woman who has borne a child (and is therefore undeniably a woman) has decided she is now neither male nor female and wants to be addressed as "they". Is it too late to ask people to stop acting as if mad crap is sane? Do that enough and you will start to believe it and you yourself will go mad.
I consider myself tolerant, but I'd assumed the 'they is standing' thing was just a typo, but if it is intentional for the reason you say, then it's just bloody stupid - how does making addressing each other needlessly confusing help anything?
I once had some neighbours in Devon whose grandchildren were visiting. I overheard one of the kids saying he'd been climbing "them trees over there", which the horrified grandmother corrected thus, "No, no, dear! Not 'them trees'... 'THEY trees'".
Correct Devon English would, of course, be 'them thar trees"
Approaching 300 replies in a few hours, 98% positive. These are people who have chosen to read my emails, so not a representative sample, but most are not party members, so the ones who've offered to help are a useful potential resource which won't take away from Labour defence elsewhere. I'm under no illusions about the starting position, but will put in an application and we'll see if I get it...
Can I suggest you will do more for animal welfare outside the House?
Perhaps! There are options there too...we'll see what transpires.
Who is they (hope I got that right) going to stand for? They hate all Tories, don't like corbyn, has done their nut about farron's previous comments.
The Greens? Women's Equality Party?
I would have thought they would find the name womens equality parry offensive. They are technically a labour member but Greens sound like a good guess.
The Tories always did better with women when Mrs Thatcher was PM, whereas recently Labour have won the female vote. Maybe the same thing is happening again with May. Simple explanation but could be true.
You Gov breakdown from last night's poll appeared to show 52% of women intending to vote Tory.
The Tories always did better with women when Mrs Thatcher was PM, whereas recently Labour have won the female vote. Maybe the same thing is happening again with May. Simple explanation but could be true.
You Gov breakdown from last night's poll appeared to show 52% of women intending to vote Tory.
No sign of a cameron-esque woman problem for Kim Jong May.
Yesterday I highlighted South Belfast and the potential unseating of the SDLPs Alasdair McDonnell by the DUP. There is talk of a Unionist pact with the UUP allowing a DUP sole run.
This would kill the DUPs odds though I think it doesn't reflect that a lot of South Belfast Unionists can't abide by them so they'd need to carefully choose their man (or woman)
Just to complicate matters, Sinn Fein, as they have done before,may choose not to stand. They have no reason not to stand in their war to eliminate the SDLP but if they sat it out, then it would be an interesting match up again.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_L._Gardner
He sounds delightful.
- Groucho Marx
In France the paramedics and doctors tend to treat on site, rather than scoop and run as per UK policy. Assault rifle wounds at short range are nasty though.
They sound like Alex Jones raving loons....
Earlier this evening I took soundings from the most politically aware group in my area, i.e. the public bar of the New Inn. The UKIP tendency has gone. Those who supported UKIP are going to vote Conservative (again). I took particular care to check up on the current opinions of the Hurstpierpoint labour group, he said he will also be be voting Conservative because "That Teresa is right and Corbyn is a .... . (as a matter of fine interest the local Labour group is also Welsh, from the valleys).
Silly stuff in the great scheme of things (especially as this is one of teh safest Conservative seats in the country) and pure anecdote, but I wonder in how many other places, in cities and villages all over, are similar stories being played out and similar feelings held.
Ill be back voting blue this time
Mrs M deserves a mandate, then well see
Imagine if it came on PM Corbyn's day off and he is busy making jam.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39658427
I'm curious to know what these alleged defamatory statements are. What could possibly be said about McClusterfuck that's worse than the reality?
However, in 1997 they deserted the party, and are only slowly being wooed back.
Probably not known locally as Pierre and had a mental health condition then.
Corbyn to get 25,000 women in labour.
https://twitter.com/slatukip/status/855142700701671425
If that's not good enough, then use the third exclusively singular pronoun: "it".
£10 staked to win £3? That seems like bargin of the century to me.
Cover up to 49 for £1 profit per £10?
Assuming Bercow quits as Speaker after the GE or is otherwise given the elbow, does anyone have a hunch on who might succeed him?
It would seem to be a Labour MP's turn, and assuming she survives in Derby South, I think Margaret Beckett as a respected and long-serving Parliamentarian must stand a chance and I like her odds of 25/1 with Betfair Sportsbook.
DYOR.
Suggestions there might be a Belgian connection but this may be early stage 2+2 = 5.
https://twitter.com/rhonddabryant/status/854967314940383232
The resulting arguments lasted 16 years (or as they say in Scotland, five generations).
France is in a world of pain.
The last thing Chris Bryant should be doing is goading Leanne Wood.
Against anyone else, he’s safe. He just needs her not to stand. So, he picks a Twitter-brawl with her.
Please stand Leanne. After Stephen Kinnock, I think Bryant is the most dislikable of the Welsh MPs. It would be so good to see the back of him.
Yesterday I highlighted South Belfast and the potential unseating of the SDLPs Alasdair McDonnell by the DUP. There is talk of a Unionist pact with the UUP allowing a DUP sole run.
This would kill the DUPs odds though I think it doesn't reflect that a lot of South Belfast Unionists can't abide by them so they'd need to carefully choose their man (or woman)
Just to complicate matters, Sinn Fein, as they have done before,may choose not to stand. They have no reason not to stand in their war to eliminate the SDLP but if they sat it out, then it would be an interesting match up again.
Jeremy was elected to purge Labour of its uncleanliness.
He’s doing that. The Labour that emerges after the 2017 election will be clean.